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Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Younger Actor in a Drama Series

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Nominator(s): SoapFan12 21:09, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I am nominating the Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Younger Actor in a Drama Series for featured list because I believe that this meets the criteria. Also, I previously nominated Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Younger Actress in a Drama Series and it became an FL. Therefore, I have made the same requirements as I did for the other article and I strongly believe that it should become an FL. Thank you.

• Support I don't see any immediate issues that need to be addressed. Article is in very good shape.Caringtype1 (talk) 21:18, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 07:59, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Comments "is a Emmy Award that" -> "an Emmy..."  Done "The award was introduced following two years of the ceremony being held off-air. [1] " remove space before ref, but what is the relevance of the off-air award ceremonies to this award?  Done "one of the Daytime Emmy Awards presented" okay, so perhaps rather than "is an Emmy Award", it should be "is a Daytime Emmy Award"? Or, to avoid repetition, just have in the lead that "is an award..."  Done I don't think a "child actor" is an appropriate link for people who can win the award up to the age of 25.  Done "While the other actors nominated in the category were over 25.[3]" this is not a sentence, it should be merged with the previous one.  Done "has held the most wins" -> "holds the most".  Done Why does Bryan Buffington not have an article? Buffington's does not have an article, since no one created one. Therefore, what should I do? Could write one? Or red link it if he passes WP:N. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:39, 18 June 2013 (UTC)  Done. Thank you again. :) SoapFan12 09:40, 19 June 2013 (UTC) "Indicates the winning performance." -> "Indicates the winning actor"  Done "Table heading of "Actress" should probably say "Actor"?  Done MOS:DTT compliance required, row and col scopes needed please.  Done Ref 4 is incomplete, needs access date etc.  Done The Rambling Man (talk) 13:48, 15 June 2013 (UTC) Overall, I have fixed and corrected everything. Thank you :) SoapFan12 22:39, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Resolved comments from Arre 11:56, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Comments from Arre 9 Here are a few concerns I have: "...Drama Series is a Emmy Award..." ---> "is an Emmy Award"  Done "It is an award presented annually..." ---> "It is presented annually..."  Done "to recognize a young actor under the age of 25, who has delivered an outstanding performance in a role while working within the daytime drama industry" ---> IMO this should be reworded to something like "in recognition of a young actor below the age of 25...", just a suggestion, though.  Done In the lead "Daytime Emmy Award at the time at age 15.[1] while the other actors" ---> is this meant to be a period or comma? Fix it.  Done "Its most recent recipient is Chandler Massey, for the role of Will Horton, on Days of our Lives" ---> just another suggestion but this should be reworded to something else like "The most recent recipient of the award is Chandler Massey, for his role of Will Horton on Days of our Lives".  Done "In 2000, he also became the actor to have received the most nominations, with six" ---> "...with a total of six", this sounds more proper.  Done "later reached five nominations as well" ---> "...have also received five nominations each".  Done Just out of curiosity, is there an actual need for the Double-dagger image here? It is needed for WP:ACCESS, they don't need bold. In each image of an actor who has been recognized in this category, I feel that the show they play the character on should also be stated. Especially in cases like Dondre Whitfield; it appears that the character he plays/played doesn't have an article, so the title of the series should be added.  Done Joshua Morrow's image: Please add (left). We all know who is who in that picture, but it's just more proper that way.  Done Same with Scott Clifton's image, add (left)  Done Chandler Massey caption: "In 2012, Chandler Massey was the first actor to win a Daytime Emmy Award for playing a gay character.[3] He receive the award again in 2013" ---> "Chandler Massey is the first actor to receive the award for portraying a gay character, having won in 2012 and 2013 for his role of William Horton (or Will, whichever is common) on Days of our Lives."  Done Under "Total awards won": Days Of Our Lives ---> Days of our Lives  Done Ref 48: Convert POPSUGAR to PopSugar.  Done Ref 59: Remove the brackets from "emmyonlinetv".  Done Once these points have been addressed I'd be happy to support this as a Featured list :). Regards, Arre 09:14, 24 June 2013 (UTC) These concerns have been all addressed. Thanks for reviewing the article! SoapFan12 10:54, 24 June 2013 (UTC) Thanks again for taking a look at the article :)! It's greatly appreciated. SoapFan12 02:15, 25 June 2013 (UTC) Sorry but there are just a couple more points I have before supporting: "The most recent recipient of the award is Chandler Massey, for the role of Will Horton, on Days of our Lives." ---> "The most recent recipient of the award is Chandler Massey for his portrayal of Will Horton on Days of our Lives".  Done "Currently, Guiding Light has the most recipients of this award, with a total of seven wins." ---> remove "currently". Also I think it is worth noting that Guiding Light is defunct.  Done. Also I believe that Guiding Light is needed since for the leads you need to cover every sections of the article. Am I right? Do you know what i mean? "The criteria later changed to require the actor to be 25 years old or younger to be eligible to win" ---> Can you state which year the criteria was altered? Instead of just stating "later"? Also, too many "to"s, this sentence needs rewording. Before, it should be clarified that there was some sort of controversy or the rules were different. Because there is nothing stated about the criteria before. I hope you know what I mean, this sentence just doesn't flow well.  Done "Since 1999, Jonathan Jackson holds the most wins with three awards for his role as Lucky Spencer on General Hospital" ---> "Since 1999, Jonathan Jackson has held the most wins with a total of three from six nominations for his role as Lucky Spencer..."  Done It sounds odd still... As I said, add "has" before "held". "In 2000, he also became the actor to have received the most nominations, with a total of six, beating Bryan Buffington's record of five." ---> "In 2000, Jackson also became the actor to have received the most nominations, surpassing Bryan Buffington's..."  Done Also, where it says "Bryan Buffington's record of five", add "tally" after "record", just to add a bit of variety in wording.  Done Another thing, in the info-box it says "best" performance. Is this an official description?, or shouldn't "best" be "outstanding" performance?  Done Arre 06:43, 27 June 2013 (UTC) Thanks again Arre! This means a lot that you have been able to do this. :) SoapFan12 10:51, 27 June 2013 (UTC) To avoid the italics for "National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences" that are in the work parameter, you could add around the academy name, or just move "National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences" behind the emmy online website in publisher.  Done "The criteria was altered, requiring the actor will not be eligible to win unless they are 25 years old or younger" ---> this sounds even more awkward, try wording it differently. Just say "The criteria was altered, requiring that the actor be 25 years old or below". Also, I feel like it still sounds really awkward to say randomly in the lead. Maybe all of the requirements should be in the first paragraph, and record-breakers/milestones should be in the second paragraph. It just doesn't flow well.  Done "Networks had declined to broadcast the show during a time of voting integrity rumors and waning interest." ---> is there a source for this?  Done Ref 3: "AfterEllen.com and TheBacklot.com" should not be in italics.  Done Arre 06:27, 28 June 2013 (UTC) Thanks! :) "Since 1999, Jonathan Jackson held the most wins" ---> still haven't added "has" before held..  Done First paragraph is too big compared to second. Like I said. Move "The most recent recipient of the award is Chandler Massey, for his portrayal of Will Horton, on Days of our Lives. Guiding Light has the most recipients of this award, with a total of seven wins." to the second paragraph.  Done "The criteria was altered, requiring that the actor to be 25 years old or below" ---> you can add "later" now considering you have mentioned some things about this directly before. Change it to "The criteria was later altered, requiring that the actor be aged 25 or below".  Done I was just wondering, is there a "previously known as" or former name parameter for the info-box? If there is it would be helpful to list the former name of the award there, instead of having it bold & in the lead. No there isn't. I have checked the Template:Infobox award and unfortunately there is no parameter . Arre 14:11, 28 June 2013 (UTC) These concerns have been addressed. I am very sorry for the delayed. Thanks! SoapFan12 14:23, 28 June 2013 (UTC) "The criteria was later altered, requiring that the actor to be 25 years old or below." ---> this line still hasn't been adjusted, please see above.  Done "Years before this category was introduce" ---> introduced  Done "networks had declined" ---> remove "had"  Done Arre 11:20, 29 June 2013 (UTC) Fixes and done. Thanks! :) SoapFan12 11:31, 29 June 2013 (UTC) "The criteria was later changed making it actors 25 years old or younger are eligible to win" sounds improper. Change it to "The criteria was later altered, requiring that the actor be aged 25 or below". After this is fixed I'll support :) Arre 11:36, 29 June 2013 (UTC)  Done. SoapFan12 11:39, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

• Support now, great work. Arre 11:56, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for everything! Thanks for the support! SoapFan12 12:11, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Resolved comments from Crisco 1492 (talk)

;Comments from Crisco 1492 For the Google News archive sources, at the very least include a page number so that it remains verifiable if Google News goes down.  Done Suggest archiving other online sources with webcitation.org I'm sorry but I don't understand what you mean. What do you want me to do? You can use this page (step-by-step instructions there) to manually archive all online references (except Google News), which will guarantee they remain accessible even if the site goes down. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:06, 28 June 2013 (UTC)  Done Any way to avoid the white spaces in sections 2 through 4? I have none. Do you have any suggestions? I was thinking columns, but that's hard to do with tables. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:06, 28 June 2013 (UTC) I believe that this is not necessarily major problem. Therefore, I think I should just leave it alone. the 12th Annual Daytime Emmy Awards ceremony in 1985. It is presented annually - Annual / annually I do not understand what I need to change. Can you please clarify? The repetition of annual/annually is redundant. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:06, 28 June 2013 (UTC)  Done Networks had declined to broadcast the show during a time of voting integrity rumors and waning interest. - when? They don't say when, it just says that the networks had declined in the source. In any other sources? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:06, 28 June 2013 (UTC)  Done Not really keen on having "must be under 25", "these guys were over 25", "the rules were changed in 2007". Particularly since that opens the possibility for numerous over-25 winners between 1985 and 2006 (inclusive). Well, I believe that I've made a mistake because it numerous sources they don't tell us when the rules were changed however in 2007 they forced that rule. Might need to double check then. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:06, 28 June 2013 (UTC) Same situation as the columns : I believe that that the year is not necessarily major problem. Therefore, I think I should just leave it alone. Alright, so long as there is no inaccurate information. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:09, 28 June 2013 (UTC) Images all look fine. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:18, 27 June 2013 (UTC) Thanks for reviewing. Sorry if I have too many questions :O/:(. SoapFan12 17:10, 27 June 2013 (UTC) Thanks again! :) SoapFan12 12:55, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

• Support on prose and images. Good job, Soap. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:09, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you so much! This means a lot that you took time by giving these comments. I'm so grateful! :) SoapFan12 13:14, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Resolved comments from Underneath-it-All
;Comments: Ref. 3 needs a date retrieved  Done emmyonline.org → EmmyOnline.org and PRNewswire.com (my personal preference, you don't have to change it) I rather not change it. National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences → shouldn't be in italics How do you remove the italics? Do I remove the whole work section off? Ref 43 → add

Support: Great work! – Underneath-it-All (talk) 21:09, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the support! It means a lot! SoapFan12 12:57, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

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