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AN/ANI

Okay, I've had to oversight the revisions you rev-del'ed earlier today. I've also removed your sections on AN and ANI because we do not discuss things such as this on the noticeboards (see the big red boxes). To answer your general questions, you must revdel all revisions with the offending content, to do otherwise is less than worthless, as the revdel draws even more attention than just letting it lie where it was. Use the same reasons for the revdel of the revisions that contained the offending content as you do for the revision that added it. Second, if there is general doubt about the content and where the revdel/oversight line lies, please drop a note to the oversight team, not asking questions on AN or ANI. Courcelles 15:35, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know: I appreciate your help on this. -- The Anome (talk) 15:37, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

09:05, 22 September 2014 (UTC)


Not a great block

Anome, you blocked Ilikebigbutts@icannotlie for a username violation. The consensus on the UAA page was there was no issue with his user name. The only individual who had one (and screamed loud as hell about it ) was Hammersoft. This user has yet to edit, and has a handle that matches the lyrics of "Baby got back". They recieved no communication about that name, nor were they given the chance to change it first. I'd say that block isn't right. (In case your'e wondering, it's not me, and I don't know who it is either ). Would you consider reconsidering,or allowing them to change their name ? KoshVorlon Angeli i demoni kruzhyli nado mnoj 16:59, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

  • Kosh, WP:UAA asks us to either report the username or discuss the issue with the user. I chose the former, as I find the name deeply objectionable. I did nothing wrong. I am not required, and even WP:UAA asks us not to, discuss the username with the user if it is seriously objectionable. Describing my debate regarding the user name as "scream[ing] loud as hell" is nothing short of a personal attack, and is compounded by the thread you posted on my talk page. I recommend you drop it; if the person wants to continue editing under that name they can request an unblock, directions for which are already on their talk page. --Hammersoft (talk) 17:47, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
  • The block is a soft block, and doesn't prevent them from creating another account with a different name -- indeed, the block message contains an invitation to create another account, or to ask for their existing account to be renamed. The name is a blatant example of sexual objectification; if we allow names like this, we are implicitly creating an environment some people will find unfriendly, and it's not worth the hassle for other editors just to give one editor their way on choice of username. Usernames on Wikipedia are meant primarily to be identifiers, not a forum for unlimited personal self-expression, and just because something is a song lyric doesn't give it a free pass. -- The Anome (talk) 22:37, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Wrong coordinates

THe coordinates are linked to the wrong webiste and location. How do I fix this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mwa101 (talkcontribs) 01:03, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi -- can you be a bit more specific, please? Can you tell me which article in particular has this problem? -- The Anome (talk) 12:54, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

09:44, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Ebola Graphs

Hi The Anome,

I was very happy to find your graphs regarding Ebola growth for countries on linear and logarithmic scale. I soon entered the data in to a spreadsheet to have ad diagram with more, and more recent data available. The graph I made for the rates are therefore based on yours, because I find you presentation good, and also to prevent confusion.

Your last update is from September 14th. Do you plan to update the graphs, or shall I do this? I can easily upload graph with more recent data. Either in a new file, or by updating yours. What do you think about this?

As now the first patient is reported in the US, it will probably be required to add the US also. In the moment there are heavy discussions in the talk page, because US and Senegal are similar. Either they remove both countries, or add the US. I would present in the graphs only countries that are presented in the table below. Due to layout issues I would add the US probably only in the logarithmic rate graph. I would then change colouring, black for Total/World, dark blue for US. It would be good, if we keep the colours in the graph consistent. What do you think?

Kind Regards, Malanoqa --Malanoqa (talk) 06:14, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi Malanoqa, all of this sounds good to me. Your presentation of the data is a significant improvement on mine, and I would be most pleased if you could take over this work. Kind regards, -- The Anome (talk) 11:22, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi The Anome, so I keep the filename on Wikimedia, and update it with new more actual graphs? In that case all links on wikipedia articles would automatically point to the new versions. OK?
Kind regards, --Malanoqa (talk) 12:11, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi The Anome, I created a new file, due to legal rights, We will update the links in the referring articles manually. This is also more transparent. With kind regards --Malanoqa (talk) 21:38, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Anomebot2 indecisive?

In this edit, Anomebot2 added a {{coord missing}} template with scope “United States”. Less than an hour later, the bot updated the scope of its own template (here) to the state of Georgia. Five years passed, during which Anomebot2 was content to leave the article alone. But when I updated that template manually to focus it on the city of Atlanta (here), Anomebot2 changed its mind and deleted the template outright (here).

So at one point, the bot decided that an article needed coordinates which had not been provided, or even suggested, by any editor; but then at a later point, the bot decided to delete a more specific coordinate region which had been provided by an editor. Does this seem inconsistent?

Moreover, I cannot avoid the impression that Anomebot2 would have left the article alone had I not upgraded that template. I've invested some time in sorting a number of US {{coord missing}} articles into more specific geographic regions, and it is discouraging to think that a bot may delete any or all of that work for no stated reason.

Is there a pattern to this activity that isn't obvious, something that might make the Anomebot2 behavior more understandable, and hopefully more predictable?

 Unician   09:48, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

I didn't spot them at first sight, either, and was initially as surprised as you, but after further inspection I can see that the bot removed the {{coord missing}} tag because the article now specifies several several coordinates within it: you can find them in the map within the infobox. -- The Anome (talk) 13:07, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
Ah, thank you, that explains the bot's actions. As for that particular article, it's an unusual case because the subject is a narrow ring of trails around a city, punctuated by a few parks; the coordinates for the individual parks are included, but the entire project might be better described using an additional single large region centered on the city. But since the city is named and linked, and its article does include coordinates and scale of a region, I think I'll leave the article as the bot left it.  Unician   02:30, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
This sort of article is ideal for either attached KML, or cross-referencing with an OpenStreetMap feature: WP:Wikiproject Roads have worked out a number of good ways to handle this sort of extended feature. -- The Anome (talk) 22:00, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

06:10, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Patrick Sawyer

The difference between Sawyer and any other potentially scared EVD patient was that he was asked on several occasions, if he had ever been in contact with anyone infected but he continued denying all despite being on quarantine in Liberia. He wanted to even depart the hospital for Calabar, thank God for the heroics of Doctor Ameyo Adadevoh who risked her life to keep him in the medical facility. I understand that anyone will probably be having a cold feet in such situation, but no right thinking person should allow his/her death to be the cause of thousands of others. If I have EVD, I rather die alone (and go to Heaven) than take a risk that will certainly allow many other people die with me. I did not want to digress at the Afd that was why I did not leave my comment there.Darreg (talk) 21:56, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

08:54, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Hey

I'm just dropping by for feedback on the addiction, sexual addiction, drug addiction, etc articles. Is the distinction with what I was talking about on my talkpage earlier clear now? Seppi333 (Insert  | Maintained) 20:54, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi there -- sorry not to have got back to you earlier: I will take a look at this tomorrow. -- The Anome (talk) 23:57, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

13:48, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

05:21, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for not having sources

Sorry for my reccent on ebola that did not have any sources, but I fixed it now and it has the proper citations. I uploaded it to wikipedia again with the corrections. Thanks for helping me edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.98.31.48 (talk) 21:22, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

17:28, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Links in list

Thanks a lot for editing List of railway_stations in Pakistan#All stations in Pakistan, with codes (alphabetically). Yes, Now it is much better than before. I want some more guidance from you. I want insert categories in all pages of this list, i mean i want insert category of District and Provices on each page. Is there any way to insert this without editing page. Is there any user rights or permissions about inserting categories quickly. Second, can you please tell me about NavBox format in which i need three columns. First Column for Province, Second for District and Third for name of railway stations. I want to change NavBox template. Thanks Ameen Akbar (talk) 17:52, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi, and thanks for all your great work on those articles. One way you might be able to generate articles quickly, including the addition of categories, might be to use the template substition mechanim to make an entire article from subst-ing a single short template. More details on this can be found at Wikipedia:Substitution. The other would be to use a bot to make the edits: see Wikipedia:Bots. Regarding the addition of extra fields for the {{infobox station}} template, I suggest you get in touch with the Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains project, who I believe maintain the template. -- The Anome (talk) 18:39, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

15:00, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

18:28, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Bégin Hospital

There's already a page for this hospital, here. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%B4pital_d%27instruction_des_arm%C3%A9es_B%C3%A9gin

Is there any easy way to make a wikilink to wikipage in French?

Robertpedley (talk) 13:07, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi: if you look at the "Languages" field in the left sidebar of the Bégin Military Teaching Hospital article, and click on the word "Français", you'll find the French article is already linked from there, and vice versa. (The links are done using Wikidata: if you click on the "edit links" field in the interlanguage links, it will take you there) -- The Anome (talk) 13:12, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
OK, got it; but it's very long winded. My Chrome browser will automatically translate French text, isn't there a way to give a direct wikilink to a page on fr.wikipedia.org? The only way I can find is e.g.
(talk page stalker) @Robertpedley: That link may be simplified to [[:fr:Hôpital d'instruction des armées Bégin]] - notice that this starts with a colon, then the language code, then another colon, after which the full page name is given. This produces fr:Hôpital d'instruction des armées Bégin; the first colon isn't displayed, but its presence is necessary. You can hide the language code and second colon as well by using [[:fr:Hôpital d'instruction des armées Bégin|Hôpital d'instruction des armées Bégin]] which produces Hôpital d'instruction des armées Bégin. There is more on this at H:ILL. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:55, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
@Redrose64: Brilliant, thanks! I have no idea when I will use it, but I'm sure it will be useful. Robertpedley (talk) 19:45, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

19:31, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Phone number username

Thanks. I'd figured that's what it was; it just seemed a little too long even assuming a country code was at the beginning. Good job following up—it was very late and I knew I wouldn't be able to manage it. Daniel Case (talk) 20:48, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

17:11, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diligence
thank you mr bot Saadkhan12345 (talk) 04:37, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Autonomous spaceport drone ship

Hi there. Your bot recently added a missing coordinates template to the Autonomous spaceport drone ship. I'm not an expert on how that template is used, but it begs the question: "Is such a template really appropriate for ships?" Ships obviously move locations all the time, so it is not clear how geodata could be current, unless there were some sort of GPS beacon on the ship, with that data publically accessible, and a bot regularly updating wiki-articles for where the ship was most recently.

Net, if it turns out to be not applicable for ships, you should update your bot to watch for that indicator; as well as go back and fix this article manually. Cheers. N2e (talk) 16:05, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi -- thanks for spotting this. The article was tagged because it was categorized as a spaceport. Ships are not inherently un-geocodeable (eg. sunken ships and permanently moored ships), so the bot didn't use that as a sign for the article not to be geocodeable. I'll go and fix the article by hand, but unless this particular coincidence happens again, I don't think the bot itself currently needs fixing. -- The Anome (talk) 18:29, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for looking into this! N2e (talk) 05:05, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

16:44, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Seasonal Greets!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2015!!!

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16:52, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

16:52, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Ebola in the UK post

Ok, I agree will remember from now on, what to do. D Eaketts (talk) 20:02, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! No harm done, and now you know. Thanks for your edits! -- The Anome (talk) 20:04, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy New Year The Anome!

16:47, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

FYI

You placed a blocking template on a user's talk page. However, you forgot to block the user!--5 albert square (talk) 22:46, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Ouch! Thank you for finding -- and fixing -- that! -- The Anome (talk) 14:18, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
No worries. The user got reported by DQB to UAA which is how I came across it. I thought I was seeing things when I blocked them then found a blocking template already on the talk page :)--5 albert square (talk) 14:40, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

18:13, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

TfD discussion grouping

Hi Anome, the TfD bot isn't removing dec 17 and dec 19 from the TfD list, probably because of the grouping I did there. What is the proper way to group discussions or close grouped discussions so that the bot will still pick them up? I could archive them manually, but I'd rather just know the right way to do this. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 13:31, 21 January 2015 (UTC) Wrong Anome. Oops.

16:08, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Hypersexuality ref

Hey, thanx, Anome! I could see that it was fu cked up, but I didn't know how to fix it. VerdanaBøld 23:41, 28 January 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Verdana Bold (talkcontribs)

Regarding the article Sexual desire

Hello, i was reading the article Sexual desire of which you are a contributor,Sir..Under the para PHYSICAL FACTORS AFFECTING SEXUAL DESIRE i was expecting the find something about the 'time that has passed from the previous ejaculation in men'(being the reason that during the short term abstinence in sexually active men, they feel a high urge to indulge in sexual activities) affects their sexual desire..but there is no mention of the specific thing in the article..i have been anxious about this as i have to continue my research project on libido.. Sir, can you please help me find out the reason for why could i not find this fact here..many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ed beerman (talkcontribs) 08:28, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

It's a very good question, but one I'm not qualified to answer. Have you considered asking on the Wikipedia:Reference desk/Science? The editors there may be able to help you better than I can. -- The Anome (talk) 10:57, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
That time is called a Refractory period (sex).
VerdanaBøld 23:49, 28 January 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Verdana Bold (talkcontribs)

File:Henry flipper.jpg listed for deletion

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16:31, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

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16:27, 9 February 2015 (UTC)


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17:57, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Looking into the future on that impressive list of redlinks!

The Founding Foremothers Award
Hello, The Anome, I've added a copy-and-paste citation to your redlinks page in preparation for the DC Meetup at Howard University. It's clear you deserve an award for all the forward-looking work you've done here! Do stop by a social meetup sometime, and let us thank you in person. --Djembayz (talk) 19:30, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

ANI

Hello. Your recent revdel didn't have the effect that I assume you intended. Since there were two edits after yours, the edit was still visible, but I have taken care of those for you. Cheers ​—DoRD (talk)​ 15:44, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Many thanks -- I'd completely missed that. -- The Anome (talk) 15:46, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Block an Account

Never Mind, Problem dealth with. RainingPain17 (talk) 14:11, 21 February 2015 (UTC)RainingPain17

16:29, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Montenegro

Hi, I've been created some stubs, Category:Montenegro articles missing geocoordinate data needs addressing :-) I've only done two municipalities too! Also somebody needs to add the interlinks to the other wikis like Slovene and French wikis.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:36, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

16:41, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

15:19, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

hi

The Anome you might remember me from Ebola/west Africa article, I have a GA nomination for Dyslexia and have finished , however it would be good if someone looked at it,(remember to hit start review) I would appreciate any feedback--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 23:05, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Greenland

Most of my comments about The Anomebot2 seem to have been nitpicking (though I appreciate the bot immensely; most of the work I do here is a direct result of its existence), so here's another nit. Over the years, I've noticed that it tends to add {{coord missing|Denmark}} to articles with Greenland categories, but since we have Category:Greenland articles missing geocoordinate data, populated by {{coord missing|Greenland}}, wouldn't it be better for the bot to add the latter template directly? Deor (talk) 12:27, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

You're quite right. I'll address it in the next revision of the bot's code: given the special status of Greenland (as both a top-level country and a part of a top-level country), I'll have to special-case it in the analysis code. -- The Anome (talk) 17:59, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

15:16, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for helping.

Thanks for helping on the article "0.999...". I see that you undid my edit, but there was a reason for those tags. The statement "accepted by mathematicians" is a weasel statement. Who accepted 0.999... = 1? It does not include an example when it should. "general mathematical education", where? Algebra 1, 2, 3? it does not specify. "some students" who? in which grade level? "Such skepticism is common enough that the difficulty of convincing them of the validity of this identity has been the subject of numerous studies in mathematics education." Too many "of"s in that sentence. "Common enough"? says who? That statement alone needs a citation. I see that you were trying to help also. Can we come to a compromise that we can both agree on? Thanks! The f18hornet (talk) 18:45, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

To take just the first point, "accepted by mathematicians" is, I believe, unquestionable within the framework of conventional mathematics: not only have renowned mathematicians -- and they don't get much more renowned than Euler and Cantor -- publicly stated that the statement 0.999... = 1 is valid within the conventional understanding of the real numbers, it's now known to be provable from the ZFC + logic axioms that underpin that formalism. Here you go. Now, there are other mathematical formalisms that will give different results, but they are highly non-standard, and they tend to break simple arithmetic, or do other weird things -- and all this is dealt with in the article.
At this point, I believe this has reached the same level as, say, heliocentrism in astronomy: if anyone wants to say that any astronomers believe that Sun goes round the Earth rather than vice versa, the burden of proof is on the person making the assertion, and it's up to them to provide their own cites to prove their point.
To take the second point, "general mathematical education" should mean "all of it." If you're teaching young children that 1/3 = 0.333... [by long division], you should also be teaching them that 3 × 1/3 = 0.999... = 1. At that early stage, it's fine to tell them that that's just how it is: but when you reach the high-school level, you ought to be introducing the idea of limits, and providing at least a semi-rigorous demonstration of the fact. Undergraduates in numerate fields should be able to prove it themselves from first principles with at least moderate levels of rigor by the end of their first year. At least that was how it was in my experience of being taught mathematics. Your experience may differ. -- The Anome (talk) 19:05, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Curiously, this very topic (does 0.9999... = 1) was being discussed by ClemRutter (talk · contribs), Edwardx (talk · contribs) and myself two weeks ago, over pints of "Lambeth Walk" porter (from By The Horns brewery). --Redrose64 (talk) 21:36, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
As promised, there is now an article, By The Horns, complete with images. Edwardx (talk) 13:52, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

15:10, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Rm FP please

Here. ResMar 03:23, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Already done. ResMar 04:11, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Fritchley Tunnel

Coffee // have a cup // beans // 12:01, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

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FYI

See: [225]
The same IP-user (I have a strong suspicion as to his sockpuppet identity) also created your User page on PL with similar language, which I {delete}-ed and it has already been removed. W\|/haledad (Talk to me) 22:31, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

15:19, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

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More griping

OK, here's the problem with Wikidata. A while back, someone on Turkish Wikipedia created a bunch of articles about villages in in the Ardahan district of Ardahan Province. That editor, however, included exactly the same coordinates in each article—probably because he copied the infobox from article to article without making the necessary changes. These coordinates then got imported, without correction, to Wikidata, and now your bot is adding them to en.wp articles. (The bot was previously using GNIS data rather than Wikidata to geotag these village articles, which, while not precise, at least didn't give them all the same damn coordinates.) Now I, or other editors, have to go through Category:Ardahan District, correcting the coordinates, and go to Wikidata to correct them there in order to forestall the further spread of the incorrect coordinates. (They've apparently already been imported to the Vietnamese Wikipedia, so someone else will have to correct them there.) One person's inattention on one Wikipedia is spreading misinformation far and wide, thanks to the power of Wikidata. Not your fault, I know, but I need to vent my frustration somewhere, and I don't have a dog to kick. I hope that the Turkish editor didn't do this sort of business more extensively than I've yet discovered, but I suspect that this is unlikely to be an isolated incident of inaccuracy in Wikidata's information. Deor (talk) 23:41, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry to hear this: that's unbelievably frustrating. I'll see if I can get the bot to back these off now on enwiki, and I hope that should help a bit. -- The Anome (talk) 23:52, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
OK, I'm removing all 25 cases of 41.1284 N 42.8329 E coordinates now. I will add {{coord missing}} tags again once they're all done. -- The Anome (talk) 00:02, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 Done -- see Special:Contributions/The_Anomebot2. I only removed those coordinated that exactly matched 41.1284 N 42.8329 E: please let me know if there are others, and I can take them out, too. Unfortunately, I can't help at wikidata, because I don't have bot rights there. -- The Anome (talk) 00:19, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for that. I've gone through the articles in which your bot removed the coordinates, adding the correct coordinates. I see that you've also removed the duplicated coordinates on Wikidata. Hopefully, no one will bother to reimport them there. Deor (talk) 12:18, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Strike that last sentence. I see, from your post on my talk page that you've also been to tr.wp. Deor (talk) 12:37, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

VisualEditor News #2—2015

Did you know?

With Citoid in VisualEditor, you click the 'book with bookmark' icon and paste in the URL for a reliable source:


Screenshot of Citoid's first dialog


Citoid looks up the source for you and returns the citation results. Click the green "Insert" button to accept its results and add them to the article:


Screenshot of Citoid's initial results


After inserting the citation, you can change it. Select the reference, and click the "Edit" button in the context menu to make changes.


The user guide has more information about how to use VisualEditor.

Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on VisualEditor's performance, the Citoid reference service, and support for languages with complex input requirements. Status reports are posted on Mediawiki.org. The worklist for April through June is available in Phabricator.

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Recent improvements

VisualEditor is now substantially faster. In many cases, opening the page in VisualEditor is now faster than opening it in the wikitext editor. The new system has improved the code speed by 37% and network speed by almost 40%.

The Editing team is slowly adding auto-fill features for citations. This is currently available only at the French, Italian, and English Wikipedias. The Citoid service takes a URL or DOI for a reliable source, and returns a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. After creating it, you will be able to change or add information to the citation, in the same way that you edit any other pre-existing citation in VisualEditor. Support for ISBNs, PMIDs, and other identifiers is planned. Later, editors will be able to improve precision and reduce the need for manual corrections by contributing to the Citoid service's definitions for each website.

Citoid requires good TemplateData for your citation templates. If you would like to request this feature for your wiki, please post a request in the Citoid project on Phabricator. Include links to the TemplateData for the most important citation templates on your wiki.

The special character inserter has been improved, based upon feedback from active users. After this, VisualEditor was made available to all users of Wikipedias on the Phase 5 list on 30 March. This affected 53 mid-size and smaller Wikipedias, including AfrikaansAzerbaijaniBretonKyrgyzMacedonianMongolianTatar, and Welsh.

Work continues to support languages with complex requirements, such as Korean and Japanese. These languages use input method editors ("IMEs”). Recent improvements to cursoring, backspace, and delete behavior will simplify typing in VisualEditor for these users.

The design for the image selection process is now using a "masonry fit" model. Images in the search results are displayed at the same height but at variable widths, similar to bricks of different sizes in a masonry wall, or the "packed" mode in image galleries. This style helps you find the right image by making it easier to see more details in images.

You can now drag and drop categories to re-arrange their order of appearance ​on the page.

The pop-up window that appears when you click on a reference, image, link, or other element, is called the "context menu". It now displays additional useful information, such as the destination of the link or the image's filename. The team has also added an explicit "Edit" button in the context menu, which helps new editors open the tool to change the item.

Invisible templates are marked by a puzzle piece icon so they can be interacted with. Users also will be able to see and edit HTML anchors now in section headings.

Users of the TemplateData GUI editor can now set a string as an optional text for the 'deprecated' property in addition to boolean value, which lets you tell users of the template what they should do instead (T90734).

Looking ahead

The special character inserter in VisualEditor will soon use the same special character list as the wikitext editor. Admins at each wiki will also have the option of creating a custom section for frequently used characters at the top of the list. Instructions for customizing the list will be posted at mediawiki.org.

The team is discussing a test of VisualEditor with new users, to see whether they have met their goals of making VisualEditor suitable for those editors. The timing is unknown, but might be relatively soon.

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-Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk), 17:50, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

15:42, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

16:41, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Tea Bag

Hi The Anome! I moved Tea bag (sexual act) back per WP:TITLEFORMAT, specifically this section: Nouns and noun phrases are normally preferred over titles using other parts of speech; such a title can be the subject of the first sentence. One major exception is for titles that are quotations or titles of works: A rolling stone gathers no moss, or Try to Remember. Adjective and verb forms (e.g. democratic, integrate) should redirect to articles titled with the corresponding noun (Democracy, Integration), although sometimes they are disambiguation pages, as at Organic. Sometimes the noun corresponding to a verb is the gerund (-ing form), as in Swimming.

Just wanted to let you know as I know it was a good faith move. If I'm missed something or misinterpreted the policy, let me know. Cheers! EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 00:44, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Well. you're right about the text of the policy you quote above, but wrong about its application. Please read the last sentence of the quoted text. A gerund is the "nouned" form of a verb, and this is precisely a case of the correct use of a gerund, such as in "swimming", in a title, that is recommended by the policy above. Would you call the swimming article "swim", or the walking article "walk"? Or damp proofing, or cycling to "damp proof" or "cycle"? And so on and so forth, ad absurdam.
In general, knocking the word "to" off an English-language infinitive does not make a noun. The infinitive for Pegging (sexual practice) is "to peg", but we don't have an article for "Peg (sexual practice)". Similarly for "to tea bag".
Accordingly, I've moved the article back to Teabagging, per WP:TITLEFORMAT. -- The Anome (talk)
I see what you mean. Okay. Thanks! EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 17:15, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

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