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Happy New Year!

A wish for the new year

A quote from Gargantua and Pantagruel by Rabelais; it is taken from the manuscript of Jules Massenet's opera Panurge, in the composer's own hand. It is my greeting of choice for the new year, because it encourages us to live joyfully, and try not to take life too seriously...while quaffing whatever beverage we choose, naturally. This has been a challenging year, to say the least; I hope that 2021 may bring a fresh start, and better days ahead. May the new year bring you joy and peace...and many days of fruitful editing.

--Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 22:57, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Untitled Aladdin prequel

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 01:17, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Frosty the Snowman

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:39, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Some things to update in species articles

Hi! There are a few common things that would be helpful to update in your process when creating articles about species:

stubs should be placed at the bottom of the article with two blank lines between it and the rest of the content
remember to remove the colon from the category links when you move them out of draft space - it should be [[Category:Schefflera|stolleana]] rather than [[:Category:Schefflera|stolleana]]
italicize the species/genus names in references
no need to link to major country names (see Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking#What generally should not be linked)
you mention that a lot of plants are "perennial plants", but the references you listed in most cases haven't included that information. Some of them weren't actually perennial plants, so it might be better to default to "flowering plant" (when applicable)
WikiProjects Plants recommends avoiding use of "a herbaceous" or "an herbaceous" due to back-and-forth conflicts; there are some recommendations here: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Plants#"A" or "an" with "herb..."
in the speciesbox, use either taxon= OR genus= and species=, not both
no need to ref bomb, like linking to herbarium specimens as references for the family the species is in, or to sources that mention the species only in passing. Additional references should add something meaningful to the article. For these plant species stubs you're making, it's probably fine to just use Plants of the World Online as your only source, since from the ones I've looked through, it looks like that's where you're getting the article content from
on the Talk page, it's super helpful if you can add the full WikiProject Plants assessment, which for these stubs would, in almost all cases, be: {{WikiProject Plants|class=stub|importance=low|needs-image=yes}}

thanks! —Hyperik ⌜talk⌟ 21:02, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Can you look into implementing some of these updates before publishing so many more articles? I agree with Abductive that it'd be great to just edit in main article space rather than draft space, to avoid issues like this one and this one. —Hyperik ⌜talk⌟ 21:30, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Starzoner, some of these same issues are popping up over and over in your new species articles. Please take a look at the information above and thanks for some of the changes you've already implemented. —Hyperik ⌜talk⌟ 21:10, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Could you remove the existing note about them being perennial plants in the Vernonia articles you published? That info isn't supported by the reference you provided. Thank you! —Hyperik ⌜talk⌟ 21:11, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Hyperik, anything else I should work on? Starzoner (talk) 19:15, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Super! Thanks for those updates. There are still some of the Vernonia articles mentioning perennial. Sometimes POWO has that info but often it doesn't. List to check at List of Vernonia species. I also noticed some of the articles about Trigonopterus species have the same ref posted twice (the Riedel et al. 2019 one), e.g. at Trigonopterus artemis, though that was due to another editor. I started fixing a few of them, but there are a bunch remaining. —Hyperik ⌜talk⌟ 20:00, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

The life cycles of Vernonia species in the articles you created are still largely unsourced. Could you take a look at the ones you added? Are there other taxa where you noted "perennial"? —Hyperik ⌜talk⌟ 19:36, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

I'll go check. Starzoner (talk) 19:52, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! I haven't seen any fixes yet, so let me know if you have any questions. —Hyperik ⌜talk⌟ 19:57, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Untitled Star Wars Anthology film

Hi Starzoner, I see you created and have been updating Draft:Untitled Star Wars Anthology film. Much of the detail in this draft concerns the planned Boba Fett and Obi-Wan Kenobi films that have since been cancelled, and those details are now at The Book of Boba Fett and Draft:Obi-Wan Kenobi (TV series), respectively. We shouldn't be keeping a draft that will not be moved to the mainspace, so I think this one should be deleted or redirected. I wanted to check to see if you thought there was a future for this or if you just wanted to move the details in this draft into your userspace? - adamstom97 (talk) 01:43, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Thank you for the Wikipedia woodcarving, I myself prefer the longer-lasting Wikipedia decorated pottery that has survived from ancient history. Have a great year!--Pharos (talk) 19:40, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

New Mass Effect game

I deleted the article since it was a copy of Mass Effect: Andromeda#Future with one extra line. When more information comes out feel free to recreate, but right now I believe it's too WP:Crystal for a separate article. --Michael Greiner 00:51, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Subtaxa

Typically subspecies, varieties, etc, are covered in the species article unless the article becomes very long. "Very long" is defined at Wikipedia:Article size as "over 10,000 words". Having all the subtaxa described on the species page allows readers to compare and contrast the differences without having to jump from page to page. Here are couple of examples; Banksia ericifolia and Grevillea juniperina. Abductive (reasoning) 22:31, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

ok. Starzoner (talk) 22:40, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Pleurothallis cundinamarcae moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Pleurothallis cundinamarcae, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Hyperik ⌜talk⌟ 00:57, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:The Greatest Beer Run Ever (film)

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:28, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Synonyms

Please don't list synonyms in the text, as you did in various Vernonia articles (e.g. Vernonia schweinfurthii). They belong in the taxobox, under the item "| synonyms="; if multiple, {{specieslist}} is useful here. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 01:58, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

ok. got it. Starzoner (talk) 13:56, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Categorized user subpages

Hey S, I saw you cleared out Category:Pleurothallis, thanks, but you still have user subpages in Category:Allium, and probably others (you have so many that I can't possible check them all). Can you please do a one-time, comprehensive fix of ALL your subpages, so I don't have to keep coming back here on this issue? Thanks in advance, UnitedStatesian (talk) 02:39, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

UnitedStatesian, i see the Allium page has a small amount of entries there. I'm gonna try and publish them all this weekend. As for the rest, I'll get on them. Starzoner (talk) 13:57, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:2021 American television episodes

A tag has been placed on Category:2021 American television episodes requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Begonia altoperuviana moved to draftspace

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Begonia anaimalaiensis moved to draftspace

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Listing synonyms

When adding lists of synonyms to taxoboxes, please don't use {{plainlist}}; rather use {{specieslist}}, which both correctly italicizes names, and adds the authority in smaller type. Example: Carex appendiculata. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 23:36, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

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Hotel Transylvania 4

Can you help fix this issue. The redirect at Hotel Transylvania 4 needs to be deleted to move the page at Hotel Transylvania 4 (film). Cardei012597 (talk) 22:00, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

@Cardei012597:, Done. :) Starzoner (talk) 22:30, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

IP Vandal

Can you help me stop the constant vandalism happening at Hotel Transylvania 4? This singular IP editor will not stop vandalising Hotel Transylvania 4 after many warnings. Cardei012597 (talk) 02:21, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Cardei012597, I"m not admin but I have page mover rights. Have you tried reporting him to WP:ANI? Starzoner (talk) 02:30, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Ok, I reported the IP user to WP:ANI, I just hope someone end this issue soon. Cardei012597 (talk) 02:38, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Using appropriate geographical categories

A large number of articles you've created are using obsolete geographical categories, i.e. categories not part of the World Geographical Scheme for Recording Plant Distributions. The WGSRPD is the accepted scheme for assigning geographical categories to plant articles. Obsolete categories in use in your articles include: Category:Flora of India, Category:Flora of Indonesia and Category:Flora of Malaysia. See the instructions at each of these specific category descriptions for a list of valid categories to reassign articles to and, in general, see the category guidance at Wikipedia:WikiProject Plants/World Geographical Scheme for Recording Plant Distributions.

The following articles should be revised to use the appropriate geographical categories:

Category:Flora of India:

Category:Flora of Indonesia:

Category:Flora of Malaysia:

Additionally in these articles, a number of species are described as "endemic", where this may not be an appropriate use of the term. Occurrences of that term should also be reviewed. Declangi (talk) 21:32, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Declangi, got it. I'll take a look over the next week. Starzoner (talk) 21:35, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Declangi, I think i tagged all the flora of Malaysia plants (the ones that are as well as in also in Flora of Indonesia as well at the same time). Time to tag the rest of the Flora of Indonesia and India ones. Starzoner (talk) 21:19, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Declangi, I think I got them all. Starzoner (talk) 00:02, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

I've looked at some of the above articles and while the categories now appear to be generally within the WGSRPD scheme, some issues remain:

Begonia albococcinea and some other India species now use Category:Flora of Tamil Nadu. Such a specific category is not supported by the articles' sources. Category:Flora of India (region) may be a possibility but these articles should be checked against the source and the category description.
Use of the term "endemic". The above articles (and likely others) should be checked for use of this term. A species cannot really be "endemic to Indonesia", it's a very large and diverse country. Nor can a species be endemic to multiple countries on different landmasses. Declangi (talk) 04:27, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Plant stub notability

To be transparent, when assessing the plant stubs that you've been creating, I've been searching for the scientific name on Google Scholar. If I get a fair amount of hits (>10 or so), I let it through without tags. If I get less than that but see a citation to Plants of the World or another reliable source, I tag it with {{notability}}. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 20:46, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Happy 20th anniversary!

	Celebration~!
	Wikipedia will only ever turn 20 once! Hope you are doing well and have a prosperous onwiki experience in the future. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 02:08, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Fallout (TV series)

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Your draft article, Draft:Untitled McClane Series

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Your draft article, Draft:Night School (TV series)

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Euphorbia aggregata moved to draftspace

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Euphorbia akenocarpa

The article says "endemic to Algeria, Morocco, Sardinia, Sicily, Spain, Tunisia". As previously outlined at User talk:Starzoner/Archive 5#Using appropriate geographical categories and elsewhere, this is not a suitable use of the term.

Also, the "Show preview" function should be used before publishing to catch red-linked categories, as with this article. Declangi (talk) 03:48, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Declangi, should be fixed. Starzoner (talk) 03:52, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

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16:09, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Carex augustini moved to draftspace

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Your draft article, Draft:The Sweet Mess (film)

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Your draft article, Draft:The Sweet Mess (novel)

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Your draft article, Draft:Untitled Empire spinoff

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Your draft article, Draft:Untitled Mulan sequel

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18:30, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Permanent Record (film)

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Your draft article, Draft:Phantom of the Opera (upcoming film)

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Your draft article, Draft:Untitled Tham Luang cave rescue documentary

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Draft:Untitled Jumanji film

Hello, i noticed that you reverted my edits. most of the information was confirmed by IMDB and sources. Please do not revert my edits again. thank you. from Cody Taylor — Preceding unsigned comment added by MakingNewMusic (talk • contribs) 17:05, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

no. Clearly fake data. Also, we do not accept IMDb per WP:IMDb. Do that again or I will report you for inserting fake info. Starzoner (talk) 17:24, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Children of the New World (film)

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Your draft article, Draft:Prince Anders (film)

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Draft: Mission: Impossible 8

Hello, i noticed that you reverted my edits. for once, i understand why you would revert my edits. I'll try to find a better source for this information. thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MakingNewMusic (talk • contribs) 15:32, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2021-05

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Problems

IPv6 addresses were written in lowercase letters in diffs. This caused dead links since Special:Contributions only accepted uppercase letters for the IPs. This has been fixed. [13]

Changes later this week

You can soon use Wikidata to link to pages on the multilingual Wikisource. [14]
Often editors use a "non-breaking space" to make a gap between two items when reading but still show them together. This can be used to avoid a line break. You will now be able to add new ones via the special character tool in the 2010, 2017, and visual editors. The character will be shown in the visual editor as a space with a grey background. [15][16]
Wikis use abuse filters to stop bad edits being made. Filter maintainers can now use syntax like 1.2.3.4 - 1.2.3.55 as well as the 1.2.3.4/27 syntax for IP ranges. [17]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 February. It will be on all wikis from 4 February (calendar).

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Minerva is the skin Wikimedia wikis use for mobile traffic. When a page is protected and you can't edit it you can normally read the source wikicode. This doesn't work on Minerva on mobile devices. This is being fixed. Some text might overlap. This is because your community needs to update MediaWiki:Protectedpagetext to work on mobile. You can read more. [18][19]
Cloud VPS and Toolforge will change the IP address they use to contact the wikis. The new IP address will be 185.15.56.1. This will happen on February 8. You can read more.

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22:38, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Little Town

The Collider article wrote "Menken calls it The Little Town, but we’ve confirmed that it’s simply Little Town."

The title is from the lyrics to "Belle," where she sings "Little town It's a quiet village Every day Like the one before Little town Full of little people Waking up to say."

Or the article title could be called "Beauty and the Beast: The Prequel Series" since that is Disney's official working title from their investor day. [20] --DrBat (talk) 18:51, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

The variety source is much better as a solid source, and it quotes directly from Alan Menken, who said "the Little Town". What you are doing is more Fan cruft. ALso, why did you move the page that title? Do you have a source for that? Starzoner (talk) 20:04, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

It was Disney's official working title from their investor day in December. [21] [22]--DrBat (talk) 20:14, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Fixer Upper (upcoming TV series)

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"Resignation of Donald Trump" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Your draft article, Draft:A League of Their Own (upcoming TV series)

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Your draft article, Draft:Dirty Dancing (upcoming film)

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Sonic Prime

Why did you draft the page? The article had all of the pertinent information currently available, and is of a notable subject with sufficient sources attached. Doomhiker (talk) 01:44, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

sorry it felt like it was a bit premature and probably needs a bit more info. It probably needs more info that it is *currently* in production. Starzoner (talk) 01:46, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

There's literally no more info to add. If you think that there is info yet to be added, please give sources first. It's not premature either - the show was formally, officially announced an widely reported, thus deserving a page. Moving it back to mainspace. Doomhiker (talk) 01:48, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

ok. Doomhiker. I'm sorry. Starzoner (talk) 01:49, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Doomhiker, the move to draftspace was valid. Per WP:TV consensus, the show needs to actually be in production to have a live article; an official order is not enough. -- /Alex/₂₁ 00:53, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

And nothing in the sources listed stated that the show wasn't already in production: we got an official announcement and nothing says that production hasn't already started. Doomhiker (talk) 16:23, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Nothing in the sources states that the series is in production. It is the onus of the editor to prove what has started, and not what has not. An official announcement does not mean production has begun; that would be classified as OR and/or SYNTH. -- /Alex/₂₁ 00:12, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

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Happy New Year 2021!

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Cylindrolobus

Hello Starzoner. I was bored/prevaricating/avoiding other stuff, and created the Cylindrolobus page. Is it ok? Brunswicknic (talk) 03:11, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-06

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The Wikipedia app for Android now has watchlists and talk pages in the app. [23]

Changes later this week

You can see edits to chosen pages on Special:Watchlist. You can add pages to your watchlist on every wiki you like. The GlobalWatchlist extension will come to Meta on 11 February. There you can see entries on watched pages on different wikis on the same page. The new watchlist will be found on Special:GlobalWatchlist on Meta. You can choose which wikis to watch and other preferences on Special:GlobalWatchlistSettings on Meta. You can watch up to five wikis. [24]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 February. It will be on all wikis from 11 February (calendar).

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When admins protect pages the form will use the OOUI look. Special:Import will also get the new look. This will make them easier to use on mobile phones. [25][26]
Some services will not work for a short period of time from 07:00 UTC on 17 February. There might be problems with new short links, new translations, new notifications, adding new items to your reading lists or recording email bounces. This is because of database maintenance. [27]
Last week Tech News reported that the IP address Cloud VPS and Toolforge use to contact the wikis will change on 8 February. This is delayed. It will happen later instead. [28]

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17:40, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: The 4400 (upcoming TV show) (February 9)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by AngusWOOF were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please wait until the series has commenced principal photography and indicated a release date of the first episode.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 20:27, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Starzoner! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 20:27, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

World Health Organization's response to the COVID-19 pandemic

Hello friend. When you get a chance, I invite you to provide feedback at [29], as part of the WP:BRD process. Thank you for your time. –Novem Linguae (talk) 08:16, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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Your draft article, Draft:My Spy 2

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On redundant sources and reversions

Hi. This is the second time it happens, and you seem to get upset, then realize that the sources are indeed redundant and remove them yourself. Before, I thought that you were just upset that the sources were being removed, but this is the second time that you revert me before reverting yourself, once you've apparently realized you were wrong. Now, this plus your edit summary that says we do not need to constantly hit revert makes me think that what you don't like is being reverted. Here you considered my reversion aggressive when all I did—which is all required to do—is state the reason behind it in the edit summary. Immediately after reverting to your original edit, without stating your reason why you thought the sources should stay, you reinstated my reversion, but apparently did it manually, which is exactly the same thing you did this time. Now why is that? Is it because an edit reverted appears in your edit count? Is it something you do every time you get reverted, or just in these two cases? Reversion is part of the process of Wikipedia editing, it's just an easy way to fix a mistake, be it one's own mistake or someone else's. If you make enough edits, at one point you're going to make mistakes, and those mistakes are going to get corrected by someone, more often than not using the reversion tool. It honestly suprises me that, having been editing regularly since November 2019 and having made no less than 138,260 edits, you haven't already got used to being reverted. I certainly have and I've made ten percent of your edits having been here like five times longer you. I'm constantly reverting other users, and I'm almost as constantly being reverted. There are no hard feelings behind it, as long as there's a reason for them. —El Millo (talk) 22:57, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Last try

Okay, you clearly seem to be having a problem either with me or with something else that is making you react like this. Whenever you want to talk about this, you're invited to my talk page to discuss it. —El Millo (talk) 01:55, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

what do you want? simply put, I don't to constantly see people reverting me for little to no reason. I've been reverted multiple times by multiple people for the most random reasons other than they want it that way, and I'm really tired of it. Starzoner (talk) 02:04, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

There was a reason, and it was a reason you agreed with, as you did exactly the same thing as I did only minutes later, both times. There's no difference between reverting someone and just manually undoing what they did except for the inconvenience of the latter. It seems you're getting angry at me for things other people did. Some editors do revert edits just because, and I've seen it happen, but that's not what I did in any of these two cases. Lastly, if you considered my first reversion "aggressive", I don't know what you'd call removing a perfectly civil message from your talk page twice, and reverting someone with no reason given, which is what you did, both times, before showing that you actually agreed with the reason I had given you, just that you didn't like that it was a reversion. Honestly, there's nothing wrong about being reverted, you know? —El Millo (talk) 02:10, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

ok: I'm sorry. I"m getting worked up over this. Starzoner (talk) 02:11, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Apologies accepted, and keep up the good work. —El Millo (talk) 02:12, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:The Patrick Star Show

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