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List of international cricket five-wicket hauls at M. A. Chidambaram Stadium[edit]

List of international cricket five-wicket hauls at M. A. Chidambaram Stadium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 11:55, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yet another cricket list. This is my first attempt at a cricket-related article. Constructive comments are most welcome. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 11:55, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Frankie talk
Quick comment – I don't think that users are allowed to add a third nomination simultaneously as FLC clearly states "users should not add a second featured list nomination until the first has gained substantial support and reviewers' concerns have been substantially addressed". -- Frankie talk 15:27, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@FrB.TG: Aadukalam's award list has no outstanding issues for now as Vensatry struck off his oppose. The award list for Enthiran has only Azealia's oppose, which is quite improbable considering the support it has gained since then. I even messaged him requesting him to re-review the article but he simply removed it as per this edit. I asked Vensatry about it and he assured me it was alright as per this edit. Azealia has struck off his oppose now as per this edit. Both the lists are now FLs though. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 05:09, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "a sports ground in Chennai (formerly Madras), India that has hosted international" – "formerly Madras" is not needed here.
  • In the same sentence, de-link India as MoS suggests "the names of major geographic features and locations, languages, and religions [should not be linked]".
  • The image needs WP:ALT text.
  • "Australia's Ashley Mallett became the first cricketer to take two five-wicket hauls" → "Australian cricketer Ashley Mallett became the first to take two five-wicket hauls".
  • Anil Kumble's image need an alternative text.
  • This one is based on personal preference, I think you should write numbers in figure (1, 2, 3) than words (one, two, three), which are above nine. -- Frankie talk 13:43, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@FrB.TG: Resolved your comments. Thanks, Frankie. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 14:07, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@FrB.TG: Thanks again, Frankie. As always, your thoughts and comments are greatly appreciated. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 14:20, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from NapHit (talk) 10:47, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "It has hosted international cricket matches since the first Test at this venue took place in 1934, between India and England." would simply say The first match was in 1934, between India and England
  • "and has been home to 31 Test matches in total." -> it has hosted a further 31 Test matches
  • "It has a capacity..." -> The ground has a capacity
  • Make sure en dashes are used instead of hyphens 1969–70 tour is an example
  • "Ravichandran Ashwin has taken the most..." -> Ravichandran Ashwin took the most
  • "Overall, as of August 2015,
  • "As of August 2015, only one Twenty20 International (T20I) match was played between India and New Zealand on 11 September 2012." This sentence doesn't make grammatical sense. Change to As of August 2015, a match between India and New Zealand is the only Twenty20 International (T20I) to be held at the ground.
  • There's not really any point in having the rowspans in the table as it resorts to normal cells when sorted.
  • You need to use a symbol along with the colour for colour blind readers

NapHit (talk) 22:00, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@NapHit: Your comments have resolved, NapHit. Thanks. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 23:47, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@NapHit: Thanks, NapHit. Your thoughts and comments are greatly appreciated. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 04:13, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 09:22, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "Kings.[1][3]The" space before The.
Done. As asked. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 01:24, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Link Test.
Done. As asked. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 01:24, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Including the first match" would be neater to say "In total"
Done. As asked. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 01:24, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The ground has a capacity of 38,000 spectators for international matches.[1] " seems odd to put this between the number of Tests and number of ODIs hosted.
Done. Moved the sentence. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 01:24, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Instead of "Australian cricketer" perhaps "Australia's ..." and link Australia to the national team.
Done. As asked. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 01:24, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hirwani's debut stuff is fine, but you should reiterate that he took them at this stadium.
Done. As asked. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 01:24, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "47 five-wicket hauls in Tests and two five-wicket hauls" per MOSNUM, 47 and 2 or "forty-seven" and "two". Not a mixture.
Done. As asked. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 01:24, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "five of Anil Kumble's 35 " same again, but avoid starting sentences with a numeral, so perhaps you need to re-jig this caption altogether.
Done. As asked. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 01:24, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Changed the symbol. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 01:29, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Morkel's missing an accent on his first name.
Done. Added. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 01:24, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Bishen Singh Bedi" our article has him as Bishan.
Done. Changed to "Bishan". — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 01:24, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Worth noting that four of these fifers came in the same match?
Done. As asked. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 01:29, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Check date of 19 and 20.
@The Rambling Man: Can you specify clearly on this one. I don't quite understand what you mean here. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 01:24, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Check the date of hauls 19 and 20, it doesn't seem to match the citation. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:15, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@The Rambling Man: Is it ok now? — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 08:39, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
No, hauls 19 and 20 date doesn't match the source. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:00, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@The Rambling Man: Spotted. Done. Thanks. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 09:21, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Check ref titles for WP:DASH, e.g. ref 14, 17 to 38....
Done. As asked. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 01:24, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 11:05, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from —Vensatry (ping) 07:55, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • In these lists, alt text should simply name the subject.
Done. As asked. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 09:47, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • If the ground is commonly known as Chepauk, why do we have the title as M. A. Chidambaram Stadium?
Done. Used "the Chidambaram Stadium" instead. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 09:51, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • I never asked you to remove it. Actually, Chepauk is another name, so it should be noted in the opening sentence. —Vensatry (ping) 07:29, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Re-added the link. 23:53, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
@Vensatry: Done. Re-added it with a couple of footnotes. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 11:49, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
"Commonly known as the Chepauk Stadium or simply Chepauk due its location in the city's locality of Chepauk,[3] it is named after M. A. Chidambaram, former President of Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI),[4] the stadium was formerly known as the Madras Cricket Club ground" Again, if the venue is commonly called as Chepauk, why the title sits at MAC? Consider splitting the sentence as it looks extremely long. —Vensatry (ping) 17:20, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Splitted the sentence. Isn't MAC the official name while Chepauk is the colloquial name? :-) — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 05:31, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
To clarify, Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title; it generally prefers to use the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources. When you use say commonly it implies that we should go by that name. —Vensatry (ping) 05:56, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Vensatry: Are you suggesting that the article's title should be changed to "List of international cricket five-wicket hauls at Chepauk" instead? If that's the case, then Done. :-) — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 05:59, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It strikes me that this list title should only have been changed if the parent article is also retitled, and that a RM would be the best way of approaching it. Harrias talk 06:56, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
In any case, you shouldn't have moved the page. As Harrias says, the parent article should be renamed first. But before that, are we sure that Chepauk is the common name? I was suggesting you only to rephrase/remove "commonly" from the sentence. —Vensatry (ping) 07:41, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Vensatry: I have moved the page back to M. A. Chidambaram Stadium now and replaced "commonly" with "also". — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 11:09, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The acronym "MAC" should be noted as well. —Vensatry (ping) 11:08, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Vensatry: Done. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 13:42, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Given the ground hosted many matches when Chennai was Madras, I think you should add a note stating that Madras was renamed as Chennai in 1996.
Done. As asked. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 09:57, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "the stadium was formerly known as the Madras Cricket Club Ground" When it came to be known as MAC?
Done. Removed. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 09:57, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • It shouldn't be removed since that's another name. —Vensatry (ping) 07:29, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Vensatry: Done. Re-added it with a couple of footnotes. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 11:49, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "In total, it has hosted a further 30 Test matches" I'd suggest you to use "As of ..."
Done. As asked. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 09:47, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • during the 1987 Cricket World Cup -> during the 1987 World Cup
Done. As asked. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 09:47, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The first bowler to take a five-wicket haul in a Test match at Chepauk was Amar Singh for India against England in 1934; he finished with bowling figures of 7 wickets for 86 runs" Indication about the first ever Test match was already explained in the opening para. Secondly, did he finish the innings/match with those figures?
Done. He finished the innings with the mentioned bowling figures. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 09:47, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Australia is linked twice in the lead.
Done. Removed extra link. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 09:47, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • fifth and final Test -> fifth Test
Done. As asked. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 09:47, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Narendra Hirwani became the most recent cricketer" - Narendra Hirwani is the most recent cricketer
Done. As asked. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 09:47, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Done. As asked. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 09:47, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • You seem to use both "Year" and "Month Year". For eg., 1934, February 1952 – Be consistent.
Done. Used "Year". — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 09:47, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • As of 2015 -> As of August 2015
Done. As asked. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 09:47, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Pipe-linking Australian cricket team in India in 2012–13 to February 2013 looks like WP:EASTEREGG
Done. Removed link. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 09:47, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Vensatry: Done. Re added the link. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 06:32, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "30 bowlers have taken forty-seven Test match five-wicket" - Be consistent per WP:NUMNOTES
Done. As asked. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 09:47, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'd prefer '30 bowlers and 47 fifers' to 'thirty bowlers and forty-seven fifers'. —Vensatry (ping) 17:23, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Done. As asked. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 23:53, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The other five-wicket haul was made by West Indies' Ravi Rampaul, which was also the most recent five-wicket haul and the best figures in ODI cricket at this ground." - The "also the most recent five-wicket haul" bit is redundant.
Done. Removed. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 09:47, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rampaul took -> He took
Done. As asked. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 09:47, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • 2011 Cricket World Cup - 2011 Cricket World Cup
Done. As asked. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 09:47, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • 1 run -> one run
Done. As asked. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 09:47, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'd like to have a description of "drawn" and "tied" (wl) in the key.
Done. As asked. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 09:47, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The match has ended with a team having two or more batsmen left at the scheduled end of play who are 'not out'" – Where on the earth did you find this definition from? —Vensatry (ping) 17:23, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Vensatry: Done. Changed it to "The inconclusive result that occurs when the allotted playing time for the game expires without the teams having completed their innings." — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 23:53, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Vensatry: Done. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 06:18, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Vensatry: Is it the wrong wl? (wl means "wikilink" right?) — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 06:41, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
'The allotted playing time for the match expires without the batting team having completed their innings.' – There is a close paraphrasing issue with this phrase. —Vensatry (ping) 18:19, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Vensatry: Done. Rephrased. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 06:32, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Does a bowler taking a fifer during tournament matches hold any significance, why should we note it?
Done. Removed the symbol from the list and Key sections. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 02:14, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • This one is a personal preference - In the key you could simply name the team (for eg., India) instead of "India won". Likewise for drawn and tied matches. There is an obvious problem with sorting.
@Vensatry: How do I write for Drawn and Tied? I also remember asking you to help me with the sorting. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 09:47, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Simply put "Drawn" and "Tied" to maintain consistency. —Vensatry (ping) 17:37, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Done. As asked. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 00:12, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This one is done. What exactly are you looking for? —Vensatry (ping) 17:21, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Vensatry: You mentioned "There is an obvious problem with sorting". What do you mean by that actually? Need a clarification there. :-) — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 02:25, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I see that it has been addressed. —Vensatry (ping) 04:20, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Vensatry: If that's the case, then Done as asked. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 05:23, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • The "runs" entry for Aaqib Javed should be corrected.
Done. As asked. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 09:47, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

—Vensatry (ping) 09:10, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Harrias
;Comments from Harrias
  • "Drawn" and "Tied" need to be formatted as the rest in the Key.
Done as asked. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 14:02, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Key also needs to make it clear what the result column signifies. It isn't clear that "India" being the "Result of the match" means that India won.
@Harrias: Vensatry asked me to change it to just the team's name. It was "India Won", "West Indies Won" etc. before. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 14:02, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Which is fine, but the Key needs to make it clear what it means. Harrias talk 06:53, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Harrias: Done. As asked. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 07:16, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "86 runs.[13]Australia's" is missing a space.
Done. Added space. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 14:02, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "of the fifth and Test" I assume it's meant to be "fifth and final Test"?
Done. Written it as simply "fifth test". — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 14:02, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "This is also the best match-figures" Given that "match-figures" is plural, should it be "These are.."? Harrias talk 13:57, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Done as asked. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 14:02, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Harrias: Thanks for the support and for the offer, Harrias. I'm currently abstaining from reviewing anything (GAN, PR, FAC and FLC) at the moment (studies being a factor). Best of luck with your FLC though!  — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 12:47, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Vensatry and The Rambling Man: You two closed your comments a while back; are you willing to support? --PresN 14:42, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • I don't think it's mandatory to offer "supports" as a part of the review, isn't it? —Vensatry (ping) 08:38, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]


Closing this FLC as passed. Consider nominating the list at WP:TFLS, and remember that the best way to make sure that nominations get through the process faster is to review other nominations. --PresN 16:28, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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