User talk:Rebbing/Archives/2016/February

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Fantastic user page!

Hi!

I just had to say that your user page is wonderful! I'm particularly fond of the two paintings of young ladies wearing beautiful dresses amid lovely flowers! I really should add images to my boring user page. Have a great day! Dontreader (talk) 08:05, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

@Dontreader: Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it. Perhaps you should add those two paintings to your own user page gallery.
My favorite is the Soviet painting with stylized pillars of society; I don't know what that style is called—I should pull out my old college art history textbook someday—but I find it profound (and also quite pretty with its rich blues and yellows).
Cheers! —  Rebbing  talk  17:24, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
That's a great idea! I definitely should add them to my user page. Sadly, I'm very primitive, so for me it's a struggle to add pictures and to do cool things in general on Wikipedia! I just know how to add pictures to the left side, and to the right side. Oh well, I can always try to just steal your code... after all, the few nice things on my user page are stolen concepts from other users! And on Commons all I do is nominate pictures for deletion... it's so much easier to destroy than to build!
The Soviet painting is really nice! I do appreciate the rich blues and yellows, but don't expect me to understand the meaning of it! I'm a simple guy. I can't handle "profound" things! I just love to behold young women wearing beautiful long dresses, with flowers in the foreground, or the background, or somewhere in between! Thanks for your kindness, and have a wonderful day! Dontreader (talk) 19:34, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Don't feel bad about not knowing things: Wikipedia didn't come naturally to me, and I'm a programmer. But I've spent a fair bit of time reading our documentation on technical things, style recommendations, and policy matters, and I've learned a ton in the last few months. Baby steps!

I especially thrill when I find out a new, simpler way to do something here. For example, I'm big on improving citations, and I recently discovered the {{r}} tag, a shorthand for <ref name=... />; it's especially nice for decluttering sentences with multiple citations: Foxes are cute.<ref name=Smith /><ref name=Jones /> simplifies to Foxes are cute.{{r|Smith|Jones}}.

Anyway, to make a gallery, there's the <gallery>...</gallery> tag: just list each image name on its own line like in a wikilink, except without the brackets, followed by an optional caption. If I wanted to make a gallery for flowery, whispy-looking women in long dresses, I might use something like:

== Young women with beautiful long dresses and flowers nearby ==
<gallery mode=packed-hover heights=350 style="font-size:30%">
File:Wilhelm Kotarbinski W ciszy wieczornej ok 1900.jpg|[[Wilhelm Kotarbiński]], Evening Silence (1900)
File:Wilhelm Kotarbinski Dziewczyna.jpg|[[Wilhelm Kotarbiński]], The Young Girl (c. 1900)
</gallery>

which would show up as:

Young women with beautiful long dresses and flowers nearby

Also, I'm skeptical there's such a thing as "simple" people: perhaps they haven't yet spent enough time lost in thought. Not that there's anything wrong with enjoying simple pleasures like human beauty. Cheers! —  Rebbing  talk  22:27, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Wow! That is absolutely awesome! Thanks so much! First of all, I happen to be a WikiGnome, and I focus a lot on fixing refs, so that new trick is grand! Other Wikipedians will think I'm a genius! And I'm blown away by the gallery technique! I pasted your code into my sandbox for further experimentation. I also pasted the code from the Wilhelm Kotarbiński article where those pictures are shown. The gallery code is different there. In your case, for some reason you linked to his article and you wrote the names of the paintings, yet they mysteriously don't show up! Anyway, I will try to add your code right under my lone barnstar on my user page. Hopefully things won't get chaotic if I find another similar amazing painting that I want to add to the gallery!
I hope you won't mind my saying this, but I think it's so sexy when a woman is such a smart programmer... so uncommon in America! Many thanks again for your wonderfully generous help! Dontreader (talk) 23:23, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
I did it! It's on my user page now, and oh my God, the link to the author and the names of the paintings show up when the cursor hovers over the lower portion of them! Totally amazing! Thanks again! I bow low!!! Dontreader (talk) 23:34, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Ha! Thank you. I'm glad I could help, and your revamped user page looks lovely.
Women everywhere—not just in America—shy away from programming. In school, my computer science senior class of sixty had only five—and it's not for lack of suitable girls and women. How ironic that I chose a profession that's mostly men, yet I prefer the company of other women! —  Rebbing  talk  20:03, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Speedy deletion request for user talk page

I see that you tagged User talk:Megabytes360 for speedy deletion as a userspace page of a user who does not exist. However, the user does exist: "does not exist" does not mean "exists and is blocked". In fact, a talk page of an indefinitely blocked editor needs to be kept for possible future reference: there are various situations in which the record of messages to the editor may be needed, such as if the editor request an unblock, or if he or she comes back with sockpuppet accounts. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 11:20, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Oh, that makes sense. Thanks for the explanation!  Rebbing  talk  15:26, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Bad speedy delete nomination of Rafael Serrano (cyclist)

This cyclist rode on a Professional Continental cycling team. All riders on this level of team meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines, as they can compete in world level events.--Seacactus 13 (talk) 14:11, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your note, but I must respectfully disagree. The information on the page (including this reference) appears to fall short of the criteria listed at WP:NCYC—which, contrary to your comment, does not provide a claim to notability merely for riding on a professional continental cycling team. —  Rebbing  talk  15:15, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

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Page deletion query

Hello,

I'm contacting you with regard to this page, BookNU, on which you recently placed a notice for deletion.

The topic has got multiple sources in regional languages, moreover it's also backed by a very famous Indian photography magazine as they have an article about BookNU. I agree that the number of sources on internet are less but whatsoever exists are from popular channels.

I'd be happy if you can review it again and arrive to a final decision.

Thank you :-) Getcharstar (talk) 18:45, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Getcharstar. The decision whether to delete BookNU is not up to me: it'll be decided by the consensus reached in the deletion discussion. As you asked, I took another look at the page, and it's clear to me that the subject of the article falls far short of our notability criteria outlined in WP:ORG and WP:GNG. That has nothing to do with BookNU's value; it's just a requirement for having an article on English Wikipedia. However, if there are reliable foreign-language sources covering BookNU, you're allowed to cite them in the article, and they'll be considered during the deletion process.
That said, I have some free advice for you about arguing around here:
  • You overstate the value of BookNU's mention on Better Photography's website. First off, anyone who looks at the website can tell it's a third-rate blog with little editorial oversight, not a respected source. Even if the article were in the New York Times, it wouldn't save the article because notability requires significant media coverage; a single mention anywhere is not enough. Moreover, on its own terms, the Better Photography article undercuts, rather than supports, BookNU's notability: it states that BookNU only operates in only one city (Uttar Pradesh) and has distributed a thousand donated books. My local food pantry distributes more meals than that every month, yet it's not notable. Also, the article in no way establishes that Better Photography "backs" BookNU: an anonymous writer at Better Photography wrote a 300-word piece, nothing more.
  • In the article's deletion discussion, it appears that 13.76.37.239 is associated with you and arguing on your behalf: he even advanced the same argument you did. That makes it look like you're trying to game the system, which won't make your case any more convincing: remember that consensus is about persuasiveness, not votes.
I wish you the best. —  Rebbing  talk  23:09, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
Hey, first of all, I don't know 13.76.37.239 and neither I'm associated with it. I did a who.is lookup and that IP is in fact from a different country and by Microsoft, and by no way Microsoft would sell proxy or anything, afaik. Possibly he actually know about BookNU and is therefore extending my argument(?). BTW, talking about Better Photography, it's a very famous Photography Magazine which primarily come in print form, like an actual magazine and is not just an online website. They are from Network18 and is a lot popular with its variety of outlets. As I live in India, so I can comment that a source from BP is valuable.
Anyway, let's see what consensus we reach upon. Thank you for the tips tho. Getcharstar (talk) 17:02, 22 February 2016 (UTC)