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Feedback request: Politics, government, and law request for comment[edit]

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The gift of humus[edit]

This humus is for you.Bellow me and hunker down (talk) 22:39, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bellow me and hunker down (talk) has given you a plate of hummus! Hummus is a specialty of the Middle East. With some pita bread, they are delicious and promote WikiLove. Hopefully, this one has added flavor to your day.


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Possible edit warring[edit]

There seems to be some conflict going on between users here.

RHF 19 (talk) 22:25, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from GamerSquadAmmar (00:54, 16 May 2022)[edit]

Hello Are You My Mentor If yes I’m buying you 16 Billion Dollars If No I’m Gonna Make You A Famous Mentor And A Famous Rapper --GamerSquadAmmar (talk) 00:54, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@GamerSquadAmmar I am indeed your mentor, and though I would not turn down 16 billion dollars (I'll probably leave being a famous rapper to another), let me know if you've got any editing questions. Nosebagbear (talk) 08:21, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022[edit]

New Page Review queue March 2022

Hello Nosebagbear,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.

Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.

In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently 812 New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All 861 administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.

This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.

If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, do suggest they help the effort by placing {{subst:NPR invite}} on their talk page.

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Answer to major questions in life #1[edit]

Oshwah was the unfortunate editor to restart the Stocks. See section 1.16 for the Filter Failure Award. Clovermoss (talk) 05:19, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And I totally agree with you about the creepy oversight logo, lol. Clovermoss (talk) 05:20, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, thank you for the Stocks update - an excellent addition to the list, for the modern wikipedia. Nosebagbear (talk) 12:15, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Aww, c'mon, that's harsh! It was a typo... ONE TYPO! :-P ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:48, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Oshwah I mean, it puts you in a possibly unique category, of being both victim and actor on the STOCKS page. Nosebagbear (talk) 09:56, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nosebagbear - I mean... is th-that... a good thing? Or a bad thing? ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:10, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Oshwah: Take it however you want. The main reason I find the Stocks interesting is because it shows us everyone makes mistakes and also that sometimes actions have unintended consquences. At least you didn't delete the main page. To be fair, it's hard to top something like that. Sometimes life is a lot more interesting than fiction. Reality can be unrealistic, lol. Clovermoss (talk) 05:04, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback request: Politics, government, and law request for comment[edit]

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Administrators' newsletter – June 2022[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2022).

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • Administrators using the mobile web interface can now access Special:Block directly from user pages. (T307341)
  • The IP Info feature has been deployed to all wikis as a Beta Feature. Any autoconfirmed user may enable the feature using the "IP info" checkbox under Preferences → Beta features. Autoconfirmed users will be able to access basic information about an IP address that includes the country and connection method. Those with advanced privileges (admin, bureaucrat, checkuser) will have access to extra information that includes the Internet Service Provider and more specific location.

Arbitration

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Hello[edit]

I just sent a draft for review and there seems to be a long queue. Just wondered if you may please take a look: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Alberto_Caballero_(astronomer) Thank you Iberastro (talk) 22:18, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback request: History Good Article nomination[edit]

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Question from Adenoghie (14:40, 11 June 2022)[edit]

What's the best way to write a nobility article. --forthekingdom 14:40, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

DeAna Fai moved to draftspace[edit]

An article you recently created, DeAna Fai, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Ravensfire (talk) 22:18, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Ravensfire just to let you know that you might need to manually follow-up with the actual person who created the article, as I did not - Twinkle never plays well when someone else has interacted with the draft move log. Nosebagbear (talk) 08:52, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for that, and I greatly appreciate the note on this. I'll let the actual creator know (appears to be an auto biography) that it's been moved. Ravensfire (talk) 16:02, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from RyanwebbOEUK (15:19, 13 June 2022)[edit]

Hi there, I'm updating my company's wiki page as we now have a new name, website, and a slight change to our products. I have already 'cited' the above changes, but they have been changed back by a user who is actually changing information back to something which is incorrect. Our webpage is out of date, and so is our name.

What can I do to prevent continuously changing back and forth? --RyanwebbOEUK (talk) 15:19, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @RyanwebbOEUK I see someone's already talking to you about the specifics of disclosure, so I'll leave that to them.
As a paid editor, your edits were always vulnerable to being reverted - unless you're doing something like removing blatant vandalism, you need to submit them on the talk page. I suggest using the edit requester, because it'll bring someone along to actually review the edits.
When you request edits, it's better to make a few specific requests rather than one giant one. E.g. one to change all the names (and the name of the article), one to change the website and so on. <https://www.rigzone.com/news/what_it_takes_to_change_a_name_in_oil-02-feb-2022-167777-article/> is a good source to use here. Nosebagbear (talk) 17:05, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Link to the talk page for convenience. Nosebagbear (talk) 17:05, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from MisterURL (00:00, 16 June 2022)[edit]

There is an article on Colonial Pipeline Company that I feel needs some editing. It makes no mention of the automation and control systems that allowed the pipeline to continuously grow and improve throughput over time. I know because I worked directly in that field from 1966 until 2002. But there are no easily accessible source references. Should I just forget this addition and let it go? --MisterURL (talk) 00:00, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@MisterURL if there are no suitable sources then indeed it can't be added. Reliable, secondary, sources don't need to be online or non paywall blocked, but such amendments do sound unlikely to have acquired secondary sources. If that is the case then yes, it would not be possible to add content about them Nosebagbear (talk) 09:42, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Invited[edit]

 Invited

Hello Nosebagbear: You are invited to take part in my new game show. Previously, you took part in my last YouTube-related event, so you may enjoy this one! If not, I still appreciate all you do.
Cheers, –MJL ‐Talk‐☖

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New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022[edit]

New Page Review queue June 2022

Hello Nosebagbear,

Backlog status

At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000[a] at the end of May.

Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.[b]

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).

Backlog drive

A backlog reduction drive, coordinated by buidhe and Zippybonzo, will be held from July 1 to July 31. Sign up here. Barnstars will be awarded.

TIP – New school articles

Many new articles on schools are being created by new users in developing and/or non-English-speaking countries. The authors are probably not even aware of Wikipedia's projects and policy pages. WP:WPSCH/AG has some excellent advice and resources specifically written for these users. Reviewers could consider providing such first-time article creators with a link to it while also mentioning that not all schools pass the GNG and that elementary schools are almost certainly not notable.

Misc

There is a new template available, {{NPP backlog}}, to show the current backlog. You can place it on your user or talk page as a reminder:

Very high unreviewed pages backlog: 15143 articles, as of 12:00, 29 April 2024 (UTC), according to DatBot

There has been significant discussion at WP:VPP recently on NPP-related matters (Draftification, Deletion, Notability, Verifiability, Burden). Proposals that would somewhat ease the burden on NPP aren't gaining much traction, although there are suggestions that the role of NPP be fundamentally changed to focus only on major CSD-type issues.

Reminders
  • Consider staying informed on project issues by putting the project discussion page on your watchlist.
  • If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, suggest they help the effort by placing {{subst:NPR invite}} on their talk page.
  • If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.
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Notes
  1. ^ not including another ~6,000 redirects
  2. ^ The number of weekly reviews reported in the NPP feed includes redirects, which are not included in the backlog we primarily track.

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Feedback request: History Good Article nomination[edit]

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NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on![edit]

New Page Patrol | July 2022 Backlog Drive
  • On 1 July, a one-month backlog drive for New Page Patrol will begin.
  • Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of articles patrolled.
  • Barnstars will also be granted for re-reviewing articles previously reviewed by other patrollers during the drive.
  • Redirect patrolling is not part of the drive.
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Question from Yifan Xie (04:04, 5 July 2022)[edit]

Hello, How can I reference a wikidata item to a wikipedia article? --Yifan Xie (talk) 04:04, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Growth team newsletter #21[edit]

Welcome to the twenty-first newsletter from the Growth team!

New project: Positive reinforcement[edit]

Design mockup of the Positive reinforcement module for mobile users. The new module is first a summary of the number of views and can be expanded to show stats, graphs, and other contribution information.
Mockup of the Impact module, redesigned to add Positive reinforcement.
  • The Growth team started a new project: Positive reinforcement. We want newcomers to understand there is an interest in regularly editing Wikipedia, and we want to improve new editor retention.
  • We asked users from Arabic, Bangla, Czech and French Wikipedia about their feedback. Some people participated at mediawiki.org as well.
  • We summarized the initial feedback gathered from these community discussions, along with how we plan to iterate based on that feedback.
  • The first Positive Reinforcement idea is a redesign of the impact module: incorporating stats, graphs, and other contribution information. This idea received the widest support, and we plan to start our work based on the design illustrated on the side.
  • Please let us know what you think of this project, in any language.

For mentors[edit]

Scaling[edit]

  • "Add a link" available at more wikis ― Add a link feature has been deployed to more wikis: Catalan Wikipedia, Hebrew Wikipedia, Hindi Wikipedia, Korean Wikipedia, Norwegian Bokmål Wikipedia, Portuguese Wikipedia, Simple English Wikipedia, Swedish Wikipedia, Ukrainian Wikipedia, Abkhazian Wikipedia, Achinese Wikipedia, Adyghe Wikipedia, Afrikaans Wikipedia, Akan Wikipedia, Alemannisch Wikipedia, Amharic Wikipedia, Aragonese Wikipedia, Old English Wikipedia, Syriac Wikipedia, Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia, Asturian Wikipedia, Atikamekw Wikipedia, Avaric Wikipedia, Aymara Wikipedia, Azerbaijani Wikipedia, South Azerbaijani Wikipedia. This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can configure locally how this feature works.
  • "Add an image" available at more wikis ― Add an image feature will be deployed to more wikis: Greek Wikipedia, Indonesian Wikipedia, Polish Wikipedia, Chinese Wikipedia. These communities will be able to configure locally how this feature works. [1]

Suggested edits[edit]

  • Selecting topics ― We have created an "AND" filter to the list of topics at Special:Homepage. This way, newcomers can decide to select very specific topics ("Transportation" AND "Asia") or to have a broader selection ("Transportation" OR "Asia"). At the moment this feature is tested at pilot wikis.
  • Changes for Add a link ― We have built several improvements that came from community discussion and from data analysis. They will be available soon at the wikis.
    • Algorithm improvements ― The algorithm now avoids recommending links in sections that usually don't have links and for first names. Also, it now limits each article to only having three link suggestions by default (limited to the highest accuracy suggestions of all the available ones in the article).
    • User experience improvements ― We added a confirmation dialog when a user exits out of suggestion mode prior to making changes. We also improved post-edit dialog experience and allow newcomers to browse through task suggestions from the post-edit dialog.
    • Community configuration ― We allow communities to set a maximum number of links per article via Special:EditGrowthConfig.
    • Future change for Add a link feature ― We will suggest underlinked articles in priority. [2]
  • Patrolling suggested edits ― Some users at Arabic Wikipedia, Spanish Wikipedia, and Russian Wikipedia told us that "Add a link" and "Add an image" edits can be challenging to patrol. We are now brainstorming improvements to help address this challenge. We have already some ideas and we started some work to address this challenge. If you have any thoughts to add about the challenges of reviewing these tasks or how we should improve these tasks further, please let us know, in any language.

Community configuration[edit]

Communities can configure how the features work, using Special:EditGrowthConfig.

  • Communities can set the maximum number of "add an image" suggested tasks a newcomer can complete daily. [3]
  • Future change: allow communities to customize the "add a link" quality gate threshold easily, using Special:EditGrowthConfig. [4]

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13:03, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2022[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2022).

Technical news

  • user_global_editcount is a new variable that can be used in abuse filters to avoid affecting globally active users. (T130439)

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

  • The New Pages Patrol queue has around 10,000 articles to be reviewed. As all administrators have the patrol right, please consider helping out. The queue is here. For further information on the state of the project, see the latest NPP newsletter.
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Question from Bushra Vicki Habib (16:44, 11 July 2022)[edit]

Hello There,

I would like to contribute to the editing of Al Aqsa, built by Umar ibn al Khattab. as I recall, reading a Al Aqsa Book in the SOAS Library, whilst studying at Goldsmiths College. which stated, that it was nicknamed the Dome of Umar.

Please can you deal with this.

Yours Kindly,

Vicki Habib. --Bushra Vicki Habib (talk) 16:44, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Bushra Vicki Habib welcome to Wikipedia.
You would want to locate the actual book (or an e-copy of it) before utilising it, to make sure, but you can request edits by going to the relevant talk page. FOr example this one. Propose the exact text you'd like to change/add (and where), give the secondary source, and why the edit should be made. Help:Intro can provide some further guidance on making an edit to the talk page if needed. Nosebagbear (talk) 17:05, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from EleniH8382 (15:48, 12 July 2022)[edit]

Hi there,

Thanks in advance for your help/advice!

I have a conundrum I was hoping you could help with.

In an effort to help a page that interested me get published, I provided some edits before resubmitting the article in full. Sadly the original article was flagged for a potential conflict of interest with the initial author, and so my edits were rejected as well as a matter of course. I then attempted to resubmit the article under my own name, as I'd contributed significant changes and felt comfortable submitting as a neutral writer/editor (basically an attempt to reset the process and try to submit with a clean slate).

My version was flagged as a duplicate and cited as having no obvious changes from the original (although there were many, especially in terms of tone). I was also cited as a potential single purpose account, which I fear puts this entire project on hold even further. I'm entirely new to Wikipedia, and thought I could just begin with this one article, but it seems I may have inadvertently slowed the potential progress of the article without meaning to.

So my questions now are:

1. Is it possible for me to delete my own draft to avoid any duplicate flags in the future?

2. I've begun editing another page of interest. Does the "single purpose account" flag still stand? How can I check?

Thanks so much for your help and your patience. I recognize the process for new editors can be slow and frustrating at times, but I very much want to help with the publication I mentioned if I can.

Any pointers or advice you can offer would be so appreciated!

Thanks so much again! --EleniH8382 (talk) 15:48, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from EleniH8382 (21:35, 12 July 2022)[edit]

Hello again!

Another question:

A story synopsis I've edited within an article features some potentially sensitive scenes. I've included a small warning at the top of the synopsis, but does Wikipedia have a policy surrounding trigger warnings/resources for mental health? Want to be sure I include as much information as possible for anyone who might be struggling (if and where appropriate). Thank you! --EleniH8382 (talk) 21:35, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback request: Politics, government, and law request for comment[edit]

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Question from Paul Bah on Talk:List of awards and nominations received by Burna Boy (13:25, 18 July 2022)[edit]

Hallo --Paul Bah (talk) 13:25, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Adenoghie (06:58, 21 July 2022)[edit]

What is the best way to grow as an editor? --forthekingdom 06:58, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Adenoghie hi there, welcome to Wikipedia.
I tend to find the best way to do the initial growth as an editor is to have a go through Help:Introduction which is our best summary of the basics. Then go out and make edits to pre-existing live articles, and, from that, get practice discussing edits with other editors on talk pages. Learning how to take a "no, your edit is wrong" in the right way and discuss disagreement civilly with other editors is key thing to learn early - because it's also an emotional challenge, not just a technical one. Nosebagbear (talk) 18:01, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome, thank you for this? forthekingdom 12:42, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Talented chick on Muson Centre (22:07, 24 July 2022)[edit]

Hello how do I edit my own topic --Talented chick (talk) 22:07, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Talented chick - by "own topic", could you clarify what you mean? A topic about you? A topic in a field you know about? Nosebagbear (talk) 22:44, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – August 2022[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2022).

Administrator changes

readded Valereee
removed Anthony Appleyard (deceased) • Capitalistroadster • Samsara

Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC has been closed with consensus to add javascript that will show edit notices for editors editing via a mobile device. This only works for users using a mobile browser, so iOS app editors will still not be able to see edit notices.
  • An RfC has been closed with the consensus that train stations are not inherently notable.

Technical news

  • The Wikimania 2022 Hackathon will take place virtually from 11 August to 14 August.
  • Administrators will now see links on user pages for "Change block" and "Unblock user" instead of just "Block user" if the user is already blocked. (T308570)

Arbitration

  • The arbitration case request Geschichte has been automatically closed after a 3 month suspension of the case.

Miscellaneous

  • You can vote for candidates in the 2022 Board of Trustees elections from 16 August to 30 August. Two community elected seats are up for election.
  • Wikimania 2022 is taking place virtually from 11 August to 14 August. The schedule for wikimania is listed here. There are also a number of in-person events associated with Wikimania around the world.
  • Tech tip: When revision-deleting on desktop, hold ⇧ Shift between clicking two checkboxes to select every box in that range.
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New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022[edit]

New Page Review queue August 2022

Hello Nosebagbear,

Backlog status

After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators Buidhe and Zippybonzo, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to Dr vulpes who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.

Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.

Coordination
MB and Novem Linguae have taken on some of the coordination tasks. Please let them know if you are interested in helping out. MPGuy2824 will be handling recognition, and will be retroactively awarding the annual barnstars that have not been issued for a few years.
Open letter to the WMF
The Page Curation software needs urgent attention. There are dozens of bug fixes and enhancements that are stalled (listed at Suggested improvements). We have written a letter to be sent to the WMF and we encourage as many patrollers as possible to sign it here. We are also in negotiation with the Board of Trustees to press for assistance. Better software will make the active reviewers we have more productive.
TIP - Reviewing by subject
Reviewers who prefer to patrol new pages by their most familiar subjects can do so from the regularly updated sorted topic list.
New reviewers
The NPP School is being underused. The learning curve for NPP is quite steep, but a detailed and easy-to-read tutorial exists, and the Curation Tool's many features are fully described and illustrated on the updated page here.
Reminders
  • Consider staying informed on project issues by putting the project discussion page on your watchlist.
  • If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, suggest they help the effort by placing {{subst:NPR invite}} on their talk page.
  • If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.
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Feedback request: History Good Article nomination[edit]

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NPP message[edit]

Hi Nosebagbear,

Invitation

For those who may have missed it in our last newsletter, here's a quick reminder to see the letter we have drafted, and if you support it, do please go ahead and sign it. If you already signed, thanks. Also, if you haven't noticed, the backlog has been trending up lately; all reviews are greatly appreciated.

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Question from 1es1ie (23:57, 24 August 2022)[edit]

Hello. How should I express an opinion about a subject if I believe the author is biased? --1es1ie (talk) 23:57, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@1es1ie could I ask for a little clarification here? Do you mean that the author of a source is biased? Or that an editor is biased? Nosebagbear (talk) 00:06, 25 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I saw an article and I thought the whole article could be deemed to be biased because there were no opposing views. This is my first comment - I am delighted to have received such a quick response. I don't wish to point a finger at anyone and I don;t know how editorship works. I just wondered how I could make a general comment. 1es1ie (talk) 00:12, 25 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Welcome to the twenty-second newsletter from the Growth team!

Newcomers tasks reach the 500,000 edits milestone — more data publicly available[edit]

As of the last week of June 2022, the newcomers of the world have completed over 500,000 newcomer tasks. In other words, newcomers have made over half a million Wikipedia edits via Growth’s “Suggested Edits” module.

  • About 30% of those edits were completed on mobile devices.
  • Usage continues to increase; in June 2022 almost 50,000 newcomer tasks were completed.

We have added some new data to Grafana. You can now check the number of edits and reverts by task types, or the number of questions asked to mentors. You can filter the data by wiki.

If you have any questions, or there is more data you want access to, please let us know.

Ongoing projects and explorations[edit]

The new impact module is part of the Positive Reinforcement project. The image displays the mockup for mobile we used for user testing.

We are continuing our work on our new project, Positive Reinforcement. User testing of initial Positive Reinforcement designs was just completed. Interviews were conducted in Arabic, English, and Spanish. The outcome has been published on the Positive Reinforcement page. We are now utilizing user testing feedback along with prior community feedback to iterate and improve designs.

We are exploring the idea of a Copy Edit structured task. We have tested copy edits in Wikipedia articles for arwiki, bnwiki, cswiki, eswiki (Growth pilot-wikis) and enwiki with two different methods: LanguageTool and Hunspell. We will share more details here and on the associated Copy Edit page once the evaluation is complete.

Add an image was utilized at GLAM events in Argentina, Mexico, and Chile. For an overview of what was learned from these events, read: #1Pic1Article I: how Latin American heritage experts added images to Wikipedia (in English).

Experiments analysis[edit]

Add a Link Experiment Analysis has been published. The most important points are:

  • Newcomers who get the Add a Link structured task are more likely to be activated (i.e. make a constructive first article edit).
  • They are also more likely to be retained (i.e. come back and make another constructive article edit on a different day).
  • The feature also increases edit volume (i.e. the number of constructive edits made across the first couple weeks), while at the same time improving edit quality (i.e. the likelihood that the newcomer's edits aren't reverted).

Newcomer task edit type analysis has been published.

  • Communities had expressed concern that newcomers whose initial edits were structured tasks wouldn’t go on to learn how to complete more difficult tasks. The Growth team data scientist conducted a Newcomer task edit type analysis to see if this was indeed the case.
  • Results from analysis indicate that this likely isn’t a significant concern. More than 70% of users who start with the easy task "Add a link" also make another task type. Read the full analysis and methodology here.

News for mentors[edit]

A new system for the mentors list

The configuration of the mentors list will change over the next weeks. In the future, mentors will sign up, edit their mentor description and quit using Special:MentorDashboard. This new system will make the development of new features for mentors much easier.

At the moment, the mentor list is a simple page anyone can edit, unless it’s protected. With the new page, mentors will be able to edit only their own description, while administrators will be able to edit the entire mentors' list if needed.

The deployment will happen first at the pilot wikis, then at all wikis. Existing lists of mentors will be automatically converted, no action will be needed from the mentors. [5][6]

Mentors will be informed about the next steps soon, by a message posted on the talk page of existing Mentor lists.

Learn more about this new structured page on mediawiki.org.

A tip for mentors

Did you know that mentors can filter their mentees' changes at Special:MentorDashboard (and star the ones that require attention)? This feature helps to keep an eye on newcomers' edits, helping mentors to fix minor details, and encourage them if necessary.

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Other improvements

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Recent changes and fixed bugs[edit]

  • We moved to a new Image Suggestions API. This new API will allow us to deploy Add an Image to more wikis. [10]
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October 2022 New Pages Patrol backlog drive[edit]

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CIR?[edit]

I'm beginning to thing a CIR block may be needed for [14]. I can't see a single useful thing he's done, and I'm tired of cleaning up his incomprehensible talk page acid trips [15], bearing witness to his HTML vivisection experiments [16], and being pinged to his bizarre 1990s-flashback computer bulletin board transcript archives or whatever the fuck they are [17]. Pinging User:David Eppstein as well. EEng 15:53, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@EEng yep, absolutely - go for it (or happy to do so myself if you view yourself as involved, but otherwise just consider this an endorse) Nosebagbear (talk) 16:44, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
(or, quite possibly, it was trolling after all) Nosebagbear (talk) 16:44, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
(I don't know whether to be flattered or insulted that you imagine me to be one of those filthy admins.) Maybe he should get some kind of final warning. I'm sure he's sincere, but enough's enough. Let's wait to hear what David thinks.EEng 16:52, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Executive Media (20:43, 26 September 2022)[edit]

I am very excited to contribute to the world of knowledge. Thanks for being my advisor! --Executive Media (talk) 20:43, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from MaxMedia123 (13:57, 27 September 2022)[edit]

There is a user "theroadislong" attacking me. --MaxMedia123 (talk) 13:57, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from Glade7 (02:07, 12 October 2022)[edit]

mohon bimbngannya kak, saya adalah pengguna baru dan sedang belaar untuk menyunting dan membuat artikel yang baru. terimakasih --Glade7 (talk) 02:07, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Glade7 - hello. I can only speak English. I think you are speaking Malay. You could try Malay Wikipedia? Nosebagbear (talk) 09:00, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Qplb191 (02:11, 13 October 2022)[edit]

Hey I need help Can you please update protected page to recent data? I did asked on the talk page but didn’t get answer. This is the update: Please change to new International Monetary Fund report of October. GDP PPP: 496,840 (rank 49) GDP PPP per capita : 52,170 (rank 29) GDP : 527,180 (rank 28) GDP per capita:55,360 (rank 15) Thanks . 

. Link : https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/profile/ISR --Qplb191 (talk) 02:11, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please update the recent data to the protected page? Thanks Qplb191 (talk) 07:51, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Qplb191 - the way to update protected pages that you can't edit yourself is to use the edit request wizard. Make sure you've got a source before starting in Nosebagbear (talk) 08:37, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I did submit request but can you please change it ? And yes I do have source: https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/profile/ISR Qplb191 (talk) 09:12, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Because it’s just a request on talk page which I didn’t get answer at. Qplb191 (talk) 09:16, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Qplb191 - as far as I can see you only requested it on the talk page on the 11th Oct, and now again on the 13th - edit requests are made quite frequently, so it's not a case of "not getting an answer" after only a couple of days. These things usually take a couple of weeks.
I don't act on requests to bypass process queues on Wikipedia, but I have tried to slightly tweak your request to make use of the headers requested by the ERW - these are the three boxes that anyone reviewing it will need to check, so it makes it easy for them. Nosebagbear (talk) 09:54, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Qplb191 (talk) 10:22, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the help, but why can't you edit the page yourself? I brought a link and the data I mentioned are real and I also gave a source for it. Qplb191 (talk) 11:52, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Qplb191 I have the ability to edit the page, but I get numerous requests to edit x/review y etc for submissions to their respective queues. I view it as unfair for me to jump someone ahead (it would also likely encourage many more requests). Nosebagbear (talk) 12:21, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I understand you completely And once again thank you very much for the help. But really it's just dry data that takes a second to edit. And they also have a source (IMF). This is not an edit that can be debated or is controversial. Therefore, I would really appreciate it if you would update the information once and for all. And thanks again. Qplb191 (talk) 12:28, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please consider doing this, I know you get a lot of requests, but this is a one-time thing. Qplb191 (talk) 15:32, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The requests are always one-time things - and the reasoning you use for making the edit also stand just as true for it not being in a rush. As the saying on Wikipedia goes - there's no WP:DEADLINE. Nosebagbear (talk) 15:44, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, but it's really a one-time request. I understand you, but I really want you to consider it. There is no answer on the talk page and I don't believe they will either. So please consider doing so Qplb191 (talk) 16:09, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It’s very short and simple edit Qplb191 (talk) 16:09, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please consider to update it, because I’m not getting any answer. 

Qplb191 (talk) 16:36, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Please cease communicating on my talk page - I stated that I wouldn't be implementing the edit and you have made no fewer than 6 edits (repeating the same arguments) haranguing me for that judgement in as many hours. You have zero evidence to indicate that you edit request (which logs it to a general pending queue) will not be considered in the fullness of time. Nosebagbear (talk) 16:43, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022[edit]

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Re:TCG Close query[edit]

Sorry for the slow reply, as I said they dislike us using our electronic stuff at work. Compounding that is the fact that I work nights, so it takes a while between home and bed to recharge the body and mind to functioning capacity to answer people's questions clearly :) In response to the points which you have flag for query and/or raising concerns:

  • The limited TBAN-scope: afaict, the vast majority of users participating were a full support for the original (full) TBAN proposal rather than with the modifier unless explicitly invited to comment on the subject by editors on a given talk page. What in the discussion led to that being exempted out?
    This was done for three reasons: 1) To allow for any edit identified as being added by TCG to be clarified if needed by allowing TCG to comment without risk of penalty from an edit restriction. 2) In an attempt to foster some good will with the community to demonstrate that he can play by and respect the rules, TCG may be invited to a talk page for the purpose of building consensus if the editors judge that his input would be welcomed, and most importantly 3) to demonstrate that he abiding by his single use restriction. Ordinarily, cases such as this would be open and shut but the SPI case he was involved in declined to block the primary account. Logging a talk page exemption is in some sense an attempt at WP:ROPE: if the currency guy is dead set to edit this topic regardless I'd look for him to try and backdoor his way onto talk pages by creating or anonymously editing to invite himself to participate, which leads to the next point raised:
  • Editors encountering suspected socks of TheCurrencyGuy are required to log their suspicions at the aforementioned SPI page for documentation in addition to reporting them at WP:ANI for breach of this account restriction. - this feels like a potentially onerous obligation on all wikipedia editors (one that only a few will be aware of), and as such would be extremely rare to have in a close. Here, while TCG appears to have been Joe-jobbed at one point, I'm aware of some reasoning for this point but again there's no community consensus for it in the thread. In more practical terms, lots of sock blocks are made without launching both an SPI investigation and an ANI thread for breaching a community restriction underpinning it and so this would be a potential disruption there.
  • Since the SPI was closed without blocking the main account I logged a single use account restriction with a requirement to report to SPI and ANI. I don't expect that this will happen since as you point out most of the people would be unaware of the restriction, however those likely to be watching TCG are likely to be aware of the restriction and therefore this was added in hopes that if the SPI people pounce on and block the accounts it'll be reported at ANI so we can update the editing restriction, or alternatively if someone complains about an editor with a fixation on currency at ANI one or more people aware of the restriction will cross pollinate at the SPI page to make sure its not the same person. As long as one of the two forums results in a sock block and the editors are aware of the restrictions log an admin can update the page to note that TCG failed his restriction and amend the relevant restriction to reflect the corrective action taken (it may interest you to know that a similar restriction can be found for the account Middayexpress at Wikipedia:Editing restrictions/Archive/Placed by the Wikipedia community). In simple terms, this is done to make sure that someone notifies the community so that the current restrictions and the SPI page line up with each other instead of having one out of sync with the other.
  • While timing and requirement to link to this ANI thread in any future appeals by TCG made sense, I was again wondering about the obligation to ping everyone - is there a TCG issue that underpinned this? Had a feeling that I might have been missing something from a prior discussion. The upshot of which is a request to explain what consensus in the discussion led to these aspects being part of your close, or to amend the close as appropriate.
  • At the time of the proposed topic ban TCG had 8 separate threads across the grater AN pages for disruptive editing, dispute resolution, edit warring, etc, and all of that accumulated in roughly 12 weeks. That works out to approximately one report every 10 days or so, and thats a lot of feathers ruffled across a lot of currency pages and report boards. To make sure that those who who wanted him topic banned don't sound the alarm for an unexpected successful appeal of the ban, and to make sure that the people who reviewing the appeal get an accurate report of his behavior, I logged this to make sure that he notifies everyone who participated in the topic ban discussion so they know he is appealing and have the chance to weigh in on the matter and to make sure that everyone who participated is aware of the outcome. I don't want anyone showing up at ANI screaming that they never got informed he was paroled or else they would've weighed in, so in the interest of AGF the appeal attempt must include those who participated both to make sure they know the outcome and to make sure they have the chance to put in their two cents on the matter. Assuming TCG abides by his restrictions, he should build enough god faith between then and now to a reasonable chance of convincing those who topic banned him to give him another shot.

I hope this helps clarify the points raised, if not then let me known and I'll delve deeper to answer the next set of questions. TomStar81 (Talk) 23:56, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @TomStar81 - the main upshot of these responses to me is "many of these make sense as positions, but should have been !voted into being as not insignificant divergences from the community discussion, not imposed by the closing admin". This is particularly the case for my 1st and 2nd points Nosebagbear (talk) 08:27, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from Yowchackaii on Google (17:16, 4 November 2022)[edit]

hello --Yowchackaii (talk) 17:16, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Yowchackaii - welcome to Wikipedia!
Hopefully your homepage is offering you some tips to initial edits and a few suggested areas to look at doing one.
Please let me know if you've got any particular questions in the future :)
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Question from Natalie pearl (13:49, 20 November 2022)[edit]

Who are you ? --Natalie pearl (talk) 13:49, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Natalie pearl - at the risk of turning it into a very deep question, could I ask for a bit of context? I might be appearing as an assigned mentor to you - an experienced user you can ask questions of. Nosebagbear (talk) 14:01, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from Zamira Gerra (10:25, 25 November 2022)[edit]

Hello! Thank you for being my mentor! I would like to add a Photo at my Grandfather profile. Veli Gërra. But I could not make it. It is a JPEG file. How can I modify it to make it suitable for posting? Thank you! --Zamira Gerra (talk) 10:25, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Zamira, welcome to Wikipedia, and a photo would indeed be good to have! Could you talk me through what you clicked on to upload and which options you went for? There's no intrinsic reason that a JPEG image wouldn't work, but there's some potential issues along the way.
One is that you may not have the userright to do so locally (you need an account that is 4 days old and has 10 edits). In general, we want photos to be uploaded over at our shared photo library "Commons", which may give you more luck.
The other likely issue (you may not have run into it yet, but it is the more significant one - we have lots of ways to resolve the technical one, it just might take some time) is copyright.
I won't ask a whole bunch of questions at once, but I assume you didn't take the photo yourself given the timings. When was the photo taken (and in what country)? Nosebagbear (talk) 12:20, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Lapid[edit]

Still (1, 2) "insufficient scale of issue"? TrangaBellam (talk) 07:19, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @TrangaBellam that is still not sufficient scale for your originally requested semi-protect, however it is now sufficient ongoing issue to make pending changes a reasonable solution. Nosebagbear (talk) 09:25, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sadly, there is no known antidote to the lack of common sense. Anyway, the IP-vandalism (which continues unabated) has been covered by media. TrangaBellam (talk) 11:44, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Growth team newsletter #23[edit]

Welcome to the twenty-third newsletter from the Growth team!

Highlights[edit]

Screenshot of the positive reinforcement module improvements.

Positive reinforcement: an improved impact module to test[edit]

The goal of the Growth team is to encourage newcomers to try editing for the first time, and encourage them to keep editing. We want to increase newcomers' motivation by showing them how impactful their edits are.

Newcomers have access to an impact module; you can find yours at Special:Impact. The revised impact module provides new editors with more context about their impact. It will display the number of edits, the number of thanks received, the last time they edited, the number of consecutive days they edited, and the number of views for the articles they edited.

This module will soon be available at our pilot wikis starting December 1. You can already test this new module at Beta Wikipedia. For safety reasons, do not use your regular account and password at Beta wiki. Create a new, specific account for this wiki, with a different password.

Structured tasks: improvements based on patroller feedback[edit]

After the deployment of Structured tasks, we received feedback from various communities regarding how patrollers of recent changes were feeling overwhelmed by an increase in edits to check, and how some edits were poor quality or of poor relevance.

We made several improvements based on the feedback we received. Several points of improvement have already been addressed:

  • Patroller fatigue:
    • By default, newcomers can complete up to 25 "add a link" tasks and 25 "add an image" tasks per day. If patrollers are overburdened, each community can use Special:EditGrowthConfig to lower that limit.
  • Quality of edits: what constitutes a "quality edit" is not a well defined concept. We initiated a discussion and summarized our findings. We also worked on the following improvements:
    • Add a Link
      • Underlinked articles are now prioritized, so it's less likely that newcomers are adding links to articles that are already have a lot of links.
      • The confidence score was increased, so suggestions are more likely to be accurate.
      • The default number of suggested links per article has been lowered to 3. This can be changed at Special:EditGrowthConfig. Communities can also exclude articles containing certain templates or categories from being suggested.
    • Add an Image
      • Lists will no longer receive "add an image" suggestions.
      • Disambiguation pages will no longer receive "add an image" suggestions.
      • We have many further improvements we plan to make to "add an image" in early 2023. [18]

The Positive Reinforcement project will also address some of the concerns around encouraging newcomers to progress to higher value edits. The Growth team will soon work on strategies geared at "Leveling up" newcomers so they progress from easy to more difficult tasks.

Recent changes[edit]

  • All Wikipedias now have the same onboarding experience. Previously, at a few wikis, 20% of new accounts didn't get the Growth features when they created their account. These 20% of new accounts were used as a control group, in order to know if the Growth features were changing newcomers' behavior. Experiments have shown that Growth features improve activation and retention, and as we want to provide the same onboarding experience at all Wikipedias, we have decided to remove the control groups. We will utilize control groups when testing new features, and German Wikipedia keeps a control group at their request. [19]
  • The quality score for "add a link" suggestions will change. We will suggest less links for each article, but they will be more accurate. We will first deploy it at our pilot wikis, and then to all other wikis where this feature is available. [20][21]
  • Growth's features FAQ has been updated and expanded. This page centralizes all the information about Growth features. We invite you to read it, and, if you can, to translate it.

News for mentors[edit]

  • All Wikipedias can now setup and manage a mentorship program in an easier way.
    • We changed the process to make it more reliable, easier to improve and easier to use.
    • Wikipedias where mentorship hasn't been enabled yet can turn mentorship on following a new process. When done, mentors can sign-up by visiting Special:MentorDashboard.
    • Wikipedias where the list of mentors already existed have been converted to the new system.
    • A new special page — Special:ManageMentors — now displays the list of mentors. This page can be transcluded on any other page. There are also new processes to signup as a mentor or to quit mentorship, and we improved community mentorship management.
  • The Mentor dashboard's "Your mentees" module will have a new footer, called "Recent changes by your mentees". This footer will include a link to Recent changes, where mentors can see only edits made by their own mentees. [22]

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2022).

CheckUser changes

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Oversight changes

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Technical news

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Question from Jvanrossum1616 (16:51, 6 December 2022)[edit]

Hi I’m a singer songwriter! I have a google panel and I have an article(not a press release) about me, I really want a Wikipedia page to add to my google bio, but I’m not sure how to do that --Jvanrossum1616 (talk) 16:51, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Jvanrossum1616,
Writing a biographical article is already one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia - we have extra rules to safeguard against either promotion or attack pages. These become even harder when you're writing about yourself, as doing so flawlessly neutrally is very hard indeed. We usually advise that individuals just don't try.
For example, I realise you can no longer see it, but if you think back to what you wrote in your draft, and then compare it to, say, Avicii (which is only a c-class article), and see the differences in phrasing and sourcing. It obviously doesn't need to be that long, but you will want 3 good, reliable, independent, secondary sources that cover you in reasonable depth if you do want to proceed. WP:BASIC covers the details pretty well.
If you think you've got the sources, then I'd go to Help:Intro, and read through the visual editor pathway. Once you've done that, make a couple of dozen edits that have nothing to do with you, just to get an idea - make sure some of them add sources.
Finally, your first article guide covers everything in significant depth, but is also a "how-to" guide for biographical articles. Nosebagbear (talk) 18:28, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Денис Мурашев (06:55, 7 December 2022)[edit]

Hello! Can I view a deleted article?(https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Алабуга_Политех) --Денис Мурашев (talk) 06:55, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Денис Мурашев - view-deleted is handled on a local basis, so you will need to ask over on Russian Wikipedia as I can't see it Nosebagbear (talk) 09:28, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Jstreepr (23:17, 12 December 2022)[edit]

Hi! New to Wikipedia as an editor/contributor. Do you know where I would go to add an entry? I want to create a Wikipedia page for myself. --Jstreepr (talk) 23:17, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Jstreepr:, welcome to Wikipedia!
Writing a biographical article is already one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia - we have extra rules to safeguard against either promotion or attack pages. These become even harder when you're writing about yourself, as doing so flawlessly neutrally is very hard indeed. We usually advise that individuals just don't try.
If you are interested in going ahead, it obviously doesn't need to be very long, but you will want 3 good, reliable, independent, secondary sources that cover you in reasonable depth if you do want to proceed. WP:BASIC covers the source details pretty well.
If you think you've got the sources, then I'd go to Help:Intro, and read through the visual editor pathway. Once you've done that, make a couple of dozen edits that have nothing to do with you, just to get an idea - make sure some of them add sources.
Finally, your first article guide covers everything in significant depth, including telling you where to go to create a draft, but is also a "how-to" guide for biographical articles. Nosebagbear (talk) 23:20, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Awesome! Thanks for the suggestions and advice. I do have good sources and just want the simplest article ever. I will keep neutrality at the fore. Jstreepr (talk) 23:30, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:DeAna Fai[edit]

Hello, Nosebagbear. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "DeAna Fai".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 03:44, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Nosebagbear,
You technically created this page when you moved the original page to a new title. Then, another editor removed your redirect and created an article on the page. But Twinkle sees you as the page creator and so you receive the notice. Liz Read! Talk! 03:46, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from Mugisha Praise (15:40, 20 December 2022)[edit]

Hello, I would like to create a new article about the Abryanz Style & Fashion Awards 2022 --Mugisha Praise (talk) 15:40, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Mugisha Praise, welcome to Wikipedia.
First question is just checking whether you have any link to the Awards - either as a staff member/performer or otherwise. This wouldn't prohibit working on it, but does come with a key disclosure and rule to progress? Nosebagbear (talk) 09:28, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Thank you for the response. I am a staff member of this event. I have various links of articles, youtube video links and the website. If these are the kinds of links I need, how do I progress? Mugisha Praise (talk) 09:35, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Mugisha Praise, so the first thing you need to do is note on your userpage (just click your username at the top of any page, and it'll take you there, to a currently empty box), that you are working on an article for Abryanz Style & Fashion Awards 2022 and that you are paid by them. (Even if you're just paid as a regular staff member, not specifically for editing).
The next thing to note is that writing an article as the first thing you do is really hard, and it's even more so when you need to avoid even accidentally being promotional - which is set at a lower threshold than most places do. If you do still wish to go ahead,
1) [Do the disclosure above]
2) Go to Help:Introduction and read (on the visual editor pathway), the editing and referencing tabs. Perhaps make a few non-related edits to try out the basic mechanics.
3) Find the best 3-5 sources about the Awards that are all of: secondary (almost certainly news media, in this case); reliable (sources have an editor and do factchecking); independent (no interviews, and no reason to be biased); significant coverage (More than a few lines on the Awards, preferably 10+). No youtube, and the website can't be one of them. They can be in any language. Nosebagbear (talk) 10:12, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Merry Christmas, Nosebagbear![edit]

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Happy Holidays[edit]

Happy Holidays
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Question from Usernamesxsxsx (13:12, 28 December 2022)[edit]

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Happy New Year![edit]

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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023[edit]

Hello Nosebagbear,

New Page Review queue December 2022
Backlog

The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

2022 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!

Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)

New draftify script: In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendly explanation page. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit your common.js or vector.js file from User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js to User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft.js

Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.

Discussions with the WMF The PageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted dozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also had a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discuss revamping the landing pages that new users see.

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2022).

Guideline and policy news

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

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Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Tony Kenning[edit]

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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice that the page you created, Draft:Tony Kenning, was tagged as a test page under section G2 of the criteria for speedy deletion and has been or soon may be deleted. Please use the sandbox for any other test edits you may want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia.

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Growth team newsletter #24[edit]

Welcome to the twenty-fourth newsletter from the Growth team!

Newcomer experience projects[edit]

The Growth team partnered with other WMF teams to conduct several experiments around increasing account creation and new editor retention. Results from four of these experiments are now available:

Newcomer tasks[edit]

  • Several communities suggested improving "add a link", by suggesting underlinked articles first. We released this change to Growth pilot wikis. We will review the data and collect feedback before considering releasing it to more wikis. [24]
  • The deployment of the "add a link" to all Wikipedias is still in progress. Suggested links use a prediction model, which has to be trained. The deployments will resume after we finish training all models. [25]

Mentorship[edit]

  • When someone wants to signup as a mentor, they are now informed if they don't meet the defined criteria. [26]
  • Workshop hosts asked us to have workshop attendees assigned to them. They can soon use a custom URL parameter. This way, workshop hosts will continue mentoring the event's attendees after the workshop. It will be available in February. [27]
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AfC notification: Draft:DeAna Fai has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:DeAna Fai. Thanks! Robert McClenon (talk) 03:31, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Well, well. Twinkle thinks that you are the author of this draft because you moved it to draft space last year. Interesting. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:35, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for The Queue[edit]

On 15 October 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Queue, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that people queued in a queue to queue in The Queue? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Queue. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, The Queue), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Craig overton[edit]

Why have I been blocked? If you look at the sources already given I’m giving you the facts.. he was allegedly called a racist.. CDC found him guilty for language(not racism) therefor collecting the total amount of points to incur a 2 game ban! Please delete this segment as it’s totally incorrect! Thank you Southernraider (talk) 10:23, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Zinc2 (09:51, 10 January 2023)[edit]

Hello, I am wondering how I can add an article cover for a product developed at my company? Thanks. --Zinc2 (talk) 09:51, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Zinc2 - firstly, you need to disclose your paid editing status. You can do that on your userpage (which will initially be a blank page asking you to create it - just type in the box). Say that you are a paid editor working for XXXX company, with a plan to write about YYYY product.
A couple of initial questions - does your company have a wikipedia article already? What do you mean by an "article cover"? Nosebagbear (talk) 10:17, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I only want an article about my company's product in detail, like what date the product was published and the names of the designers and name of product, that's all. It is a video game. Let me check out my userpage

Thank you. Zinc2 (talk) 10:27, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My company does not have a Wikipedia article yet. Zinc2 (talk) 10:47, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Zinc2 that disclosure is fine. The next step is sourcing. You need at least 3 sources that meet all of the following criteria to be "Notable": they're secondary (for a game, that usually means news media reviews of the game); reliable (no blogs, publication usually accurate); independent (no reason to be biased, no interviews) and have significant coverage of the topic (10+ lines is what I use).
For a good guide of this, this explanation can help.
This is the most common failing point for any new article - most products and companies are not notable. This list is by no means exclusive, but will give you a good guide as to what sources might be reliable or not. If you find 3-5 sources you are confident meet all of the above, let me know and I'll run you through the next steps. Nosebagbear (talk) 11:03, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from Sga4mvp on Chris Silva (15:44, 31 January 2023)[edit]

I think I accidentally messed up Chris Silva (basketball) page --Sga4mvp (talk) 15:44, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Sga4mvp,
No worries, making errors while editing the infoboxes is something that will still happen occasionally to me.
First piece of advice is just what to do when something has gone wrong (as it's useful so broadly):
  1. On the article, click the "view history" tab. So for this, this would take you to this page
  2. It will have a list of edits, with whatever edit has just caused the problem on top. At the end of the edit summary, will be an (undo). Click it.
  3. It will load up the changes this would make, you can check if you want to do it, and then implement.
Second piece of advice is to ensure you've previewed the article, if you are using source editor (which is obvious with lots of "{{" and "}}" around). On the visual editor (which I'd suggest to you for most things, early on), it'll look a little like MS word. Give it a minute at the end before pressing submit so it has had time to try and show you a preview. Nosebagbear (talk) 16:50, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Possible HiP RfC[edit]

I really like your RfC idea. I'm willing to start one myself if I absolutely have to, but I really don't think I should be the one to do it. My experience with big project-space discussions is pretty limited, so I don't think I'd be able to outline potential procedures nearly as well as many of the more experienced editors who've chimed in at the case request. It seems to me that an RfC would be most useful if it was initiated by ArbCom itself, since the arbitrators would probably have a better idea of what would and wouldn't be feasible for the committee, especially with respect to the potential involvement of outside experts. I'd have said so on the case request page, but I'm very close to the 500-word limit, and I'd like to get a better idea of what I'd be proposing before I make a statement there. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. — SamX [talk · contribs] 01:02, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@SamX - I'd be distinctly reticent to start such an RfC, as I believe it would still be a violation of the 3rd pillar - I just believe that it wouldn't set a precedent (ArbCom can say it doesn't have precedent, but traditionally they view prior cases as "persuasive precedent", because in most cases that makes sense) that our purely conduct body can also indirectly control content. So it would solve the latter of these two issues, but not the former - that was the aspect with which regard I raised it.
It's already in a DS/CT category, so to me the greater issue is the staying power of problematic editors vs (positive ones + interested conduct admins). This whole process is quite beneficial for bumping the positive ones, and it's certainly possible the case side of things can help with the former. Whether doing so from such a flawed document will hinder such is a possibility - hence my statement concerns, but obviously there are significant issues there, even if reported in a one-sided and ill-evidenced fashion. Nosebagbear (talk) 09:16, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your input. Sorry I took so long to reply, I've been very busy recently.
To be clear, I'm absolutely not opining that ArbCom should ghostwrite the article or anything like that. I think findings of fact along the lines of "The authors of source 1 have ties to a think tank that funds right-wing nationalist political advocacy, and the validity of the source is challenged by mainstream academics", or "Editor A has misrepresented sources and repeatedly introduced sources to articles that are regarded dubiously by the wider academic community" could give the en.wp community the tools and direction to more effectively identify problematic editors and handle these types of toxic content disputes in the future. Given that the entire case is based on an article that discusses concerns like this at length, it would seem a bit silly to me if ArbCom didn't do so, especially given the consensus that the article shouldn't be taken at face value. A violation of the third pillar, perhaps, but one could make an argument that the first and fourth pillars are being violated as we speak. Obviously, a situation where it's even worth considering compromising one pillar for the benefit of others is far from ideal and doesn't have any easy solutions.
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Question from SirPineapl (12:46, 2 March 2023)[edit]

Hi! I want to make a page, but don't know where to start. Can you help? It's about this game I play at school, called Gimkit. It's like Kahoot and Blooket, but there's RPG modes. --SirPineapl (talk) 12:46, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @SirPineapl - welcome to Wikipedia!
If you want to create a page from scratch, as a new editor, there's two things that it's good to do.
  1. Learn the basics of making a few edits - I'd suggest going to Help:Intro (the visual editor pathway) and read the "editing" and "referencing" quickguides. Then go and make a few edits on already existing articles, including finding and adding some references.
  2. After you've done that, for any new article to exist, it needs at least 3 sources that are: secondary (usually, that's news media); reliable; independent (lacking bias, but also no interviews) and fairly in-depth (10+ lines about the actual topic). So see if you can find three sources about Gimkit that meet all the above.
If you're not sure what I mean by all the secondary/reliable stuff, this guide covers it pretty well with examples.
If you let me know about 3-5 sources you find, I can tell you if I think they're good enough to use as the basis for a new article. Good hunting! Nosebagbear (talk) 12:00, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I just noticed this as I was on the tutorial page! haha SirPineapl (talk) 13:00, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from Bill mcqueen (11:58, 4 March 2023)[edit]

I need to start a wiki page for a historical Australian theme. How do I do that. --Bill mcqueen (talk) 11:58, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Surf012 (15:52, 9 March 2023)[edit]

Good day! I have pictures of a ‘light pillar w/ orb’ to share on wiki. Would you help me post in the correct place ? --Surf012 (talk) 15:52, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Surf012, welcome to Wikipedia - and Wikimedia as well.
You won't be able to upload locally, but you can upload it on Wikimedia Commons - that's our shared photo library. Once it's there, it can be used on any article.
The guide is at this page - step 4 will have you click on the wizard that will actually take you through uploading it. Please, please, make sure to read the guide as you go. Nosebagbear (talk) 17:24, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

World War II and the history of Jews in Poland: Arbitration case opened[edit]

Hello Nosebagbear,

You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II and the history of Jews in Poland. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II and the history of Jews in Poland/Evidence. Please add your evidence by April 04, 2023, which is when the first evidence phase closes. Submitted evidence will be summarized by Arbitrators and Clerks at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II and the history of Jews in Poland/Evidence/Summary. Owing to the summary style, editors are encouraged to submit evidence in small chunks sooner rather than more complete evidence later.

Details about the summary page, the two phases of evidence, a timeline and other answers to frequently asked questions can be found at the case's FAQ page.

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Question from Qplb191 (10:25, 20 March 2023)[edit]

why? What I’ve done wrong? It’s not against the Wikipedia rules to have prior accounts --Qplb191 (talk) 10:25, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I didn’t use this to make violates edits … Qplb191 (talk) 10:26, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Qplb191, it is indeed not inherently against the rules to have prior accounts. Some of the ways that it might be problematic:
i) Your edits with the two accounts overlap in time, so if you used two of them in the space topic space (that is, broader than just an article) that would be problematic
ii) If you receive warnings within the last 6-12 months on your first account, there will be concern that moving to a new account is an attempt to "reset the clock"
iii) If there are any sanctions on an earlier account short of blocking, then you need to have notified someone to duplicate them over.
Nosebagbear (talk) 11:23, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You are right. but you can check and see that I did not use both accounts in the same articles or to make vandalism edits. Therefore it is not justified. Qplb191 (talk) 11:26, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I answered your question, I do have prior accounts, but I’ve never used them in a way that which violates the rules of Wikipedia and you can check and verify it. Qplb191 (talk) 10:17, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Qplb191 I wasn't the one accusing you of sockpuppetry, but if you are prior accounts that you have no issues disclosing, you should disclose them on your userpage. Harder for individuals to claim you're hiding something when they're prominently noted. Nosebagbear (talk) 10:41, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have no problem closing the second account. I have nothing to hide, I only had one account that I did not use to violate the Wikipedia rules. Qplb191 (talk) 10:44, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have one account @Fun71528 this account is from year ago. But you can check and see that I did not used this account to break Wikipedia’s rules . Not even one time…. Qplb191 (talk) 11:01, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

202,134 cookies for you![edit]

Thank you for righting my wrongs and helping me. SirPineapl (talk) 13:33, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Grapes.[edit]

Here's to a GRAPE day!
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Question from Girdhari1305 (10:17, 25 March 2023)[edit]

Why wiki bans me for infinite period --Girdhari1305 (talk) 10:17, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What do I do about vandalism?[edit]

Hi, I'm kinda new to Wikipedia!


I've found that a non-registered user (IP address only) made inappropriate changes to the article Hatra. The changes included indiscriminately removing references to it as an Arab city: including the renaming of the UNESCO region 'Arab States' to a fictitious 'Middle East' region and even outright removal of important facts from the history of the city. The infobox was also broken as a result.


I've reverted the relevant changes.


Questions:

- What do we usually do about vandalism?

- How are users that vandalise articles warned? Or what other actions are to be taken with them?

- What do we do when the changes are not made by registered users? Hoborex (talk) 17:58, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Hoborex, welcome to Wikipedia. You can read the below (which I spent a while tapping out), or you can read the better, clearer, guide at Wikipedia:Cleaning up vandalism. Therefore nicely offering an opportunity for me to say "check what others have done first before you duplicate their work" :D
The usual progression of handling vandalism is:
  1. Revert it (or fix it, if it's not the most recent edit/edits)
  2. Warn the user, using an ascending set of warnings.
  3. If they've received several warnings (usually 3 for vandalism, but might be less if they're particularly unpleasant or if they're blitzing through it), report them at WP:AIV - our noticeboard for vandalism
  4. An admin will check the case, and act or not.
In most ways, it's the same process for IP editors and editors with accounts. If you see an article getting similar vandalism from lots of different IP accounts, you can ask for help as the regular "warn/block" progression won't work, but in most instances it should still work well. One key difference is that if you find old vandalism from an IP editor (anything more than a week or two will probably suffice), warning may be unwise, as a new person may have that IP address.
Handling vandalism is not too difficult in the main - you've already done the most key part by your fourth edit! There are some key things that further learning can help you with, including:
  1. Being confident it's actual vandalism, rather than bad editing.
  2. Making life way easier for yourself
  3. Getting good training if you want to specialist in counter-vandalism (though likely a bit early for that - I'd suggest getting a couple of hundred edits to figure out what you like doing first). One for later. Nosebagbear (talk) 10:01, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question from QUEEN GRACE (20:41, 27 March 2023)[edit]

Hello how do i add videos and pictures from pinterest --QUEEN GRACE (talk) 20:41, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Quoted[edit]

I've quoted you in my recent evidence statement at ArbCom here. Due to word limitations, I only quoted a part of your statement. I hope it is ok with you. If you think I am misquoting you or that I misunderstood your point, please let me know and I'll refactor what I wrote or strike the quote out. As someone subject to being misquoted, I certainly don't want to do it myself to anyone. (To be clear, you are not a party and you are in no danger of being sanctioned for anything). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:53, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from Kazmi.sol (07:37, 19 April 2023)[edit]

Hi, Liance! How Are You? Actually, I Have a Question "Can I Edit Or Remove The Another Citation in Article If I Think This Content is Not Updated" --Kazmi.sol (talk) 07:37, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Kazmi.sol - if you are replacing with a more up to date, equally reliable and secondary source, then sure. But removing a source just because you, personally, know that the source and/or content is out of date won't be accepted - wikipedia is very source-oriented. As to the sizing, don't put in a manual size for images in articles. As that article has to work for mobile phones up to huge screens, putting in a manual size causes real problems. Nosebagbear (talk) 15:50, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Procedural notification[edit]

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Where to start from?[edit]

Hey,


Hope you are doing well. You are one of the oldest editors that I found. I try to do random editing on some articles. But I want to learn in depth. I want to learn how to create a new page and all other details. Please can you help me out? Where can I learn these things from? How to start? IAmPushpak (talk) 11:37, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @IAmPushpak, welcome to Wikipedia (though I see you've been around for a bit, so belated hellos).
The first step is to see if you can do each thing covered by our normal how-to guide. Go to Help:Intro, pick whichever path you want (Source editing/Visual editor), and work through each bit. Do you understand each bit? Could you find and do an edit on each aspect it explains? If not, that's cool, just learn from it and try it out. If yes, then you can go to:
Article writing. You mention you want to learn how to do it - and it is fairly difficult, but not impossible. First thing is to find a topic that interests you that doesn't yet have an article. Pick something that isn't about a living (or recently deceased) person. If you're struggling for ideas, then Wikipedia:Requested articles might be able to help, though lots would be unsuitable.
Your First Article is the detailed guide on writing your first article. You probably won't need all of it, but it will walk you through the whole process. It makes it clear there, but the key stage is source finding. Find 3-5 good sources as your first thing - if you can't, then you could be a great editor and it wouldn't be enough. Wikipedia lives and dies on its sourcing. Nosebagbear (talk) 14:07, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Atul Raghav 'RFU'[edit]

Hi, The subject with name was deleted earlier due to less reliable sources and non-notability of the subject. However, I have noticed a significant change and the subject should be on wikipedia by GNG process. I'm attaching the url's to the subject below.

1. https://www.indiatvnews.com/sports/other/atul-raghav-international-taekwondo-player-who-is-working-to-develop-sports-in-ghaziabad-2022-10-11-815301

2. https://www.aninews.in/news/sports/others/meet-atul-raghav-taekwondo-player-who-is-all-set-to-represent-india-at-heroes-cup-in-bangkok20221220140831/

3. https://spogonews.com/i-want-to-change-the-existing-situation-of-taekwondo-in-india-atul-raghav-2/

4. https://firstsportz.com/atul-raghav-speaks-out-on-condition-of-his-sport/

5. https://theprint.in/sport/meet-atul-raghav-taekwondo-player-who-is-all-set-to-represent-india-at-heroes-cup-in-bangkok/1272622/

7. https://www.scriptcitynews.com/2023/01/09/1128/

8. https://samachartoday.co.in/state/uttar-pradesh/indian-taekwondo-player-atul-raghav-takes-forward-the/cid10612893.htm

9. http://www.udaybhoomi.com/gajiabad/atul-raghav-the-brand-ambassador-of-municipal-corporation-raised-the-value-of-ghaziabad/

10. https://www.citynewshindi.com/2023/04/blog-post_26.html

11. https://www.jagran.com/uttar-pradesh/ghaziabad-atul-wins-bronze-in-gw-international-taekwondo-championship-19999379.html

12. https://www.jagran.com/news/state-players-engaged-in-practice-in-the-roof-and-courtyard-of-the-house-20833967.html

13. https://navbharattimes.indiatimes.com/state/uttar-pradesh/ghaziabad/atul-and-harsh-will-play-in- dubai/articleshow/73707541.cms Divineplus (talk) 09:33, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]


@Divineplus: I asked for 2-4 sources. Which are the best 2-4 sources of this list? Nosebagbear (talk) 10:42, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Okay got it, Here's the list.
1. https://www.indiatvnews.com/sports/other/atul-raghav-international-taekwondo-player-who-is-working-to-develop-sports-in-ghaziabad-2022-10-11-815301
2. https://www.aninews.in/news/sports/others/meet-atul-raghav-taekwondo-player-who-is-all-set-to-represent-india-at-heroes-cup-in-bangkok20221220140831/
3. https://firstsportz.com/atul-raghav-speaks-out-on-condition-of-his-sport/
4. https://theprint.in/sport/meet-atul-raghav-taekwondo-player-who-is-all-set-to-represent-india-at-heroes-cup-in-bangkok/1272622/ Divineplus (talk) 11:16, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Divineplus - so it's slightly tricky as none of the interview content (which makes up a large amount of all of these) is counted - it's inherently non-neutral and non-secondary. That said, there is significant coverage in each article outside of the interview process.
I believe you are correct that the subject does now meet notability. I've undeleted the article and moved it to Draft:Atul Raghav. There you can add content and the new sources, before moving it mainspace when done. Please don't move it mainspace before adding new content/sourcing. Nosebagbear (talk) 14:21, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you @Nosebagbear and do help me to improve the articles further whenever needed. Divineplus (talk) 06:31, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Mohammed Raqibur Rahman (Andrew) on User talk:Mohammed Raqibur Rahman (Andrew) (19:16, 15 May 2023)[edit]

I am going to publish my father's Biography who was the legendary ophthalmologist in Bangladesh spanning more than a decade. It's going to take perhaps a month to obtain all the relevant information about him & finally publish it. --Mohammed Raqibur Rahman (Andrew) (talk) 19:16, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Mohammed Raqibur Rahman (Andrew) - I'm not sure if there is a question intended here. Good luck on your work - a few key reminders:
1) It's really hard to write a fully neutral (which doesn't just mean accurate - you can be non-neutral and still truthful by, say, excluding some things) when you have a close connection like yours. Do make sure to disclose your connection on the draft's talk page
2) Help:Intro and your first article are the go-to pages for doing this - they'll help a lot
3) Remember that it's all about reliable, secondary sources on Wikipedia.
Best of luck, hope it goes well and enjoy writing it. Nosebagbear (talk) 19:38, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Revision delete request[edit]

Revisions https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tom_O%27Carroll&oldid=1146912803 to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tom_O%27Carroll&oldid=1154835519 of this article contain links to a pedophile’s personal blog. I think that’s a clear violation of Wikipedia:Child protection Dronebogus (talk) 11:29, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Growth team newsletter #26[edit]

Welcome to the twenty-sixth newsletter from the Growth team! Help with translations

One million Suggested Edits[edit]

We passed the 1 million Suggested edits milestone in late April!

  • The Suggested edits feature (AKA Newcomer tasks) increase newcomer activation by ~12%, which flows on through to increased retention. (source)
  • Suggested edits increase the number of edits newcomers complete in their first two weeks and have a relatively low revert rate. (source)
  • Suggested edits are available on all Wikipedia language editions.
  • Newer Suggested edits, like Add a link and Add an image, aren’t yet deployed to all wikis, but these structured tasks further increase the probability that newcomers will make their first edit. (source)

Positive reinforcement[edit]

Positive reinforcement aims to encourage newcomers who have visited our homepage and tried Growth features to keep editing.

  • The new Impact module was released to Growth pilot wikis in December 2022, and we are now scaling the feature to another ten wikis. [36]
  • The Leveling up features are deployed at our pilot wikis.
  • The Personalized praise features were deployed at our pilot wikis on May 24. Mentors at pilot wikis will start to receive notifications weekly when they have “praise-worthy” mentees. Mentors can configure their notification preferences or disable these notifications.

Add an image[edit]

Other updates[edit]

What's next for Growth?[edit]

  • We shared an overview of Growth annual planning ideas, and have started community discussion about these potential projects. We would love to hear your feedback on these ideas!

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2023).

Guideline and policy news

  • Following an RfC, editors indefinitely site-banned by community consensus will now have all rights, including sysop, removed.
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Arbitration

  • The arbitration case World War II and the history of Jews in Poland has been closed. The topic area of Polish history during World War II (1933-1945) and the history of Jews in Poland is subject to a "reliable source consensus-required" contentious topic restriction.

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Remove a permission[edit]

Hi, can you remove my pending changes reviewer permission please. Regards, Willbb234 16:20, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Willbb234, I've removed the userright as requested. Nosebagbear (talk) 16:52, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023[edit]

Hello Nosebagbear,

New Page Review queue April to June 2023

Backlog

Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.

WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team, consisting of Sam, Jason and Susana, and also some patches from Jon, has been hard at work updating PageTriage. They are focusing their efforts on modernising the extension's code rather than on bug fixes or new features, though some user-facing work will be prioritised. This will help make sure that this extension is not deprecated, and is easier to work on in the future. In the next month or so, we will have an opt-in beta test where new page patrollers can help test the rewrite of Special:NewPagesFeed, to help find bugs. We will post more details at WT:NPPR when we are ready for beta testers.

Articles for Creation (AFC): All new page reviewers are now automatically approved for Articles for Creation draft reviewing (you do not need to apply at WT:AFCP like was required previously). To install the AFC helper script, visit Special:Preferences, visit the Gadgets tab, tick "Yet Another AFC Helper Script", then click "Save". To find drafts to review, visit Special:NewPagesFeed, and at the top left, tick "Articles for Creation". To review a draft, visit a submitted draft, click on the "More" menu, then click "Review (AFCH)". You can also comment on and submit drafts that are unsubmitted using the script.

You can review the AFC workflow at WP:AFCR. It is up to you if you also want to mark your AFC accepts as NPP reviewed (this is allowed but optional, depends if you would like a second set of eyes on your accept). Don't forget that draftspace is optional, so moves of drafts to mainspace (even if they are not ready) should not be reverted, except possibly if there is conflict of interest.

Pro tip: Did you know that visual artists such as painters have their own SNG? The most common part of this "creative professionals" criteria that applies to artists is WP:ARTIST 4b (solo exhibition, not group exhibition, at a major museum) or 4d (being represented within the permanent collections of two museums).

Reminders

Question from Adenoghie (22:52, 21 June 2023)[edit]

What the best way to approach an article? --forthekingdom 22:52, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Adenoghie,
Could you clarify a little what you mean - is this with regard to some your drafts? Or working on live articles? The approach will vary somewhat depending on what you're trying to do. Nosebagbear (talk) 11:50, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes and yes... But especially working on live article.
Thank you forthekingdom 12:16, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Adenoghie so in terms of generally applicable advice - it's all about the sources. We advise "working backwards" on new content, which means find sources first and only includes what's there. Material about a living (or recently deceased) individual requires inline sourcing for each statement - it can't just use a generally applicable source.
But those sources also need to be reliable and independent. That's somewhat trickier to advise on in your field - Nigerian sources, for example, not being an area I know much about. The tone of that was probably an issue because it includes bits like "and visionary dedicated to bringing about positive change in Nigeria" and "here he laid the foundation for his future endeavors" or "instilling in him leadership, mobilization, and networking skills". Where those aren't sourced it's just outright promotional. Where they are, it means you need to be completely sure that the source is reliable enough that such a positive statement is acceptable. Nosebagbear (talk) 12:39, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, now I understand better and my intent wasn't promotional but now that you made mention of it, I see what you mean. I was only trying to be positive but now I know better. Please cross check because I have made some adjustments using your guide.
Thank you for your time. And one more thing, I was trying to clarify a dispute or a contradiction earlier with respect to Zuma Rock and Abuja. Confirm if I made the adjustments the right way and advise. forthekingdom 13:33, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's quite possible that the viewed face and associated efforts both belong in some place in the article, but it would need sourcing (which presumably exists if there was such a dispute). While obviously it's good for articles to say the same things about the same objects/events and correct where they don't, you'd want to just replicate the sources in one - rather than just pointing to another article.
Generally if there isn't any ongoing discussion in a talk page section related to what you want to say, then you should either skip it (as no longer of any interest to the participants) or start a new section (if you yourself want to discuss it). If the two discussions had been ongoing when you commented, I'd have said "you probably want to include a source for the face-related point" while the volcanic point was reasonable. However, congrats on finding the talk page so early - will save you a much less messy start than myself and so many others! Nosebagbear (talk) 17:34, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Today has been an interesting with the new knowledge and tips that has come my way today. Thank you for given me a new perspective of things. I kinda live close to the Zuma Rock thus the reason why I have first hand knowledge about the whole thing. Is it possible to connect a Wikipedia Commons picture to buttress the face-related point?
I am grateful for your mentorship, thank you. forthekingdom 18:27, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
While it can be worthwhile adding such a picture if you mention it in the article (I don't know if one exists), it can't actually be used to make the point of there being a face on it. That would be original research, and likewise, if it hasn't received any coverage (and I have to think it has), then it also couldn't be due coverage to include it. Nosebagbear (talk) 18:52, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, thank you for the insight. There isn't any article currently about the face. But I will make my personal project to work on the research. And there few coverage on some news articles, I believe will help with the needed citation. forthekingdom 07:45, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
After making the necessary adjustments the article was still deleted please what did do wrong? forthekingdom 13:40, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I eventually wrote the article about Zuma Rock titled Draft:Zuma Rock (Human Face): Mystic or Fact please check and correct. (thank) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adenoghie (talk • contribs) 15:12, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Clovermoss[edit]

Hi, I was wondering if you had an answer for the question I asked at AN? [40] The thread is archived now and I forgot to ping you, so I'm not sure if you even had a chance to see that I asked a question so I figured I'd ask just in case. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 12:20, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Clovermoss I did see it, but I didn't have a great answer. As well as being dependent on different factors, it's also a matter of disagreement by community members. 12 hours is going to be functionally always, 3 hours I wouldn't (although that's still fairly long), at 6 and above is more a matter of judgement. Nosebagbear (talk) 21:50, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

New pages patrol needs your help![edit]

New pages awaiting review as of June 30th, 2023.

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Administrators' newsletter – July 2023[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2023).

Administrator changes

added Novem Linguae
removed

Bureaucrat changes

removed MBisanz

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

Arbitration

  • Two arbitration cases are currently open. Proposed decisions are expected 5 July 2023 for the Scottywong case and 9 July 2023 for the AlisonW case.
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Issues[edit]

User Tamzin, whom you have dealt with in the past for disruptive edits has removed legitimately referenced content from the Soa Palelei article. When additional references were brought forward she requested block on the pages. She has also caused Great damage to the Rock Machine Motorcycle Club page. I'm sure that there's some information that she removed that was not properly referenced, I didn't take a look. 22,000 characters were removed no citation needed tags and it looked like some of it was properly referenced. It may be possible that she has a connection to this Palelei or something. But she didn't properly read through any references. Even if accusations against someone are made or legal matters it is still mentioned on their Wikipedia page it is not seen as deflammatory if they are legitimately accused or guilty of something. And it is widely published by other independent sources anyway. I employ you to take a look at least. a lot of damages be done and I've been blocked so I can't fix it, I commented to her that she shouldn't delete that much information that does have some proper referencing until the rest of it has been properly researched and references found for those items. I requested that she simply add citation needed tags like we are supposed to so that that information can be looked into. She seems like a corrupt user when you tried to deal with her she told you to "f off" and said she would report you I basically got the same thing for just trying to be civil. Sanjinduran (talk) 10:54, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Sanjinduran - so to start with, as far as I can tell, this is a sockpuppet account being used to evade a block (which are placed against people, not accounts), so I will be blocking this after I've responded to the other aspects.
The most key aspect of your statement is that I don't believe you've read WP:BLPCRIME, even though it was mentioned in several edit summaries in the two articles - there are rules regarding mentioning crimes that impose a much higher burden than the regular sourcing rules or US defamation law.
Regarding the content deletion aspects, you (or another editor, now) could have just added back the aspects that did have sources. Citation needed tags have a variable usage, depending on how inclusionist or deletionist an editor is, but there are certain types of unsupported claims that should be removed on sight. These are particularly the case with living individuals. The burden of evidence is on the person trying to add content to the article.
I also can't see any talk page attempts to try to demonstrate that the burden had indeed been met.
Finally, you suggest Tamzin has a link to Palelei and you state she's a corrupt user without evidence, blatanly breaching NPA. Nosebagbear (talk) 12:30, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from AlphaSiklista (02:42, 15 July 2023)[edit]

Hello --AlphaSiklista (talk) 02:42, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @AlphaSiklista welcome to Wikipedia!
Let me know if there's something I can help you find or understand :)
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Question from Jimbo2u (11:47, 20 July 2023)[edit]

Can't find a way to correct wrong URL in link in References. --Jimbo2u (talk) 11:47, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Growth team newsletter #27[edit]

Welcome to the twenty-seventh newsletter from the Growth team! Help with translations

Annual plan for Growth[edit]

We shared our annual plan, for the period July 2023 - June 2024.

Our first project of the year will be Community configuration 2.0, which helps editors with extended rights transparently and easily configure important on-wiki functionality.

After we finish work on Community configuration 2.0, we will hope to fit in one of the following projects:

  • Article creation: This project aims to provide new editors with better guidance and guardrails in the article creation process, with the intention of lightening the load of new page reviewers.
  • Non-editing participation: This project aims to create low-risk ways for readers to participate in Wikipedia with the intention of funneling more readers into contributing to the Wikimedia movement.

Please let us know what you think about these projects on the related talk page, or Growth's annual plan talk page.

Suggested edits[edit]

The new "Add an image" section-level task

We released a new Section-level “add an image” structured task to Growth pilot wikis (Arabic, Bengali, Czech, and Spanish). This task was part of the Structured Data Across Wikipedia project. We are monitoring the edits made, and we look for community feedback as well.

Suggested Edits are now receiving topic predictions via the new Language-Agnostic Topic Classification. This change affects non-English Wikipedia wikis. It will ensure newcomers receive a greater diversity of task recommendations. Before, as this feature was a test, English Wikipedia was used to select topics. The change is gradual as lists of topics are refreshed when they become empty. The Research team will evaluate the impact in a few months. [41]

Starting on August 1, a new set of Wikipedias will get "Add a link": Georgian Wikipedia, Kara-Kalpak Wikipedia, Kabyle Wikipedia, Kabardian Wikipedia, Kabiyè Wikipedia, Kikuyu Wikipedia, Kazakh Wikipedia, Khmer Wikipedia, Kannada Wikipedia, Kashmiri Wikipedia, Colognian Wikipedia, Kurdish Wikipedia, Cornish Wikipedia, Cornish Wikipedia.

Mentorship[edit]

The Growth team provides dedicated features to establish a mentorship program for newcomers. Every newcomer gets a volunteer mentor who provides encouragement and answers questions. Communities can set up or join this mentorship system by visiting Special:ManageMentors. This mentorship system is configurable by the community at Special:EditGrowthConfig.

More communities have implemented mentorship. A Wikimedia Foundation data scientist will be looking at the impact of Mentorship. We will look at the impact on Spanish and English Wikipedia. [42]

The Growth team will also host a Mentoring new editors on Wikipedia session at Wikimania 2023 in Singapore. Workshop attendees will help brainstorm improvements to Growth’s mentorship features.

Positive reinforcement[edit]

We will share more complete experiment analysis for all the three parts of the Positive reinforcement project soon. At the moment, the new Impact module, Leveling up, and Personalized praise are still being A/B tested on the Growth team's pilot wikis.

In the meantime, initial leading indicators for the Personalized praise project have been published. Although this is still a relatively small sample, results seem healthy. They show that Mentors are indeed receiving notifications and clicking through to view their praise-worthy mentees.

Growth contributes to IP Editing migration[edit]

The Growth team is currently focusing on IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation. It is a project that touches many different Wikimedia Foundation teams. The Growth team will focus on temporary accounts through two main points:

  • the user experience of a logged-out user, that switches to a temporary account,
  • change Growth-owned extensions and features, so that they work as expected with temporary accounts. [43]

Community Configuration 2.0[edit]

We are still in the early planning stage of the Community Configuration 2.0 project:

  • We are gathering internal Wikimedia Foundation teams' needs, so as community feedback. [44]
  • We have started to investigate design improvements. [45]
  • We are also reviewing similar tools that are part of other products. [46]

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Question from Vahidunesi (22:05, 3 August 2023)[edit]

How to create a page --Vahidunesi (talk) 22:05, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Vahidunesi - the quick and easy method is to use the article wizard, which will create you a draft that can then be submitted for review. The detailed version is your first article that will take you step by step through creating (unsurprisingly!) your first article. Nosebagbear (talk) 07:08, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – August 2023[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2023).

Administrator changes

added Firefangledfeathers
removed

Interface administrator changes

added Novem Linguae

Technical news

Arbitration

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Deletion review for Wenja language[edit]

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Wenja language. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Hemiauchenia (talk) 21:12, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

St Anthony Barabanki[edit]

Regarding, delete decision.

I added a whole lot of sourcing to the article. Most of the votes were before my intervention, and were based on English language searches for an institution located in an area where less than 7% speak English.

After I added sources to the article, there were only two further votes.

One asserted lack of significant sources, with no reasoning. The other actually said this: "If there were a lot more examples like the Bhaskar piece I would flip to keep".

I had placed a whole lot of similar media coverage in footnote 8 of the article, which I guess they weren't aware of. I had also inserted a reference to show further media coverage in footnote 7.

Therefore I fail to see a consensus to delete. Nor do I see strong policy based arguments for it. Thanks Jagmanst (talk) 21:48, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Jagmanst, your !vote was definitely the most influential of the AfD and I did consider an NC close. Ultimately, though, after I'd devalued the first two votes (merge and keep) for no policy-backing, and C.Fred's merge !vote is clearly a "if not merge, then delete", there is a clear consensus. There is a presumption that AfD participants keep up to date with the discussion changes. Nosebagbear (talk) 06:54, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

AFDs[edit]

Hello, Nosebagbear,

I just wanted to thank you for closing some of these AFD discussions that linger around because they got overlooked or had no obvious closure decision. These can be tough discussions to parse and come to a decision on and I appreciate that you are willing to do so because close discussions are much more likely to be contested. Your admin work is much appreciated! Liz Read! Talk! 23:47, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Liz, appreciated! I thought doing them "oh dear, some of these will end up with me at DRV", then realised that I was definitely becoming too staid and concerned of doing proper closes if that was my mindset - had to dive in at that point! Nosebagbear (talk) 06:46, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

copy of the Gracies Dinnertime Theatre page?[edit]

It is possible to get a copy of the deleted page put under user:Kjoenth/Gracies_Dinnertime_Theatre ? Kjoenth (talk) 03:29, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Kjoenth hi, I've carried out the undelete and move Nosebagbear (talk) 15:15, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Movement Charter Consultations - Firm Need for Additional Feedback[edit]

You probably forgot to sign your post at WP:AN.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:55, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Administrators' newsletter – September 2023[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2023).

Guideline and policy news

  • Following an RfC, TFAs will be automatically semi-protected the day before it is on the main page and through the day after.
  • A discussion at WP:VPP about revision deletion and oversight for dead names found that [s]ysops can choose to use revdel if, in their view, it's the right tool for this situation, and they need not default to oversight. But oversight could well be right where there's a particularly high risk to the person. Use your judgment.

Technical news

Arbitration

  • The SmallCat dispute case has closed. As part of the final decision, editors participating in XfD have been reminded to be careful about forming local consensus which may or may not reflect the broader community consensus. Regular closers of XfD forums were also encouraged to note when broader community discussion, or changes to policies and guidelines, would be helpful.

Miscellaneous

  • Tech tip: The "Browse history interactively" banner shown at the top of Special:Diff can be used to easily look through a history, assemble composite diffs, or find out what archive something wound up in.
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