User talk:Sarahwyo

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April 2010[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. The recent edit that you made to the page Wyoming Wildlife Federation has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Please use the sandbox for testing any edits; if you believe the edit was constructive, please ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing for further information. Thank you. Praefectorian (talk) 02:08, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

April 2010[edit]

Hi! I am trying to have a Wikipedia page that looks exactly like the National Wildlife Federation page. We are an affiliate of NWF and they suggested that we start a page like theirs. Can you help me? {{helpme}} Your question. WyomingWildlife (talk) 02:12, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, the username you have chosen seems to imply that you are editing on behalf of a group, company or website.

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You may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, you must exercise great caution when editing on topics related to your organization.
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{{helpme}} I just edited the Wyoming Wildlife Federation page. Is it verifiable?

Help, please![edit]

{{helpme}} I just edited the Wyoming Wildlife Federation page. Is it verifiable?

Sarahwyo (talk) 01:51, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I just took a quick glance, but it seems OK. I'm not sure what you mean by "verifiable." I think someone removed something that was not supported the source indicated. Maurreen (talk) 05:01, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Posting in Village Pump seems to been a form of chumming for jackasses, given the stupid flag someone laid on top. Just grit your teeth. I don't think there's a shadow of a doubt that the subject of the article is "Notable," which is the main thing you need to worry about regarding deletion by the anal retentive, annoying, bossy sort... With respect to style, there are a couple things you could do that would be helpful. One is to write a lead summarizing the subject — and making a note of how it is "notable" without using the word "notable."

Example: The Wyoming Wildlife Federation is an American sportsmen's conservation organization in the state of Wyoming. Established in 1937, the WWF had a membership in 2009 of 5,000 members and was influential in the doing of this and that since 1980. — Borrow that phrasing and insert a couple important facts.

Then skip a line and put in a headline called something like ORGANIZATIONAL HISTORY and say the same stuff (and lots more) all over again.

Another thing that needs to be done is the installation of "Categories." Everything on Wikipedia needs at least one. One basically needs to find a couple similar pages and borrow the categories used there. I will hop over and add a couple categories for this article. Articles that don't have Categories get picked up by the software and attract (sometimes unwanted) attention.

Finally, the form of the footnotes isn't really fully kosher — at least to my eyes. The more kosher things are, the less the chance that a jackass will try to derive existential meaning by trashing your work. I will go "kosherize" one footnote and you may want to do the same for the others. Or not.

Hang in there, it's a little tricky getting up to speed with all the rules and regulations. One of the rules is IGNORE THE RULES and the fundamental principle is BE BOLD, so don't let people bully you.

Drop me a line if you need help or have questions. — Tim Davenport, Corvallis, OR MutantPop@aol.com Carrite (talk) 04:24, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I just put the first footnote into what is, to my taste, "good" form. It is still missing a page number, which should appear right before the retrieval date. I note that the document you are using as a citation doesn't seem to document either the foundation date or the membership level, so be SURE to find the page of the pdf document that substantiates what you are trying to substantiate and make a note of it. I really strongly recommend that you do footnotes using the system I used rather than the CITE WEB template — it's not really any harder and it looks a lot better on the page — and the nicer that things look, the less crap that people will flip you over content. Anyway, play with it and don't let people bully you. Carrite (talk) 04:43, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]