Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Mandy Moore discography/archive1

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The list was promoted by Giants2008 18:12, 30 April 2011 [1].

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Mandy Moore discography

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• Featured list candidates/Mandy Moore discography/archive1

Nominator(s): Novice7 (talk) 03:26, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it meets the criteria. Sources have been added to the list, and the tables have been formatted to comply with the new style of discographies. Thank you. Novice7 (talk) 03:26, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Resolved comments from (CK)Lakeshade

Comments: Reference 37, Extra Period after Amazon. Reference 25, Extra Period after Itunes. "twelve singles and twelve music videos." contradicts the infobox which says 11 singles and 16 music videos. "I Wanna Be with You followed So Real in May 2000" im not sure what that sentence is suppose to mean. I reworded it a bit. I read the previous sentence again, and I must say it's confusing. Reference 8, why is Hulu considered a reliable source and why does this video meet copy right laws? Removed the reference. The video is of a TV show and I don't think that could be used for sourcing sales. Mandy_Moore_discography#Studio_albums Sales and Certs should be two tables (for other sections as well). Please see Kesha_discography#Studio_albums. I split the studio albums section. Should I do it for the Compilation section too? There are not certifications for those three albums... No what you have done is correct. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - Please change all bottom headings to "denotes items which were not released in that country or failed to chart." as the current is not grammatically correct. Mandy_Moore_discography#Video_releases the notes sections need sources. Other than that great work on the article. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 23:31, 13 April 2011 (UTC) Thank you! I've fixed the issues. Novice7 (talk) 04:33, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

• Support - After a few changes i cannot find any other issues so i will gladly support this article. Great work. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 04:50, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm so sorry Lakeshade. How could I forget to thank you??? Thank you so much for reviewing :) Novice7 (talk) 16:51, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

• Dablinks/external links check: no problems found Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:40, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Resolved comments from Adabow (talk · contribs) 06:20, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

*Comments "Artists and repertoire" should have lower case 'a' "It peaked at number twenty-four on the Hot 100, Moore's only top forty song in the US and her highest peak to date." → ...on the Hot 100, becoming Moore's only top... "gold" or "Gold"? Be consistent The note of the bottom of the Studio albums table needs to span one more col The note - "—" denotes items which were not released in that country or failed to chart - always annoys me, but I'm not sure is anything can be done widely. Anyway, I prefer '"—" denotes items which failed to chart', as there can be non-released items that do chart - where do they fit in? Was "Cry" really released as the single from both MM and AWTR? Eg Check on It was released as a single from #1's, but was also included on B'Day. Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:40, 14 April 2011 (UTC) Thank you so much for reviewing. Fixed capitalization, note and other issues. As for "Cry", I checked the source and it states "Moore's third single 'Cry' is included on the soundtrack to AWTR". So, I removed A Walk to Remember. Novice7 (talk) 06:08, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

• Support Nice work, however I have just noticed that "top forty song" should be "top-forty song". Everything else seems fine to me. Adabow (talk · contribs) 06:20, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Done. Thanks! Novice7 (talk) 06:27, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 10:28, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Comments Could link discography. No mention of video albums in the lead but mentioned in the infobox. Seems a little odd. No need to abbreviate A&R because you never use it again. " It has sold 464,000 copies in the US" as of when? In fact, all the "has sold"s should be put into context... they could still be selling... "—" denotes items which failed to chart. ->+ or released in that territory. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:08, 14 April 2011 (UTC) Almost done. Added "sales, as of" to a few. I haven't added it to a few others as I thought it might become redundant. Should I add it? Also, I changed the note to "—" denotes items which failed to chart, because a reviewer asked to. I can change back if you'd like me to. Thanks for reviewing TRM. Novice7 (talk) 01:55, 15 April 2011 (UTC) All I want is for "—" to mean didn't chart or wasn't released. When I reviewed, the second element was missing altogether. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:01, 15 April 2011 (UTC) *sigh* It seems my request was against consensus. Change it back, Novice. Sorry Adabow (talk · contribs) 10:05, 15 April 2011 (UTC) I've changed it Rambling Man. And, it's okay Adabow :) Novice7 (talk) 10:10, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Comments I do see a number of things I don't want to see. :)

• For the RIAA certification you can maybe link to RIAA certifications, a more direct link than the one present.
• For the first instance of the US salrs, mention "According to Nielsen Soundscan", else it will appear that RIAA dictataed those sales.
• peaked just outside the top-forty on the US Billboard Hot 100 --> kinda roundabout, why not just say "peaked at forty-one on the US Billboard Hot 100"
• number two on the ARIA chart --> ARIA which chart? Its ARIA top 75 singles
• and spawned the only single from the album --> Bad usage, "and spawned only one single from the album"
• —the title track --> wrong em-dash. I feel better would be to combine this sentence with the next one, while the sales should be alongside the certification.
• Coverage, Moore's fifth studio album and her first cover album, was released in October 2003 --> you can include probably one line about what kinda songs she covered. This is applicable for the other albums also. The lead is becoming boring certification jargon at present as I'm reading.
• The singer's sixth studio album Wild Hope was --> missing comma
• The third para of the lead suffers greatly from what I just said.
• In the infobox there is no link for "other appearances", "music video appearance" and "Reference"
• Other appearance --> Please check the column headings, lol
• Ref 19 the actual title is "ARIA Charts – Accreditatons...."
• The Billboard link for the US sales is a 2009 article. Billboard wasn't published by PGM at that time. It was Nielsen Business Media, Inc.
• In video releases section, in the release details, link DVD for the first time.

These are some of the stuff I found, overall a good work fore a good artist, just some usual slip-ups. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 16:46, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your comments. I believe the issues are fixed :) Novice7 (talk) 06:22, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Support I find the issues to have been resolved, I believe this is ready for FL. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 13:11, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you so much :) Novice7 (talk) 13:18, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

• I would just like to add is there a reason that only four charts are listed, although some of her songs have charted in some charts not listed? Candyo32 13:58, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Added and expanded to six. Thanks. Novice7 (talk) 16:20, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

I also see more than one of her songs have charted in Austria and Germany, could you add those too? Candyo32 16:28, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Added Germany. I couldn't find the Austrian chart though. Can you tell me which song it is? Novice7 (talk) 16:36, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Great, I fully Support now. Candyo32 16:45, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Candy :) Novice7 (talk) 16:51, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

• Comment Reading Candy's comments, there are still charts that can be added. You should have ten charts listed. Adabow (talk · contribs) 11:31, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, done! Added France, Sweden and Switzerland. Novice7 (talk) 12:01, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Comment Some might think this as being a bit pointy since I recently got into a discussion about it at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Backstreet Boys discography/archive1, but, <shrugs> that's for the closing director to decide. I was told there that this is common practice at discography pages recently, and I think it has to stop:

"GER" and "SWI" mean nothing. I could accept "GER" or "SUI" in an Olympic- or football-related article, but that isn't the case here. We should use international standards for abbreviating country names when a differing standard hasn't been approved (such as in the two cases already mentioned). They are not an acceptable abbreviation in regular usage, and a list that "exemplifies Wikipedia's very best work" shouldn't be using them. So, while the article continues to uses abbreviations pulled out of our arses, I will have to oppose. (It's not like the abbreviations aren't wikilinked if someone doesn't know what they stand for). Matthewedwards :  Chat  06:05, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Should I use the abbreviations according to UN Statistics Division and ISO Alpha-3 codes? Novice7 (talk) 07:46, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Sure, although you should read Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Backstreet Boys discography/archive1 and WT:FLC#User:Matthewedwards before making any changes. Pfffft Matthewedwards :  Chat  16:14, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

I read through the discussion, and it seems like a consensus has not been achieved yet. I was wondering, what if I use the ISO Alpha-3 codes on the table and mention (as a note) that the discography uses the same? Novice7 (talk) 16:34, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure I understand. Matthewedwards :  Chat  23:56, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

I've changed the codes. Please take a look. Novice7 (talk) 05:19, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Changed GBR to UK and added note. Thank you. Novice7 (talk) 07:46, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Support Matthewedwards :  Chat  21:33, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Matthew. Novice7 (talk) 07:32, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

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