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Question from Ruwfe (14:41, 6 October 2022)

How do find incorrect grammar amongst all the words on a single page? --Ruwfe (talk) 14:41, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

@Ruwfe, grammar is just something you correct in an article when copyediting; it can't be searched for. Misspellings, on the other hand, can, such as with WP:Correct typos in one click. — Qwerfjkltalk 15:52, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Adding DuckDuckGo device-neutral Apple Maps front-end to GeoTemplate

You denied a previous request to add DuckDuckGo's OS-neutral Apple Maps front-end to GeoTemplate because the author of that request had not first sought consensus. I am now trying to seek such consensus with a talk page section there, but it has not attracted much discussion. If you have anything to add to the conversation, I would appreciate it. If not, I may soon officially request the change regardless of its inactivity. Thank you for your time and input. LinkTiger (talk) 20:53, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

@LinkTiger, to attract more attention, I would recommend starting a WP:RFC. — Qwerfjkltalk 21:15, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

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14:07, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #541

Rescuing from CFD

Hi, when you are closing CFDs as "delete" or one-sided merger, please check if there's anything worth rescuing. E.g. when Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 October 1#Category:Human activities with impact on the environment was closed as Delete rather than Merge, two of the sub-cats (Category:Transport and the environment and Category:Species made extinct by human activities) were still worth putting into the parent Category:Human impact on the environment. I selectively put a few articles back in as well. – Fayenatic London 14:28, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

CfD closure

Hi. You recently closed Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 October 2#Category:Thai national heritage films. As the category creator, I was never notified of the discussion, and would appreciate that it be relisted. Since this was an NAC, could you contact an admin to revert the JJMC89 bot actions? Thank you. --Paul 012 (talk) 06:19, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

@Paul 012, there is no requirement to notify the category creator. If you disagree with the closure, you can go to WP:DRV. — Qwerfjkltalk 15:44, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
What I was saying was that the lack of notification led to an inadequately informed discussion, which wasn't strong enough to establish consensus and would have benefited from relisting. But anyway, DRV opened at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2022 October 11#Category:Thai national heritage films. --Paul 012 (talk) 16:52, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

Question from Ameer al safar (03:53, 12 October 2022)

Hi Mentor,

Hope you are doing well. I would like to ask something. I am a small editor on Wikipedia. I edit film-related articles.

When I try to create an article about an artist named Vriddhi Vishal, a child artist and internet sensation, I found a disclaimer that the article deleted earlier. But when I had an Internet search, I think she has significant references. Is there any problem in creating the article? I believe I can create a good article about it!

I need an advice from you !! --Ameer al safar (talk) 03:53, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

@Ameer al safar, the article was deleted as a result of this AfD fairly recently, in March, so I doubt the subjects has become more notable since then. I wouldn't recommend creating an article about Vriddhi Vishal. — Qwerfjkltalk 06:08, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

@Mentor, Thanks for the advice. I will consider it later when it is eligible. Thank you. Also how can we check the deletion reason of an article like you sent? Ameer al safar (talk) 09:33, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

@Ameer al safar, you can see at Vriddhi Vishal in the red box, in the line saying: — Qwerfjkltalk 15:31, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors' October 2022 newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors October 2022 Newsletter

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Wikidata weekly summary #542

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MediaWiki message delivery 21:44, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Hi, I just noticed that this category was deleted. Since you closed the discussion, I thought I would ask if there is there any way to have that decision reconsidered? Frankly, the comments from the proposer and some of the others demonstrated a lack of knowledge of Upper Canada politics in the 19th century. The descendants of the Loyalists, born in Upper Canada, were a very influential political group, even though they themselves were not political refugees from the US, and don't fit within the definition of "Loyalist" used in either of the two articles on the topic. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 13:09, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

@Mr Serjeant Buzfuz, can you give some examples of UEL descendants, where that is WP:DEFINING for those people (the main objection)? — Qwerfjkltalk 15:24, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
It was the defining characteristic of the politics of two provinces which did not exist prior to the arrival of the Loyalists, Upper Canada and New Brunswick, as well as an entire sector of settlement in Lower Canada. Loyalty to the Crown became the significant ideology of those provinces. They were the descendants of political refugees who fled a revolution after losing their homes and property. Asking if it is a defining characteristic is sort of like asking if being the son or daughter of a political refugee from Cuba in Miami is a defining characteristic, or if being the son of an American revolutionary was a defining characteristic for politicians in the next generation after the Revolution. The ideology of the Revolution permeated US politics; the ideology of loyalty to the Crown permeated politics in Upper Canada, New Brunswick, and to some extent Lower Canada. I can give you a list of descendants of the political refugees from the US who were then involved in politics and governance in Upper Canada and New Brunswick in the first half of the 19th century. But it's not like there was a "United Empire Party" that elected members; it's that being the descendants of political refugees who lost their homes and fled for ideological reasons was the defining feature of politics in those provinces for a half-century. I'm also curious why there are categories for Sons of the American Revolution and Daughters of the American Revolution. Do you apply the same standard of defining characteristic to those categories? For people born two hundred years after the Revolution? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 12:42, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
Following up on that last point, I notice that Rosalynn Carter is listed in the category of "Daughters of the American Revolution", but there is nothing in her article that suggests that is a defining feature of her life and political views. Should she be deleted from that category? Similarly, George W. Bush is listed in the category of "Sons of the American Revolution", but there is nothing in his wiki article that suggests it is a defining feature for him, either. Should he be included in the category, if there is nothing in his article that mentions it? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 13:27, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
there’s also a process issue. For an issue that relates specifically to Canadian history, I think this deletion should have been listed at some of the Canadian wiki pages, so you would get comment from people with some knowledge of Canadian history, instead of comments from editors who have no idea why the category could be significant. Two good places to list it would be Wikipedia talk:WikiProject History of Canada and Wikipedia talk:Canadian Wikipedians' notice board. I only learnt the category had been deleted when editors started deleting it from bio pages of Upper Canadian politicians I follow. Advance notice would have been preferable. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 15:37, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

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Category not deleted yet

See Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 October 12#Category:American anti–illegal immigration activists, the category should be deleted by now, shouldn't it? You closed the discussion the 20th. Categories of other discussions you closed that day have been deleted. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:42, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

@Marcocapelle, added here, thanks for spotting. Qwerfjkltalk 08:37, 23 October 2022 (UTC)