User talk:Sispandýrilla
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- How do i go about giving credit in simple english? Sispandýrilla (talk) 08:59, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- If you copy text from Wikipedia article "A" to Wikipedia article "B", then in the edit summary where you copy that content, you should write
copied content from [[A]]; see that page's history for attribution. Replace "A" with the actual title. DanCherek (talk) 12:13, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
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July 2022[edit]
Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. HistoryofIran (talk) 14:42, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- which one? Sispandýrilla (talk) 17:27, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Mountainous Republic of the Northern Caucasus. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.
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- What, its not disruptive? are you trying to set me up, turkic languages were spoken there Karachai-Balkar, Kumyk, Nogai were official languages!???!! Sispandýrilla (talk) 18:21, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Please actually read the text in the category i've put them under, I would also like an admins assistance. Sispandýrilla (talk) 18:26, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- [1] Yes, I can you see added that. However, places like Xinjiang, Sevastopol, etc. are not Turkic states, cities, regions, nor provinces. What you are doing does not seem much different from irredentism. In Wikipedia we use WP:RS - so, if you have WP:RS that supports to your additions, feel free to include them. --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:30, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not turkic myself i'm from the United Kingdom so i don't see how that applies to me? Sispandýrilla (talk) 18:32, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- also Xinjiang was created for the Uyghurs whom are turks
- officially known as the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region, the majority are Uyghur, Uyghur is an official language in the province. Sispandýrilla (talk) 18:33, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, I did not mean to imply anything to you nor sound mean. It was the best way to describe what this was remniscant of. Also, please see WP:EDITWAR. Yes, I can see that - however, that does not make it a 'Turkic state' (which is not mentioned in the lede either), considering it's a Chinese province. Unless you have a source that says otherwise of course. Perhaps a relevant example would be Switzerland, which has multiple languages, but isn't considered x state. --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:35, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- State doesn't mean country, it d'oesnt have to be a country to be considered a state, the USA has states its self, it just means area with a government, like a province, country, constituency, autonomous province. Sispandýrilla (talk) 18:37, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- The states in the US are in fact mini-countries in their own right (U.S. state). They are way different than a province in China. --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:39, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Not entirely, they are more akin to constituent countries in the UK which is a Unitary state aswell. Sispandýrilla (talk) 18:43, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Like Chinese provinces, an autonomous region has its own local government, but under Chinese law an autonomous region has more legislative rights, such as the right to "formulate self-government regulations and other separate regulations." An autonomous region is the highest level of minority autonomous entity in China, which has a comparably higher population of a particular minority ethnic group. to quote https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_regions_of_China, Sispandýrilla (talk) 18:44, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- I still fail to see how that supposed "right" (Uyghur genocide, Human rights in China) makes it 'Turkic state'. If it is indeed that, then please do show a source. --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:46, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- I am aware of that, but the source is the name, and its official language of the region, this is the source on the wikipedia page [1] Sispandýrilla (talk) 18:49, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Turkic_dynasties_and_countries its also listed as such on this page Sispandýrilla (talk) 18:57, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, that's not how it works. We need an actual (reliable) source stating that it's a 'Turkic state'. And that article is a lost cause. --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:05, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- please do'nt be the kind of person thats like "Hwere is the exact phrasing its toxic and counterproductive, instead please try and usderstand what state means, it can mean subdivision, it can mean country all in one, ic an respect if english isnt your first language but state literally is a catch-all term for region with goverment plus that page is a source in itself. Sispandýrilla (talk) 19:12, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- This has nothing to do with language - and if it was, I'm quite certain the first language of the people at Oxford is English [2]. Ping me when you have a source. --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:14, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Look at the second definition. like please read your own sources too, and i don't want to come across as rude or anything, uyghur is a co-official language in xinjiang https://web.archive.org/web/20181226074704/https://www.ethnologue.com/country/CN/status Sispandýrilla (talk) 19:19, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not sure how Uyghur being a co-official language in Xinjiang makes it a Turkic state, it's still a Chinese province. If it is that obvious, then can't you just find a single reliable source that calls it for a 'Turkic state'? --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:21, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- I did that already its on wikipedia itself already https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Turkic_dynasties_and_countries#Autonomous_regions which a Turkic language is a majority or sizeable majority, a province is still a state, do you want me to change the name of the category to Turkic States and Provinces then? despite state being a catch-all term Sispandýrilla (talk) 19:24, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- WP:NOTSOURCE. No because it isn't a Turkic province either, it's a Chinese province... --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- A turkic isn't a country its a language family. Sispandýrilla (talk) 19:28, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_languages
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_peoples Sispandýrilla (talk) 19:29, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not going to bother if you aren't willing to listen. i've given sources, if you change the goalpost to make sure the uyghurs aren't considered the people of xinjiang but chinese thats on you i'm being as patient as i can Sispandýrilla (talk) 19:28, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- You are yet to to show a single source that calls it a 'Turkic state'. As already said, Wikipedia is not a source per WP:NOTSOURCE, yet you claim I am the one that is not listening. Please see our guidelines, especially WP:RS, WP:POV, WP:NOTSOURCE. I'm gonna steer off now, ping me when you have a reliable source. You could also take your concerns to the Xinjiang talk page to see what others have to say. --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:32, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- i cant really continue debating if one side is going to deny uyghur heritage
- its implied
- Language + region made for the ethnicity = said ethnicity state Sispandýrilla (talk) 19:44, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- You are yet to to show a single source that calls it a 'Turkic state'. As already said, Wikipedia is not a source per WP:NOTSOURCE, yet you claim I am the one that is not listening. Please see our guidelines, especially WP:RS, WP:POV, WP:NOTSOURCE. I'm gonna steer off now, ping me when you have a reliable source. You could also take your concerns to the Xinjiang talk page to see what others have to say. --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:32, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not going to bother if you aren't willing to listen. i've given sources, if you change the goalpost to make sure the uyghurs aren't considered the people of xinjiang but chinese thats on you i'm being as patient as i can Sispandýrilla (talk) 19:28, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- A turkic isn't a country its a language family. Sispandýrilla (talk) 19:28, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- WP:NOTSOURCE. No because it isn't a Turkic province either, it's a Chinese province... --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- I did that already its on wikipedia itself already https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Turkic_dynasties_and_countries#Autonomous_regions which a Turkic language is a majority or sizeable majority, a province is still a state, do you want me to change the name of the category to Turkic States and Provinces then? despite state being a catch-all term Sispandýrilla (talk) 19:24, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not sure how Uyghur being a co-official language in Xinjiang makes it a Turkic state, it's still a Chinese province. If it is that obvious, then can't you just find a single reliable source that calls it for a 'Turkic state'? --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:21, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Look at the second definition. like please read your own sources too, and i don't want to come across as rude or anything, uyghur is a co-official language in xinjiang https://web.archive.org/web/20181226074704/https://www.ethnologue.com/country/CN/status Sispandýrilla (talk) 19:19, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- This has nothing to do with language - and if it was, I'm quite certain the first language of the people at Oxford is English [2]. Ping me when you have a source. --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:14, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- please do'nt be the kind of person thats like "Hwere is the exact phrasing its toxic and counterproductive, instead please try and usderstand what state means, it can mean subdivision, it can mean country all in one, ic an respect if english isnt your first language but state literally is a catch-all term for region with goverment plus that page is a source in itself. Sispandýrilla (talk) 19:12, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, that's not how it works. We need an actual (reliable) source stating that it's a 'Turkic state'. And that article is a lost cause. --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:05, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Turkic_dynasties_and_countries its also listed as such on this page Sispandýrilla (talk) 18:57, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- I am aware of that, but the source is the name, and its official language of the region, this is the source on the wikipedia page [1] Sispandýrilla (talk) 18:49, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- I still fail to see how that supposed "right" (Uyghur genocide, Human rights in China) makes it 'Turkic state'. If it is indeed that, then please do show a source. --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:46, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Like Chinese provinces, an autonomous region has its own local government, but under Chinese law an autonomous region has more legislative rights, such as the right to "formulate self-government regulations and other separate regulations." An autonomous region is the highest level of minority autonomous entity in China, which has a comparably higher population of a particular minority ethnic group. to quote https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_regions_of_China, Sispandýrilla (talk) 18:44, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Not entirely, they are more akin to constituent countries in the UK which is a Unitary state aswell. Sispandýrilla (talk) 18:43, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- The states in the US are in fact mini-countries in their own right (U.S. state). They are way different than a province in China. --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:39, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- State doesn't mean country, it d'oesnt have to be a country to be considered a state, the USA has states its self, it just means area with a government, like a province, country, constituency, autonomous province. Sispandýrilla (talk) 18:37, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, I did not mean to imply anything to you nor sound mean. It was the best way to describe what this was remniscant of. Also, please see WP:EDITWAR. Yes, I can see that - however, that does not make it a 'Turkic state' (which is not mentioned in the lede either), considering it's a Chinese province. Unless you have a source that says otherwise of course. Perhaps a relevant example would be Switzerland, which has multiple languages, but isn't considered x state. --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:35, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- [1] Yes, I can you see added that. However, places like Xinjiang, Sevastopol, etc. are not Turkic states, cities, regions, nor provinces. What you are doing does not seem much different from irredentism. In Wikipedia we use WP:RS - so, if you have WP:RS that supports to your additions, feel free to include them. --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:30, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Please actually read the text in the category i've put them under, I would also like an admins assistance. Sispandýrilla (talk) 18:26, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
August 2022[edit]
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize pages by deliberately introducing incorrect information, as you did at Template:English-based Caribbean creoles, you may be blocked from editing. South Carolina is not in the Caribbean. BilCat (talk) 22:18, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
- Its not vandalism this was because bahamas creole and gullah have a common ancestor, this was talked about by famous gullah teacher sunn m'cheaux Sispandýrilla (talk) 08:48, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter. The navbox is based on geography, not relationship. BilCat (talk) 09:39, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
- Ok I didn't know that but you didn't have to make such a upfront accusation without asking me first. Sispandýrilla (talk) 09:42, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
- Also i've seen Bermuda, Bahamas and Barbados Classed as Caribbean without actually bordering the Caribbean sea. Sispandýrilla (talk) 09:48, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
- Ok I didn't know that but you didn't have to make such a upfront accusation without asking me first. Sispandýrilla (talk) 09:42, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter. The navbox is based on geography, not relationship. BilCat (talk) 09:39, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Sixpence (Post-Decimal)[edit]
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Speedy deletion nomination of Threepence (Post-Decimal)[edit]
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- ive chaned the wording up should be fine now Sispandýrilla (talk) 20:59, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
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