Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Fair-Use Bot

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User:Fair-Use Bot[edit]

Operator: Werdna

Automatic or Manually Assisted: Automatic

Programming Language(s): Perl

Function Summary: Removing fair-use images from non-mainspace pages.

Edit period(s) (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): To be advised, but no more often than weekly.

Edit rate requested: About 5 edits per minute

Already has a bot flag (Y/N): N

Function Details: Searches all categories and subcategories without the words "public domain" of Category:Fair use images. For each image, checks for usage outside of mainspace, and removes such usage. If it's not on a discussion page, posts a note on the talk page. If it's on a discussion page, posts on the discussion page.

Discussion[edit]

Bot was requested by Dmcdevit — Werdna talk criticism 05:50, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Run a diff and change the name.... do you know how much I thought the bot was insulting me at first :o -- Tawker 06:02, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The bot needs a userpage to describe what it's doing, and with the {{bot}} template on (so that admins can emergency-stop it from its userpage with the 'block' link in the template). --ais523 08:27, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Done. — Werdna talk criticism 08:42, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Got a few questions:
  1. Will this bot REMOVE the image, or just inline it? — xaosflux Talk 17:56, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Remove. This is, however, flexible. — Werdna talk criticism 13:06, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Can this bot skip pages approved under Wikipedia:FUE? — xaosflux Talk 17:56, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Sure. — Werdna talk criticism 13:06, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Will this bot do anything with image dispaly in categories? — xaosflux Talk 17:56, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    No. — Werdna talk criticism 13:06, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    1. Thanks, — xaosflux Talk 17:56, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Will this bot skip templates?Voice-of-All 02:02, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have a request. Can it put, even if its only using html comments (<!-- blah -->), what pages the image was on if it removes them? I'm conjuring up various ideas of vandalism for which having the bot note on the image page what pages it was removed from would be very useful. Kevin_b_er 20:43, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm... elaborate? — Werdna talk criticism 13:06, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The bot could perhaps comment out the images instead. It would be better in the case of mistagged FU images, but I doubt that would be a problem. Additionally, removing them is a bit more definitive, which is what we need when it comes to copyright here.Voice-of-All 17:31, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Have you seen how OrphanBot lists what pages the images were removed from by editing the image description page? Could the same be done, even within html comments? This is in the event of an image being tagged as fair use for various reasons(including vandalism) and then being changed back to freely licensed for various other reasons. The flip flop occasionally happens, and keeping track of what page(s) the bot removes the image(s) from would be a good thing. Kevin_b_er 22:22, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I've seen how OrphanBot does that, and it seems quite useful. I agree that this should be done, if possible. -- RM 12:09, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, that is a good idea.Voice-of-All 17:31, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why doesn't the bot just tag all the pages with a new category and users can deal with the backlog manually, so there's no room for damage? Just a suggestion.--Andeh 15:30, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That would be too much of a backlog.Voice-of-All 17:26, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • What if an image is included into a page with a complex template, e.g. {{fubar|Fairuse.jpg}} instead of [[Image:Fairuse.jpg]]? And what if it's like {{fubar|Image:Fairuse.jpg}} or {{fubar|[[Image:Fairuse.jpg]]}}? MaxSem 17:30, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Indeed, it would be best to bypass templates and treat them as mainspace.Voice-of-All 00:40, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am concerned that these image removing bots don't create a friendly and collaborative atmosphere. So I guess my question is how do you hope to maintain the friendly and collaborative atmosphere of the Wiki. I am also concerned about such a bot being run by a user who now appears to have left Wikipedia. [1] Cedars 05:07, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Approved for trial. - tho I'm pretty sure this is tested code. Let's see what it does -- Tawker 19:40, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Status Unknown. What is the status of this bot? -- RM 15:01, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Forgotten, for a while. I might find some time to work on this. For the moment, close it. — Werdna talk 15:48, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawn by operator. It can be reactivated at any time if you want to work on this. Please let us know at Wikipedia talk:Bots/Requests for approval if you'd like to reactivate this request. -- RM 17:10, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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