Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Hurricane Daniel (2006)

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The article was promoted by SandyGeorgia 23:35, 28 February 2009 [1].

Hurricane Daniel (2006)[edit]

Nominator(s): –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone, ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk)

I've copyedited and cleaned up the article, although Hurricanehink (talk · contribs) wrote most of the current content. It passed WPTC A-class review a while ago. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 00:41, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As author of the article, I added myself as a co-nominator. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:38, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments -

Newspapers titles in the references should be in italics. If you're using {{cite news}}, use the work field for the title of the paper, and the publisher field for the name of the actual company that publishes the paper.

Otherwise, sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:48, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done (not sure why I have such trouble with those italics...) –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 16:45, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Eventually you'll not have to be reminded. (grins). Ealdgyth - Talk 20:42, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

~~Link named storm in the lead~~
Initial predictions suggested that the cyclone would through the Hawaiian Islands as a tropical storm. I think something is missing
It tracked across the Atlantic Ocean and Caribbean Sea with little associated convection, and on July 12... Link convection
On July 19, the eye of Daniel became apparent on satellite imagery, which organized into a pinhole eye. explain what a pinhole eye is
It underwent an eyewall replacement cycle as it turned to the west-northwest... link eyewall replacement cycle
After completing the cycle, Daniel attained its peak winds of 150 mph (240 km/h) early on July 22. After maintaining peak winds for about 18 hours... After...After... repetitive, try to change the wording for one of the two sentences

Just a few minor things, mainly with linking technical or uncommon terms, otherwise the article is very nicely done. Cyclone biskit 16:14, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

All done. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 16:45, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good to me, Support :) Cyclone biskit 17:52, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 17:58, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Guyinblack25

I've never reviewed a weather article before, so I hope you forgive my ignorance with the material. Overall, though the article is short, it is informative and well sourced. The images look to be very appropriate and significantly improve the topic in my opinion. My only concern is the prose seemed more suited for those familiar with weather.

"Tracked" is used often, but sounded weird to me ("It tracked across..."). I assume it means that it moved or was tracked by someone. If this is the case, then I suggest saying so to give more variance to the article's words and make it more accessible to general readers.
- This is pretty standard amongst tropical cyclone articles, but I'll change it if you still feel it's necessary. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 18:59, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
At the beginning of "Meteorological history"- "A tropical wave moved off the west coast of Africa on July 2." I think adding how this connects to the hurricane would give context to this awkward sentence. Maybe add "Hurricane Daniel began as..."
- Good point, fixed. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 18:59, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Is the "by" really needed in "By later that day"? Seems redundant to me.
- Most of the events in the hurricane's history are simply estimations by the NHC; thus, if an intensification was estimated to have taken place on Tuesday evening (as an example), there's a possibility it occurred prior to that time. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 18:59, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Some references are placed in the middle of sentences. I think it makes the sentence harder to read by inserting an unnecessary break. I normally place such references at the end of the appropriate sentence for ease of reading.
- References in the middle of a sentence are allowed, and I believe they cause less of a disruption than a block of footnotes at the end of the sentence. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 18:59, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
How is precipitation dropping on the East Maui watershed beneficial to Maui?

Not prose related but two of links have issues

Star-Bulletin changes sub-domains
- Works fine for me. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 18:59, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Maui News returns a page not found error.
- Fixed. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 18:59, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Other than the above list, I don't see any major problems. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 18:36, 11 February 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Thanks for the comments, –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 18:59, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gave it another sweep and two minor issues stood out to me.

In the first paragraph of "Meteorological history", what kind of "development" happened south of Mexico? Is it the same kind mentioned in the second paragraph (Tropical cyclogenesis)? I think some clarification would help readers understand the article.
Very minor issue, the first two sentences of the third paragraph both use which. Just seems a bit repetitive. Maybe get rid of the second one and put "temporarily halting its intensification trend" between em dashes.

Other than those last two, I'm pretty much sold on the article. Keep up the good work. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 20:27, 11 February 2009 (UTC))[reply]

{{done}} –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 07:31, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support: My issues have been addressed. The article is short, but informative, well sourced, and makes good use of images. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 16:53, 23 February 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Support - on my first read-through, I almost wanted to complain about a few jargon-y terms. However, on a second pass, I found that any terms that I didn't know were wikilinked. I couldn't find anything else big, so a full support. Good work again, Julian.
- Now, the one thought: "...began a general weakening trend..." doesn't sound quite right. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 07:25, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - Fixed. Thanks for the support and comments. :) –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 07:31, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support, prose is looking good after a few tweaks. --Laser brain (talk) 03:32, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for the support and copyedits, much appreciated. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 03:35, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support with the caveat that I'd like to see just a little bit of explanation in this article as to what an annular hurricane is? I'm unfamiliar with the term, and I suspect most people will be. Karanacs (talk) 16:55, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I added a sentence explaining the term. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:38, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Image review: just one issue, please point to the page hosting the image, not to the image itself for File:TD Daniel (2006).JPG. Jappalang (talk) 07:24, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, I did that. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:38, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reference formatting is not consistent: sometimes the publisher is listed before the title, as an author; other times, it's listed after the title. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:25, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I fixed the author vs. publisher thing (changed CPHC, etc. to publisher). --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:57, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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