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Doug Weller talk 13:53, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have any official relationship with the Torch network (ie more than being a member/supporter)[edit]

We need to know if WP:PAID or WP:COI applies to you in any way. Doug Weller talk 13:54, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

June 2020[edit]

Information icon Please do not add or change content, as you did at Anti-Racist Action, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Basically, sources must discuss the subject of the article, and some of your sources seem to be discussing antifa in general. Doug Weller talk 13:55, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't necessary to add the category "Scottish slave owners" to someone who became a slave owner after moving to the United States. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 15:33, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

June 2020[edit]

Warning icon Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at Francis Baring, 3rd Baron Ashburton, you may be blocked from editing. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:17, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Charles Dillon, 14th Viscount Dillon[edit]

Dear Torchist. Thank you very much for your recent contribution to the article Charles Dillon, 14th Viscount Dillon. Like you I have I have contributed to the article in question. I am trying to understand what you mean and I find it a bit confusing. I have read some of the supporting evidence that you cite and I understand that the 14th Viscount received a part of a compensation as a trustee for Dominick Trant who owned 128 slaves on a plantation in Montserrat. But does this involve him in the slave trade? You say "he was awarded a payment as a slave trader"; is this really supported by the evidence? I would have said he held the money in trust for the claimant but did not benefit from it. Whether he sympathised with the claimant seems not established. Perhaps I am missing something here, but could you perhaps clarify? There are other members of the Dillon family who seem to have been involved in slavery. Arthur Dillon (1750–1794) married as his 2nd wife Laure de Girardin de Montgérald, comtesse de la Touche, who seems to have been a slave owner in Martinique. There is still a distillery Dillon in Martinique. With many thanks again for your much appreciated and interesting contribution, Johannes Schade (talk) 19:40, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Slavery stuff[edit]

Hi,

Noticed you made edits such as Special:Diff/962197244 on various articles. This paragraph doesn't appear to be properly cited. The citation you've given does not contain this information from what I can see. I've let the reverts of your contribution stand. You may wish to gather additional citations to support your paragraph. ProcrasinatingReader (talk) 18:19, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia, as you did with this edit to Slavery Abolition Act 1833. ProcrasinatingReader (talk) 18:22, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you using far right and anti-semitic websites as sources?[edit]

freedomsite.org and the American Freedom Party's website for instance. Please read WP:Verify and WP:RS. Doug Weller talk 13:11, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reading all the messages above, it appears that you don't intend to communicate with other editors[edit]

That's not good enough. Wikipedia is a collaborative project and will not work if editors won't discuss their edits. Your failure to respond to my question about your relationship to Torch is also troubling and suggests that you might be violating our legal Terms of Use. So, I'm asking you to respond to some of the comments above and to my question. Otherwise I'm not convinced that you shouldn't be blocked. Doug Weller talk 13:18, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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July 2020[edit]

Please stop your disruptive editing.

If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Anti-Racist Action, you may be blocked from editing. You need to use the talk page and you need to respond on your talk page, including my question about any official relationship with the Torch network. Failure to do this could lead to a block. Doug Weller talk 12:12, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop attacking other editors, as you did on Anti-Racist Action. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. your edit summary called an editor's edit vandalism, despite the fact it was the result of a talk page discussion. Doug Weller talk 12:14, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Please address the questions concerning COI. I have blocked you for a brief term, but if you resume edit-warring after it is over I will block your access to the article so that you can participate on the talkpage as requested. Acroterion (talk) 15:37, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
One more time - please address questions concerning COI. You're not precluded from editing, but you must declare any affiliations plainly and work within the confines of the conflict of interest policy. Acroterion (talk) 13:50, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Acroterion: they clearly aren't interested in responding continue to reinstate their version. It's hard to see this editor as editing in good faith. Doug Weller talk 12:33, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Similar problems at Rose City Antifa where they are edit warring and used an edit summary to call an edit by User:Aquillion "sneaky", a personal attack. Doug Weller talk 12:36, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

August 2020[edit]

Please stop attacking other editors, as you did on Rose City Antifa. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Doug Weller talk 12:37, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion[edit]

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September 2020[edit]

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Hello, can you explain this?? Torchist (talk)
You've been asked several times if you have a conflict of interest and have not responded. You are certainly behaving as if you have a conflict of interest. Since you're making numerous edits that you shouldn't be doing under those circumstances, and since you're not responding, you're blocked for disruptive editing. You may be permanently blocked if you do not respond constructively or if you keep ignoring other editors. Acroterion (talk) 02:37, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
This is incorrect. I have explictly confirmed several times that I do not have a conflict of interest and explicitly put a notification at the top of this talkpage to that end to clarify. There is no Wikipedia policy that says you cannot have a username and write about a subject. If somebody has a username referencing a song by The Rolling Stones and created and edited articles in that subject area, there would not be a COI either. Can you cite any diffs whatsoever which suggest a "conflict of interest" or "disruptive editing"? I request to be unblocked. Torchist (talk)
If you're going to just answer with repetitions of personal attacks you've made against other editors, you're a lot closer to a permanent block now. Acroterion (talk) 02:43, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
What I am referencing from the diffs is this statement by myself on the COI thread: "I have no direct affiliation with this organisation or its predecessor ARA, my interest in developing the topic is academic, so there is no "conflict of interest"." and this in bold font on the top of my talkpage "Disclaimer: despite my Wiki-name I am not directly affiliated to the Torch Network". I have addressed this question specifically already. Can I see diffs for "distruptive editing" please? Torchist (talk) 02:46, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I see. However, it's not really visible up there above the table of contents - you should put that on your userpage where people can actually find it. You are making a considerable number of undiscussed changes without consensus that still look like COI, and you've failed to engage other editors, while repeating personal attacks. You'll need to address your editing behavior and interactions with other editors before you'll be unblocked. I see no talkpage discussions of any kind that you've participated in. That's not optional when other editors dispute your edits - it's patently disruptive. Acroterion (talk) 02:55, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I thought people would see it there as its right at the top. I have engaged with Mr. Weller extensively on the talk of the subject area in question for quite some time. Torchist (talk) 02:58, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You've made 12 of your 666 edits to article talkpages, none, as far as I see, since July. There is an open discussion at COIN, where several editors have expressed concern about your edits, beyond simply qurestioning tyour affiliation, which it looks like you did not address until three days ago. This edit summary [1] isn't helping - Doug's not the only editor to question your edits. Acroterion (talk) 03:19, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You may be unblocked if you constructively explain how you will appropriately engage other editors and find consensus, without resorting to name-calling and aspersions. A commitment to prior discussion on talkpages is essential, and you really need to stay away from all the redirects to Torch Network unless you can provide explicit sourcing for those changes. Acroterion (talk) 03:24, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I've a thick skin, but claiming that I didn't notify you about the COIN discussion is inexplicable - as is suggesting it's only me that has been unhappy with your edits. Doug Weller talk 16:15, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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October 2020[edit]

Stop icon This is your only warning; if you make personal attacks on others again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Sundayclose (talk) 00:25, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sundayclose, I don't think it was civil or polite what you wrote to Torchist on this talk page, either. Elizium23 (talk) 02:19, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Elizium23: Thanks for that comment. I certainly respect your opinion and will take it under advisement. I must say, however, if you've looked at Torchist's comments in edit summaries and here I hope you agree that those comments are less than civil. I'm not offering that as an excuse, just an observation. Sundayclose (talk) 03:13, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Your edit at Sugarcane[edit]

Hi @Torchist, i've reverted your edit to Sugarcane for the following reason: Unexplained restoral of removed content. Removal diff: [2] Nobody (talk) 07:03, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Torchist I saw you reverted my edit with an explanation. For the future, please Always use an edit summary. Nobody (talk) 10:57, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Nobody, thanks for your message. I mentioned a reason in the edit summary and have started a section on the talkpage of the article Sugarcane if you care to join me there. Torchist (talk) 11:01, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've watchlisted the article and will join the discussion if necessary. Thx for the reply. Nobody (talk) 11:08, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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