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Excellent call. But can this procedure handle a major news event?[edit]

It was impossible to edit coherently now, so Gd knows what it would have looked like in a week. Good admin decision IMO. Do you have the admin resources to keep it up to date? I did not know you had this facility. I assume several admins will be called via a voluntary process. My only concern is you fellow eds may be very busy. I fear events may be fast moving and painful. Cheers Irondome (talk) 05:17, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your note. I've protected the page just to stop edit warring. What goes into the page or not is dependent on the consensus of the editors editing that page; and not my personal opinion. If you wish any future assistance, feel free to drop in a note. Thanks. Wifione Message 05:39, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
it will have to be semi-protected as a first step. Things are moving so fast that regular eds cant go through this channel, this is an unusually fast moving complex real time event. Eds cant keep up. I suggest downgrade to semi protect or we wont be physically able to make the edit proposals. Keep this level for 24 hrs, but Im worried we would have lost 24 hrs editing in the time. Just a rising concern. I think regular eds of clue have got the message loud and clear. Cheers! Irondome (talk) 06:16, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Request semi-protection of 2013 Ghouta attacks[edit]

As several editors have stated on the talk page, full protection is unnecessary. Most issues were with IPs. --JFH (talk) 18:34, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Wifione, a request was posted for the article to be dropped down to semi-protection at WP:RFPP and is currently open there. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 09:20, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
More accurately: the discussion on the talk page following the protection action has uniquely favoured semi-protection, apart from acceptance of an initial 24-hour full protection. I assume that for some unexpected reason, you went offline for 53 hours, and you assumed that other Wikipedians would double-check your protection action. Unfortunately, the present admin culture seems to be that other admins are worried about overriding your minority decision - I'm not blaming you - Wikipedians, even admins, are not obliged to be online 24h/day, 7days/week, especially for any of the many possible unexpected personal reasons that could morally justify it. Maybe now another admin will take the courage and override, given that the formal rules have been satisfied... Boud (talk) 19:35, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
My apologies Boud, Jfhutson, Nick, for not responding earlier. Actually my earlier protection note on the talk page of the article specified clearly that any administrator could lift the protection if editors agreed to discuss contentious material before putting the same on the article. As I see, Black Kite has already reduced the protection to semi-protect quite sensibly. Do leave a message out here in case you wish me to undertake any other administrative action on the page. Regards. Wifione Message 04:05, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 28 August 2013[edit]

Q10[edit]

Are you sure that question is reasonable? Not that a new CSD criteria is impossible, but thousands of minds have gone through CSD criteria and it's pretty rare that a new valid CSD criteria is developed. Asking a candidate to do it on the spot, with only a week when average users have an indefinite time period to ponder such things, I just think it's highly improbable that the candidate could answer that question. Perhaps you could ask them to pretend they invented one of the existing criteria and attempt to write a logical summary to convince the community to adopt it?--v/r - TP 01:57, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Besides, any new criteria they propose is likely going to draw the ire of the "inclusionist" crowds who won't look favorably on someone thinking we need easier ways to delete articles.--v/r - TP 01:57, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hi TParis. Good to see you drop by. Firstly, it's good the candidate passed the RfA. Secondly, I guess my question was intended to test the intellectual depth of the candidate rather than anything else. As it is, things ended well. Do drop by if there's anything else I can help with. Sorry for the delayed response. Best. Wifione Message 18:58, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reg Indian institute of personnel management[edit]

Hi, I saw the page Indian institute of personnel management. The page was left orphan from 2010. this page has to be renamed as National Institute of Personnel Management.

I just created a page on national institute of personnel management and i got a notification of copying content. please help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shyamkumarvp (talk • contribs) 11:34, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Let me look into this Shyam. Thanks for your note. Wifione Message 19:03, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 04 September 2013[edit]

The Signpost: 11 September 2013[edit]

Just 'one' for old times[edit]

When I first saw your moniker years ago, being a multilinguist I read it phonetically as whiffy-owné. For some odd reason, I still do  :) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:04, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ha ha ha ha. Thanks for the note :) I like that pronunciation. Call me whatever Kudpung, but drop in whenever you find time :) It's great to see you around. Take care. Wifione Message 15:04, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 18 September 2013[edit]

Thale film article edit conflict[edit]

Hello, can you please take a look at an issue with the article for the film Thale? Here is the article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thale_(film)

Another editor keeps reverting edits and making false accusations of vandalism saying that a listing of user ratings on IMDb and user ratings on Rotten Tomatoes and a Wordpress blog are reliable sources, when they are not. Blogs and IMDb are not reliable sources.

The section that keeps being reverted where the Wordpress blog is supposedly listed as a reliable source is this:

Specialist review site NordicFantasy praised the uniqueness of the film and said it "manages to seamlessly blend a crime mystery with a triller in a fantasy wrapping. Thale does things that fantasy movies almost never do." [1]

I suspect, though I could be wrong, that this Wordpress blog belongs to the editor who keeps reverting these edits.

The section that also keeps being added back about Rotten Tomatoes and IMDb user ratings is this:

Rottentomatoes is less positive. Six out of 11 critics gave the movie a positive review (55% on the 'Tomatometer'). The audience on that website was even less positive; the movie has a 31% approval rating based on 1258 user ratings. IMDB rates the movie unfavorably as well, with a score of 5,4/10 based on votes from 2264 users.

Please correct me if I am wrong if these are in fact reliable sources, since it seems to me they are clearly not going by Wikipedia.

If you could help settle this issue I would greatly appreciate it, thanks.Neptune's Trident (talk) 15:45, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • I just went through this article. You both have a considerable number of reverts. Will keep a watch and see what can be done. Thanks for the note. Wifione Message 14:50, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Do I stand a chance?[edit]

Hi, Wifione. Thank you for responding! I agree with you in normal cases (that you should just go for it if you feel right), but for someone who has failed 3 times, failing again after so many years would really be upsetting and would surely have a permanent scar. I want be absolutely sure before any step is taken... :) Rschen's WP:RRN seems like a really good idea... I might do just that after waiting a bit longer for the WP:ER, as it's still empty... Kind regards, Rehman 00:09, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 25 September 2013[edit]

The Signpost: 02 October 2013[edit]

The Signpost: 09 October 2013[edit]

RfA[edit]

Hello Wifione! Quite a while ago I requested an RfA nomination from you and we discussed it over e-mail but the timing never worked out. I'm interested in giving it another go now, though, so if you're not too busy maybe you can let me know if you still think I'd be a good candidate. Thanks! --Cerebellum (talk) 04:46, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there, I've actually decided to go ahead and try nominating myself - you can view the RfA here. --Cerebellum (talk) 23:31, 22 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ah I would have loved to nominate you. Nevertheless, best wishes for the RfA and good to see you offering your services for administration. My apologies for the delay in responding. Kind regards. Wifione Message 16:48, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, I'm afraid my impatience got the best of me this time :). Thank you for the kind words. --Cerebellum (talk) 17:02, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE September 2013 drive wrap-up[edit]

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The Signpost: 16 October 2013[edit]

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Barnstar of Diplomacy
Re; Healthcare.gov. Bearian (talk) 16:23, 24 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a ton :) Kind regards. Wifione Message 16:30, 24 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zack Quaccia[edit]

Hi. I am wondering why you re-listed the above debate? The reason the article is nominated is because the subject is just not notable, and the reason he is not notable is because no one cares about him ('cept of course his mommy). There are not going to be 10 or 20 people coming to talk about an article about a nobody. You got three editors giving well articulated valid reasons for the article to go and none for it to stay. Heck even the original author is saying he really has no reason to keep it. I doubt another week will change anything. Gtwfan52 (talk) 16:39, 24 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Gtwfan. Thanks for leaving the note. When I relisted the discussion, there was one delete !vote, your nomination, one author who was requesting advice, one administrator not ready to either support or oppose, and one ip which is a single purpose account for AfD vote propping up. Post my relisting, the administrator has !voted delete. In general, I shan't close the discussion; there's no hurry as of right now. Wait for seven more days. Another administrator (or I) should close this discussion as delete, in case the current situation holds. Do ask me for any other assistance. Wifione Message 17:04, 24 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Rfa...[edit]

I apologize for the delay in responding to your message. I'm definitely flattered by the offer! :) But I took some time to mull it over and decided not yet (my time is a bit limited lately, and I wouldn't be able to devote my full energy towards a rfa). If there comes a point where I change my mind, would you mind if I contacted you about the nomination? Ruby 2010/2013 02:05, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, no problems. Just leave a note out here with a diff of this conversation. Best wishes and keep doing the great work. Wifione Message 02:46, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, will be sure to do so. Best regards, Ruby 2010/2013 02:53, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 23 October 2013[edit]

GOCE Blitz wrap-up; join us for the November drive[edit]

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A brownie for you![edit]

Thanks for giving me Autopatrolled rights, I will try and make articles of a decent standard. Matty.007 15:44, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Warky T. Chocobo[edit]

Hi, I'm not sure you would also handle this, but due to the Warky T. Chocobo deletion several redirects are now dead ends. Esw01407 (talk) 22:22, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Esw thanks for the note. Will correct them. Kind regards. Wifione Message 00:42, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Wifione Message

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Will check. Good to see you around. Wifione Message 00:42, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! :) Rehman 14:43, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion review for Warky T. Chocobo[edit]

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Warky T. Chocobo. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. LTC b2412 Troops Talk RFC Inbox 16:45, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note. I won't be commenting in the Deletion Review unless someone wishes me to comment. The best method to get your article back would be to prove its notability. WP:BIO would provide you more details, especially WP:ENTERTAINER. Ask me for any help you might need in the Deletion Review. Regards. Wifione Message 21:00, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Wifione, Hi there. This is actually WarkyTheChocobo. I can't believe how many problems have arisen from this whole wikipedia thing. Lots of fans are wondering what to do about it, and honestly, when the page was up, it was missing a lot of facts about me, and productions I have/will/work on. I didn't think I was allowed to comment on a page about myself, and so I kept out of it. However, That WP:ENTERTAINER section has 3 points to make this work. #2, well I certainly have a cult following, since I'm labeled as "Fancruft". I perform in concerts with multiple thousands of people ever year, and have tabloids even asking about my sexuality. I would like to think I have some following enough to be news. #3. making unique contributions to the field of entertainment. This one, I have made a SERIOUS contribution. I'm an LDS (Mormon) Pop singer with 3 albums, a single, and am currently releasing albums 4, 5 and 6, through the movie studio production house HaleStorm Entertainment, and StoneFive Studios. (The studio has released a lot of movies, i.e. Heaven's Door, Christmas Wish, Singles Ward, The RM, The Book of Mormon Movie, and more.) I am the ONLY released and published Mormon Parodist out there. I also do Mormon Stand up Comedy, however there have been others with this. In the realm of music though, I can only find someone from the early 1990's who released a single called, "MormonRap". I believe that I contribute immensely to the Mormon Parody Music Scene, as I am the only published one. In Regards to #1, I have done many stage productions in New York, Long Island, (as that's where I'm from) usually as a lead or a principle, whether it be musicals, or actual stage work. I have been in movies as well, though not as notably as main characters, but my IMDB page (which I can't even edit) isn't verifiable according to Wiki standards. I work on television as well, including the upcoming new series, Next Best bartender, which has been picked up by many channels, FOX/CW/ION/and more affiliates.

In regards to WP:BIO - significant, interesting, or unusual enough to deserve attention or to be recorded. Is it normal for a Mormon Pop Singer to dress up as a chocobo and be invited across the nation as a guest at multiple Anime/Video Game/Sci Fi/ Yaoi/ Furry Conventions? I play video game music in costume, which (piano squall) has done as well, however there's something very interesting and unusual about me. I don't use my thumbs to play piano. I'm missing a nerve in my hands that allow me to stretch my pinky and my pointer finger past the normal limits to compensate. Since I taught myself piano as well, I never realized the thumbs were even part of the normal playstyle. I am also one of the top 50 guests of animecons.com as I have been to many conventions since 1999.

I know fancruft is used usually with fictional characters. I assure you I am real. There are now facebook posts talking about people believing in me, like Santa, or clapping their hands to make sure I come back to life, in reference to tinkerbell from the Stage Production of Peter Pan. While this is funny to me, These strange posts and topics all started because they believe wikipedia (calling me fancruft; fictional character)

I honestly believe that some of the problem is that rather than correct my wiki page, or edit it to meet the criteria of everything wiki, it was just simply deleted. People asking for a speedy delete never thought about editing the page in the first place to make it worthwhile. If I'm not notable, that's fine. A lot of people don't have wiki pages who are much more deserving of one than I am. However, it's the fact that the fans made it cause they care about me, and wanted others to see how unusual I am, on a geeky level, and a professional one.

Is there anything you know of to help this page? Cause it's been up for years, and I would hate to lose something valuable to people who look me up, or fans who are trying to research me for their school projects. I look to you for some guidance. Thanks. 05:22, 31 October 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by WarkyTheChocobo (talk • contribs)

  • Hi Warky. Thanks for leaving the note. I'll recommend you first read up on Verfiability, one of the pillars on which Wikipedia articles are based. Once you've read that, please leave a note here and I'll guide you on what to do next. Thanks. Wifione Message 17:02, 31 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Halloween![edit]

 TheGeneralUser has given you some caramel and a candy apple! Caramel and candy-coated apples are fun Halloween treats, and promote WikiLove on Halloween. Hopefully these have made your Halloween (and the proceeding days) much sweeter. Happy Halloween!


If Trick-or-treaters come your way, add {{subst:Halloween apples}} to their talkpage with a spoooooky message!

Hi Wifione! Wishing you a very happy Halloween :-) TheGeneralUser (talk) 22:55, 31 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hi @TheGeneralUser. Thanks so much for your wishes :) Belated wishes from me too to you. Wifione Message 03:23, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 30 October 2013[edit]

Re:RfA?[edit]

Thanks for the offer. I haven't previously been particularly interested in going through the RfA, mainly because I'd rather focus my wiki-time on contributing content. Also, I've had periods of time where I've taken long breaks from Wikipedia, which I understand is usually a disinventive for support at RfA. And my first child is going to be born next month, which will only further take up time away from Wikipedia. :D But I appreciate the offer! — Hunter Kahn 06:01, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply @Kahn. If you were to change your mind, just drop a note. And thank you for your marvelously outstanding contributions to our project. Wifione Message 09:35, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello[edit]

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I have some questions for you, so I've sent you an email. Cheers. Alex discussion ★ 15:52, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 06 November 2013[edit]

Bizarre comment at AfD[edit]

Hi Wifione, I am not sure how to handle the recent additions to an AfD discussion here. I am reluctant to delete the comment but it doesn't seem in keeping with AfD. Maybe there is a collapsible box it could be put in? Thanks, C679 19:35, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Cloudz, I think the ip did not know how to structure comments in this particular AfD. Quite natural for someone who might intend good but is new around. I see that the edit has been reverted by another ip. My suggestion would be to leave a good explanation on the talk page of the ip to educate them on how to nominate articles for deletion. If you should wish me to do that, do tell; else just go ahead and guide the ip. Thanks. Wifione Message 09:48, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I have left a message, hopefully it does the job! Thanks, C679 10:40, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The Signpost: 13 November 2013[edit]

ANI notification[edit]

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidentsregarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. — Scott • talk 14:00, 18 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Phyllis Schlafly[edit]

See : http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3APhyllis_Schlafly&action=historysubmit&diff=582220864&oldid=582220758 RJensen has a sockpuppet removing discussion from the talk page now despite Edgar181 telling me to take it to the talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.196.232.6 (talk) 16:28, 18 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • I think that if you suspect a sockpuppet, you should report at SPI than make unsubstantiated accusations. Also, please only provide the links on the talk page and discuss the exact contents within these links rather than give your own very contentious opinions about the individual. Kindly read WP:BLP, WP:V, WP:NPOV to understand why we really need to be careful. Wifione Message 16:56, 18 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Phyllis Schlafly[edit]

Thanks for protecting the Phyllis Schlafly page. The IP person involved has now started to post much the same material on the Talk:Phyllis Schlafly, which needs the same protection, in my opinion. Rjensen (talk) 16:41, 18 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I think the Salon.com link should be discussed on the talk page. So I might not agree with a blanket deletion of the ip's comments from the talk page. But of course, any tendentious and contentious unreferenced statements should be removed immediately. Thanks. Wifione Message 16:56, 18 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

So you want to threaten me[edit]

Go ahead and threaten me to my face then. I come here in good faith trying to make improvements and you come in threatening me after your friends break all the rules and you let them off. You're corrupt and sad. — Precedingunsigned comment added by 98.196.232.6 (talk) 00:44, 19 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ip, it's not like that. Read BLP and you'll understand why in the cases of biographies of living persons, exceptional statements have to have a direct reference from a reliable source. I'm leaving a note on the talk page of the said article. Wifione Message 01:33, 19 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

IP vandalizing, need help[edit]

There is an IP 70.184.205.150 (talk · contribs) vandalizing my talk page and the article bubble gum and I need help. Could you block them? I've gone toWP:AIV but they keep vandalizing. Epicfailure 2 (talk) 15:58, 19 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mark's blocked the ip. I think you've also been blocked because you're attempting to edit from an alternative account when your main account has already been blocked. Kindly be careful. Wifione Message01:14, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Lake Valencia articles[edit]

I goofed up and I don't know how to fix my goof. There are three Lake Valencias in English Wikipedia. I moved a generically named Lake Valencia toLake Valencia (Venezuela) and tried to fix all the redirects, etc. I then recreated Lake Valencia as a disambiguation page, which found I did not know how to do (there seems to be more to this operation than meets the eye). I will fix it if you can show me where to go for help. Sorry about the mess. I don't think I ever ran into anything quite like this, as I usually can fix these things on my own. Bill Pollard (talk) 07:51, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Someone else took this issue and I think everything is fixed. The number of links that were involved turned out to be numerous and I am not sure exactly how I could have found them all. Thanks anyway. Bill Pollard (talk) 10:02, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oh thankfully. Anyway, great to see you around as always. Do tell me if there's any other assistance you might need. Next time, email me if it's urgent. Best. Wifione Message 14:54, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your message[edit]

Hi. I'm just asking because 3 weeks ago you said you would send me a message tomorrow. I understand if you are busy with Wiki work/admin job/real life, so you don't have to send me that message. Thanks for your time anyway. Regards Alex discussion ★ 16:53, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry I couldn't get back to you on this. Let me see what I can do. Kind regards. WifioneMessage 14:53, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey. I've sent you a reply. Check your email. Alex discussion ★ 17:21, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Autopatrolled permission[edit]

Thanks so much, this made my day! :]
Jatlas (talk) 18:42, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 20 November 2013[edit]

Nomination of International Institute of Psychosomatic Medicine for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article International Institute of Psychosomatic Medicine is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/International Institute of Psychosomatic Medicine until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. DGG ( talk ) 04:33, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I thought you should know[edit]

Wikipediocracy has published an article about you: http://wikipediocracy.com/2013/12/02/indian-fakers-teach-wiki-pr/ There is also a thread on Jimbo Wales' talk page about it. Regards, -- Ross Hill • Talk • Need Help? • 20:31, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note Ross. Wifione Message 03:00, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ "NordicFantasy review: Thale".
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