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The list was promoted by Dabomb87 22:42, 28 February 2011 [1].

Grammy Award for Best Rap Album[edit]

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Nominator(s): Another Believer (Talk) 19:25, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it meets criteria and closely resembles other Grammy lists with FL status. Second verse same as the first...! --Another Believer (Talk) 19:25, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment I don't think "rap" is a musical genre; it is a recitative "contrived" by Afro-Americans in the United States. I think you need to change quality albums in the rap music genre at the Grammy Awards, a ceremony that was established in 1958 and originally called the Gramophone Awards to quality albums to award music featuring rapping... for example.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 20:22, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. The infobox now states that the award is presented for "quality albums with rapping", the lead indicates the same, and I updated the description in the second paragraph based on the category description guide for the 52nd Grammy Awards. --Another Believer (Talk) 21:04, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Adabow (talk · contribs) 03:15, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Adabow (talk · contribs) 08:21, 16 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • No, WP:FONTSIZE states "Editors should avoid manually inserting large and small fonts into prose...large tables may require a decreased font size". Adabow (talk · contribs) 03:15, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Increased and decreased font size should primarily be produced through automated facilities such as headings or through carefully designed templates." Afro (Talk) 20:31, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The Nationality column could be replaced by a sentence in the lead or a footnote—All winners of the award so far are American.—indopug (talk) 04:41, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Should the column not be kept for the sake of consistency with other Grammy lists? Also, it seems to me that the lead should summarize the information displayed in the table. Without the Nationality column, the sentence included in the lead would need a source to verify that all winners are American. --Another Believer (Talk) 17:25, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There's no reason to include the column if the only rationale is because the other lists have it. Each article is unique. WesleyDodds (talk) 03:48, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that each list is different. Do you have a response to the second part of my reply? --Another Believer (Talk) 16:50, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 18:47, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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  • "The first award was presented to the group..." perhaps you could add "the following year" here to make it clear when it was, in case readers don't know when the 38th Grammys was held...
Done. --Another Believer (Talk) 18:43, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • " with a total of five" not sure you need "a total of".
Done. --Another Believer (Talk) 18:43, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Maybe worth just noting in the lead that Jay Z won one of his eight nominations.
Done. --Another Believer (Talk) 18:43, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Odd one this, not sure if Kanye West should sort by his surname. A little confusing compared with the rest of the sorting, all of which (admittedly as a result of "stage names") go by the first letter.
My preference would be to keep the current "sortname" template. There may be many stage names on the list, but I think people should be sorted by last name when possible. --Another Believer (Talk) 18:43, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "also known as Puff Daddy" I'd say in this case it would be accurate and fair to say he was "credited" as Puff Daddy. What do you think?
Works for me! Done. --Another Believer (Talk) 18:43, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Done. --Another Believer (Talk) 18:43, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 17:52, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • "Award recipients often include the producers, engineers, and/or mixers associated with the nominated work in addition to the recording artists." I don't see any evidence of this anywhere...
The general source. I can add an incline citation if necessary (some Grammy FLs have it, others don't...) --Another Believer (Talk) 18:43, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't wish to be a pain (you know me, never knowingly awkward...!) but if I was approaching this kind of list the first time round, I wouldn't have a clue where to start looking for this kind of evidence. Perhaps the inline citations are needed... The Rambling Man (talk) 18:47, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Good call! Done. --Another Believer (Talk) 18:50, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment – Check the publisher of reference 19; there's an s missing from Los Angeles Times. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 23:26, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Good catch! --Another Believer (Talk) 23:36, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


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