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A tag has been placed on Mixtape.gr, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because it is an article about a certain website, blog, forum, or other web content that does not assert the importance or significance of that web location. Please read our criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 7 under Articles, as well as notability guidelines for websites. Please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources which verify their content.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. To contest the tagging and request that administrators wait a while for you to add contextual material, please affix the template {{hangon}} to the page, and put a note on Talk:Mixtape.gr. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Thanks. DarkSaber2k 10:09, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A tag has been placed on Abbie Gale, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that you can assert the notability of the subject, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 13:57, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

About Abbie Gale's deletion[edit]

Thanks for your note: Hi Dlohcierekim, i am not an experienced user of wikipedia, i admit. but there are plenty of things from greek culture, i.e i could contribute with. abbie gale are one of the most promising and acclaimed bands. thus, i can not see any reason why they should not be included on wikipedia.

Anyway, the truth is i am very dissapointed with "Abbie Gale" and "Raining Pleasure" (the most successfull band in Greece) editing in wikipedia. And i honestly i am fed up with trying to edit their page and someone else deleting it. I.e i recently added a link to their new single. the first online spot where their nw single could be listened to. somebody deleted it.

I am just trying to figure out why. Any ideas? :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Potis1980 (talkcontribs) 15:29, 28 September 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Hello, Potis. It appears they do not meet our guideline, WP:Music. Apparently, the article met criteria for speedy deletion: "No assertion of importance/significance. An article about a real person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content that does not state why its subject is important or significant. This is distinct from questions of notability, verifiability and reliability of sources. If controversial, list the article at Articles for deletion instead.

Don't be discouraged. My first article was speedily deleted too.

WP:Music says:

There are many bands, singers and other musicians and musical ensembles with articles on Wikipedia (see Category:Musicians).

A musician or ensemble (note that this includes a band, singer, rapper, orchestra, DJ, musical theatre group, etc.) is notable if it meets any one of the following criteria:

  1. It has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician/ensemble itself and reliable.[1]
    • This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, and television documentaries[2] except for the following:
      • Media reprints of press releases, other publications where the musician/ensemble talks about themselves, and advertising for the musician/ensemble.
      • Works comprising merely trivial coverage, such as newspaper articles that simply report performance dates or the publications of contact and booking details in directories.
      • An article in a school or university newspaper (or similar) would generally be considered trivial but should be evaluated on a case-by-case basis.
  2. Has had a charted hit on any national music chart.
  3. Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country.
  4. Has gone on an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country, reported in reliable sources.[3]
  5. Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels (i.e. an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable).
  6. Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable; note that it is often most appropriate to use redirects in place of articles on side projects, early bands and such.
  7. Has become the most prominent representative of a notable style or of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability.
  8. Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury or Grammis award.
  9. Has won or placed in a major music competition.
  10. Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g. a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a compilation album, etc. (But if this is the only claim, it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article and redirect to that page.)
  11. Has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network.
  12. Has been the subject of a half hour or longer broadcast across a national radio or TV network.

Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 16:57, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note. Know better than what? I left pretty clear guidelines for notability in my previous post. If the info you left on my talkpage had been in the article, it would have asserted nobility. I would not have tagged it. An admin (I wasn't one then.) would not have deleted it. Feel free to recreate the article with the information you left on my talk page, if you can provide verifiable sources. Cheers and happy editing. Dlohcierekim 18:14, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ Self-promotion and product placement are not the routes to having an encyclopaedia article. The published works must be someone else writing about the musician, ensemble, composer, or lyricist. (See Wikipedia:Attribution#Self-published sources for details about the reliability of self-published sources, and Wikipedia:Conflict of interest for treatment of promotional, vanity material.) The barometer of notability is whether people independent of the subject itself have actually considered the musician, ensemble, composer, or lyricist notable enough that they have written and published non-trivial works that focus upon it. The rationale for this is easy to see -- someone simply talking about themselves in their own personal blog, website, book publisher, etc. does not automatically mean they have sufficient attention in the world at large to be called notable. If that was so then everyone could have an article. Wikipedia is not a directory.
  2. ^ What constitutes a "published work" is deliberately broad.
  3. ^ The application of this criterion is disputed; see discussion on talk page.