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I archived all of my previous talk pages. Oldag07 (talk) 21:45, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Incorrect 4im Warning

Hello Oldag,

I noticed you have incorrectly used a 4im warning for a good-faith edit from an IP. Please explain why you have done so. by Kevin12cd Talk to me This was posted at 22:59, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

I guess I didn't assume good faith considering his previous edits. Oldag07 (talk) 23:19, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
I have to concur, that does not seem like a "good faith" edit...like this one: pooppooppooppooppooppooppooppooppooppooppooppooppooppooppooppoop... Buffs (talk) 14:07, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
Essentially, it's not just the application that was incorrect, it was the usage of the warning that was incorrect. The IP has recieved several warnings before. Also, please explain why you believe the edit was unconstructive. Cheers!

by Kevin12cd Talk to me This was posted at 15:51, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Honestly, I don't know why the edit was bad. I just don't trust the user and I didn't want what had a high probability of being vandalism to stay on those pages. Oldag07 (talk) 02:41, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
Okay. Next time, please confirm that the edit was indeed unconstructive. Cheers!

by Kevin12cd Talk to me This was posted at 22:49, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia Loves Libraries Seattle

Decemmber 8 - Wikipedia Loves Libraries Seattle - You're invited
Seattle Public Library
  • Date Saturday, December 8, 2012
  • Time 10 a.m. – 3 p.m.
  • Location Seattle Public Library Meeting Room 1 on Level 4, Central Library, 1000 4th Avenue, Seattle WA, 98104
  • Event An editathon on Seattle-related Wikipedia articles with Wikipedia tutorials and Librarian assistance on hand.
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Ship class articles and italics

Please go through all of the ship class articles that you are blithely adding italics to and make sure that you're doing it right. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (ships) for the correct and incorrect usage of italics. In a nutshell, classes named for a member of the class have italicized titles; all others are no italicized. Please fix those that you have broken.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 04:04, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

It is correct. Oldag07 (talk) 04:08, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
What does that mean? it is correct? You italicized Borei-class submarine which should not have been italicized; you italicized Bay-class minesweeper which should not have been italicized. There are probably others. I repeat my request: Please fix those that you have broken.
—Trappist the monk (talk) 04:20, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
There are close to 1700 "class" articles that do not have proper titles. I really don't know anything about these ships, nor am I going to look up if each class is named after a ship of that particular class. I will stop making edits to see if I can fix my editing process, but there are going to be some classes that I am simply going to miss. Oldag07 (talk) 04:24, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
"I really don't know anything about these ships, nor am I going to look up if each class is named after a ship of that particular class." Seriously? If you don't know enough about the subject to do the job properly, and you're not prepared to look up what you need to know to do the job properly, why are you trying to do the job?
You also need to be aware that you're using the wrong markup. DISPLAYTITLE is a magic word, not a template, and it uses a colon, not a pipe. For example, {{DISPLAYTITLE|''Bullfinch''-class destroyer}} should be {{DISPLAYTITLE:''Bullfinch''-class destroyer}}
— Paul A (talk) 05:58, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Why not? No one complained when I did the majority of the ships (all the HMS ships, the USS ships, etc). Why do I want to do it? I am bored. These are improperly titled pages. I tried to get someone on the bot page to fix it, but no one wanted to program it. So I am doing in manually. This is an all volunteer encyclopedia. I really don't want to put the extra time into researching all 2000 ship classes out there. If you want to, be my guest. Oldag07 (talk) 06:07, 19 February 2013 (UTC) (Modified several times)
Yes, this is an all-volunteer encyclopedia. That's one of the reasons this is bothering me. When you do bad work, other people – other volunteers – have to give up their time to follow in your footsteps and fix the things you should have done right in the first place. Do you think anybody else wants to put in the extra time, any more than you do?
I sympathise with being bored and wanting a mindless job to pass the time (I've been there myself) but this is not one of those jobs. Fixing incorrectly-titled pages requires that you know enough about the subject to recognise which pages are incorrectly titled, and to know what to correct them to. If you don't know enough about the subject (which you've admitted you don't), and you're not willing to spend a few seconds per page to learn what you need to know (which you've admitted you aren't), it would be better if you found some other way to lighten your boredom, and left this job to the people who do and who are.
— Paul A (talk) 07:12, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I understand your frustration that some of these pages should not be italicized. Most should. I tried to clean up the ones that I knew where wrong, and I fixed the template, DISPLAYTITLE. However, as the quote says, "the needs of the many outways the needs of the few". Considering the fact that most of the pages were neglected enough not to have italics in their titles, overall, a massive campaign to italicize ship names does far more good then damage. Oldag07 (talk) 14:01, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for fixing the DISPLAYTITLE markup, anyway. And I admit that you are doing a lot of good work; thank you for that, too. — Paul A (talk) 06:22, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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Battle of Malta

Sure thing, go for it . There is a disambiguation page out there on the battle of malta, you'll have to edit the links there too. Let me know if you need any help doing that MaltaMonti (talk) 06:39, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

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Star Trek

There are two links to J. J. Abrams in the article, and three links to Star Trek (film), but even if there were more the links I added are necessary, because it's the top of the page. Also, the first thing that many people look at in an article is the infobox. --Homerland (talk) 17:26, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Three in-line links. --Homerland (talk) 17:29, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Maybe we can add the links to the infobox and remove a few of them in the article. That seems like a good compromise. Oldag07 (talk) 21:02, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
I just don't see which ones. There aren't that many.
Thanks for the heads-up! --Homerland (talk) 23:35, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

moving Battle of Malta Poker

Hi Oldag, Good with the page move, apologies about the delayed response. Thank you for asking. MaltaMonti (talk) 06:30, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

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GROAD '71

Howdy, Thanx for properly formatting my edit to A&M Glossary. How do I add citation as this is from personal experience v having read it somewhere else, kindly advise for my edit. Gig'em GROAD '71 68.121.111.79 (talk) 06:26, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

I moved this here. Oldag07 (talk) 19:37, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
replied here User talk:GROAD '71

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We'd like to use your "Hook'em..." image.

Howdy Oldag07, we have a small merchandising business...soon to hopefully grow. How might we use your (modified) "Hook'em Hand" with our state mantra/tagline to propose merchandise design to TU? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiksmith (talk • contribs) 14:14, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

I am not sure how the licensing stuff works from the UT Austin side of things. As long as you give me credit somewhere I am happy. I can send you an email giving you official permission if you want for my specific graphic. Just give me your website or an email address, and I can send it over. Obviously, I can't make money from the graphic anyways, UT owns that trademark. I am honored you like my stuff. Oldag07 (talk) 17:32, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Star Trek

Please note that, per WP:RS/IMDb, IMDb is not considered a reliable source and should not be used in citations. Thanks! DonIago (talk) 15:41, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Texas Wikimedians user group and meetups

Hi Oldag! I'd like to let you know about, and invite you to join the proposed Texas Wikimedians user group. Also, on more of a national scale, perhaps you would like to participate at WikiConference USA.--Pharos (talk) 23:46, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

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Automated grammar clean-up

Howdy. Could you review your recent pass of automated edits and ensure you did not clean up any more direct quotes? At least one instance was fixed here. Thanks! Kuru (talk) 22:35, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Sorry. . . . I guess i wasn't careful enough. I am trying.Oldag07 (talk) 22:36, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
Totally not a problem; it happens quite a bit since many quotes are grammarian-bait... maybe we need more [sic]'s about... Kuru (talk) 22:40, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi Oldag07: I too have noticed some problems here there are several instances where "manner in which" → "how" ends up not being grammatical: " and the how their upbringing might contribute to these problem". At line 126 here sense is lost in deleting "in order" I think it is important to have the causal relationship established. These are the only two pages I've looked at so far, but please please be careful with automated tools. On a related note, did this script get vetted by WP:BAG before you implemented it? Regards, Crazynas t 23:50, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

I am experimenting with it. I guess I'll quit. I was thought in technical writing to remove "in order to". It is a stylistic choice. Oldag07 (talk) 00:29, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

I based the edits around these sites that were suggested by my professor some 7 years ago.

Oldag07 (talk) 00:36, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

I personally have no problem with you experimenting with it. I'm just asking you to be careful. Crazynas t 04:19, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
I second that motion. Going around replacing instances of "demonstrate" with "show" because some random dude on the internet said it's "deadwood" is just wasting other people's time. Every time you try to "improve" the style with a bot, other editors have to check to make sure nothing got messed up. Current bot technology is simply not capable of doing that kind of editing reliably. Fixing template fields is one thing, but when you start messing around with natural language, you can't just search and replace. Tarchon (talk) 18:33, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
I don't think you're being careful enough. 90% or even 95% accuracy is good, but not good enough for this. The policy is here: "Correcting spelling, grammar, or punctuation mistakes." And as you do not appear to be reviewing your edits [3] you are subject to bot policy. Please stop. Crazynas t 19:33, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Edits to Salamander (legendary creature)

Where you removed "in fact," that's not a parenthetical "in fact," it's "founded in fact". I assume you're using a script or something, but not every instance of the phrase "in fact" is "deadwood" as you call it. The words actually do mean something.

"which are founded in fact on some level" to "which are founded on some level" - that doesn't make sense.

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