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A message from Shann editor

Shann editor (talk) 22:06, 29 May 2018 (UTC) Dear Sam, I'm writing you because, you have requested the page that is Draft:Model Livestock Institute Dhaka for the speedily deleted from Wikipedia. Actually, This is a different type of educational institution in Bangladesh and it should be kept in Wikipedia. I've written the details of the institution so mightbe it seems like promotional. I will edit it as like neutral. Thank you

Dear Shann editor. Draft:Model Livestock Institute Dhaka was, if memory serves, identical to this revision of your sandbox, complete with details of the training programs the institute offers and contact information. That is not an encyclopedic article, that is simply promotion. And it is not "might seems" it is "blatantly".
Perhaps a line or two could be stuck in the article about the foundation Model Livestock Advancement Foundation? That article was a decent little stub when Legacypac published the draft to article space, but it has since been bloated out of proportions, looking like an About page for the foundation, complete with a mission statement such as "The area of operation of the Society shall be everywhere in Bangladesh and any part of the world."I have pruned and copy-edited in Special:Diff/843693966/843755114.
I know you meant no harm when you created multiple new categories, but please, stop creating them.
Since your account was initially named Dr. Salma Sultana, is it a fair assumption to think that you are the Salma Sultana who runs the Model Livestock Advancement Foundation as well as Model Livestock Institute Dhaka? I will post a notice on your user talk page about our conflict of interest-policy.
Model Livestock Advancement Foundation has been edited by Wiki-Contributor BD (talk · contribs) who has created Draft:Dr. Salma Sultana. Is there a connection between that account and yours that you wish to disclose? Sam Sailor 07:40, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Shann editor (talk) 12:20, 31 May 2018 (UTC) Dear Sam, Thanks for your concern. I declare that,there is no conflict of interest. I have learnt from you a lot and in future I will try to write page with maintaining proper rules and regulation of wikipedia. Warm regards, Shann

I had a second look at your article Model Livestock Advancement Foundation and compared it with the foundations website. It is entirely copypasted from
and I have tagged it for speedy deletion as a copyright violation. Sam Sailor 10:59, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #315

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  • Development
    • The API respond for maxlag will in the future also include the dispach lag (phab:T194950)
    • Add Elastic and CirrusSearch in the Wikibase Docker image (phab:T192813)
    • Add OAuth extension to wikibase bundle container (phab:TT192364)
    • Work on showing constraints in the QueryService (phab:T194762)
    • Make the PropertySuggester use CirrusSearch (phab:T195490)
    • Add integer constraint in the constraint checks (phab:T167989)
    • Add “citation needed” constraint type (phab:T195052)
    • Make Special:EntityData should handle form IDs (phab:T192149)
    • Fix encoding problems for labels displayed in Lexemes (phab:T195359)
    • Improve the text in the grammatical feature field (phab:T193604)
    • Work on showing Lemma on Special:AllPages and other pages (phab:T195382)
    • Work on better handling use of statements linking to Lexemes on client (phab:T195615)
    • Fix a bug that breaks Lexeme when language or lexical category items don't have a label (phab:)

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City of New York

Hi Sam, I just added in this little nugget and thought you would be interested? "A stowaway. A teenager the 17 year old Billy Gawronski swam the Hudson River to stow away on board, he was soon caught. He was soon to make another attempt on the Bolling and get caught again. However despite all this he did get invited onto the expedition, joining and sailing before his 18th birthday. Meet the Teen Who Snuck Aboard a Polar Expedition Link to the source here: [National Geographic]. Best regards, Broichmore (talk) 18:07, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Wonderful find, Broichmore, old "swabby" here thoroughly enjoyed it. I added a cite news to this NYP article that goes into more details about Laurie Gwen Shapiro's book about Billy Gawronski. The book certainly got a lot of attention in January, I just finished reading the preview on Google Play (did you know that William's father arrived in the U.S. on the SS Campania?). I have applied for my NewspaperARCHIVE.com access to be renewed, there ought to be sources to build a little bio on Billy Gawronski. Should we, in the mean time, work on a DYK for City of New York (1885 ship)? Best regards, Sam Sailor 21:22, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Hi Sam, this ship just keeps giving. Have a look at Paul Siple and this story. I didn't know about the Carpathia; it's all good. Yes there's plenty of scope for a DYK, multiples of them!. I was thinking about exploring Byrd and "fund raising" as a topic, he may be an unsung pioneer of it. I've just finished an article on "Oscar Parkes", if your interested in reviewing it, I'll move it out of draft on your say so. Best regards, Jim. Broichmore (talk) 12:48, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, Jim for the link to the Scoutingradio page about Paul Siple, that's a great read. I'll be happy to look at Oscar Parkes; should we do the DYK preparation of City first? I'll continue on the article talk. Sam Sailor 16:53, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Sam, Thanks for sorting the error problem, it was giving me a headache. Any ideas for this DYK? Stowaway? Linked to Amundsen, Shackleton (tenuous), and Byrd. Born in Norway, coupled with floating museum on Eastern seaboard and Great Lakes?Broichmore (talk) 14:23, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

As I will go out soon, I proposed something, - please add a ref. If you think of better hooks, add ALT1: and more. I guess she wasn't City of New York when he bought her, - better wording. "used"? "named?" - Template:Did you know nominations/City of New York (1885 ship) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gerda Arendt (talk • contribs) 15:22, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
Yes Sam, he named her when he was completing repairs in New York, no doubt fundraising was in mind. Do I need to do more on the article? Many thanks for you help already... - Broichmore (talk) 19:28, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
@Broichmore: The message above yours was actually by Gerda Arendt; judging from a Google Books search on Byrd fundraising antarctica, the subject of fundraising is at least worth a mention in Byrd's article. I think we are good in regards to The City. What is next, Draft:Oscar Parkes? Best, Sam Sailor 06:26, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
Hi Sam, Many thanks for introducing me to inline citation, wish I'd made the effort a long time ago... The main Byrd article is pretty weak when it comes to the expedition, but my cup is overflowing with Byrd for the moment. I have two articles complete Draft:Oscar_Parkes and Draft:Birkdale (1892). I wrote Birkdale to showcase a particular marine artist's work, unfortunately we're two years away from his work being PD; so its missing an amazing gallery I'd planned. I still have to finish Draft:SS Yarmouth, which would be more to your liking I would think. I'll move whatever over to mainspace when your ready. Jim - Broichmore (talk) 18:16, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
​Always happy to help. Inline citations you already used, but list-defined references can be very useful, and can be combined with "normal" inline citations defined in the body of the article. In Special:Diff/845723590/845863124 I did that and used Reference Organizer for that purpose. Give the script a try. In the next diff Special:Diff/845863124/845863423 I formatted citations vertically using User:Zyxw/Tidy citations.js. You can install it by adding the following to your common.js {{subst:js|User:Zyxw/Tidy citations.js}}, save and bypass your browser cache. Let me know if you have any questions. I'll have a look at Draft:Oscar Parkes one of the next days. Have a fine evening, best --Sam Sailor 17:40, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Sam very much. Very helpful. Looks very complicated. I'll look at it tomorrow, hopefully I can get my head around it. I noticed all the dollar amounts in the article disappeared, was that intentional? Best Jim. Broichmore (talk) 18:58, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

​The scripts are both quite easy to install and once you play around with them and get to know them, they are quite easy to use and will save you a lot of time. There appears to be a bug in User talk:Dispenser/Dab solver that removes all dollar amounts, I will report it. We had a similar case in City of New York (1885 ship) in Special:Diff/843929452/843930093, where I sorted it four edits later in Special:Diff/843932483/843932712. Best, Sam Sailor 19:14, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
Bug report filed at User talk:Dispenser/Dab solver (Special:PermaLink/845883936). Sam Sailor 20:01, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Proquest

Are you saying that my name or my IP address come up when you look at a proquest link I have added?E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:38, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

No, heaven forbid! There's an ID at the end of the URL string. Unlikely to be a safety hazard, I guess. (I would love ProQuest access.) Sam Sailor 20:41, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. color me relieved. At a guess, it is the ID of the library I log in through.E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:56, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #316

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  • Press, articles, blog posts
    • Learning to Generate Wikipedia Summaries for Underserved Languages from Wikidata, presented at the Conference of the North American Chapter of the Association for Computational Linguistics by Lucie Kaffee and Hady Elsahar (see the poster and the paper)
  • Development
    • Developing a prototype for usability testing for how the term box (labels, descriptions, aliases) could work on mobile
    • Investigating how we can do the display of items (their label and sometimes description when linked to in a statement or in listings like Recent Changes) in a way that is less of an issue for the database
    • Working on including the dispatch lag in the maxlag API to make it easier for bots to see when they should stop editing because of performance reasons (phabricator:T194950)
    • Working on adding a Lua function to check if an item is a subclass/instance of another one (phabricator:T179155)
    • Created an API that returns constraint violations for an item in TTL format in preparation for making constraint violations queryable in the query service (phabricator:T194762)
    • Started planning for support for Senses
    • Added more helpful text on Special:NewLexeme to make it easier to understand what information is required (phabricator:T193602)
    • Working on pre-filling the spelling variant for a new Form's representation (phabricator:T195708)
    • Worked on showing the Lemma of a Lexeme instead of just its ID in Special:AllPages, Recent Changes and diffs (phabricator:T191600, phabricator:T195382, phabricator:T195511)
    • Made the representation of a Form in a diff link to the Form (phabricator:T195512)
    • Fixed an issue on the Wikipedias and co when a statement in an item that was used there linked to a Form or Lexeme (phabricator:T195615)
    • Made the "publish" button stay disabled for a Lexeme's header when there is nothing to save (phabricator:T196342)

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Deleting Wiki page

Hi Sam, I am reaching out as I saw that you recommended that a wiki page featuring me and my work be deleted. I am very happy that someone finally nominated it for deletion. I just wanted to make sure you knew that I support your nomination to delete the page as soon as possible. I posted a note in the discussion but wasn't sure you were going to be able to see it. Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcoaponte (talk • contribs) 00:37, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

​Noted. If you want to start editing about anything else than yourself, your mother, your theatre group, please let me know if I can be of any assistance. Sam Sailor 14:52, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Venezuelan deletion nominations

Hi! I started a discussion regarding the recent deletion nominations, I thought you might be interested in seeing it. Best wishes! --Jamez42 (talk) 18:26, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

@Jamez42: Thank you, good move. Best, Sam Sailor 18:29, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: Draft:Fahad Khan - Canada Prime Marketing

Hello Sam Sailor, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Draft:Fahad Khan - Canada Prime Marketing, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not unambiguously promotional. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. LinguistunEinsuno (Linguist111) 20:15, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

@Linguist111: That's a mistake on your behalf and an utter waste of community time. Do you think you have the experience in deletion matters to run around using CSDH? I suggest you revert yourself. Sam Sailor 20:25, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
AfD is different from CSD. You don’t have to have a lot of experience in voting in AfD to understand what does and doesn’t qualify for CSD. You tagged a page for G11 that wasn’t obvious advertising. LinguistunEinsuno (Linguist111) 20:50, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
It took you 25 minutes to respond with that? I advise that you stop running around using CSDH. And please revert yourself in Draft:Fahad Khan - Canada Prime Marketing. Sam Sailor 20:55, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
Um... I went into the garden? Also, I do have quite a bit of experience with CSD, just so you know. Feel free to revert me and let an admin decide, if you want. LinguistunEinsuno (Linguist111) 21:01, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
I've deleted it and encourage Linguist111 to stay away from reviewing CSDs. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:06, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

edit conflict

damned trying to get your links on accesscrawl and i have deleted them - very sorry - trying to get it back JarrahTree 14:12, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

​ No worries. Sam Sailor 14:15, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
grrr - I have put/reinserted the two links - which are the perfect answer compared to my rambling missives. JarrahTree 14:19, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
​Pascal said it well. (If it is any consolation, I am not entirely comftable with the Two Column Edit Conflict View myself yet.) Sam Sailor 15:02, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism in mgwiki

Hi again! I wanted to notify that months ago article mg:Jose Rafael Cordero Sanchéz was created. I already tagged it for deletion, but an IP tried it to revert it and out of caution I was wondering if it was possible to delete the article and block the IPs. Thanks beforehand! --Jamez42 (talk) 20:29, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Hola Jamez42! Qué tal? How did you find the JRCS case? We have a regex set up in the global blacklist on Meta, and it should catch most of his attempts. G*d knows how he could create mg:Jose Rafael Cordero Sanchéz in February, I'll have a chat with a steward one of the next days. (In nl:Speciaal:Diff/51791524/51791543 and in nl:Speciaal:Diff/51791543/next you updated with multiple {{Bez}} in the "Salted" column. Nothing wrong with that per se, but the attempts at creating the titles are caught be the blacklist regex. :-) In any case, the only thing that really matters with the LTA file, is to update with new cases and update the total number of known deletions. Forget about updating the list of IPs, José is on a dynamic connection anyway.) And to your question in regards to the Malagasy Wikipedia: In my experience, most of the small Wikipedias has for convenience a WP:SYSOP shortcut, that leads to the local version of a project page about administrators. Here mg:Wikipedia:Mpandrindra. I trust you have Navigation Popups set globally and disabled locally, hover over the names in the list and notice that only Jagwar and BeGasy have edited recently. Perhaps they get a notification from this message and will delete mg:Jose Rafael Cordero Sanchéz? Normally, I will leave a message on an admins talk page on the small Wikipedias asking them to delete. Recently with mt:José Rafael Cordero Sanchez on Maltese Wikipedia we had the same scenario as on Malagasy Wiki: an IP would return and remove the {{delete}} template, and none of the admins there had been online for weeks or even months. In such a case, it is easier to go to an active global sysop, I always go to nl:Gebruiker:MoiraMoira as she knows the case (example). Global sysops can use their global permissions on Wikipedias with fewer than 10 admins or fewer than three active admins within the past two months. It is a pleasure to have somebody else onboard the case, I have been doing much of the sweeping for the last 3+ years, and if you have any questions, just ask. Thank you. Sam Sailor 07:08, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
¡Hola! Sorry! I forgot to answer this! Thanks for the thorough response! Last year I knew about JRCS' vandalism, and last week I just reminded of the issue, searched for it and found it in the mgwiki. Since I read about the global blacklist, I asked in Meta if said diacritical variation was already in the list; seems that it wasn't and as such it was updated. I also did some browsing through other Wikia and Media Wiki projects; if I happen to find another article I'll notify MoiraMoira, since you are so involved in the case I thought you were one! In any case, being a member of Wikimedia Venezuela I feel some responsability in keeping track of this case, please let me know if I can be of any help. Cheers! --Jamez42 (talk) 23:41, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
Jamez42, it is wonderful if you would keep an eye on that case, believe me, it does get kind of boring after a few years. Thanks for getting an update on the global blacklist. Yes, Wikiquote and Wikinews also need to be monitored from time to time. Does Crosswatch work for you? I get a server failure error message, and that's a shame: Crosswatch was such an effective tool once you had updated your watchlists on all projects. It's likely not of any importance now we have the global blacklist entry. Thanks again. Sam Sailor 06:17, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
Crosswatch seems to work alright for me, although I haven't used it before. I can keep a look at it from time to time if needed. --Jamez42 (talk) 14:48, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

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AYY it me Lil Moist

Hey homie! thanks for the encouragement on my wiki page. i get that making a wiki page about myself wont get me famous lol but i just wanna do it because like, why not! I do focus alot on music and trying to make myself better but I was having writers block so i got bored and wrote a wiki page on myself! LMAO have a good one sam and if you want listen to my music! XD ok peace homie! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lil Moist (talk • contribs) 01:45, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

  • Hi Lil Moist, good to hear you're from you! Do you believe this: I do remember being your age. I do remember questioning everything the old folks said. Disobeying orders. Doing what they said I should not do. ... Now, 4 reælz homie, stop submitting that draft about yourself. You want respect? Give us a little respect! ... And if a few years from now you want to write about something else than yourself, come back here and I'll try to guide you the best I can. Take care, Sam Sailor signing out at 06:07, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Page Deletion

Hi there! Please could you give info as to why the page: Pablo Bowman was deleted? Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbyoung00 (talk • contribs) 08:42, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Answered on user's talk page. Sam Sailor 09:07, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Gosos

Hi! Replying to the grammatical question posed by the user Gerda, I've personally never heard gosos being used as a plurale tantum. Rather, I've read "canto dei gosos" (gosos chant) or "cantare i gosos (di...)" (sing the gosos of...). But then again, I wouldn't count on Italian grammar to define Sardinian words, being from another language. Some of them, for example, are incorrectly used in their plural form to indicate a singular Sardinian noun, like a seadas instead of a seada. On the matter of the ban, I'd like to provide a detailed reply but as of now, I'd need to do some further research.--Dk1919 (talk) 08:41, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

​Ciao e benvenuto! Ho vissuto a Roma per 1 anno 30 anni fa, e capisco ancora la lingua scritta in una certa misura. Soprattutto se scrivi lentamente. ;-) (A) on the matter of sing./plur.: Goolge returns no hits on "un gosos" "un goso" and, as I wrote on DYK, a few examples were found where "un gosos" is in fact used. But perhaps we don't need to investigate this further, I think Gerda asked out of curiosity, and I freely admit that I love that kind of question and found it interesting to try and provide an answer. If clarification is needed, I do have an old contact on Sardegna, and if he is still alive, he may be able to either tell us the about the local use or to ask around. (B) regarding the ban: that would be lovely, 1000 grazie, and if you can give me some keywords in either Italian or English, I will see what sources I can find. A piú tardi, Sam Sailor 09:29, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
You are right that I asked of curiosity, - only investigate further if you are also curious ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:39, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
Sam Sailor 09:46, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

Oscar Parkes

Hi Sam, I put in for a DYK for Oscar Parkes, could you please have a look at it, in case I've done something wrong? Thanks in advance... - Broichmore (talk) 13:46, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

(watching) I formatted a bit (both nom and article), please try to combine one-sentence paragraphs, - a sequence of "In year, ..." is particularly discouraged. Congrats for the ship on the Main page! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:19, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
Hi Broichmore, I'd be delighted to have a look. I did a few small things and hid a dupe mention of his first book. I'm off now, so perhaps in 12 hours from now or so. A few quick ideas: level-3 sections for life periods? No "In 19xx" beginnings as Gerda remarked. Book titles in italics, not straight quotes. The usual "refs in order" requirement at DYK. ... There are numerous books where he is mentioned, I'll see what we can use. Gerda Arendt, thank you as always. Here you said "spell out numbers until twelve", but just FYI: "Integers from zero to nine are spelled out in words", cf. MOS:NUMERAL ... dewiki is actually even more relaxed, and: Die alte Regel, nach der Zahlen von 0 bis 12 generell in Buchstaben und Zahlen ab 13 in Ziffern zu schreiben sind, gilt heute nicht mehr., siehe de:WP:SVZ. :) Have a good evening, both! Sam Sailor 19:39, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
Jim, the currently first ref "RMG NMM" links to http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/15344.html but that is a painting, and I can't find the Parkes bio on RMG, can you help? Sam Sailor 09:16, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
Sam The biog details are contained within the description of the painting, Sam - Broichmore (talk) 09:56, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
Why, yes it is! Facepalm Ack! Sam Sailor 10:01, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

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for being collegial, helpful and kind. E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:57, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
Ah, that is kind of you, E.M.Gregory. (I ought to hand out a barnstar now and then to all of you who deserve it more than I.) Warm thanks, Sam Sailor 21:03, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
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Wikidata weekly summary #317

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  • Events
    • Wikibase meetup on June 17-19 in Berlin
    • Past: Wikidata Lab VIII in São Paulo
      • Images, metadata, and gamification of Wikidata by Magnus Manske (video, slides)
      • Discovering and modeling knowledge in Wikidata by Andrew Lih (video, slides)
  • Development
    • Prototype for mobile termbox
    • Moving away from wb_terms table
    • Continued work on making WikibaseLexeme compatible with Wikibase clients (T195615)
    • Error handling and usability for entering lemmas was improved (T196342, T197453)
    • Lexemes no longer randomly pop up in rdf dumps (T194627)

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DYK for Leiden Law School

Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Copied to User:Sam Sailor/DYK. Sam Sailor 12:40, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #318

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  • Development
    • Include Wikibase dispatch lag in API "maxlag" enforcing (phab:T194950)
    • Run full constraint check when saving a statement (phab:T194760)
    • Show map on items to preview coordinates (phab:T184933)
    • Implement property scope constraint to say if a property should be used on main snak qualifiers or references (phab:T197473)
    • Investigate on replacements for some parts of wb_terms table (phab:T197161)
    • Fix a UI glitch on Lexeme editing interface (phab:T195298)
    • Add names and descriptions for Lexeme, Form and Sense datatypes on Special:ListDatatypes (phab:T189935)
    • Display a warning message and prevent entering of lemmas with the same spelling variant (phab:T195372)
    • Work on showing description in Item selector in Special:NewLexeme (phab:T165597)

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DYK for City of New York (1885 ship)

On 27 June 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article City of New York (1885 ship), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the barque City of New York (pictured) was Richard E. Byrd's flagship on his first Antarctic expedition? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/City of New York (1885 ship). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, City of New York (1885 ship)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:01, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

Copied to User:Sam Sailor/DYK. Sam Sailor 12:40, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Joannes de Cordua

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Copied to User:Sam Sailor/DYK. Sam Sailor 12:40, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

NPP Backlog Drive Appreciation

Special Edition New Page Patroller's Barnstar
For completing over 100 reviews during the 2018 June Backlog Drive, please accept this Special Edition Barnstar. Thank you for helping out at New Page Patrol and keep up the good work. Cheers! — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 01:58, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
Copied to User:Sam Sailor/Barnstars. Sam Sailor 12:40, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Qabaniso Malewezi

On 2 July 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Qabaniso Malewezi, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Q wrote "Wikipedia"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Qabaniso Malewezi. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Qabaniso Malewezi), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Copied to User:Sam Sailor/DYK. Sam Sailor 05:46, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Reliability help

Hi Sam,

Im planning to create page Tinder Date killing

https://m.timesofindia.com/city/jaipur/priya-claimed-to-be-from-rich-family-a-filmmaker/articleshow/64086053.cms

https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/crime/story/jaipur-amer-woman-kidnap-murder-honeytrap-man-ransom-1227445-2018-05-05

https://m.hindustantimes.com/india-news/murder-atm-loot-extortion-the-life-of-a-27-year-old-jaipur-woman-accused-of-killing-man-she-lured-on-tinder/story-LtIw9lf2dl7wjVC3Num8mO_amp.html

https://m.hindustantimes.com/jaipur/tinder-date-killing-police-probing-if-priya-seth-s-boyfriend-has-criminal-history/story-2jzHfxqmiwgGO5seY9rKcO_amp.html

Please let me know if it passes WP:GNG. Ping me with my username in reply. Accesscrawl (talk) 15:25, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi Accesscrawl. I'd give that case a wide berth. Sam Sailor 16:57, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
ok Accesscrawl (talk) 17:01, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi I’m new around here

For someone who has just begun to edit things in my case that would be one thing, because I knew it to be a fact, what is the best place to go to read about the best way to do this in the future and how to add citations? Thank you very much in advance. Kate Ladyarcher64 (talk) 05:33, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Kate, I've posted a welcome message on your talk page. If you give me details on where and which citations you wish to add, I'll be happy to help you. Sam Sailor 05:52, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Jack Herer

Anyone know anything about a possible last book - not yet published but in existence? Thanks Ladyarcher64 (talk) 06:29, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Not I. Try asking at the Wikipedia:Reference desk. Sam Sailor 06:33, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Help to overcome Small, young, non-notable company issue

Hi Sam (@Sam Sailor:),

My wiki page got rejected with comment "Small, young, non-notable company. This basically amounts to promo.". Thanks for your quick review. Can you help me with a little more clarity on the following

1. I do have more reference links for the content. If I provide more reference links from reputed source will it get my companies wiki page to pass through?
2. What is the criteria that makes and organisation to fall under small and young company? How to comply this criteria?
3. The comment also said "do not resubmit" but after complying with above 2 pointers, can I resubmit?

Murali2013 (talk) 12:58, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

The following was originally another level-2 message:

A message from Murali2013

Recently my organisation's wiki page got rejected with comment "Small, young, non-notable company. This basically amounts to promo.". Can you help me with more clarity on the following

1. We do have additional reference links (atleast 10). If we update those reference links from magazines will it get my organisations wiki page to pass through? 2. What is the criteria that makes my organisation to fall under small and young company? How to comply this criteria? 3. The comment also said "do not resubmit" but after complying with above 2 points, can I resubmit? Murali2013 (talk) 13:11, 9 July 2018 (UTC)}}

  • The short answer here is: we are trying to be an encyclopædia. We are not the yelllow pages where people can create pages about their company or organisation. Please respect that. Do you want to edit about anything else than your company? Sam Sailor 13:54, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Oscar Parkes

On 10 July 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Oscar Parkes, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that naval historian and artist Oscar Parkes became interested in ships after seeing a picture of the USS Baltimore (pictured) on a biscuit tin? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Oscar Parkes. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Oscar Parkes), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 02:37, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Copied to User:Sam Sailor/DYK. Sam Sailor 11:30, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

File names

Hi! Just wanted to give a friendly reminder to make sure you aren't changing file names without moving the image first, I just reverted two of your edits 1 2 which added a hyphen breaking the images. All the best, Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 16:13, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

  • Thank you for fixing that mistake of mine, KatnissEverdeen, that's very kind of you! Changing file names both here and on Commons is, I'm afraid, not as straightforward as it is moving a page from a title that does not comply with the NCs, as were the case for a lot of the articles in Category:Naval guns of the United Kingdom and still is for quite a few. And if a regex then mistakenly changes a text string per MOS:HYPHEN post-move, and the mover is not alert, then he is thankful that a sharp-eyed colleague spots it afterwards. Kind regards, Sam Sailor 19:36, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Ah okay, my mistake then. I had presumed since you were moving the page that you were also trying to move the image, though clearly it was just an error on your part. No worries and it can happen to the best of us. Cheers, Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 04:51, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

  • ​Errors like the ones I made typically happen when one should have gone for a brisk walk half an hour ago: we lose focus, and make sloppy mistakes. It also highlights the inherent risks of depending on scripts for MOS corrections. It is just fine that you draw attention to this.
    Since you patrol a place like CAT:MISSFILE, would WP:DBR be a starting point of inspiration for you? One of my own favourite places to "poke around" is CAT:ALS, see the instructions at the largely forgotten WP:URA. Sam Sailor 06:17, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Hey Sam, no need to explain yourself. I fully understand how easy it is to make that kind of mistake, and have made sloppy errors several times throughout my few years on Wikipedia. To be honest, I'm not 100% certain how I stumbled upon CAT:MISSFILE, I sort of do Wiki-gnomish things most of the time and occasionally enjoy exploring new areas of Wikipedia, so I imagine I found it that way. I've never heard of WP:DBR before this, actually. Currently, it's sort of become a project between myself and fellow editor KylieTastic to help clear the backlog in CAT:MISSFILE. I actually had it down to 9 pages last night, and at the time of writing this it's about 50+, which gives you an idea how fast the category fills up. At the moment, Kylie is on a long Wikibreak due to some personal issues, so I believe I'm the only one regularly checking it (like WP:URA it's quite a forgotten category). Would love to do more, though with how busy my real-life is, my editing is unfortunately very sporadic and on-and-off. I'll sometimes make 50+ edits a day and other days I won't even have time to log on, so CAT:MISSFILE is sort of a side-project of mine at the moment along with reviewing pending changes and of course regularly checking several articles which are sort of my "comfort" articles (just meaning I'll quick check those for vandalism/unsourced content, etc if I don't have time to edit anything in-depth). Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 19:48, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

  • ​Thank you for your kind messaage. I've just had a session in MISSFILE, and we are now down to 26. Sam Sailor 19:56, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! If you ever feel inspired, we could always use more help clearing the category whenever you get the chance, especially now with Kylie gone for a while. There are eight road-related shields which I've had to specially request at WP:USRD/S/R and WP:HWY/S, so you can just ignore those as there's nothing we can do until they get around to creating them. So 18 left! All the best, Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 20:14, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

IndiGo

A wise thing would have been to edit the article/section and remove the deleted image instead of restoring multiple images of the same aircraft class. — LeoFrank  Talk 03:12, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Namaste and welcome! Sorry, the answer to your suggestion is "no", and you ought to follow WP:BRD and post on the article page, if you feel there are compelling reasons for your removal of images from the article. Here's what I can see happened:
  1. A copyright violation was spotted in Vistara in this diff, well done, and you issued a uw-copyright in the following edit.
  2. In your next edit to Vistara, here, the copyright violation is removed, that's good, and the BUNDLING is nice as well. In the department of absolute minor "transgressions" you stick both authors of the source in one |author= parameter in the citation resulting in
    |author=Aditi Shah, Jamie Freed. "Author" is singular. Common sense would suggest using either (a) the quick and dirty solution of sticking in an |author2= parameter where you have the comma, or (b) the nicer solution that only takes a few more seconds:
    |first1=Aditi |last1=Shah |first2=Jamie |last2=Freed
    The template documentation for {{Cite news}} says it quite clearly:
    author: this parameter is used to hold the complete name of a single author (first and last) or to hold the name of a corporate author. This parameter should never hold the names of more than one author.
    In an article like Vistara that is a GA, pay attention to details like this, please. Also, when an article is tagged with {{Use dmy dates|date=December 2017}} and the format is well established in both the article body text and, except for a few cases, in the citations, please do spend the extra seconds and use |accessdate=12 July 2018|date=11 July 2018| instead of |accessdate=2018-07-12|date=2018-07-11. MOS:DATEUNIFY has the details.
  3. But you forgot one major thing when you removed the copyvio. Please read the policy, identify, what you forgot, and follow up. If in doubt, return here and I'll guide you.
  4. A few hours later, you visited IndiGo, another GA. The previous edit happened to be by Krghanta, whom you had issued a uw-copyright earlier that morning. In Special:Diff/849946620 you removed the images File:IndiGo Airbus A320neo F-WWDG (to VT-ITI) (28915135713).jpg and File:DSC 3886-VT-IFE (10386595974).jpg, and you left Krghanta's upload File:Indigo_ATR_72-600.jpg in the article. Anyone who had paid close attention when visiting Krghanta's user talk as you did in Special:Diff/849896141 would have noticed that Indigo_ATR_72-600.jpg was up for WP:F7c-deletion, and by the time you edited IndiGo at 13:59 UTC, we were well beyond the two-days grace period and the file would already be listed in CAT:F7 ready to be zapped by the next admin taking a turn with the backlog. Good faith mistake, any one of us could have overlooked the details here. A script that can be helpful to avoid a situation like this is User:Anomie/linkclassifier that will add a red frame to a file nominated for deletion.
  5. What is not a good faith mistake is that you return after a 9+ hours editing break and as your first edit again remove the images with the factually flawed edit summary "same type of aircraft in all the pictures". I have inserted them again. Feel free to open a talk page discussion about your wish to remove them, but please refrain from edit war further over this.
Sam Sailor 14:55, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
@LeoFrank: I see you are more interested in continuing your edit warring on IndiGo rather than follow up on your other mistakes. Sam Sailor 15:51, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
Listen, not everyone is interested in each and every aspect of an article. I saw a copy-vio in the text, I removed it. I honestly don't focus on images as such in any article, but rather on the content more inclined to aircraft, airport and airline articles. So, in your edit summary, when your main aim was to not just remove the ATR image, but also revert my removal, you should've been clear in your edit summary rather than masquerading your edit with a summary of only the intent to remove the ATR image or at least you should've left a message on my talk page on the same if it was an honest mistake in your edit summary. Talk about mistakes.
There are situations where editors have come and added useful content or removed unsourced content or basically made some useful edit on top of a vandalism. Now, I can;t keep bickering over this since these are editors who rarely edit such articles and are trying to help. It is rather someone familiar with the content who would undo the vandalism and also retain the good faith edits. — LeoFrank  Talk 15:59, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
FYI, I edit conflicted here on your talk page. And yes, you don't have to try to think that common sense prevails only with you like you mentioned above. I may have not known about the author2 parameter, but that does not give you the right to attack in the manner above. As such the discussion here was solely related to IndiGo, I wonder why you had to bring in the edits to Vistara here. Common sense prevails. — LeoFrank  Talk 16:07, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

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Draft:Peter N. Steinmetz

Thread retitled from "Thank you for adding recently created draft (Draft:Peter N. Steinmetz) to the Articles for Creation procedure".

Hi, Sam. Thank you for helping out. Appreciate it. I can use all the help I can get from experienced editors, like you and others. Looking forward to seeing the article go through the motions ("Wikimotions"), maybe ultimately making its way to Wiki's mainspace. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tqiwiki (talk • contribs) 15:25, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

  • @Tqiwiki: You are welcome, let me know if you need help with anything. Sam Sailor 11:49, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Here's 1: Seeking guidance to get a good Visual Edit Mode resource for adding Info Boxes for a Subject (person) when starting an Article (Draft).Tqiwiki (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:09, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Just checked. Looks good. Thank you. Tqiwiki (talk) 11:32, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Sam. Someone or something just removed the photo of the subject of this article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Peter_N._Steinmetz&diff=next&oldid=849989839

I was under the impression the photo was good to go. The photo was of the subject, taken by a photographer at the photographer's studio, the copyright given to the subject, the photo being uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, without mentioning that the photographer transferred the copyright to the subject. Wondering if there's some particular protocol to be followed for uploading the photo to Wikimedia Commons that was somehow missed last time. Any idea what's going on? Please advise. Thank you.Tqiwiki (talk) 11:30, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Got it. 1st time observing, albeit remotely. Relatively new here. Multiple technicalities to appreciate. Subject matter interest. Observed photo activity via WikiMedia Commons, triggered by Watchlist alert. Thank you.Tqiwiki (talk) 21:10, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

  • @Tqiwiki: Not understood. Repeat: what is your relation to Mr. Steinmetz? Sam Sailor 21:12, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Please excuse me for that. Subject matter interest.Tqiwiki (talk) 21:19, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Hijacking!

Hi Sam. I didn't know that the Template:Uw-hijacking existed until now! Nice work. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 20:10, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, Lugnuts. And thanks for starting the essay. I've been thinking about starting one since Dec. 2015, and today was going to be the day ... only to discover that my "old" mentor beat me with 5 weeks. Have a nice evening. Sam Sailor 20:18, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
Haha, great minds! WP:HIJACK already existed, and I was tempted, to well, hijack that! Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 20:21, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
​Heh! Both essays are probably fine under their current titles. I'll try to find some of the old examples of redirect-hijacking that prompted the creation of the template. ... "Great minds" ... You know, I wake up every morning determined to win the eternal battle against procrastination; only to postpone the fight till tomorrow. ;) On a much more serious and note: did you lot solve the problem with CO2 shortage your breweries had? Sam Sailor 20:41, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
I think it's solved now, but you may now view me as the Antichrist, as I don't drink! At least we're having the first decent summer in a while... Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 04:54, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

I don't view you any different, Lugnuts. On a side note (without any gravedancing), did you notice this username change and the outcome of the situation? Sam Sailor 06:49, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Morning Sam! Hmmm, no, I didn't see that. Wow, that went south fast! Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 06:52, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Please review

Hi, please review this when you have time. Thank you! Draft:Mads Moslund — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kathrinelilholtnielsen (talk • contribs) 22:36, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Dear Kathrine, My colleague GSS has already reviewed the draft, and has correctly declined it again. I repeat what I said in my review: please do not pursue this further for the time being. Moslund has had very minor roles in two productions, and is not yet anywhere near a pass of WP:NACTOR or WP:BASIC/WP:GNG. If you want to edit about anything else, I will be happy to guide and help you. Sam Sailor 06:14, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

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A message from Buntz06

Hi Sam, I edited the Hemmingwell article to ask you a question but I forgot to log in and my IP is showing could you remove that, please? --Buntz06 (talk) 13:17, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Buntz06. I can't do it, I am not even a sysop, what you need is an editor who holds the oversight permission. The easiest way is to file at Wikipedia:Requests for oversight. Please let me know if I can help you with anything regarding editing. Sam Sailor 13:34, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Need help with editing.

Hi Sam, so I get this a lot with Wikipedia and other websites like it, what does it mean when I have made a Unsourced Edit? For example, the Hemmingwell article, if I sourced that article could it stay there without being redirected or not? Besides, could you please explain to me what sourcing is and how to do it. Thanks Mate.

-Brandon

Buntz06 (talk) 20:09, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Brandon. Wikipedia:Verifiability is one of our three core content policies: all material must be attributable to reliable, published sources. An unsourced edit is not supported by a source. Hemmingwell: could you list the five best sources, please? As for sourcing (also called referencing) please see Help:Referencing for beginners. Sam Sailor 07:24, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
But my source of information is real life so what do I do? --Buntz06 (talk) 22:32, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Brandon, again, as Wikipedia:Verifiability says "all material must be attributable to reliable, published sources." Assuming you are from Wellingborough, isn't that a good place to get you started with editing based on sources? We need a source for the 1959 "white footprint" incident – can you find one? Then we can format a citation together. Let me hear from you. Sam Sailor 06:07, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Butyrolactol A

On 4 August 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Butyrolactol A, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that butyrolactol A, a polyketide derived from Streptomyces rochei, demonstrates broad antimicrobial activity against fungi, including Candida albicans? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Butyrolactol A. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Butyrolactol A), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

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Question about short pages monitor

Hi Sam Sailor, I ran across your edit on Young Dangerous Heart where you removed the 'short pages monitor' and stated No need for monitoring. I'm not disagreeing with your edit, just trying to understand - I was under the impression that all disambiguation with only a few items should have a {{subst:long comment}}. Could you explain please? Thanks, Leschnei (talk) 13:06, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Leschnei. It is to my knowledge not a well-described corner of Wikipedia. I frequently visit Special:ShortPages, it's a good place to catch page blanking or very short new articles that need incubation in draft space. I keep a {{subst:Long comment}} rubber stamp handy for pages about or shorter than 120 bytes, cf. the template documentation, that legitimately can be left in main space, but that we want off Special:ShortPages. As you know, {{long comment}} transcludes {{short pages monitor}}, the template that puts the pages into Category:Monitored short pages and its subcats. I have never seen a WP page that deals with Monitored short pages, the closest thing that comes to documentation AFAIK is Template talk:Short pages monitor. I can't say I ever go cleaning out in Category:Long monitored short pages or any of the other sub-categories, but judging from the template talk, that seems to have been the intention. I don't know if it is suggested anywhere exactly when to remove the monitor template and the long comment, and I guess you can argue, that since the smallest category is Category:Monitored short pages length 701 to 800 then both elements should stay until the page reaches 701 bytes? In which case Young Dangerous Heart was 41 bytes too short. Let me know what you know and what you think. Sam Sailor 15:22, 10 August 2018 (UTC) P.S. I have no problem with you adding a long comment again if you wish.
Thanks for your quick and thorough reply. I started adding {{long comment}} to disambiguation pages that have only 2 or 3 items because I saw that other (more experienced) editors had done so. I had no idea that a byte 'restriction' had ever been discussed. After reading the comments at Template talk:Short pages monitor#Need to define and possibly rethink this template, I'm beginning to feel that there's not much point in adding it at all! Leschnei (talk) 20:20, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
​Maybe not. There are, from time to time, instances where a long-term regular editor will spew out a bunch of small stubs, typically bot generated genus stubs. Or astro stubs. Then "long comment" is nice to have in the tool box. Other than that ... since we got the possibility to WP:DRAFTIFY on NPP, I guess my use is limited to short DABs and soft redirects to Wiktionary. But if nobody is is patrolling those categories and cleaning them out, as TexasAndroid used to do, then I wonder if the whole concept serves any purpose. On the other hand, you are not likely to hear anybody complain if you add a long comment. This conversation is the first in 5+ years I have had with anyone about the matter, and I had to read for 30+ minutes before I replied. :-) Sam Sailor 20:41, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

I want to have my article published

The published article you moved to the draft is complete. it met all the requirement for wikipedia publishing — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fabregado (talk • contribs) 07:12, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

It did not, and you should stop moving any pages around. I have moved it back to Draft:Obinna Onyebuchi Muoma where it awaits review, and where you can continue to work on it. If you need any help, feel free to ask. Sam Sailor 07:22, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
Please Sam, help me to do the necessary things i need to publish the article Obinna Onyebuchi Muoma — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fabregado (talk • contribs) 07:48, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
Why this urgency? Sam Sailor 07:51, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
I'm sorry for any inconveniences that i may have caused, but it was a task given to me,and i needed it to prove my capability in my work place. please i appreciate your effort. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fabregado (talk • contribs) 07:57, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
In Special:Diff/854423959/854424549 your edit summary was Please i need your help on my article , do things that are needed to be done to get it published. Obinna Onyebuchi Muoma. Is it correctly understood that you are Obinna Onyebuchi Muoma? ​Sam Sailor 08:03, 11 August 2018 (UTC) Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes (~~~~)

Fabregado (talk) 08:21, 11 August 2018 (UTC)No i am not obinna onyebuchi Muoma. ok i should sign the post on talk pagesFabregado (talk) 08:21, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Fabregado (talk) 07:43, 12 August 2018 (UTC)I have not seen your response. However, For the record the article is not for me, but for a young man who has excelled in the Entertainment industry and he deserves some recognition on Wikipedia.Fabregado (talk) 07:43, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Adalberto Maria Merli

Thanks for helping me edit the page about this particular actor. Perhaps you can help me put in citations since I don't know how to do that.

By the way, how did you know that I'm Scottish? 20SS00 (talk) 19:14, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

You are welcome, 20SS00. On your Italian user talk page, you disclosed that you are Scottish. I'll gladly help you formatting citations, it's dead easy, like most other things, when you try it 10 times. Sam Sailor 19:19, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
You're welcome. Tomorrow, I'll be making changes to the page about Italian actor Cesare Barbetti. If you want, you can assist with the sourcing. 20SS00 (talk) 19:24, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
Con piaciere! Sam Sailor 19:27, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Why was a talk page nominated for deletion?

Good-faith ignorance. They thought that they were nominating the article. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:02, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, Robert McClenon, the question with its {{em}} was rhetorical. Sam Sailor 17:24, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Naim Uludoğan & Draft:Ülkü Uludoğan

Hello, what seems to be the trouble with these? I have been waiting for quite some time for a review and there has been none aside from your comment. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 09:59, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello A Certain White Cat! The drafts have not been submitted. See the grey box? Press Submit your draft for review!. Sam Sailor 10:05, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Deletion

Dear Sam

Thank you for your message. I would like to keep working on the submission. How do I actually delete those tags?

All the best — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thundertentronkh (talk • contribs) 22:08, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Thundertentronkh. It is really simple: "If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it." Sam Sailor 07:08, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Joan Does Dynasty

On 20 August 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Joan Does Dynasty, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that video artist Joan Braderman superimposed herself onto scenes from the television series Dynasty to critique the characters, plots, and themes? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Joan Does Dynasty. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Joan Does Dynasty), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Copied to User:Sam Sailor/DYK in Special:Diff/853828201/855850043. Sam Sailor 07:23, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

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Seeking article advice on: Resurrection of Christ, Proof of[[]]

Greetings Sam Sailor. I new here, no doubt. The format is foreign to my mind. I suppose its kinda like going from flying a single engine plane to a passenger plane. So the learning curve here is though, especially when I aim to cut through a tough bias out there against Christianity. So I know the writing challenges here and its all good with me. I didn't think you would approve the article and I knew there was problems with the format but still am trying to learn this format here as it is beyond what I'm used to.

So on discussion on my article which is meant to provide observable proof for the resurrection of Christ that anyone can see and verify with their own eyes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fezzilla/sandbox#Resurrection_of_Jesus_Christ,_Proof_of

I was informed the title was not original enough as Wikipedia already has the Resurrection of Christ page. I did see that page before choosing the title but thought the subject content was unique enough, dealing with modern evidence and all. But if you say a title change needs to be done then that I can do. I am also a little skeptical about referencing websites as its not my style to do that. But to keep the article simple I referenced links so anyone can click on them to see the reference. Though to be honest I'm not sure if that method goes over well here or not?

As for the subject content itself. Why not? The prophecies all nicely harmonize with well known historical events. My method of research is very scientific but my formatting skills on this particular site does, I admit, need improvement.

Please let me know what you think when you have a free moment to reply ;) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fezzilla (talk • contribs) 15:13, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

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Draft:Romanesque House in Wrocław

Hi Sam,

thank you very much for your help with the "Romanesque House in Wrocław" article. There is indeed a Polish version of this article which needs to be linked: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domek_Roma%C5%84ski_we_Wroc%C5%82awiu

I would apreaciate your help with linking it.

There is also a picture (creative common license) at Polish article that can be add there. I just felt a bit lost in the Wiki editor.

Many thanks & best regards,

Krzysztof — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krzylig (talk • contribs) 15:07, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

@Krzylig: You are welcome. We can't link while the article is in draft space, which was why I made a note about the Polish version. I added an infobox, what can I do for you to get you going? I do not speak Polish, but Google translate does an OK job. Sam Sailor 15:14, 30 August 2018 (UTC) (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.)

@Sam Sailor: Thank you again. I've just received late notifications as you anticipated my thoughts. It is all done and we just need to wait for the review. I have not used Wiki for while and felt lost. Thank you for your support. Best regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krzylig (talk • contribs) 15:28, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Vexations. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Treaty of Ulm (1326), and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

Vexations (talk) 00:00, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, something went wrong there. The page showed as unreviewed in my queue. I meant to mark as reviewed, not unreview. Vexations (talk) 00:03, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
Vexations, a belated: absolutely no problem. Best, Sam Sailor 14:47, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! from Konquetty

Hey Sam, thank you for noticing that I was creating a full blown Wikipedia page instead of my User page. It's just today I started to take contributing to Wikipedia a bit more seriously and this happened. I added the db-author thing at the top and the page is now deleted. Thanks for being that first stranger who helps you when you move to a new town! Konquetty (talk) 14:03, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

No problem at all, Konquetty, and well done with the {{db-author}} tag. I will post you a welcome message on your talk page. Sam Sailor 14:44, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

War in Afghanistan order of battle, 2012

Yes, thanks Hmains (talk) 23:53, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Dato star horse

I made another wiki on horse Dato star. Can you make it like you did with Waiting Patiently if you have time. Cheers Bob515678 (talk) 11:55, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, Bob515678, but right now I have a few other things on my plate. I tried to draftify Dato Star, only to realize that you started Draft:Dato Star a week ago. There is really no hurry here with getting pages into main space. And we do not get bonus points for the number of articles we create. That said, you are always welcome here if you need a helping hand with anything. Happy editing. Sam Sailor 12:02, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
You dont have to now just if you have time and you can delete the draft if you want please. Bob515678 (talk) 12:20, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
And how do i get waiting patiently to come up when i type his name and can you get a picture of the horse to put on the article Bob515678 (talk) 12:25, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
I added the info it just hasnt come up like the waiting paitently one if you have a look at the dato star one Bob515678 (talk) 14:45, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

COIN FYI

WP:COIN#Asim Duttaroy Kendall-K1 (talk) 01:32, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Kendall-K1, Why was I summoned? Sam Sailor 01:35, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, I guess that was pretty terse. You had given this editor a COI warning a couple years ago, which he apparently ignored because he is now at COIN. See User talk:Arnabcricket1989#June 2016. Just an FYI, no action required on your part. Kendall-K1 (talk) 01:39, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, Kendall-K1, I will look into this tomorrow. Best, Sam Sailor 01:54, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

A message from Larasam93

Larasam93 (talk) 21:05, 4 September 2018 (UTC) Sir, I have published a Wikipedia page about one of my favorite singer and its in the following link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Sheera_Jasvir and the request to publish was declined due to page being not sourced. So i have edited it to be more sourced and i need to know whether its ok now or not. Thank you very much sir.

Another reviewer will have a look at the draft sooner or later. Sam Sailor 21:09, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Driving Simulator Page Edits

Hello Sam,

I saw that you cleaned up the little mess I made trying to add an image.

Thanks.

Yesterday, beginners luck day, I successfully added to the driving simulator page the image called "truck sim virage", one of the two images that I had uploaded to wiki commons. Today I tried unsuccessfully to add the second image "car sim virage".

I do not know what I did differently but I received a Permission error.

Please advise.

DriverSafety (talk) 19:01, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi DriverSafety. Second file now fixed, have a look at Driving simulator. Your sandbox is a good place to test the edits you plan to do in articles, see also Help:My sandbox. When you edit articles, do please use the preview function, see Help:Show preview. Anything I can do for you, just ask. Happy editing, Sam Sailor 07:43, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Hello again Sam,
Great job fixing my attempts to edit. Much appreciated. The same page has a section on Simulator Sickness that has no references. I coauthored a chapter on that subject for a text book. I could summarize the high points of that chapter and give a single reference that would lead to all the other references. Reducing 14 pages down to one of two would be a challenge but it might be worthwhile. What do you think? DriverSafety (talk) 19:21, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Hi DriverSafety. I would advice against using a book where you have co-authored a chapter as a source for two reasons, (a) there may be risk of connecting you online identity with your real life identity, and (b) depending on who edited and published the book it may fall under WP:SPS. On the other hand, it may not fall under SPS, it all depends ... I'd be happy to help you format nice {{cite book}}s for the references you know, just dump a list of URLs here. Sam Sailor 10:59, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Adminship

Hi Sam Sailor. Do you ever think about becoming an admin? Accesscrawl (talk) 12:29, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

@Accesscrawl: I can't claim I have a need for the mop, technically or otherwise. There are plenty of things to do that don't require the extra bits. Sam Sailor 12:43, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
I see. Accesscrawl (talk) 13:35, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
You didnt need the mop for the Indonesian killings mess cleanup - which I must say thankyou!! JarrahTree 23:45, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
JarrahTree, happy to help. (Terrible story, I've just copy-edited the article a bit.) Sam Sailor 23:53, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
my wife and I did our separate fieldwork ventures in an area where it was quite bad - the less said the better in one sense JarrahTree 23:55, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
Agh, I was just about to ask him this very question... foiled again! GABgab 17:12, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

(←) ​Thank you, GAB, and good to see you back. Sam Sailor 18:54, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Lena Bergman

Hi Sam. Hope you're well. I don't know if you can help with this AfD in any way? I think maybe my comment for redirect would be the best, but if you have a spare minute to take a look, I'd be grateful. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 17:23, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

@Lugnuts: Thanks for dropping by, hope you are well too. It is a classical example of something that could just have been redirected per WP:ATD-R, few would likely have noticed and objected. She does not meet NACTOR, the question is if sources are available to expand and make a decent little article that meets BASIC. I will look into that tomorrow. Sam Sailor 19:32, 19 September 2018 (UTC) P.S. Could be handy from time to time if you had email enabled.
Thanks for your help with this. Haha, yes, my email. It was something I was thinking about only the other day. I will look into that! Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 19:44, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Well, at least enable it and drop me a line, and then disable it. I remember that user who claimed that you had send him death treats in reply to an email he had send you ... "wait a min, Lugnuts has not enabled email!" Indef Sam Sailor 19:50, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Lugnuts, you maybe did not get the above message, but if you would mail me, that would be great. Cheers, Sam Sailor 21:15, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Now that is a good memory! And in an electronic voice: You've. Got. Mail. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 07:04, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Your vector.js page

Hi, I'm not sure what you've done but you've managed to add your vector.js page to the category of pages requiring RevDel for copyvio reasons. I suspect it might be because you have used {{Copyvio-revdel}} in a comment and the software is picking it up as a transclusion of the template. Nthep (talk) 21:35, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi Nthep, you are right. It has now been fixed, thank you for making me aware of it. Sam Sailor 05:28, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Talk:7th World Scout Jamboree

When something "goes on article page", please put it there, rather than just removing it from the talkpage.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 16:46, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

In this case, no. When I removed {{Expand German|7. World Scout Jamboree 1951|date=March 2009}} from Talk:7th World Scout Jamboree (diff), where it was initially added in 2008, almost 10 years ago, and where it has erroneously been allowed to remain for years, cf. the template documentation at Template:Expand language/howto, I reviewed de:7. World Scout Jamboree 1951 (permalink, 219 words) and compared it with 7th World Scout Jamboree (permalink, 617 words), and found that little of substance and nothing properly sourced remains to be translated.
I notice that the template was previously removed twice from the talk page in 2009 by Calliopejen1 (diff and diff), but that you added it again in Special:Diff/271377719/271463415 and Special:Diff/271608275/271753935.
You have previously translated text from the German article. Google Translate offers a decent machine translation these days, and I suggest you translate those parts you find are missing in our article. Should you need help in that regard, do not hesitate to post here or on Talk:7th World Scout Jamboree , and I will be happy to help. Sam Sailor 11:47, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Some falafel for you!

Thank you for your Belated Welcome to Wiki message and invitation to TWA. It was quite helpful and I had fun completing it (and learned a thing or two as well). My good wishes to you, kind stranger. chaos1618 (talk) 10:44, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
@Chaos1618: Thank you, that is very kind. Namaste, Sam Sailor 11:12, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Amber Lake (microarchitecture)

Why not use the anchor? It's more stable than the section heading. — Pizzahut2 (talk) 14:53, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

@Pizzahut2: Absolutely. Apparently Sagittarius can't read the HTML anchor and reports an error at the redirect. Allow me to try and see if it likes {{anchor}} any better. Hang on. Sam Sailor 15:04, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
Done. Thanks for making me aware of this. Sam Sailor 15:11, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Months of African Cinema!

Greetings!

The AfroCine Project welcomes you to October, the first out of the two months which has been dedicated to improving contents that centre around the cinema of Africa, the Caribbean, and the diaspora.

This is a global online edit-a-thon, which is happening in at least 5 language editions of Wikipedia, including the English Wikipedia! Join us in this exciting venture, by helping to create or expand articles which are connected to this scope. Also remember to list your name under the participants section, if you haven't done so already.

On English Wikipedia, we would be recognizing Users who are able to achieve the following:

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Thanks...

... for reviewing and categorising so many IATA code redirect pages. Airbornemihir (talk) 14:31, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

You are welcome. Sam Sailor 16:44, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks from NPP

The New Page Patroller's Barnstar

Thanks for your recent work reviewing new articles and redirects. Cheers, — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 16:49, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
@Insertcleverphrasehere: I'm doing next to nothing. It should be me and a crowd of other editors that came to your talk page and thanked you for the many hours you have spend with NPP. And your resilience to several knee jerk remarks along the way did not go unnoticed. Keep it up, friend! Sam Sailor 16:53, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

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Draft:Naim Uludoğan & Draft:Ülkü Uludoğan

Hey, just so you know, I have taken the action you suggested. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 21:21, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

@とある白い猫/18: Thanks for letting me know, I have added a bit to both drafts. Best, Sam Sailor 08:47, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Adding {{r from drafts}} to Sagittarius

Hi Sam Sailor! I added Sagittarius to my .js page, and whilst it is extremely useful, would you be so kind as to add {{r from drafts}}, a template I discovered recently, to the aforementioned script, apparently the template populates Category:Redirects from drafts. Regards, SshibumXZ (talk · contribs). 17:39, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

@SshibumXZ: {{R from drafts}} (not categorised in Category:Redirect templates) as well as Category:Redirects from drafts was created less than a month ago by UnitedStatesian. I can't see that the cat has been discussed anywhere prior to creation, it is not included in WP:TMR or in {{R template index}}, and I think it would be a good idea to get broader input at e.g. Wikipedia talk:Template messages/Redirect pages from other users. Courtesy ping Paine Ellsworth who tends to be interested in these matters. Sam Sailor 18:13, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
Sam Sailor, yeah, no problem, that makes perfect sense. Regards, SshibumXZ (talk · contribs). 18:19, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
Hi Sam and SshibumXZ – this is all for the most part still in its early stages, for example, drafts are also created in user space, and I want to make the new rcat work for those as well. That and making {{R from drafts}} and {{R with draft}} more in line with {{R to draft namespace}} (and adding the first two to the indexes) are on my to-do list. I'm unaware of any centralized discussion on this; however, I've seen talks on related subjects on individual talk pages. Editors are still finding needs and trying to fill them. Shall try to organize these soon.  Paine Ellsworth  put'r there  20:54, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

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