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Narnian timeline[edit]

I'm resubmitting this list because the concerns that were brought up the first time (only one – a discussion on the talk page which has since been resolved through references) have now been fixed. One thing that was brought up too late was about images – I've searched and can't find a free image of anything even remotely relevant, nor a fair use image which, in placing it in the article, would satisfy FUC. I'm satisfied with the page now and think it's well-referenced and clear. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 21:18, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Support. You don't need to use an image for the timeline - see m:EasyTimeline as implemented in John Vanbrugh (see {{John Vanbrugh timeline}}) and Isambard Kingdom Brunel (see {{Isambard Kingdom Brunel timeline}}). -- ALoan (Talk) 14:05, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Would the Easy Timeline be redundant, however? I can understand putting it in an article, but to have a timeline image on an article entirely devoted to the timeline? I'll remove the image anyway. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 18:27, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
One advantage of the image is that is presents the two timelines side-by-side. I think an EasyTimeline could do the same. As I see it, the image/timeline and the text should be doing different things - the image/timeline should be a short summary of what happened when, and the text should be a longer narrative explanation. -- ALoan (Talk) 19:32, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Some things Lewis put on the timeline, like "570 – About this time lived Moonwood the Hare," we know nothing else about, he only randomly mentioned them on the timeline. I understand the purpose of seeing the timeline side-by-side, but I don't entirely agree with the duplicate nature involved in it. One advantage to it
(dates only) in a right column, to see when the years aligned with each other, something which is not proportionally (visually) shown in the list. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 21:22, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The image doesn't include everything in the timeline, and could include any arbitrary lesser amount of text. If that helps with the decision. LloydSommerer 03:31, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The formatting doesn't do anything for me, I'm afraid. The way the England section refers back to the Narnian time just seems clumsy compared to a visual timeline (like the picture that seems to have gone). Perhaps ALoan's suggestion (EasyTimeline) would help, but I'm not familiar with it. The "See also" link should be better formatted. I'm a little bit uneasy about effectively reproducing a portion of a work of fiction (or the author's commentary on it). Colin°Talk 23:26, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
To address each of your points:
  • The England section, as I see it, is meant to be more of an "add-on" section. The part about the Narnian time is really the key thing; England is just additional info. It so happens that certain key years in that history directly correspond to Narnian years, and since we're on the Narnian years page, we'll list those years that are equal. (Then, we'll throw in birth dates to be complete.)
  • See also link: I always thought you weren't supposed to pipe links like that, because there's no other text which is supposed to be read there like you do when you pipe within prose, as I just did (the page name is Help:Link but I want it to read "pipe"; in a see also set-up you just need the page name). Maybe I'm confusing that with dab pages.
  • What are you uneasy about? --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 03:19, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oh, I don't know. Just seems a bit like lifing a "whole something" rather than just extracting bits from a larger source. Just ignore it. I'm going to sit on the fence here. I'm just not going "wow" enough ("our very best work") to Support but have no strong reason to Oppose. I thought a few comments were better than the silence you got last time. Colin°Talk 13:54, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No, it's okay, I understand and appreciate this. Though about the "see also" link – should it be piped so as to read "History of Narnia" or something, or aren't they supposed to not be piped? Or is that only for dab links? --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 00:15, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]