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November 2008

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July 2009

  1. Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Llama, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. BlindEagletalk~contribs 21:51, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Please see WP:MOS: the second and subsequent letters of headings are not supposed to be capitalized. --Rschen7754 (T C) 01:10, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

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Greetings from WikiProject California!

Welcome to WikiProject California!

I noticed you recently added yourself to our Participants' list, and I wanted to welcome you to our project. Our goal is to facilitate collaboration on California-related articles, and everyone is welcome to join. Here are some suggested activities:

As a member it would be helpful if you would

If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask at the project talk page, or feel free to ask me on my talk page.

Again, welcome!  -Optigan13 (talk) 06:01, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

California county routes

We are considering merging all the county routes into a list. Please contribute to the discussion at WT:USRD. —Scott5114 [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 09:49, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

January 2010

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. When you make a change to an article, please provide an edit summary for your edits. Doing so helps everyone to understand the intention of your edit. It is also useful when reading the edit history of the page. Thank you. Rschen7754 07:55, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

California County Route S1

Just a note, <references></references> are tags not templates. They are equivalent to <references/>. The net result of the two edits is to change the former to the latter, which is good. Rich Farmbrough, 16:40, 24 January 2010 (UTC).

February 2010

Welcome to Wikipedia. The recent edit that you made to the page Talk:Mesa Verde Middle School (Rancho Peñasquitos) has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Please use the sandbox for testing any edits; if you believe the edit was constructive, please ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing for further information. Thank you. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 15:50, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

California CRs

County routes are not important enough to have their own articles. Additionally, the articles that we have now are not well developed. As a result, to avoid losing the content to WP:AFD, we are merging them all. The zone A and E articles have also been merged. The only reason the S and G articles haven't been merged is because there's so many routes it will take extra time that we don't really have. You're welcome to perform the merge if desired.

Perhaps you would be interested in expanding some state route articles? California has about 91 state route articles that need expansion. —Scott5114 [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 03:12, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Well, that is to be commended. If you're willing to put that effort into some articles that do need the help, I'd suggest looking at the state route articles in Category:Stub-Class California road transport articles. Most of these already have junction lists, and need more detailed route descriptions and history. Take a look at Oklahoma State Highway 58 as an example for where we want to go with the state route articles. —Scott5114 [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 04:29, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

MOS

It's Route description, not Route Description. Same with Major intersections, Exit list, etc. --Rschen7754 02:23, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Don't directly paste material off websites into articles. That's a violation of copyright, and it will be removed on sight by other editors, as I have. It's not enough to just credit the website as a source. You need to at least make an attempt to present the information in a different form than the exact language used. Also, the site you used is not a reliable source so it shouldn't be used in the first place. Imzadi1979 (talk) 06:27, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Add New Mexico State Road 13 to the list of offenses. You need to change more than a few words. Imzadi1979 (talk) 06:31, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
P.S. If you're going to create an article, please create the associated talkpage and put the {{ U.S. Roads WikiProject}} template there. This year, we do have a drive to cut the total number of stub articles in half. Your article creations, unless you're going to expand them further, work against that drive. For every article you've created lately, that's one more stub added to the count, and one more stub to expand. There are literally thousands of articles out there that need expansion. Please help contribute there. Imzadi1979 (talk) 07:04, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry. I was going to expand and improve them, but I didn't have the time that day. I will expand and rephrase the words. Pzoxicuvybtnrm 15:26, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Then a suggestion, not that what I'm about to say is much better, but there's a option. If you enclose anything in HTML comment tags, aka <!-- -->, then that content will be in the article, but it won't be visible to others unless they're in edit mode. That way at least you'd have your "notes", but a copyright violation wouldn't be visible to the public. We've had several of these roadgeek website creators in the past complain, and rightfully so, of flagrant abuses of copyright when they've found their information copied verbatim into Wikipedia articles. Please don't do it again, ok?
Another suggestion I have. Don't start a brand new article unless you fully intend to get it at least to start or C-class. That means two of the big three sections started and mostly complete (start) or all three sections (C). The "major intersections", "junction list" or "exit list" section is usually the easiest to create, even if you don't have mileposts right away. I find the second easiest section is often a toss-up between the route description or the history, depending on sources. The RD is often easier because you probably have at least one road atlas or folding road map plus one of the online mapping services. Don't use just one map, consult several. In Michigan, National Forest and State Forest areas aren't shown on the MDOT official maps, but they are in the Rand McNally Atlas. Of course the individual road and street names for highways are on Google or Yahoo maps. Finally, MDOT's Control Section Atlas maps have the township and city/village boundaries indicated which is useful for the exact locations of junctions. (The CS Atlas is a must source for the major intersections list in Michigan because it gives the distances between control section termini to the nearest 0.001 mile, and the township locations. Since all of Michigan land is incorporated at least on the township level, all junctions can be listed in some location.) For History sections, the various roadgeek websites are a great starting point, but since they're all self-published sources, they can't be used as the final reference for that section. I will start with http://www.michiganhighways.org as a basis for my research into the history of a highway in Michigan, but expand out from there. I cross-reference everything that Chris Bessert has written on his website to what the old MSHD/MDOT maps say. Sometimes I find errors in his site. Lately I've been finding a lot of good stuff on Google's News Archives. (Most of the history for the Interstate 275 (Michigan) came from news articles I found through the searches there.) Other newspapers may have their archives online directly. Since the maps or newspaper articles are my final word, I use them as the cited sources. Then I put a link to the Michigan Highways listing in the External links section. Get used to changing out your references earlier rather than later, because SPSs shouldn't be accepted at all in Good Articles, and they certainly won't be accepted in Featured Articles. ACR should force you to change them out if they did get accepted in a Good Article review, but honestly once you know how, make the correction earlier rather than later. (Plus, some of the webmasters for the roadgeek sites get angry if you use their sites as a source, but not if it's just a link at the bottom.)
The best thing I've found is to stick with a small group of states, or even just one state. That way you can learn where all the good sources online are for that state. I stick with Michigan, and I know where to go to get information that isn't posted online, complete with a contact at MDOT. He might not have the answer, but he knows who I need to e-mail to get the answer.
I hope this helps. Feel free to ask any of us at WP:USRD if you have questions. Imzadi1979 (talk) 17:01, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
Well, I normally stick with California, but I felt adventurous that day. Thanks for the tips; they'll be useful for expanding some stubs I've seen. Pzoxicuvybtnrm 00:01, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Junction list section titles

Interchange list is not a standard title to be using. I've noticed you've used that on non-freeway articles, which is very wrong. The current project-accepted titles are:

Exit list: lists all exits along a freeway
Major intersections: lists all "major intersections", usually all the junctions with other state highways
Junction list: same as Major intersections, just an alternate term in some states

If a highway is a mix of freeway and at-grade segments, a combine list with either title is appropriate. Imzadi1979 (talk) 16:51, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Colorado State Highway 35

Hello! Your submission of Colorado State Highway 35 at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Royalbroil 22:55, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Add me as another person that you can ask with questions about highways. I don't necessarily agree the comment above that at you should be posting only start or C class articles - there's a place for smaller "stub" articles to get the ball rolling. I was part of the Wisconsin Roads WikiProject before it closed and I've uploaded many hundreds (perhaps over 1000?) photographs on highways around Wisconsin. For an article to be featured on DYK, it needs to have at least 2000 characters of text, not be plagiarism, and be in good shape with inline citations from reliable sources. Royalbroil 22:55, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
The key to my comments was intent. Too many stub articles are created and then left. WP:USRD has a drive this year to halve the number of stubs from 5934 at the start of the year to 2967 at the end of the year. The project is currently at 5618 stubs. It's an ambitious goal, but attainable if new and older articles can be expanded past the stub stage, which as I outlined is easy. RD sections and junction lists are easy to create, making start-class articles. Imzadi1979 (talk) 01:07, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
I was replying to RoyalBroil's comments. Imzadi1979 (talk) 01:28, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

I would recommend withdrawing the GAN; there's little chance of it passing. --Rschen7754 20:15, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Got it. How? Pzoxicuvybtnrm 23:45, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Basically just undo everything you did. --Rschen7754 23:52, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Nominating and article at GAN with an unresolved cleanup tag is never a good idea. Without reading through, I noticed much of the article is not referenced, which is another major problem for GAN.
If you really want to improve this or any article to GA, I would suggest looking over other examples to see the quality of prose, style and referencing. A list can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Recognized content. --LJ (talk) 01:57, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

A tag has been placed on Interstate 25 Business (Walsenburg, Colorado) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content. You may wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. peterl (talk) 02:28, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Colorado State Highway 35

Updated DYK query On March 27, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Colorado State Highway 35, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

-- Cirt (talk) 15:26, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Join the WP:USRDCUP 2010!

We're going to go ahead and try this again! The contest will begin April 1. It is a contest to encourage editors to improve teh quality of WP:USRD articles and participate in USRD. Precautions will be taken to make sure that people do not "game the system" and bring article quality down. Please sign up ASAP! Announcements regarding the contest will be made at WP:USRDCUP, Twitter, and/or IRC. --Rschen7754 06:51, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Recent GA noms

I just reviewed Interstate 25 in Colorado at WP:GAN and failed it as it does not meet the good article criteria, as was the case with California State Route 56. Before you nominate an article at GAN, you should first take a look to make sure it meets the criteria for good articles. ---Dough4872 02:11, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Q about merging I-70 Business (Grand Junction) with I-70 in Colorado

Howdy, I would like to discuss the merger you did with I-70 Business (Grand Junction) with I-70 in Colorado. Per the Colorado Deperatment of Transportation's route log ([1], enter 70,0,500 in the 3 form blanks to display) there are 12 or so I-70 business loops and spurs in Colorado (The Grand junction one is identified as 070B and 070Z in the route log). However, most of these will probably never have articles and I doubt some are even signed. So.... If the Grand Junction loop is the only "notable" one, what you did is probably correct, to combine the articles. However if any of the others are notable enough for articles, it's probably best to keep them on a separate page. Thoughts? If the GJ business loop does stay on the Colorado article, at a minimum, the infobox should be removed and the cats moved to the redirect. Thoughts? Dave (talk) 22:37, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

If there is already 2nd article for an I-70 business loop in colorado. I would say to combine those into a single page (something like List of Interstate 70 Business Loops in Colorado or something, and link from the I-70 in Colorado article. However, if this is the only business loop with an article, I'd say lets leave your merge in tact, and just do a little cleanup for now. I have asked some others for their opinions also. Dave (talk) 23:12, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Colorado State Highway 257

Hello! Your submission of Colorado State Highway 257 at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Bradjamesbrown (talk) 08:03, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Re: Penalties

Off the top, CO 14 is not B standards and I will not accept promoting something like it. Two, you have self-published sources everywhere in the history. There are other problems in MOS policy and as a result I docked you about 2/3 what you would have gotten because I don't want articles promoted to classes they don't deserve.Mitch32(We the people in order to form a more perfect union.) 21:18, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Just a question

Do you know this Shadowace1134 that keeps making edits on your user page? It's strange that someone doesn't do anything but edit your page, or an article you've worked on recently. Imzadi 1979  23:50, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Please don't accuse me of sock puppetry. Shadowace1134 is a way for me to edit my own user page without clogging my user contributions with my user page edits. My user page edits already account for about a tenth of my user edits, so I decided to make this account. Then one day, I was editing my user page and forgot to switch back, so there's the couple of edits on Interstate 25 in Colorado. Otherwise, I'm not going to use this account for anything else (like sock puppetry) and I thus believe this is a perfectly legitimate account and follows Wikipedia's policy. --PCB 23:59, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
I advise you to state this at User:Shadowace1134. Imzadi just happened to notice some suspicious activity. However, if anybody ever accuses you of anything, even if untrue, some administrator will investigate the issue and discover your undisclosed alternate accounts. That will most likely cause the investigating administrator to distrust you, and you will have a difficult time defending yourself. However, if your alternate accounts are disclosed, that will help your credibility in the future. Dave (talk) 06:23, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Colorado State Highway 149

Hello! Your submission of Colorado State Highway 149 at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! cmadler (talk) 16:49, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Colorado State Highway 16

Hello! Your submission of Colorado State Highway 16 at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Cryptic C62 · Talk 04:56, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Colorado State Highway 257

Updated DYK query On April 9, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Colorado State Highway 257, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 14:43, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Recent edits, part II

I closed your ACR nomination of Eisenhower Tunnel since you were not a major contributor to the article. Also, don't update the table in the middle of the week. You know that I will do it. I was waiting until after midnight tonight so that the bot would run its daily updates to the tables. The bot runs at midnight UTC (8pm EDT) and I gave it 4 hours to finish the tasks, and then some time for myself to make the manual updates. When you update only select sections of the table, it can distort the results. We have the live updating table at WP:USRD/A/L if you want immediate gratification. Imzadi 1979  05:45, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Colorado State Highway 57

Hello! Your submission of Colorado State Highway 57 at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! ErinM 06:04, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

I've expanded the article by a miniscule amount; it should pass the size requirement now. Nyttend (talk) 16:51, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Colorado State Highway 57

Updated DYK query On April 13, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Colorado State Highway 57, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 23:33, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Colorado State Highway 58

Hello! Your submission of Colorado State Highway 58 at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! cmadler (talk) 12:05, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Your edits to Nevada highway articles

I've reverted many of your recent redirects to Nevada State Route articles. While it is desirable to reduce the amount of stubs by merging or redirecting whenever possible, these weren't really well thought out due to the complex history and alignments of these routes. You also completely blanked the original page, eliminating categorization that should have been retained regardless of whether the page was being redirected. Please be a little more judicious in the future and not just merge/redirect stub articles blindly. Even though USRD has set a major goal with its stub elimination drive, stubs shouldn't be eliminated haphazardly just for the sake of reducing the stub count. Thanks. -- LJ  08:15, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Need a hand?

If you need some tips, find me on IRC. I'd be glad to help you out. —Fredddie 23:27, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Likewise. we only want to help you improve. Imzadi 1979  23:28, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

As a way to help out with your writing, I've set up User:Pzoxicuvybtnrm/Pennsylvania Route 179 to see what you can do in improving your writing. I have listed everything you should put in the article and I suggest being detailed, an important part of writing on Wiki. I have provided you citations and the external links. I have also made User:Pzoxicuvybtnrm/monobook.js, equipped with Reftools, so you can make good cite web, news, maps, etc of citations. Good luck!Mitch32(Growing up with Wikipedia: 1 edit at a time.) 00:11, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

GA Hold.

Please see Talk:Interstate 680 (California)/GA1 for more information. Article is on GA hold. Chris (talk) 13:39, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

As a follow-up to the work on fixing this article, are you done? If so. please advise. Chris (talk) 20:06, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Passed GA. Good job. Chris (talk) 15:14, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Thank you. --PCB 00:14, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Copyedit or not to copyedit?

Re: [2] Do you still want me to take a look at that article? Dave (talk) 05:05, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Sure. Sorry about the misunderstanding, but it wasn't too urgent after I removed the request. Thanks. --PCB 00:52, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
OK. My work schedule is pretty crazy until the end of the month. I'll get to it, but give me time. Dave (talk) 05:10, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
It's alright if you don't get to it. --PCB 05:26, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Should Colorado State Highway 64 go for a GA?

I've expanded it, and want to know if it can. You can get co-credit if you fix all of the problems, since I will have left on vacation. Buggie111 (talk) 20:13, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

No, Colorado State Highway 64 should not go to GA yet. There a couple of problems. First, Reference 2 (Salek) is what Wikipedia calls a self-published source, which makes it uneligible for GA. I know I use the source for other articles, but going to GA with it won't work. You'll need a couple more references, preferably written by CDOT. Also, the page needs a junction list to go to at least C. Sorry, but there are just some things I can't fix myself. --PCB 22:38, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm trying to open Highways to the sky right now. Thanks for your pointer on the Junction list. Buggie111 (talk) 14:48, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
That's polite of them to give us ten state highways with history! I'll take 74. Buggie111 (talk) 14:59, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm working on 74 right now (in a notepad file). --PCB 18:33, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
The DYK looks good. I'll forget about Colorado Highways for now. Buggie111 (talk) 01:40, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

The article List of business routes of Interstate 70 in Colorado has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

non-notable topic, WP is not a directory.

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{dated prod}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 00:53, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

IRC

Get on IRC when you get a chance. We want to ask you something. —Fredddie 01:12, 28 May 2010 (UTC)