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Snyder, New York[edit]

3 articles

Entranceways at Main Street at Lamarck Drive and Smallwood Drive

Entranceway at Main Street at Roycroft Boulevard

I believe this is a complete topic. All notable aspects of the town have been included.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 18:53, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What articles are included? –Juliancolton | ^Talk 19:04, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- You posted while I was in the middle of constructing the page. You can see the articles above. There are two other things in town with articles that I know of: Amherst Central High School, which is the public high school for the Town of Amherst and not just Snyder and Daemen College. The high school serves Eggertsville and part of Williamsville as well as Snyder and may or may not belong in a topic about the town of Amherst, but probably not the hamlet, IMO. Daemen is not really important to people from Snyder, as a longtime resident. I don't really see most municipalities having to include any college as part of their topic. I probably should have hashed this out on the topics question page before submitting, but just thought of this now.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 06:39, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - I'm sorry, what's here is nice work, but I am of the opinion that geographic place topics should contain all the articles for things within that place (where possible - obviously Overview topics are different here). Hence I think this topic should contain the Amherst Central High School and Daemen College articles. I can see that if there was an Amherst, New York topic, then it would include Snyder, New York as a subarticle, and the argument with some (not saying you) would then go that the school and college don't need including in the Amherst topic because they should be part of a Snyder topic. Well to remove any ambiguity here I think the place in question should always be in the lower-scope topic of the two. To give a comparable example, take the DuSable Museum of African American History. People come from all over the place to visit that, but it is situated in Washington Park, Chicago, and hence it deserves to be in the Washington Park, Chicago topic - which it is. Also I'm sure Daemen College is pretty important to the people that attend Daemen College - rst20xx (talk) 21:43, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I moved to Snyder in the summer before 5th grade and graduated from Amherst High School. I have never met anyone who attended Daemen College from Amherst. I almost don't consider it a part of the hamlet for this reason. Washington Park has seven schools and we never determined if any of them have articles. It just did not seem to be a relevant consideration. I think most geographical topics will probably exclude local high schools and colleges. Think about an article about a major city with a dozens of architectural structures that have articles. I don't think including every single educational institution is good policy. Right now the only geographic places are very micro level places. This topic almost approaches a level of a municipality. I just think that a municipality should topic should be focussed on the general article about the municipality and its landmarks. Adding every single architectural structure that has an article seems beyond the proper scope.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 22:16, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well with a big city there will be recursive subtopics to smaller areas of the city until the subtopics reach a manageable size. Anyway, the first half of your post seems to touch on the question of whether schools are notable enough to merit articles (and hence GAs). Undoubtedly this varies from school to school. If any of the Washington Park schools merit articles then to be honest I think the topic should be demoted. If Amherst Central High School doesn't merit an article then that article should be deleted - rst20xx (talk) 23:21, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
A topic with just the name of a city sounds like a supertopic that would have subtopics within it. Maybe you could narrow your focus and turn these articles into a more specialized topic for now. --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 02:05, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- For a larger municipality it might have subtopics. For a hamlet like this, most wikipedia articles are of marginal notability and subtopics are not really feasible.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 02:12, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose unless the 3 high schools and the college is included (you could merge all 4 into one article, which would definatly be GAable). Nergaal (talk) 04:56, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, you might create an Education in Snyder, New York article. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:13, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - Although they are proud of their schools, I would sooner work on the two schools that have articles. I don't think it is encyclopedic for a municipality of that size to have such an article, which is not to say that I could not create a well-sourced article that would pass WP:N.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 22:25, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Close with no consensus to promote - rst20xx (talk) 16:56, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]