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Happy New Year!

A cat to ease all of your troubles
A cat to ease all of your troubles
Happy New Year!
Hey there, Roux/Archives/2009! Happy new Gregorian year. All the best for the new year, both towards you and your family and friends too. I know that I am the only person lonely enough to be running this thing as the new year is ushered in, but meh, what are you going to do. I like to keep my templated messages in a satisfactorily melancholy tone. ;)

Congratulations to Coren, Wizardman, Vassyana, Carcharoth, Jayvdb, Casliber, Risker, Roger Davies, Cool Hand Luke and Rlevse, who were all appointed to the Arbitration Committee after the ArbCom elections. I am sure I am but a voice of many when I say I trust the aforementioned users to improve the committee, each in their own way, as listed within their respective election statements. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to update the 2009 article, heh.

Best wishes, neuro(talk) 00:58, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Your RfA

Good luck! - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 11:32, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

You are invited to participate in Yip Pin Xiu's peer review

Happy New Year, Roux! May you have a wonderful 2009! Thanks for peer reviewing Denise Phua; that article has just passed GA. As part of my efforts to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Singaporean anti-discrimination, I have written an article about Singaporean Paralympic swimmer Yip Pin Xiu. I invite you to give the article a thorough review. Thank you for your kind attention. --J.L.W.S. The Special One (talk) 04:06, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

MFD User:DJ_WikiBob/Sandbox_2

Would you consider withdrawing Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:DJ_WikiBob/Sandbox_2 in light of changes and discussion? davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 17:39, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. By the way, File:Sphinx2_July_2006.jpg is scaring the bejesus out of me. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 01:33, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
No problem. As for the cat, blame Raul.. he's the one who makes the Daily Kittens. // roux   02:59, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
User:Ceiling Cat. —Ed 17 (Talk / Contribs) 05:46, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: Vote

Hello, Roux. You have new messages at Dylan620's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

--Dylan620 (Contribs · Sign!) 03:05, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Hello, Roux. You have new messages at Dylan620's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Also, as a random question, how does your signature change with every post? --Dylan620 (Contribs · Sign!) 11:59, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about this...

Hi, roux! Sorry about butting in at the account creation tool on creating User:Skyrandom. While I was checking it, you had placed the "being marked" tag (which I of course, forgot to do) and created the account while you were checking. Sorry about that. Chamal talk 10:21, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

You've messaged me while I was typing the earlier message :) Yes, I noticed it earlier, but forgot to do it and just carried on with the usual way. Chamal talk 10:23, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

re: stinkin' parsers

Hello, Roux. You have new messages at Treelo's talk page.
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Your signature is not working in some templates

Hi Roux, I've noticed that your signature is coming out garbled in the welcomeg template. For example, User talk:Qurota. Don't know if it's something that you can do anything about, but thought I would let you know. Cheers, Beeswaxcandle (talk) 20:41, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Aye.. it's when SQLbot adds the welcome template after I create an account, I think. Something buggy over at ACC tool. // roux   21:56, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Just a note on this Roux - are you templating your sig as it's not permitted - see Wikipedia:SIG#NoTemplates. I just saw it on the RFA you just commented on and wondered. Cheers! Pedro :  Chat  12:57, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
It's subst'd, no different than a normal sig. // roux   13:01, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
See the above my man Substitution of templates in signatures is also not allowed, as any such template either will violate the reasonable length restriction of 255 characters or will be redundant to using the same content as a raw signature. - sig's are defined from your preferences not a "subst:" Pedro :  Chat  13:06, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
The formatting breaks when used via prefs. Garden does the same thing, it causes no harm.// roux   13:11, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
So I noticed - User:Garden/s. I'm afraid that your argument that "it does no harm" is moot - as the above policy I linked to says transcluding your sig is specifically not allowed so you'll have to create it via your prefs. Sorry. Pedro :  Chat  13:19, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
No harm, IAR. Protect the page if you're concerned about vandalism. // roux   13:37, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
No. WP:IAR is quite clear If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia, ignore it. (my bold). Your signature does not help in this regard so citing IAR is irrelevant. However it's not worth arguing over. Pedro :  Chat  13:45, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
I know what IAR says. I'm looking at the spirit, not the letter. // roux   13:47, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
You might also like to see this comment from one of the developers (well actually the lead developer) - I'm sorry Roux but I'm going to insist on this or we'll have to ask for input at WP:AN Pedro :  Chat  13:50, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Talk about a tempest in a teacup. ANI over my sig? And a comment from Brion that's three years old? Sheesh. I can't believe you're devoting so much time and effort to something that, in your words, is not worth arguing over. roux   13:57, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Okay, I've asked for more input [at ANI]. Pedro :  Chat  14:07, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Re:RfA

Your answer to q5 is good. q6 is as good as any of the other answers that I've had to it. q4 ... while I the question was meant to be about the policy on edit warring rather than the phenomenon, since you thought it was about the latter your answer was fine. I forgot about this RfA actually. Honestly, I think you deserved to do better but you paid the price for timing it badly and for other miscellaneous things which affect reputations adversely ... all of which you'll have to learn from. The good thing about an RfA though it that it is a good purgatory device ... if you don't sin again for the next 6 months all will be well. All the best and good luck. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 22:40, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

I know what it feels like. So have a beer, relax a bit and try and focus on all the things you enjoy about this weird place, as well as the nice things your supporters said. ϢereSpielChequers 23:38, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I never turn down beer... I'm really not too concerned that the RFA failed. I am concerned by the content of some of the opposes, as they weren't on speaking terms with reality. But nobody's particularly interested in a) admitting that it is a vote, and b) requiring that people back their opposes up with diffs. Oh well. It is what it is, and all efforts to change it have been blocked by some fairly determined people, so the process is depressingly unlikely to change. //roux   02:13, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

<3

I just wanna <3 you. --Mixwell!Talk 05:18, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Saying Hello

Hiya Roux, how ya doing. GoodDay (talk) 13:28, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Three things...

I just read through your whole RFA. Shit. After that workover you must be feeling down.

  1. Thanks for creating that awesome banner for the Wiki Cup - I missed the opportunity to pile-on kudos when you unveiled that beauty on the Cup talk page.
  2. Damn sorry I missed your AfD - I would have been a strong support - that will teach you not to canvas. I liked your answers a lot and "Has-clue-writes-decent-stuff-for-the-encyclopedia-and-has-a-goddamned-sense-of-humour" would have been my support comment.
  3. Don't go off-fucking-wiki again. Clue is in bloody short supply here on En-wiki and a sense of humour is even rarer.

Ok, four things, For Christ's sake get going on the mainspace work - it's almost week two and you and neuro have yet to earn a single point in the Cup. I'm gunna wipe the floor with the pair of you! Cheers and take it easy, Paxse (talk) 19:04, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Er...I assume you mean the RFA instead of AFD? bibliomaniac15 19:10, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
O fixed. Paxse (talk) 20:04, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi there. I'm here to inform you that I chose to close Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Promethean/No per WP:SNOW as there were no other delete !votes than yours. While I understand why you nominated this template for deletion, I suggest you distinguish between the template in question and the way Promethean (talk · contribs) decided to promote it. Only the latter may be canvassing, the former is as non-canvassing as all userboxes etc. that illustrate a user's point of view (see Wikipedia:Userboxes/Wikipedia/Views for example, most of those promote a certain POV but none would be considered canvassing). If you feel that the way Promethean decided to promote the template fulfills WP:CANVASS, you should probably take this to WP:ANI. Regards SoWhy 12:20, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

I can't take it to ANI or anywhere else, I'll be accused of forum shopping. Oh well, the community has indicated it's fine with blatant canvassing. //roux   12:27, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy Birthday

I couldn't find a good template, so I'll do this by hand (you better be thankful). HAPPY BIRTHDAY! DARTH PANDAduel 05:03, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! //roux   16:26, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy Roux's Day!

Roux has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian,
and therefore, I've officially declared today as Roux's day!
For being straightforward, honest, and full of common sense,
enjoy being the Star of the day, Roux!

Cheers,
bibliomaniac15
00:32, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Omai, congrats! Even I have not that honour :P Garden. 13:38, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Closure

How was this "wrong venue"? Just wondering; I'm pretty sure user pages are supposed to go to mfd. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 19:27, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Take another look at who created the MfD. //roux   19:36, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
I would've just closed it as Speedy deleted per WP:CSD#U1 or somesuch. The page's author created the MFD, and I informed them that they could've tagged it as U1 instead. That's not "wrong venue", more like "didn't know about speedy deletion". Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 19:41, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
And since CSD is the correct choice, MfD is indeed the wrong venue. It had been deleted by the time the page reloaded from closing, and I couldn't be arsed to change it, nor was it necessary to do anything further. //roux   19:48, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Ah, I see now. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 20:42, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter

Delivered by The Helpful One for Garden and iMatthew at 23:59, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy Birthday

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

NuclearWarfare (Talk) 05:07, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! And dear god that is obscenely offensive... at least it doesn't blink :P //roux   16:26, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Happy birthday. Also, the God-King is watching you.
Main Page
bibliomaniac15 05:44, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! //roux   16:26, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

It's your birthday? Best wishes then.

Wishing you all the best on your birthday! From the Wikipedia Birthday Committee.

Chamal talk 11:32, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! //roux   16:26, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy birthday. Btw you might be interested in this, as you already involved in the discussion on ANI.--Pattont/c 16:38, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

I'll bet you have the same birthday as someone I know o: Happy birthday :) Icy // 01:28, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy Birthday, Roux.Ɽђαηα||♥ (talk) 03:03, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

AH CRAP! Missed it! :( Oh well, happy birthday two ewes to yourself also :P Also, nicked from someone, somewhere (oh, who?) and 38 hours late...

+ + +

And Jesus that was scary. Garden. 13:45, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

I missed it :( neuro(talk) 14:22, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
also happy belated birthday, forgot about that bit. kind of important. neuro(talk) 14:22, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Happy belated birthday. GoodDay (talk) 20:48, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Care to elaborate a little

I was shocked to say the very least upon seeing this edit of yours, and amazed by the extreme lack of good faith on your part. Based on your comment at first I thought you must be the community, or at the very least an administrator. Come to find out you are neither of those. You are in no position to tell me (or anyone for that matter) where they can edit, or whom they may talk to. You worded your comment like I better not push you because if I did in about 5 seconds I was going to be banned from all music related articles. Based on what exactly? ANI is the appropriate place to report the type of behavior I reported. Of everyone involved in that thread, or that took action due to the thread, you and Ibaranoff24 are the only ones to mention my behavior. To say my edits are a "needless disruption" and to pretend like I disrupt music articles to that point is the most uncalled for thing I've seen in a long time on here. Five, maybe six different admins unanimously agreed Ibaranoff's behavior was very inappropriate and he was to stop or be blocked. He was issued appropriate warnings and then blocked. You are the only person that seems to think my edits on ANI were disruptive. I'm not trying to be rude. I just want to make it clear that you are in no position to dictate where I can edit, when I can edit, or whom I may talk to and so forth. Let alone give a 5 second time limit with some options I am to follow like I'm some child. If you honestly think I disrupt our music articles to the point a topic band is in order I strongly encourage you to take the appropriate action. Reason being if you are correct about this I'd like to know, because I do not want to be behaving in such a fashion. I have a "sneaking suspicion" that you and the blocked editor will be the only two editors to support the "topic ban." I apologize if I have offended you, but your comment was very inappropriate and without merit. It was incredibly rude of you to make such a blanket statement such as that. Like I said, if you are correct about a topic ban being in order start a thread. Keep in mind you will need diffs supporting your allegations though. The mere fact I reported a disruptive editor that is now blocked is not going to do it. Have a good day. Landon1980 (talk) 00:16, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, um, you don't get the point. Two people are causing disruption. The disruption needs to end. Either you learn how to leave it alone for yourself or the community will do it for you. //roux   00:21, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Ok here you go again with another rude comment: "Either choose to learn it yourself, or the community will decide for you." You are not the community, and I am more than permitted to report disruptive behavior on ANI. You could not be more wrong about this, and it's sad that you would treat a fellow editor like this for no reason at all. You are not my boss, therefore you do not tell me what to do or to learn to do. Like I told you, if you think I'm that disruptive start a thread. Otherwise stop threatening me with "the community" Landon1980 (talk)
Still not seeing the point. That wasn't a threat, that was a very simple explanation of how Wikipedia works. I have been on the receiving end of it, I know what I'm talking about here. Wikipedia works on the same principle that bars do: doesn't much matter who started the fight, both people get booted. You need to learn to walk away from the argument and have others deal with it for you--continuing the sniping at ANI is precisely the sort of disruption WP doesn't need. //roux   00:27, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I assure you reporting disruptive behavior to ANI is not disruptive, you act as if I was making crazy allegations and was just there bickering for no reason. I made further comments because Ibaranoff was continuing to be disruptive elsewhere. If you have a problem with me reporting personal attacks, edit warring, etc. to ANI here is not the place to take it up, that is what ANI is for. I was one of several editor's having the same problem with Ibaranoff. I don't need your advice, you are wrong about this. I stand by my actions, you are the only person to so much as question my edits on ANI today. Nothing productive is going to come of this, you are not the community so stop acting like it. Now either start a thread and propose the topic ban or we are done here. Landon1980 (talk) 00:31, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
If I'm coming across as hateful I do apologize, your comment just really rubbed me the wrong way. Countless editors and admins have commented on Ibaranoff's recent behavior. Your theory that one editor cannot report a disruptive editor without both being treated equally "like a bar" is way off base, and very inaccurate. I made further comments when Ibaranoff would make further disruptive edits, and that is precisely what ANI is for. Again, of over a dozen editor's/admins involved at the present (countless more which have no doubt seen my comments on ANI) there seems to be no one that shares your opinion of my edits. Like I said though, there is no point in discussing this. Now let me finish by respectfully saying this: I don't want your advice, I don't need your advice. This will be my last comment, if you have a problem with my edits on ANI, or my edits in general you know how to start a thread. If/when you start the thread just let me know. Have a good day and happy editing. Landon1980 (talk) 00:47, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
OKay, so you've gone form not getting it into aggressive cluelessness. I was referring to the disruption at other articles--lest you forget, I was the one who took the medcab case last time Ibaranoff was causing disruption, and if memory serves you were tangentially involved. Edit wars are bad for everyone, and here's the thing: one person cannot editwar by himself. You need to learn to disengage from the situation and have other people handle it, not keep fighting, then report to ANI, and continue the bickering there. That is what you are not understanding. Jolly good that you're 'not posting anymore', because this discussion is over. One day you'll look back and realise what I was saying, and you will be dreadfully embarrassed by how you responded. //roux   00:56, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for helping me close the "Basic" box on my userpage. i'm new and I didn't figure out how. Thanks and sorry for the trouble DylanIloveYou (talk) 16:47, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

hey there

I'm actually quite an established editor, but thanks for the new use welcome none the less. ^_^ On the ANI board, please note that I made strike thrus to the accusations of mussolini, fascism, etc. I made those by the recommendation of an Admin. Also, the user Noclador is obviously out of context by trying to stalk me in real life by searching for where I live, etc. That is really not part of the discussion, or am I wrong? I've stated openly that is my IP, I don't need to let him try to post personal information, right? Icsunonove (talk) 05:23, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Admin recomendation??? The "Admin" you refer to (user:Gerardw) has 193 Article contributions... "stalk me in real life"??? oh yeah, I copied lines from these two sources together: your user page and your IP page. --noclador (talk) 06:21, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Regardless, his recommendations are in good faith as an editor. I don't know if he is an Admin or not. Noclador, at some point you really need to evaluate how you have pursued and attacked me on here. Everything you claim is false in the end. I didn't make italianization edits; I fixed links. I wasn't doing anything wrong on the bridge article, you simply reverted everything I did. That is very clear in the edit history, and Theseeker can't seem to do enough to point this out to you. You also begin to make all these grand statements on the ANI page about the history of the region, which is out of context of the dispute, besides being completely inaccurate. On top of everything, you are bashing an editor who has made it his purpose to make sure every bit of history and language is kept in these articles. Unless you really hope to just have German now and erase all the others, you better seriously re-evaluate your attitude. I know it is tough to admit one is wrong. I admit I was wrong to lose my temper with you. I'll even forgive you for your accusations and slander, if you freakin' discuss this in a civil manner one-on-one. If not, the path you are going down is slippery, I'm sorry to say. Because as I noted on the ANI page, all these accusations of "fascist italianization" are utterly false, and that is a serious Wikipedia offense slandering people like that. So, up to you, or you can continue this forever... or until they perm. ban us both. :-) Icsunonove (talk) 06:49, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter

Hi

...Can you tell me how the color-changing works? Resident Mario (talk) 00:30, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

reply to your message

I'll bring it over here:

First of all, it's not stalking if you posted the information yourself, which you did. Second, can you please provide a diff where you were told--by someone who knows what they're talking about--that it's okay to edit the comments of someone you are in a dispute with? //roux   22:08, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

The information on my user page never included specific corporate names or cities within the greater metro area. The editor did get this information wrong, but it was uncomfortable seeing him attempt to extrapolate such information on a fellow editor. That does, at least in my humble opinion, move us into the realm of real-life stalking. This information obviously does not contribute to the discussion/dispute as well. Listen, I understand and agree with your concerns, and I'm not one to edit nor blank others' contributions, but some information just doesn't belong in these discussions. I'm content now to see people realize this and not add it back. Secondly, a user (I thought he was an Admin) recommended striking out the Mussolini/Fascist/etc. name calling as (I assume) a sign that we don't allow such slander on Wikipedia. If you would like me to unstrike, I most certainly will do that. Cool? :) Icsunonove (talk) 21:05, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
There is no point in pursuing this. //roux   16:20, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

userbox

Hey man, I have a right to oppose the homosexual lifestyle. You can't delete my userbox. --Wolfdog (talk) 02:16, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I have already answered you at User_talk:KillerChihuahua#notoGLBT_userbox, Wofldog - I was unaware you were spamming others with this. KillerChihuahua?!? 02:34, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually no, you have no right to spread hatred and bigotry on Wikipedia. Go to Conservapedia, which is very clearly divorced enough from reality to be right up your alley. //roux   16:20, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

RE: templates

You will have to point me to a specific discussion regarding the current structure/format of the templates. To render clickable links in black, as opposed to the usual blue, is bad web design, since a visitor may know not to click on black text; blue links also prevailed for some time previously. So, you will have to justify this and, no, I won't self-revert until a clear, explicit consensus has been demonstrated. Bosonic dressing (talk) 19:59, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the links, yet I don't see anything specific about the colour of the clickable text: most of the discussion revolves around the tone of the maple leaf, and inappropriate use of red text. Perhaps the prior template passed muster because there was an expectation to adhere to a fundamental tenet of web design. I cannot say, nor can you. I mean: do you see other clickable text on a usual wiki page rendered in a colour other than blue? This state endured for much longer prior to the revamped templates. Also with other example templates provided during those discussions (e.g., Template:Oregon_Pioneer_History), title/section headers are typically not clickable; when it may be, it's a matter of contrast. Lastly, BRD is not a policy, and I see no need to be bound by it. Mind you, I won't edit war regarding this. I'm all for discussion, but I will not be self-reverting. Bosonic dressing (talk) 20:18, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Whatever. Bosonic dressing (talk) 20:27, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter

17:37, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

proposed topic ban

please see my response on ANI.

カンチョーSennen Goroshi ! (talk) 04:00, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

personal question

Hi, I just wanted to comment on your username. I'm not cooking while I'm on WP, so I don't think "making sauce". Instead, my mind plays a little trick on me, and goes with the audio rather than the text: I think "Roo" as in Kanga and Roo and so I have a mental image of you as a baby kangaroo. Which is at odds with your behavior, which is thoughtful and measured, but then, I somehow cannot relate roux to you, either (hey! poetry!) So I ask: why Roux? Thank you in advance. KillerChihuahua?!? 19:32, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, it's two things. No, three. For one, the old username was just annoying me. Two, I'm a cooking student. And third, roux kind of neatly encapsulates what I see about what I do here. You can't eat a roux on its own (well, you could, but it would be a bit dull), it is a supporting ingredient in sauces and soups. It's not the star, it's not front and centre; it's in the background making sure the fats and other liquids stick together and stay thick. You can always tell when a sauce or a soup is thickened with a roux (there's a very different mouthfeel compared to thickening with file powder or okra or cornstarch or arrowroot or by reducing or whatever), but it's not really important to the flavour, just important to building the early stages of the dish. I hope that makes sense. //roux   16:20, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
It not only makes sense, its freaking brilliant! I am so glad I asked. Wow. How very cool. KillerChihuahua?!? 00:54, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
I wouldn't go that far, but thank you. //roux   19:09, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

User page layout

You responded to my request for help with the layout of my userpage. You answer was instructive, but didn't solve my problem. Would you be so kind to have another look? Debresser (talk) 18:56, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

What else do you need? Or are you trying to stack the boxbox boxes on top of each other? If so, putting {{clear}} after each container (not after each userbox) should do that. //roux   19:08, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm still working with it, but that seems to do it, yes. Thanks. Debresser (talk) 21:33, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

addition to the topicban proposal

It would be easy for me to list 10 or so editors who have edit warred on Japanese/Korean articles and suggest that they are topicbanned - however most have only played a minor role or have since moved on - the one editor that springs to mind when thinking about those who might benefit from a topicban however is Melonbarmonster2 [[1]] [[2]] - I am not going to waste my or your time outlining a case full of accusations etc - the block log for his account and previous account are linked above - I just think at a time when action is getting taken, it is easier to add one more editor to the naughty list than in a months time when it will require a new ANI report.

Anyway, thanks for your patience in relation to this, I look forward to not seeing my name in ANI again. カンチョーSennen Goroshi ! (talk) 03:58, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't see any need for this. If Melonbarmonster2 is a continual problem, s/he will be brought up at AN/I sooner or later and be dealt with according to the merits of the situation. //roux   04:09, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
No problem, if Caspian and I are topicbanned - I doubt I am going to have any contact with the above mentioned editor and seeing that I am not an admin, I won't have to deal with any ANI report that may or may not occur. thanks カンチョーSennen Goroshi ! (talk) 04:21, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

addition to the topicban proposal

It would be easy for me to list 10 or so editors who have edit warred on Japanese/Korean articles and suggest that they are topicbanned - however most have only played a minor role or have since moved on - the one editor that springs to mind when thinking about those who might benefit from a topicban however is Melonbarmonster2 [[3]] [[4]] - I am not going to waste my or your time outlining a case full of accusations etc - the block log for his account and previous account are linked above - I just think at a time when action is getting taken, it is easier to add one more editor to the naughty list than in a months time when it will require a new ANI report.

Anyway, thanks for your patience in relation to this, I look forward to not seeing my name in ANI again. カンチョーSennen Goroshi ! (talk) 03:58, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't see any need for this. If Melonbarmonster2 is a continual problem, s/he will be brought up at AN/I sooner or later and be dealt with according to the merits of the situation. //roux   04:09, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
No problem, if Caspian and I are topicbanned - I doubt I am going to have any contact with the above mentioned editor and seeing that I am not an admin, I won't have to deal with any ANI report that may or may not occur. thanks カンチョーSennen Goroshi ! (talk) 04:21, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Gratin

Actually, the page DOES say that Gratin is a method, not one dish. That's why potatoes are in their own section. If you'd like to use that section to make a distinction between cream and not, you may. However ,be aware, most of the current state is the result of multiple editors fighting a sock puppet who insists on converting gratin into a dictionary definition, forking out multiple pages, and then playing all sorts of games. He's been reported twice for socking and blocked, and is now back at the page in a new sock. A comparison of the editing patterns, styles, invocation with his first edits of policy, and topics, means this one's passed the duck test. I've tried to talk to this editor, but the editor is absolutely opposed to anything but his way. Please be careful in editing there. ThuranX (talk) 17:41, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

A little Barnstar

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For roux, a guy who is always working hard on Wikipedia!You should become an admin. ;) PrincessClown 17:26, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Thank you, that's very kind. //roux   16:20, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
I'd just like to second what she said- you really have thrown yourself into the project, adminship could be on its way. Gavin (talk) 23:49, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
That is astonishingly kind and generous coming from you, given our history. Thank you, very much. //roux   16:20, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Well, it is never good to live life with grudges- besides its true, you certainly have gotten into wikipedia in a big way. In time you will be an admin I'm sure. Gavin (talk) 02:50, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Roux. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 00:31, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the link, yeah I guess that was to be expected though- however I think we have all learned from past mistakes and so, given time Roux will be more than suitable. Gavin (talk) 00:38, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Let me know if you run again. Anybody who helps out like you're trying to do with me deserves more responsibility. Spinach Monster (talk) 20:55, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!

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New Reply To Convo

{{talkback|Spinach Monster|Edit Counter Thing}} 21:04, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

You're Probably Right

{{talkback|Spinach Monster|Edit Counter Thing}} 21:04, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Any Tips?

{{talkback|Spinach Monster|Edit Counter Thing#clarifying}} Spinach Monster (talk) 21:11, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Blueprints?

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Reply

{{talkback|Spinach Monster|Edit Counter}} 04:52, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

topic ban notice

Should I have something displayed on my user/talk pages stating that I am subject to a topic ban? カンチョーSennen Goroshi ! (talk) 03:47, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I think that is appropriate, yes. Copy/paste the section from ANI, put it as the top section on your talkpage. Or just a link at the top of your talkpage to a subpage (e.g. User:Sennen goroshi/topicban) with the information on it. //roux   04:51, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Will do, I am off to work now so it will have to wait. Thanks for dealing with this drama, I am sorry it had to come to this, I know it was a big waste of time for everyone involved. カンチョーSennen Goroshi ! (talk) 04:54, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I disagree

I am answering questions and helping many people out! --Accdude92 (Happy January!) 21:33, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Spreading the love ;P

You know you want it. Happy editing! Foxy Loxy Pounce! 11:42, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Comment

I invite no action or comment; but I wonder if it might be worthwhile for you to examine what I have posted as a "comment" at User talk:Tznkai#Note on the topic bans (Caspain Blue and Sennen goroshi)? Plausibly useful? --Tenmei (talk) 20:08, 30 January 2009 (UTC)