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Blake[edit]

Hey, you're lighting up my watchlist with this! Seriously though - what an exciting opportunity! I've had The Marriage of Heaven and Hell on my to-do list for ages, so if I'm around editing this summer, count me in! Hope all is well (it seems to be!). Take care. Truthkeeper (talk) 23:31, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Brilliant! I was hoping I could count on you to support. I will be probing for members in the coming months, and starting arranging some events and activities this summer, so I will keep you in mind. Sadads (talk) 23:44, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation Accepted[edit]

Would love to join the Blake task force. In your invitation you mentioned my various edits as expressing an interest in Blake. Did you notice my user-page notes I did my Master's Thesis on Blake. The Master's Thesis is online at the Swedenborg House of Studies website, though I'm not sure if that elevates it to WP's criterion of being a citable source. (They requested to post it online because they liked it's high quality.) For what it's worth, it is here. [1] --WickerGuy (talk) 19:48, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Blake[edit]

Hello again Sadads. Was wondering if we could extend the scope of the project to include the miniatures. Ive done some work on these before, but they are difficult, this project might give an excuse to go back and coolab always leads to the best results, its the great thing about this place. Ceoil (talk) 12:23, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Are you referring to the miniature portraits? They certainly seem within scope, but it doesn't look like the blake archive has any of them in the collection. So events, etc. will likely not focus on those. Do we already have articles for them? Should we create a category about those portraits on Wikipedia beyond commons? Sadads (talk) 15:27, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Here you go [2] as examples. This where I have interest. Good work so far and kudos.Ceoil (talk) 15:35, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
They have a great collection of those illustrations and their annotations are quite extensive, we can definitely work with those! I would definitely like to see an article written at William Blake's illustrations of The Divine Comedy, Sadads (talk) 15:51, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I would be willing to work on an article for William Blake's illustrations of The Divine Comedy. I began writing an outline of it years ago after working on William Blake's Illustrations of the Book of Job, William Blake's illustrations of On the Morning of Christ's Nativity, and William Blake's illustrations of Paradise Lost, but never really started it when real life intervened. Hopefully I can find the time now. Lithoderm 01:49, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That sounds great! I will follow up, and start doing some further assessment of materials and support in a month or two. I have to finish out my semester and recover from that before I really get things rolling with the Blake. We have one Blake scholar in house at K-State and I will be presenting to the editorial board about the GLAM project in June, so expect things to start ramping up around then :) Sadads (talk) 13:46, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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You are invited to the "All Things GW" editathon on Saturday, April 20[edit]

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DC meetups on April 19 and 20[edit]

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Cornet Castle[edit]

Wikihounding "Wikihounding is the singling out of one or more editors, and joining discussions on multiple pages or topics they may edit or multiple debates where they contribute, in order to repeatedly confront or inhibit their work. This is with an apparent aim of creating irritation, annoyance or distress to the other editor. Wikihounding usually involves following the target from place to place on Wikipedia."

We may disagree on the "Cornet Castle" but the history clearly shows you followed me and went to my pages and undid them. The time stamp of the history shows my edits in minutes without even having the time to research the cited work and look at the edits.

In one of your attacks on me was an edit I did on the College of Lake County, you stated,

"I removed the information from College_of_Lake_County because much of the information presented does direct individuals towards specific sources (see WP:Reliable sources ). Why don't you try getting some help from the WP:Teahouse which you have a link to at the top of the page? They can walk you through the best practices on Wikipedia, Sadads (talk) 20:31, 16 April 2013 (UTC)"[reply]

I cited that own College's website? So a College is not a creditable source?

It clearly shows that... #1with the edit history times you could not have had time to even verify the information, #2 you have been following me and undoing all my edits, and #3 you are just making up stories so you don't look bad (College of Lake County example above)

I ask that you stop hounding me, this would also include enlisting your college friends to hound me, and lets just move on and forget each other. I have not reported this as I would like to try to resolve this between ourselves. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patrickdene (talk • contribs) 03:07, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You will not be surprised to hear that this was all nonsense; he was adding misinformation as preparation for a sockpuppet to post two hoax articles George I, King of Guernsey and House of Cornet. See WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Patrickdene. JohnCD (talk) 11:22, 20 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Scope[edit]

Hey, thanks for adding that sentence, do you think we need more of a "lead" for the list? Keilana|Parlez ici 17:58, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Responded in edit summary, Sadads (talk)

A favor -Environmental law articles ready for preliminary review[edit]

Hi Sadads. I see that you're an online ambassador. I'm the Professor for Aaron Frank's environmental law class, and while you're not signed up for my course, I was wondering if you'd be willing to take a look at any or all of the articles my students are working on. One of the aspects of this sort of course is that students understand that they are putting their work out before the wikipedia community for review. In the past, there hasn't been that much activity on their pages as they were working on them. I was hoping that if you were willing, you could take a look. If not, no problem.

The students now have draft articles in mainspace and are starting to review each other's articles, and they could also use a preliminary review by an experienced Wikipedian in this area. If you get a chance, ideally sometime before Thursday or so, please take a look at the following list of articles and leave feedback on the talk page:

Thank you! Aarf613 (talk) 17:18, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

User:Aaarf613. Unfortunately, I am in the middle of grading a batch of papers for my own students, but can try to do the last two articles sometime in the next two days. I would recommend poking some more people as well! Sadads (talk) 18:20, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Sadads! I see that you've given some feedback to the students. This is very helpful. Not only do they need the feedback, but just letting them know that others from the wikipedia community are reading and reviewing their articles will up the stakes and remind them that what they are writing will be read by others. Aarf613 (talk) 05:23, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for staying engaged User:Aarf613! I will try to do one or more today, but time has been a little tight. Just, fyi, Hazardous Materials Transportation Act page doesn't have a whole lot in the way of material relevant to individuals who don't need to handle law compliance. Generally, many of the other articles have a similar problem (though not as extremely). You may want to remind the class that even though we need careful negotiation of these technical law details, the greatest impact of their work on people will be if they focus their writing on a public audience who may not have to comply with the law and want to know how that law effects their community and environment through examples and subsequent research. Anyway, I hope the rest of the semester ends well, and it looks like it has been a great class!Sadads (talk) 12:47, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Novels[edit]

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This Month in GLAM in April in the USA[edit]

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input welcome[edit]

to an epic categorization discussion happening over at Talk:Ernest_Hemingway#Proposal. It's unlike anything you've ever seen... :) --Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 02:55, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I know it, we had a conversation like that when I first diffused Category:American novels (see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Archive_15#Category:American_novels. It was basically the same conversation as the one you had to negotiate with American novelists after the whole NYT blog. I purposely avoided all those conversations, partially per [3], and other concerns with the whole premise of the novelist conversation. Being someone who enjoys categorization, I have also learned that there are different types of contributors with different senses of the representativeness and "truthiness" of categories. In regards to your own conversation, TK is an excellent contributor and well versed scholar, so it is important to keep her in the conversations towards consensus. Rule of thumb/lesson learned: TK is really the expert on the articles she writes, and she does a good job curating them, so no sense in poking too hard, everything is a work in progress anyway and we have a massive deficit of problems going on in the literary categorization that might benefit more from that time. Currently I am in the middle of finals and final paper grading, but come a week or so from now, I would gladly help in any diffusion efforts that come up, keep me informed, Sadads (talk) 03:16, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers, thanks for the advice. --Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 04:43, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposal at TAFI talk[edit]

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Everything Tastes Better with Bacon[edit]

Hi there, Sadads, I hope you're doing well! :)

You previously participated in an FAC for Everything Tastes Better with Bacon.

It's subsequently had additional copy-editing through Guild of Copy Editors and a once-over by FA Writer Tim Riley.

I've nominated it for consideration a 2nd time at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Everything Tastes Better with Bacon/archive2.

Your input would be appreciated, at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Everything Tastes Better with Bacon/archive2.

Thank you for your time, — Cirt (talk) 19:17, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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This Month in GLAM: May in the USA[edit]

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Image requests and FAC[edit]

Hi Sadads,

I hope life has been going well for you since the GLAM Boot Camp. Do I remember correctly that you mentioned a form letter you had prepared that had proven successful in convincing people to release images to the public domain or under Creative Commons licences? If so, would you be willing to send me a copy of that form letter?

Also, thank you for your edit on the When God Writes Your Love Story article. I have nominated the article for featured status here. I thought that, as one of only three users who have edited the article, you should be notified of the featured article candidacy. Any contributions you are willing to provide in the discussion would be greatly appreciated.

Neelix (talk) 12:46, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey User:Neelix, sorry it took so long ot get back: last couple weeks have been on and off vacation and work :P I don't think I mentioned a form letter. I would recommend getting on the cultural partners list through the request at Outreach and ask there. I am sure plenty of other people have that kind of resource together.

As for the FAC, I will try taking a look at it in the near future if I can find tim. I do a lot with lit, so hopefully I can help :D Sadads (talk) 18:35, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your comments on the FAC. I have made changes to the article accordingly and have responded on the FAC page. Neelix (talk) 15:35, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry Neelix,I started my feedback but didn't finish. Will definitely do some more today, Sadads (talk) 15:54, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you again for your feedback. I have made more alterations according to your recommendations. Neelix (talk) 15:20, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I hope you had a good wikivacation these past couple weeks. I noticed you were back and figured that I would ping you on this discussion; no one has commented for some time now, and I'm afraid that the FAC will fail simply out of lack of discussion. Any comments there would be much appreciated, although I understand if you have too many other things on your schedule. Neelix (talk) 19:48, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Because you participated in the FAC for the When God Writes Your Love Story article, I thought that you should be notified of the article's current featured article review. Any constructive comments you would be willing to provide there would be greatly appreciated. Neelix (talk) 19:41, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The Bugle: Issue LXXXVIII, July 2013[edit]

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Me da ase!!![edit]

My heading means Thank You in Fante dialect, very grateful for recognizing my work. God bless. CrossTempleJay  → talk 10:03, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kellie Loder[edit]

Hi Sadads,

Thank you very much for your helpful review of the When God Writes Your Love Story article. I have submitted another article for featured status: the Kellie Loder article. Any comments you would be willing to provide at the FAC would be greatly appreciated.

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Visionary Heads[edit]

Here is something new:

Yours, Dmitrismirnov (talk) 17:23, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Brilliant@Dmitrismirnov:! And thank you for adding information to Wikipedia:Blake#Content_developed! I will keep an eye on the article and probably help polish it up! Are you going to push it through WP:DYK as well? It would be great if you did! Sadads (talk) 13:18, 25 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for help with this. I didn't finish the article yet. About WP:DYK I am unaware. You coud do it for me if you think it is appropriate. Regards, Dmitrismirnov (talk) 13:29, 25 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Will do. In a day or two I will nominate! Sadads (talk) 13:49, 25 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The article is completed. It would by great to check my usage of English - this is my second language, and my grammar is far from perfection. Dmitrismirnov (talk) 00:42, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good @Dmitrismirnov:! I will make sure to do a thorough look at the article, and do some more cleanup on it Tuesday/Weds, and ensure that it gets nominated for DYK in the coming days! Sadads (talk) 01:46, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your corrections. They are really good. Dmitrismirnov (talk) 08:12, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep it up @Dmitrismirnov:! It would be great to see more content like this. And if you want to document other Blake related work that you do on other languages on the WP:Blake page, that would be great too, Sadads (talk) 16:23, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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re: your blog post[edit]

I noticed in your blog post that you were asking where that community map came from. Damian Finol (Wikimedian from Venezuela) and I made it as part of a now-defunct undertaking called the Contribution Taxonomy Project. I really should do an updated version of the graphic... Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 04:11, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @StevenWMF:, I will make sure I put an image credit in their on the blog. I hope you found the rest interesting! Sadads (talk) 13:28, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

William Blake on Wikisource.org[edit]

I enjoy reading your blog on the progress you are making via the GLAM-Wiki program. I would be interested to hear your thoughts on the materials by William Blake on Wikisource. How are these texts viewed from the academic world? Are they complete and accurate? Keep up the great work! - DutchTreat (talk) 11:41, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the feedback/thoughts @DutchTreat:. First disclaimer, my background is not in Blake. However,here's the way it has been explained to me by my internship advisor from the archive: most of Blake's art has been through multiple printings and that both across and within printings there has been multiple changes in text and image. Thus any serious study of Blake requires a survey of extant copies, and the changes that happen (kindof like Whitman's Leaves of Grass). Also, Blake's illustrations add additional meaning or understanding to the poems. The William Blake Archive was started for these two reasons to allow high quality comparison of textual changes and visuals, and other sources of Blake's materials don't exactly provide this opportunity. Currently on Wikisource, we reduce the poems down to one copy without the image, thus weakening their quality and impact. That being said, if on Wikisource, we created image galleries to accompany the poems with images from the extent versions and footnotes on the changes between editions (references for which are available on the website for the Blake Archive), I think it would be much closer to the academic sense of how they should be studied. If you would like to corral some people to work on this, it would be great to have some more impact in other projects as part of my internship! Sadads (talk) 13:40, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting perspective. I can see why a Blake scholar may not use WS. Did you know about the Index and Page namespaces of WS? wikisource:en:Index:Father's_memoirs_of_his_child.djvu They do provide a side-by-side view of text with the original scans. For the general public, this might be another angle for promoting Blake's mastery. - DutchTreat (talk) 11:37, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Speaking of mastery of primary sources@DutchTreat:, User:Dmitrismirnov has been producing some very well done annotation and transcription of Blake Manuscripts listed at Wikipedia:Blake#Wikisource! Sadads (talk) 21:20, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Kudos to User:Dmitrismirnov. Nice work! Thanks for the pointer. I didn't realize there was such a project. Each day is a new day. - DutchTreat (talk) 09:52, 11 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Would you like to OA for a Molecular Biology course project?[edit]

Hi,

I and User:Keilana are OAs for this course project. Another professor, teaching another section of the same course, has just decided that she would also like to run this Wikipedia project. This is very last minute -- the course officially starts tomorrow. But as you can see, the course page is already thoroughly documented and very detailed, and so the role you would play would be as a mentor and guide for editing, and as a reviewer for articles as they are written.

Would you be able to help with this? If so, could you please let us know as soon as possible? I will be setting up the new section's course page this evening. Thanks! Klortho (talk) 20:20, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Klortho:, unfortunately I don't think I will be able to help this semester. I am doing both Online and Campus Ambassador work for at least one, if not two classes this semester, and am running a GLAM project (WP:Blake). For right now, I think I have maxed out my Wikipedia time capacity, Sadads (talk) 02:54, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That's okay, thanks, and good luck with your projects! Klortho (talk) 12:36, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for Visionary Heads[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Dear Sadads, thanks for the nomination. I have been approached by one strict lady who explained me that everything is wrong in the article (see here Talk:Visionary Heads and on my talk page). I understand that her advices have some reasonable common sense, but I am afraid the all my attempts to follow her ideas will make the article worse. Could you please look at it and help me to sort it out? Thank you in advance. Dmitrismirnov (talk) 18:19, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hey @Dmitrismirnov:. Generally, on English Wikipedia we try to move towards paraphrasing over quotation, because of our role as a tertiary material ( see Wikipedia:Quotations). Minimizing quotations or keeping them brief allow us to avoid plagiarism and copyright violations (generally quoting whole paragraphs can fall in that realm). I left a response at the talk page and suggested that Amandajm do some revision, and we can always reinsert some of the language that is important from the sources. Especially for the Gilchrest, I think some of the longer quotations is appropriate, but not two whole paragraphs, Sadads (talk) 21:28, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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In this video I used one image from the Blake Archive[edit]

Guess which one... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY63PrEwMgk Dmitrismirnov (talk)

@Dmitrismirnov: those songs are awesome! Very exciting! Have you thought about putting some of the recordings as video illustration for Wikimedia pages? It would require exploring the free licensing issues, but they would make awesome additions to the mostly textual elements that we use on Wikipedia, Sadads (talk) 03:38, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Blake*[edit]

It doesn't show so much in my edits, perhaps, but I'm quite a Blake fan. I'll fill in Richard Alfred Davenport right now; when I did William Paulet Carey a little while ago there was an interesting Blake angle. Charles Matthews (talk) 18:07, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Charles Matthews: Brilliant! I would love to see such a respected and prolific Wikipedian participating in WP:Blake! (It would be great to have you on the list of contributors there, so when I run a content drive starting during the middle of the month, I can keep you informed!) The Blake Archive is interested in encouraging deeper exploration of Blake, and the larger cultural context around his work. If you find you need help, or would like feedback, I would be more then happy to help! Do you have any contacts at the Fitzwilliam Museum? I would love to hold a Blake editathon or two in the UK (possibly the British Library as well), and the Fitzwilliam's holdings are pretty extensive. If you are looking for something to encourage them with commons:Category:Fitzwilliam Museum has quite a few images already, Sadads (talk) 18:39, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've signed up now. I'm unusually busy in the next six weeks, with work for WMUK, and the Wikipedia Society in Cambridge University in early October. But I'll see what I can do. Charles Matthews (talk) 18:48, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Brilliant! Don't feel to pressured to do it right away. I have also poked @Andrew Gray: about possibly leveraging contacts at the British Library for a similar event. Maybe if we could try to do one in the Fall and one in the Spring that would be awesome! But again, no rush. I will be affiliated with the Archive through at least the Spring through our DH professor at K-State, Sadads (talk) 18:58, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Notebook of William Blake[edit]

The article is more or less completed. Could you check my spelling and grammar, please? If you have some ideas how to refine on the article, it would be great. Thanks! Dmitrismirnov (talk) 12:31, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nice cup of tea.[edit]

Hi Sadads; and thanks for the nice cup of tea. Was it Assam tea? My own literature studies in fiction are in Cormac McCarthy and Thomas Pynchon. One quick question, I went to the book page for "Blood Meridian" and there was some exchange over if McCarthy's "Evening Redness of the Sun" is close to "Morning Redness of the Sun" by Jacob Boehme. McCarthy is a fan of Jacob Boehme and I was wondering if you could explain what was happening there, or maybe how to participate or otherwise? AutoJellinek (talk) 23:36, 3 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@AutoJellinek: Glad you enjoyed the tea! I imagine it might have been an Assam tea but I also am very partial to Oolong, so depending on my mood at the time, I could imagine it was either one of those. As regards the discussion at Blood_Meridian#Gnosticism, I believe its simply a matter of WP:Verifiability, where some previous author of the Wikipedia article found research that supported a discussion of this particular thematic element, and decided to spend considerable space with that idea. Remember, Wikipedia's articles are supposed to thoroughly survey available scholarship. Hope that answers your question, I don't know much about Blood Meridian or Boehme, Sadads (talk) 14:52, 4 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just a short update. My thoughts were for possibly doing a short wiki page for the portrayal of minorities in American Art from the 17th Century to the 21st Century, on a basic outline of century-to-century, at first, limiting to major works of art and going up to at least Basquiat. Any interest in possibly joining in such an attempt? AutoJellinek (talk) 17:22, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Account Creator[edit]

I want account creation for Wikipedia:WikiProject Poetry/William Blake/KSU Editathon, so I can help attendees register if we go over the limit per IP. (Hoping we dont), Sadads (talk) 22:03, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Sadads, I've seen your request for access to the account creation interface but, it seems you are asking for the account creator bit this is already included in the Admin tool set. If you want to help at Wikipedia account creations, we welcome the help. Please clarify your request and we will be glad to help if needed. Mlpearc (powwow) 03:00, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
@Mlpearc: That was a typo on my part: I would like access to the interface in order to be able to create accounts if it comes to that tomorrow. I don't imagine helping there anytime in the near future, except during the event tomorrow, Sadads (talk) 03:11, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately All users given access to the interface must be identified which most likely will not happen by tomorrow. If you find that you need help tomorrow, the account creation team can be reached here: #wikipedia-en-accounts-unreg connect. Cheers, Mlpearc (powwow) 03:27, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That works just as well. Hopefully someone will be around tomorrow. Thanks much :) Sadads (talk) 03:28, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar[edit]

The Special Barnstar
For the creation of the William Blake task force and the extraordinary amount of work you're putting into it. Bertaut (talk) 00:32, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Why thank you @Bertaut:! I am trying my best, definitely trying to help improve the Blake' content, and I don't think nearly as much would have been done without the help of User:Dmitrismirnov. He has been driving alot of the volunteer content creation! Sadads (talk) 00:45, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome, and yeah, I know about Dmitrismirnov, I gave him a barnstar too! Between the two of you, you're really doing an amazing job. When I first started looking at Blake material on here, I was shocked at how poor the coverage was. I did what I could at the time, which involved creating All Religions are One and There is No Natural Religion (I couldn't believe articles didn't exist for them), and expanding Poetical Sketches, An Island in the Moon and Tiriel. I also uploaded a few images to Wikicommons. But that was it. I did plan on continuing, and was about half way through a complete overhaul of The Marriage of Heaven and Hell and drafts for both Joseph of Arimathea among the Rocks of Albion and The Approach of Doom, but life got in the way, and I haven't been able to get back to it as of yet. Nevertheless, it's really great to see the expansion that's happening at the moment, especially the involvement with the William Blake Archive (what a great site that is!). Bertaut (talk) 00:55, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I kindof stumbled onto involvement with the Archive because one of the editors is here at my graduate program. He is setting up a Digital Humanities center, and DH internships and is using me as a test case. Generally, my research is in 20th century British fiction, but am finding a lot of interesting nuance in Blake materials. Am I learning alot! Speaking of big gaps in scholarship on Wikipedia: check out Template:James Fenimore Cooper. One of the most studied American authors of the 20th century, and less then a third of his works covered! This is why I have been active with WP:WEP and WP:GLAM. They give me venues to farm important academic subject out onto other people :P
Anyway, hope you get opportunities to work on the drafts and publish them. If you already have something together, it would be important just to move it into mainspace to get more attention and feedback (If their long enough, I can run them through WP:DYK as well). Remember, Wikipedia is a work in progress! Anyway, hope to see you around more, and if you need any academic resources or review/editing just let me know. I have some time opening up in a couple weeks, Sadads (talk) 01:09, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The Voice of the Ancient Bard[edit]

I expanded the article. Please have a look. Dmitrismirnov (talk) 23:34, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hope you are all right. I have not heard from you for a long. Somebody is unhappy with my work again, despite I worked quite hard. See here: Talk:The Mental Traveller Dmitrismirnov (talk) 16:15, 20 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hey @Dmitrismirnov: ! Sorry its been a while, I have been on one of those work/life/emotional rollercoasters that only grad school can bring :) Sorry it's been a while, I responded at Talk:The_Mental_Traveller#Revision. I think in some ways its just a matter of improving the organization of the research and materials, not necessarily getting rid of it or removing it! Keep up the good work, I am seeing it and appreciate it! :) Sadads (talk) 03:00, 25 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikimedia LGBT[edit]

Hi Sadads, I hope you have been well since we met at GLAM Boot Camp in DC! I just wanted to bring Wikimedia LGBT, a proposed user group and thematic organization that promotes the development of content on Wikimedia projects which is of interest to LGBT communities, to your attention. I am sure you are so busy with your current projects, but I hope you might be able to direct people to this group if they are interested in LGBT content in any way. Of course, you are also more than welcome to indicate your interest/support, if you wish. Hopefully we can get some LGBT-related GLAM/Education/etc. projects up and running in the near future. Best, --Another Believer (Talk) 20:19, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Another Believer:! That sounds like a great project. In general, I am interested in helping drum up support for editing and contributing to humanities conversations on Wikipedia, especially those working with gender and sexuality (part of my academic research is in masculinities). I am a bit overwhelmed on projects right now, but will definitely will keep it mind that you are helping coordinate it, if I run into anyone interested in Digital Humanities and LGBT issues. If you are looking for academic allies I would suggest probing groups like HASTAC (http://www.hastac.org/tag/lgbt) for people involved in digital humanities and LGBT issues. You might also talk to User:Awadewit. She is much more plugged into gender and sexuality studies communities, and has a lot of connections to the DH communities as well. Is there a email list for updates on the project? I wouldn't mind being on that, though I don't think I will be actively involved, Sadads (talk) 20:37, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Also, might be worth reaching out to people in communities that support conferences like this, Sadads (talk) 20:38, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Sadads. I will ping Awadewit as well. Here is the LGBT mailing list. Feel free to add your name to the list of supporters (if you want), even if you support the project in theory more than in practice, in case we distribute newsletters via talk pages in the future. Thanks again! --Another Believer (Talk)

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Your project[edit]

You wrote on Victoria's page - "I am doing my best to create opportunities for them [students] not to be disappointed by a clearly superior article suddenly appearing where theirs should go". Can you explain clearly what you mean by this and what you see as the implications for wiki generally and standards of sourcing specifically. Ceoil (talk) 03:20, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Ceoil:, I am sorry if that is unclear and it took me so long to respond (life is chaos right now with PhD Applications, teaching and this project). I am helping the students develop articles per The Education Programs curriculum which introduces them to verifiability and notability, etc. I was only asking that their not be an article created before theirs create a foundation; previous articles from the Education Program, have often been revised or improved per the normal Wikipedia process. Waiting for their early version prevents major disappointment of them as new editors, and by asking for Victoria and others to hold off on those particular articles, just prevents a duplication of effort :P I wasn't implying that they will create anything better or it shouldn't be revised. Does that answer your concern? Sadads (talk) 23:12, 16 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Not exacly. "and by asking for Victoria and others to hold off on those particular articles, just prevents a duplication of effort". Think more about that, and are you aware of the headaces across wiki that poorly but enthustically run projects of this type cause for those that have to clean up after. That you by-passed the question of sources componds worries I have. That it took you so long to respond makes it worse, and is another warning sign. Ceoil (talk) 23:16, 16 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your concern @Ceoil:, I don't think I bypassed your question. Per your concerns, I am spending most of my time reviewing content, and cleaning up and organizing material contributed by others, rather then direct writing of content right now. I have always been (primarily) a clean-upper and outreach oriented contributor rather then a content creator (though I have a fair bit of that too), and try not to create problems that will only have to be cleaned up later. That being said, I have always operated from the idea that Wikipedia is always a work in progress, so clean up is a natural part of the project. Also, I am trying to cultivate new users, which also means that we will have new user mistakes and problems (such as some CopyVio from Dministrinov for a few articles).
Per the earlier edit: I have never had a direct relationship with the WMF. Rather most of my work has been as an enthusiastic outreach volunteer for both WP:GLAM and WP:WEP, both of which I have been trained in through WMF funding for attending events (GLAM through a grant to Wikimedia DC, the Education program per the initial Public Policy initiative, and a scholarship for the Wikimania Haifa). That was entirely a scholarship type situation though. Any other connections I have to the foundation are purely casual in that I know people from those projects, and those have lapsed since I have been in grad school, Sadads (talk) 23:34, 16 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You've not directly answered any of my questions, so, look, I dont care about your wiki "career", just your ability and grasp of clue, but now disillusioned and done here. Well not quite as you'll continute regardless. You think that the lot of the lowly incumbant Blake editor is to clean up after people like you; "I have always operated from the idea that Wikipedia is always a work in progress, so clean up is a natural part of the project" and maybe reflect on the actuallity of that a bit deeper. Ceoil (talk) 23:43, 16 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
@Ceoil:: I am a bit confused, obviously I am misreading something: what is the main concern you have then? Can you rephrase what you would like to know? Sadads (talk) 00:25, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, dear. To go back to the root; you said "I am doing my best to create opportunities for them [students] not to be disappointed by a clearly superior article suddenly appearing where theirs should go". Then as we went though what this might mean to troops on the ground you said, "Wikipedia is always a work in progress, so clean up is a natural part of the project". You want incumbant editors to step aside but at the same time come in and clean up after. Ceoil (talk) 00:48, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sadads, I wanted to wait a few days to stop by and comment, but decided to stop by and leave a shortish comment before real life duties take me away for most of the rest of the month. Basically the issues here are these: 1., is it appropriate to ask an editor not to edit a suite of articles, which apparently are in preparatory stages for a given college class; and 2., is it appropriate to expect long-term editors, those who presumably will be around when the students are gone, to perform clean-up tasks; and 3., is it in the project's interest to allow substandard sourcing in student-written articles? First, I won't be pursue the issue more at this time; instead I'll respect the request not to edit Blake and allow your students to complete their projects in the interest of creating less stress for the students. However, I think these are all serious issues that probably need to be addressed on a higher level. I'll look into whether we have a noticeboard for student written articles (I thought one was started?) and maybe will confer with Mike Christie who's given good advice in the past. I do know that editors such as SandyGeorgia have had serious problems in terms of post-end-of-semester clean up, and I've experienced it myself on the Hemingway pages. Well, many of those are now a mess and I haven't gotten to them - which is the concern I have here and what Ceoil is trying to ask about. Who will do the clean up if those of us invested in the pages and who are here on the ground are simultaneously told to stay away? That is the question that I'll probably be following up with next month or in the new year. On a side note, just so you know - nothing malicious was intended when I started editing "The Tyger". I saw this edit on my watch (the vandalism was sort of funny!), took a look at the page, noticed the sorry state and in a moment of idleness spent a bit of time sprucing up with sources at hand. But all the while I was expecting a message from you, (which did land on my page), and that too concerns me. The rest I'll let go, but after this experience, I'm leaning toward articulating my own philosophy about how best to use wikipedia as a teaching tool though I don't really have the sense that my voice is any more or any less important than others. Anyway, good luck with the end of the semester and with the student assignments. Victoria (talk) 17:20, 18 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the clear articulation @Victoriaearle: both here and on your talk page of concerns. I am sorry for the problems with previous students. Its just the four (uncreated) articles I listed on your page in the first comment that students will be working on. I must apologize for the amount of back in forth 2 weekends ago, I have been operating under a lot of different deadlines lately and I reacted a little defensively. The invitation stills stands to participate in WP:Blake, I would love to have such an expert researcher. I hope everything goes well on your end, and thanks for the well wishes for the semester, Sadads (talk) 01:08, 19 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
So you wont be anymore saying things like "If you get in the mood to be starting new articles, it would be great if you left those uncreated"? That would be a start. Participating in your Blake progect; I doubt many people previously active in that area would go near it now; you've almost singlehandly killed work in that area stone dead. Ceoil (talk) 22:24, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Jerusalem The Emanation of the Giant Albion[edit]

I made some additions of the information and pictures. This probably needs to be amended. Have a look please. Dmitrismirnov (talk) 09:00, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Dmitrismirnov:! Sorry it took so long. The initial changes look good! Definitely a better job at summarizing/paraphrasing from sources. I will do a little bit of research to add sourcing if I get a chance, Sadads (talk) 23:17, 16 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Some bubble tea for you![edit]

Thanks for giving The French Lieutenant's Woman, one of my favorites, such an expansion. Have you thought about trying to bring it to GA? -- Khazar2 (talk) 17:52, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Why thank you @Khazar2:! GA was definitely on my radar (and maybe a serious effort to bring it up to my first FA?) I have a series of writing tasks that I want to finish before going through a review though: find at least one or two sources more sources that do marxist , ecocritical or science/religion readings; add at least a couple sources that talk about the composition and genesis of the novel by Fowle's; and some more information to flesh out the contemporary reception, characters and style and structure sections. The recent expansion was concurrent with a four article Literature review I was doing for a graduate class, and when I realized how close I was to 5x I added a few more sources for a DYK nom. I am writing another paper in the next 3-4 weeks on it, so will add research from that push, and then when Winter Break comes up, I will push it through GA and beyond. Otherwise though, I am bit overwhelmed by working other things, including teaching, classes and other projects like WP:Blake. If you want to help before I return to the article, no objections from me :) I'll add that checklist to the talk page so its easier for collaboration. Cheers! Sadads (talk) 18:59, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That's good to hear. I think I could actually help the most by staying clear of the article for now and giving it a GA review later; some other projects I have going would prevent me from being a major contributor anyway. Feel free to ping me when you nominate it, and I'll be glad to make sure it gets a prompt and helpful review. Thanks again for all your lit work, -- Khazar2 (talk) 19:02, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds like a plan @Khazar2:. When I get there, I will ping you. Hope your other projects go well, Sadads (talk) 19:07, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Now that I think about it though, there is a small favor that would be nice, if you are interested @Khazar2:: I wouldn't mind an expedited DYK nom at Template:Did_you_know_nominations/The_French_Lieutenant's_Woman since you know the article/novel and might be able to improve the hook; they have quite a backlog going on right now... Sadads (talk) 19:11, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I saw that that one was long overdue (it's actually how I noticed your work on it in the first place). I'll see if I can get to it this week if nobody beats me to it. -- Khazar2 (talk) 19:12, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Brilliant! Thanks for the support @Khazar2:! Sadads (talk) 19:15, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue XCII, November 2013[edit]

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DYK[edit]

Hi Alex - Ive done a partial review of your hook and also included a Mathematical joke for your amusement... Victuallers (talk) 09:55, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for The French Lieutenant's Woman[edit]

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Improbable redirects at WP:AN[edit]

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Peer Review[edit]

Hi there, just wondering if you wouldn't mind reviewing my article, would be so much appreciated. Thank you so much. Kieran3004 The Extreme Sport Challenges Association <---Article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kieran3004 (talk • contribs) 11:43, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue XCIII, December 2013[edit]

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Rhinoceros Party of Canada (1963\xE2\x80\x931993)[edit]

Redirects of this form are up for discussion and possible deletion at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2013_December_9#.5Cx22Weird_Al.5Cx22_Yankovic. —rybec 23:04, 17 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Science fiction novel[edit]

Re: [4] Given that science fiction novel is a redirect to science fiction, you're essentially removing two real links and replacing them with a redirect to one of them. --GRuban (talk) 17:48, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the feedback about the delinking of excessive links to novel. Science fiction talks about novels as seperate from other genres (and probably should do so more), and they are a distinct genre which could have its own page in the future (unmerged), especially considering we have a whole category tree devoted to them as distinct (see Category:Science fiction novels. The link to novel is not adding significant value to the reader per WP:OVERLINK, whereas a link to science fiction novel can be turned into a distinct page when users are ready. Moreover, the two links next to each other increase the likelihood that readers will accidently click one, instead of the other, decreasing usability. I opted for merging the links instead of simply delinking because of the potential for a new page showing up in the future, alongside other pages like List of science fiction television programs, Science_fiction_comics, Science fiction fanzine, or any number of other genre articles. I might even start to build it during January. If you decide to revert, I would strongly recommend delinking novel. Happy holidays and editing! Sadads (talk) 20:23, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
@GRuban:Actually, relooking at the other genre links on Template:Science fiction, it should be fixed for the list page, which I did. Now all those should redirect to a new location that links both "science fiction" and "novel" if that is what the reader wanted to find. Eventually, I would like to turn the page into a full article like Science_fiction_comics, Sadads (talk) 20:30, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Little Boy Lost[edit]

Hi Sadads, Merry Christmas to you sir. Very quick question for you. The article Little Boy Lost (poem), shouldn't it be more correctly found at The Little Boy Lost? It seems strange that the redirect is found at The Little Boy Lost and the article at Little Boy Lost (poem). Surely it should be the other way around. Bertaut (talk) 01:28, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Bertaut: Thanks for the heads up. Fixed it! Sadads (talk) 20:00, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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