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MR and Hangul Linktext

Thanks for adding the MR for Insadong Scandal, I thought I added it and but I clearly missed it. I'm trying to revert the various Korean films back to using their special template so the hangul, hanja, RR, and MR all show, as with Insadong Scandal. And at the same time adding hanja on the film pages where it is missing and adding links to the wiktionary for hangul and hanja. With that being said, please don't delete the linktext code for the hangul characters. I know the pages in wikitionary are not as developed with Hangul as they are with Hanja but the more articles that link there the more use/edits/useful they become.

Now that I just read your User page, are you the person who is keeping "Category:Wikipedia articles needing romanized Korean" so nice and short? I noticed it has been shrinking but unsure who has been doing that. It truly is a thankless job so I wanted to say thank you to those working at it :) ₪RicknAsia₪ 10:06, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Hey Rystheguy,
I've been editing here and there for a few years but at times I still feel like a noob as I keep finding new things (new to me at least) which sometimes makes me go back and reedit a few hundred pages *sighs*. Honestly I just found out about Wikitionary recently as well. My basic idea is the more pages that have that script the more useful it is and the more developed those Wikitionary pages will be as well.
In regards to the film title Secret, true, the 시 크 릿 don't have individual meanings, but if people are curious they can learn what kind of words use 시 or how 시 can be used via the links. I do agree it's not as useful as Hanja but then again of the few non-Koreans that learn Korean here, I've barely met any that study the roots aka hanja. So my guess is the Hangul will be more pratical. But it's all about what we are looking for/needing I guess.
Are you self taught or did you study Korean at a language school? Cheers~ ₪RicknAsia₪ 07:34, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
I live in Ulsan and study at the city hall, but I also use a few websites to study outside of class. How about you, are you in Korea now? Learning Korean?
Rystheguy (talk) 03:53, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
I was wondering if Ulsan since you edited a number of pages from the city. I live in Seoul, taken Korean language classes off and on but mainly self taught. I'm low intermediate and need to study more but get distracted. The city offers classes? How are they? ₪RicknAsia₪ 05:02, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
The classes have been great, although not enough to become fluent. Only one day a week. They're free, though. Rystheguy (talk) 05:44, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
What is your goal for the language courses? Unrelated take a look at the Hanja, or lack there of, with The Client (2011 film). There is some for 의뢰 but unsure if it fits. Thoughts? ₪RicknAsia₪ 13:44, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
My goal is basically to speak enough Korean to be able to communicate anything I want to say, even if it's not perfect. I'm not staying in Korea after this contract ends, but I would like to continue studying. How about you, what are your goals? How long have you been in Korea? As for the Hanja, I'm not sure at all. That's one thing I know almost nothing about. I'll occasionally add Hanja to an article, but only if I can find it in another related article or in the Korean Wikipedia version of the same article. Sorry I can't be of more help. Rystheguy (talk) 05:29, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Not a problem. Hanja is one of those that isn't really practical for most people to study so I've yet to meet (anyone?) else who is interested in it. I've been here around 6 years but haven't studied the language the whole time I've been here. It's been an off and on hobby but I'd love to get it to a level where it opens new job possibilities beyond teaching. If you are interested there is a debate going on over how the special Chinese/Korean/Japanese templates should be merged with the general film infobox template. I'd love to get more input especially by those who might be editing/seeing the Asian film pages. ₪RicknAsia₪ 05:59, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Re: Korean name romanisations

Sorry, it was my mistake to say "aspirated" when I meant "devoiced". Brain not back from lunch yet. Phonologically, I'm sure the ㅈ between two vowels is voiced (as opposed to word-initially when it is devoiced). I think McCune-Reischauer indicates voicing where it occurs rather than following the orthography and always writing ㅈ as "ch"; the article says somewhere in the middle, "when deciding whether g or k, b or p, d or t and j or ch is used, use g, b, d or j if it is voiced, and k, p, t or ch if it is not". Cheers, quant18 (talk) 06:02, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Lee Yuksa page.. thanks and an update

Rystheguy,

Thanks for your awesome work on that page. I went back and tried to clean up the writing on it. I think it is clean now, but since you put the initial tag on it, I thought I'd make sure it addressed the problems you saw.

Ccmontgom (talk) 11:02, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

back at you on Lee Yuksa

Thanks for that additional work you did on Lee Yuksa, that's beginning to look like a real^^ page.. I'll be using that page as my template now, whenever I have enough information. I think Kim Sakkat (the rainhat poet) will be coming soon and I'm happy anytime you jump in to fix things up. Ccmontgom (talk) 09:40, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

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Romanization please

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Wrong MR

Thank you for your contribution for romanization. Well, but your contribtuion for MR romanization have some matter. Please see the McCune–Reischauer#Consonants. "ㅈ" (Initial) is "ch" and "ㅍ" (Initial) is "p'" in MR. Thanks. --Idh0854 (talk) 15:15, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

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your wrong stupid

Go check the net worth of carlos slim and you will see that i'm correct and leave me the fuck alone i do what i want bitch. Slycooperr21 (talk) 13:08, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

@Slycooperr21: Provide a reliable source for your information (one that is more reliable than the Forbes source that currently exists) and maybe we can discuss it. Ry's the Guy (talk|contribs) 13:12, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Forbes

What more reliable source then forbes you need idiot second where do you get your source go check the net worth its 72.9 you stupid. Slycooperr21 (talk) 13:21, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

@Slycooperr21: The Forbes source supports the number that already exists in the article. Check for yourself: Forbes The number has changed slightly since yesterday and I believe it's different than it was even this morning. Maybe you saw it on a different date. Anyways, we shouldn't be editing an article every few hours to reflect the changes on the Forbes website. Ry's the Guy (talk|contribs) 13:31, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Other user vandalizing Wikipedia pages

@Rystheguy: There is a user, Austin lee Singer, who is vandalizing several Wikipedia pages (as you have noticed I guess, when you reverted several such edits that user made to the "Hillary Clinton" entry). In addition to the "Hillary Clinton" page, this has also been done to various other articles (see: Special:Contributions/Austin lee Singer. This user should be blocked, but I'm not sure precisely of the appropriate procedures for proposing to block a user. Can you help? --- Professor JR (talk) 09:54, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

@Professor JR: Hi, thanks for the heads up. I've already reported the user as a Sock puppet because the user has a second account, User talk:Austin Rea Singer, that is making similarly unconstructive edits. You can see the open case here: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Austin lee Singer. There should be an admin looking into it soon. Thank you for your edits and helping to prevent vandalism! Ry's the Guy (talk|contribs) 10:01, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
@Rystheguy: Thanks. Appreciate it. You were way ahead of me. And, I have just left a comment at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Austin lee Singer in support of blocking the user. --- Professor JR (talk) 11:25, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

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Warning anons

I noticed that you have applied level-four warnings to anons who have a history of disruptive editing, but not a recent history. Since they were both shared IPs (a school and a state IP) that's probably not appropriate. Walter Görlitz (talk) 13:54, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

@Walter Görlitz: You're right. I thought the users all had recent histories of disruptive editing but at least one seemed to have a gap of a few months. Thanks for the heads up! Ry's the Guy (talk|contribs) 07:23, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Korean language templates

Related discussion here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea#Template:Korean

Hi, and thanks for the invitation!

1. Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Korea-related articles#Introductory sentence advices to enclose the hangul in Template:Korean in Template:Lang: {{korean|hangul={{lang|ko|이명박}}}}. Why is there nothing about this in the documentation for Template:Korean?
The MOS should be updated. {{Korean}} already uses {{Lang}} for Hangul and hanja, so there's no need to embed one in the other in articles. This must not have been updated when {{Korean}} was updated. I'll make the change to the MOS.
2. Should one use Template:Lang with romanizations too? I don't know how is accessibility features concerning pronunciation and font work with romanization.
If you're using {{Korean}}, it uses {{Transl}} so there's no need. You can use {{Transl}} for those times when you're not including Hangul, only a romanization.
3. I treat hangul and romanizations like any verifiable information and try to find a source for those. What is the correct way to include refs in language templates? If one puts the ref right after hangul, the footnote is rendered in a CJK font whereas this is not the case with romanizations. The ref is also rendered before punctuation, which is not optimal. Example: {{korean|hangul={{lang|ko|이명박}}<ref>Ref for hangul</ref>|rr=Ban Gimun<ref>Ref for RR</ref>}} renders: Korean: 이명박[1]; RR: Ban Gimun[2]
It's a good idea to add a source for Hangul or hanja, but I wouldn't put a reference inside of a template to avoid the problems you mentioned. I don't think there's a standard on how to do this. People often put it in the Infobox Korean name if it's used. If not then maybe it would be best directly after the template or at the end of the sentence? I don't think it's necessary to reference a romanization since it would be possible to verify by looking at the articles for rr or mr. Any reference that includes the romanization would probably be in the article somewhere anyways. If the common romanization of a word is different from how it would be done with rr or mr, maybe it would be good to include a comment in the text (using <!-- -->) indicating that it is a non-standard romanization and you could mention the reference in that comment? I'm not really sure of the best way of doing this though. Typically the references I use in an article will all include the Hangul, so I feel like it should be simple enough for someone to verify it.
4. This happens with Template:Infobox Korean name too. To prevent this, I sometimes put the refs in the text= field, though this is hardly a good practice.
I haven't noticed this myself, but if it does format the reflist differently then it's probably a good idea not to include a reference in the infobox. Perhaps reference it elsewhere on the page, like in the lead? Obviously you wouldn't want to include all the romanizations twice, so if there's an infobox then the lead could contain only Hangul (using Template:Korean) and a reference after that.
5. Korean templates don't have parameters for cases where the spelling (and not just the romanization) differs in the North and the South. For attempts at this see: Naengmyeon and Yi Han-yong.
Yeah, I think that in these special cases it might be better not to use the usual templates and instead stick with {{Lang}} and {{Transl}}. Or to use {{Korean}} for the first set of Hangul, hanja and romanizations, then use the other templates I just mentioned for other contexts.
6. Why do we have Template:Korean and Template:Hangugeo with essentially identical features?
I'm not really sure why {{Hangugeo}} was created. It's relatively new (2013) and appears like the person who created it wanted it to be a Korean version of {{Nihongo}}. It is not a very commonly used template compared to the others (edit: I just checked and it's only used 60 times! This template should probably be discontinued.) This also ties in with your next question.
7. Why are we using the bulky Template:Contains Korean text? There are better ways to do this: see Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Japan-related articles#Templates. Template:Hangugeo does this, but doesn't support all romanizations and isn't sanctioned by any guideline.
It would be pretty simple to include the superscripted question mark in Template:Korean that links to the page about multilingual support. The problem is that this bulky template is used on 2000+ pages and it would be a big job to remove them all and ensure that Template:Korean was used instead. if this new feature were added to Template:Korean. That would be something that would need to be discussed at WP:KO. Maybe a bot could do this but I don't know much about that. I agree that it would be better, though!
8. Is it of any use to link hanja to wiktionary in templates? For an example, see Template:Infobox Korean name at Kim Jong-il.
I think there's rarely a reason to do this, and almost never with people's names. I sometimes do it if the character (or group of characters) have meaning related to the topic, and if I think people might be interested in knowing which character means what (example: Wedding ducks). I know there are some users who have made it their mission to do this for every single character in every infobox or Korean template, but I don't see the point. This would be another thing that would be useful to discuss at the Wikiproject to gain a consensus and update the MOS.

I know these are little things and by pointing them out I'm not implying they need to be "fixed". It's simply particularities of Korean language templates based on my experience.

References

  1. ^ Ref for hangul
  2. ^ Ref for RR

Finnusertop (talk | guestbook | contribs) 13:25, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

@Finnusertop: I'll do my best to answer each of your questions above. I hope you don't mind but I changed your # signs to numbers so I could reply directly under each question. Please let me know if there's anything I've missed of if you have any further questions! Ry's the Guy (talk|contribs) 08:47, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the thorough reply! I'm pleased to see that some of my experience can be used for maintaining our language templates. I say again that some issues are minor and can be overcome with a degree of creativity, so I wouldn't be too concerned about getting them "fixed". I'm the kind of editor who likes to turn to the documentation and guidelines for help. Unfortunately, as things get updated, guidelines are sometimes not. Thanks again! Finnusertop (talk | guestbook | contribs) 16:05, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

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dont deleted Hello Ghost by --Sunuraju (talk) 11:24, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

@Sunuraju: I'm not trying to delete the article, I was arguing that it should not be deleted. You're welcome to participate in the discussion on the article's talk page. Ry's the Guy (talk|contribs) 11:28, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

saved hello ghost by --Sunuraju (talk) 13:49, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

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inre Hello Ghost

Good call on returning the improperly removed plot section. Sunuraju should pay attention to MOS:FILM. checkY Schmidt, Michael Q. 07:00, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, MichaelQSchmidt. I think that Sunuraju was just trying to prevent his or her article from being deleted by reacting to the comments of the nominator, but it wasn't the best way to go about it. Ry's the Guy (talk|contribs) 13:59, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-40

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • In UploadWizard, the dialog to see an image preview has been removed. You already see the images in the thumbnails when you upload them. [45]
  • UploadWizard dialogs look a bit different now. They have been updated to the new OOUI look. [46]
  • You can now edit music scores in VisualEditor. You can add new sheet music scores and get live updates when you edit one. [47]
  • When you send an e-mail to another editor using Special:EmailUser, that user will now get a notification on the wiki as well. [48]
  • You can now see 500 images when you upload images from Flickr with UploadWizard. Before this change the limit was 50. [49]
  • The Wikimedia mailing lists have been upgraded. [50]
  • MediaWiki developers spent a day looking at proposed code changes in Gerrit. The goal was to clean up the backlog and give feedback to volunteer developers. [51]

Problems

  • Some visitors had problems reaching the Wikimedia sites for an hour on September 24. [52][53]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from September 29. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from September 30. It will be on all Wikipedias from October 1 (calendar).
  • There will be a new beta feature that allows editors to use Flow on their user talkpage if they want to. Each wiki can decide if they want to enable it. [54]
  • The Content Translation tool can give translation suggestions. This feature will now be available in more languages: English, French, Spanish, Russian, Chinese, Turkish, Japanese, Italian, and Catalan. [55]

Meetings

Future changes

  • The Wikimedia Foundation developers want the community to decide who can use OAuth in the future. You can discuss it on Meta.

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15:15, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

DYK for High diving

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 18:24, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

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This week's article for improvement (week 41, 2015)

Hello, Rystheguy.

The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection:

Musical composition

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Tech News: 2015-41

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The link editor in the visual editor now shows results below the search box. This improves the usability on desktop and mobile. [57]
  • The description at Special:ChangeEmail now clearly explains that the page can also be used to remove your email. [58]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from October 6. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from October 7. It will be on all Wikipedias from October 8 (calendar).
  • UploadWizard will remind users to add a category. [59]
  • UploadWizard's category selectors will be easier to use. [60]
  • A new Cite error will be shown if a named reference is defined more than once in the same article. [61]

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on 6 October at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

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18:33, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 07 October 2015

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