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Congratulations

Congratulations on you imminent promotion to sysop status Srikeit. You are truly an unsung hero of the project and it was a privilege to nominate you. As with the my other noms, the RfA statistics do not convey the magnitude of your contribution. All the best, Blnguyen | rant-line 04:23, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

A nice protein structure for teh organic chemistry fanatic!

An early congrats from me. I may not have the time later on! Use the tools well. Gizza^Chat ^© 04:44, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations!! You will make a fabulous admin ~~until you turn rouge~~! Good luck and happy meddling with those tools! - Tangot a ngo 07:08, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Congrats and well done!! Woo-hoo!! Highly impressive RfA! Use the powers well! -- Samir धर्म 07:09, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

I felt bad not bringing anything also, so I brought some brownies. -- Samir धर्म 08:12, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

I figured you had enough treats, but I brought some mithai anyway since that seems to be a theme here. :)

Congratulations. - Taxman ^Talk 11:35, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Well darn it, I'm going to say "congrats" too. I'm so glad you had such strong support too. Its high time you were given the old mop and broom. Well done. Gwernol 14:09, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Administrator

Congratulations, you are now an administrator - and with a huge majortiy of support! If you have not done already, now is the time to read the Wikipedia:Administrators' how-to guide and Wikipedia:Administrators' reading list. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me, or raise them on the Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard. All the best, Warofdreams talk 11:01, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations Tintin (talk) 11:10, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

From me too!! -- Lost 11:48, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

And from me too. Am extremely overjoyed to see your name here. - Aksi_great (talk) 12:12, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations!!! Remember what I said on IRC? Really happy to see [1]. Keep up the good work! -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}16:03, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations! All the best with the shiny buttons. - Ganeshk (talk) 16:43, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations for becoming admin. *~Daniel~* ☎ 22:31, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!!

Hi Mets501, thanks for reporting 82.198.250.69, he was my first block!! Cheers --Srikeit ^{(Talk | Email)} 13:00, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations! I'm so sorry I wasn't here to support you when you ran (I was on wikibreak); it would have definitely been a support vote from me. —Mets501 (talk) 13:04, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my page. --Nlu (talk) 20:48, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks as well for the reverts and the sprotection. Great work so far as an admin! -- Samir धर्म 03:08, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

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Congrats

Hello, congratulations. I came a day late - yesterday, I could not come and misssed the party. You got so many supports! All the best! --Bhadani 14:28, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Kya kahun yaar. Congratulations and I am jealous! ;) --Nearly Headless Nick 12:51, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Userpage vandalism

Thanks for reverting the edits made to my userpage. —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξ φ 13:02, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

80.249.49.8

Hi. You recently shortened the block on 80.249.49.8, one of the IPs I edit from behind when I'm at work. Thanks. A very large number of schoolkids edit from behind that IP, though, so if it's not blocked then there's loads of vandalism. Now that soft blocking is an option, I suggest that you change the block to an infinite duration soft block. Thanks. --HughCharlesParker (talk - contribs) 14:46, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Well its probably because I'm a n00b admin, but I really don't understand what you mean by soft-blocking. I shortened the block duration as it was a shared IP and there has been an instance of collateral damage occurring. IP's are never indef-blocked unless they're established to be open-proxies. Any further vandalism from this IP will be dealt with appropriate blocks. Thanks --Srikeit ^{(Talk | Email)} 06:46, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I moved your reply here to keep the conversation together. Soft blocking's only been available for about ten days - sorry, I should have given you more details. As a result of Tim Starling's recent work on MediaWiki Bug 550, it's now possible to soft block IP addresses, so that anonymous users can't edit, but logged-in users can. In situations like this, that's exactly how it needs to be - this IP is the home to thousands upon thousands of schoolkids, so there's loads of vandalism when it's not blocked. On the other hand, there are plenty of good users editing through it too, both adults and kids. I'm not an admin, so I can't check, but I think if you go to block an IP address now it gives you a bunch of fairly self explanatory options. --HughCharlesParker (talk - contribs) 09:54, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Misza13's pile!

Thank you for contributing the impressive the pile of supports gathered on my RfA, which passed with a final tally of 0x0104/0x01/0x00. I'm happy that so many people have put faith in my abilities as an admin and promise to use the tools wisely and do my best not to let you down. If I ever may be of assistance, just leave a note on my talk page.
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Protection Request

Hi, I was wondering whether you could protect this page - User:Daniel.Bryant/GraalOnline - because the mediation submissions are finished, and now I (the mediator) will go off and deliberate. In this time, I want to minimize a war of words. Killfest2 ^(Talk) 11:04, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Excuse me...

Pardon me, I am not a "Wikipedian," but your people seem to be treating me like one. In a bad way. You Wikipedians keep sending warnings to 220.240.241.185, which is apparently me, even though I have no idea waht it means. Anyway, I, an innocent member of the public, am constantly blocked from contributing to Wikipedia, and I'm trying to find help to once again contribute by being unblocked. Could you, Srikeit, send my message to some higher-up and tell him to stop blocking 220.240.241.185. I would much appreciate it. As I'm not a "Wikipedian" you will not be able to contact me as such, but send any reply to simon@leonsec.vic.edu.au if you help me.

Thankyou, Simon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.240.241.185 (talk • contribs) 16:12 23 July 2006 (UTC)

"Your people"? We are not anyone's "people". We're our own people. — Nathan ^(talk) _{/ 03:56, 24 July 2006 (UTC)}

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Relisting afds

Hi, when relisting afd discussions, please comment out the discussion on the older afd page (by adding  after the line, such as here). Thanks. - Bobet 11:04, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Turkification

Ah, finally its protected. Too bad you didn't show up a minute later than you did, since he was on 3 reverts already:(. But thanks anyway, as this will force people to move on to the talk page. Better earlier than never:)--Kilhan 05:46, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

3RR

Hello, may i ask why there is no result for my report of 3RR on Cyrus II article by User:SG? If there is something i left out in the report please let me know. Thank you --Spahbod ☼ 17:54, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: Userpage sprotection

Hey, thanks for the quick semi-protection, Srikeit! I'm currently functioning on only four hours of sleep, but otherwise I'm quite well. :) How've you been? Regards, Sango 123 23:38, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Fast!

You've blocked some 4 or 5 usernames before I could! -- Samir धर्म 06:59, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Good job

[2] - Aksi_great (talk - review me) 14:38, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry. Everyone makes mistakes here. The good thing about wikipedia is that all mistakes are revertable (except for the block log :)) - Aksi_great (talk - review me) 14:46, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Check out User:Anty-Cast. Seems to be a sock of Babuba due to this comment on Bhadani's talk page. - Aksi_great (talk - review me) 15:01, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks from Yanksox

Hey, Srikeit/archive 7, thanks for supporting my RfA, with a tally of 104/4/7...

I am now an admin!!!

I was and still am very flattered by all the kind comments that I recieved, I will also take into account the comments about how I could improve. I guarantee I will try my best to further assist Wikipedia with the mop. Feel free to drop in and say hi or if you need anything. Again, thank you so much! Yank sox 07:49, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Languages

Hi There! Can you translate my name in what language you know please, and then post it Here. I would be very grateful if you do (if you know another language apart from English and the ones on my userpage please feel free to post it on) P.S. all th translations are in alpahbetical order so when you add one please put it in alpahbetical order according to the language. Thanks!!! Abdullah Geelah 16:40, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

FAC

Hopefully you should see FAC today or within 2-3 days. Waiting for approval from Ambuj. You can just quickly read through the entire article and check for any errors. Both Nirav and I have are very familiar with the article and may not be able to spot some errors. - Aksi_great (talk - review me) 06:43, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't think more photos are required. Though you can click a photo of the new flyover at Shreyas. Maybe we can add that to signify recent improvements in infrastructure. - Aksi_great (talk - review me) 06:51, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Are you using some automated tool for spell check? Does it have options to choose between American and British english? Some of the spellings that you have corrected are actually correct in British english. - Aksi_great (talk - review me) 08:01, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

I have already reinstated the old spellings in some cases. Still, you can check if there are any more spellings left to be converted to British spellings. - Aksi_great (talk - review me) 08:10, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Your photos

Hello Srikeit. As usual, your photos of Ahmedabad really brighten up the day. I am thinking of which photo to use. I really like the first one a lot. There is one thing I wanted to tell you a long time back. Why don't you upload your images on commons? That would make these images available to all wikis. - Aksi_great (talk - review me) 13:41, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

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Barnstar

Re your msg: Yes, it worked out fine. :-) -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}12:38, 5 August 2006 (UTC)~

My RfA

Thankyou for your participation in my RfA. Due to an almost even spread of votes between Oppose and Support (Final (16/13/6)) I have decided to withdraw for now and re-apply in a couple of months as suggested. I thank everyone for their kind support of my editorial skills; it meant a lot to me to get such strong recommendations from my fellow editors. If you ever have any hints as to how I can improve further, I would love to hear from you. Viridae ^Talk 15:24, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Tabriz rug

Hi,

You have locked the Tabriz rug for further editing. But, there is one serious issue. The web page in its current format is pro-Iranian and most of the information lacks evidences. I would appreciate if you could include on the top of the page that this web page is disputed.

Can you please also assign to this web page one moderator or facilitator. Because I don't think that without the 3rd party involvement we can solve many of my disagreement with persian nationalists.

Thanks,

Ramil

Another star

		The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		For bopping vandals on the head without rest with your almost-one-month-old tools, I award Srikeit this anti-vandalism barnstar! --james^(talk) 11:40, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

As long as you don't burn me with that thing ;) Keep it up! --james^(talk) 23:35, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

You've got a Thank you card!

Open your card!

Dear Srikeit, thank you so much for your beautiful words, your kidness and your trust in me. My Request for Adminship is finally over, and the support and appreciation that the community has gifted me will stick in my mind as long as I live. I have no way to properly express how grateful I am to you for all you've done for me, and all I can tell you is, I'll try not to disappoint you nor anyone else with my use of the buttons... and if I mess up, make sure to come here and give me a good yell! :) Seriously, tho, if you ever need my help, either for admin-related stuff or in any other way, you'll always be welcome to message me, and I promise I'll try my very best.
Despite I've never had the pleasure of talking to you until now, dear Srikeit, know that your name is one I am familiar with, and I know you're a great editor and an awesome person. From this day on, I also consider you my friend, and I'd be happy and honored if you consider me as your own. With a big hug, your friend,

Phaedriel ♥ tell me

Help Please

I need a help from you. User AED has listed an article (biography) about me for deletion. Following that there has been comments like "non-notable" "exam-cram" "limited shelf life". How am I to oppose it. If it is an article, we can remove that citing lack of sources. I was pushed into editing the article only for the past 2 days after that. Initially the reason given for delete was Not-notable. When I gave enough proof that I have written 6 medical text books [3] they have changed the accusation into Vanity. And one user have voted three times for it to be deleted. Another doctor from Delhi (may be some one who knows me in real world and does not like me) has gone to the extent of telling that no one knows about me

I understand that I should not write an article about me. You should note that the article was not written by me. Hence I am not able to comprehend the Vanity Issue. My problem is not with deleting or keeping it. It is regarding to the mud sligning that has been happening in the AFD Debate of various individuals (as well as corporates / Organisations etc) after nominating the article for debate in the recent past and unfortunately I am a victim now. If it is an article, we can remove that citing lack of sources. But the baseless insulting comments made here will stay.Doctor Bruno 13:57, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

I guess you have misunderstood me. This article was not written my me. ANy how, I feel that WP:BIO says about Published authors, editors and photographers who received multiple independent reviews of or awards for their work. Can you be more clear as to why I don't fit into that criteria. I am asking the question not only for me, but for similar situations. Doctor Bruno 07:20, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Regarding the counter points

The article was not written by me. When this controversy erupted, I read the guidelines regarding autobiography and has followed what is given in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:AUTO#If_Wikipedia_already_has_an_article_about_you Even without going through the debate, when users accuse of vanity (as if I have created the article) it hurts a lot
WP:BIO clearly says that you can have articles on published authors. There is no talk about Junior/Senior, Undergraduation/Post Graduation, Fiction/Nonfiction etc.

My main concern is that all these points come out only after I put a counter question. They are not the real facts, but are made up as the users ego prevent them from stepping back. In order to substantiate the hasty vote, they invent new guideline.

Wounded by these new "self invented" guidelines, I even deleted the article my self, but that has been restoredDoctor Bruno 07:27, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Doctor Bruno 07:27, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

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IRC

Help needed. Can you please repeat the set of instructions needed to connect? I got disconnected. - Aksi_great (talk - review me) 12:58, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Hiding a revision on my talk page

Hi there, Thanks for hiding the revision on my talk page. I don't really mind if its hidden instead of deleted, as long as the general public can't see it; I trust sysops. Thanks again. --Draicone ^(talk) 06:40, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Azerbaijani rug

Azerbaijani rug has been protected for than a week. No discussion has happened, but I think it's time for it to be unportected, as it can't be protected forever. -- Jeff3000 13:31, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Dr. Bruno

Hey there -- I noticed you removed my comments from the WIkipedia page on Dr. Bruno. Removal of someone's personal views from a deletion page seems a little harsh (especially since therew was nothing inflamatory about what I was saying). Might I ask why they were taken out, please? 193.129.65.37 04:41, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I think that Srikeit made a mistake with the mouse or something. I reinserted when I replied to Doctorbruno again. Blnguyen | rant-line 04:44, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

My heartiest apologies. Actually I was editing from my cell-phone & must have accidentally removed some text. Sorry for the inconvenience & regards --Srikeit ^{(Talk | Email)} 04:58, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

No worries. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.129.65.37 (talk • contribs)

Marx Brothers

Per discussion on Request for protection. Spammer has returned.

Update on spammer- now has moved on to all individual Marx Brothers articles. Attempting to clean up. Rsm99833 20:49, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Can you block this 'gentleman'

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=69.194.160.248 Doctor Bruno 17:20, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response. By the way, do you have any idea about why I get information that I am editing from 64.233.xxx.xx which is supposed to be a google IP.

See [4] for the screen shotDoctor Bruno 19:00, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thanks so much for voting, Srikeit!

Thanks so much for your support vote on my request for adminship! With a final vote count of (82/5/0), it succeeded, and I'm now an administrator! I am thrilled with the overwhelming positive support from the community, and sincerely thank you once again for taking your time to voice your opinion. Feel free to contact me with any comments/suggestions in the future!
—Mets501 (talk) 03:52, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

CheckUser

You left that message on the wrong Talk page. Cheers. --Mais oui! 06:06, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

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Happy Birthday!!

Happy Birthday Srikeit. Blnguyen | rant-line 00:59, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Happy birthday :) --james^(talk) 01:04, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Happy birthday and happy Swatantrata Divas!! -- Samir धर्म 01:43, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Happy Birthday Doctor Bruno 02:17, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Happy B'day , and Independence day! -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}04:36, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I present you with these balloons to celebrate your birthday. I hope you have a great day. Daniel.Bryant

Just a happy Birthday message to you, Srikeit/archive 7, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day!

Have a good one :) -Ladybirdintheuk 06:48, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

ADn obviously, from me too! Have a great day!!! :DDDD --May the Force be with you! Shr e shth91 ($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 09:57, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Wishing you all the best on your birthday! From the Wikipedia Birthday Committee.

Æon ^{Insane Ward} 16:45, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!

Have a very happy birthday on your special day!
Best wishes, Thisthema n (19:04, 15 August 2006 (UTC))

Many happy returns and enjoy the day! Thisthema n 19:04, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Hungry? Here's a little snack for you on your birthday, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day, Srikeit/archive 7!

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hahaha

Ha, thanks very much for the cake! :P One more thing, could you, umm, pleaseee, give your opinion of Featured Portal candidates?? Pleaseee... Its the Indonesian portal. Cheers take care -- Imoeng 11:13, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment, I really appreciate it! Take care -- Imoeng 12:45, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the Cake!

Thanks Man for the cake! Happy Editting Æon ^{Insane Ward} 21:13, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

I can't believe you ate it all :( Ah well, I'll go buy another one. It's worth it. :) --james^(talk) 02:53, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

User:Ambrose222

Can you check this fellow out. Just added comments on my talk page [5]. I am sure he is the same fellow you blocked earlier. Too much of a coincidence. - Aksi_great (talk - review me) 12:07, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

And Fungus Mclatchey (talk · contribs) too.-- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}12:11, 18 August 2006 (UTC)