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November 2019

Information icon Hello, I'm CLCStudent. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to User talk:185.28.89.9 have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the help desk. Thanks. CLCStudent (talk) 13:46, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

@CLCStudent: Why? It looks like this user was removing a redundant warning, of their own. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 18:07, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
Well, I have no way of knowing this is the same user. CLCStudent (talk) 18:09, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
@CLCStudent: They left the warning here, then removed it here. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 18:13, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
Okay. I understand. Sorry about that. CLCStudent (talk) 18:14, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
@CLCStudent:Sorry guys, I'm quite new to this. I've figured out how to do UW properly now. When I'm on the filter log I see both your usernames quite a lot, thanks for your help! I'll also be there on some weekdays. NonsensicalSystem (talk) 10:35, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Name on 2019 Hyderabad gang rape

Hi, the Delhi rape victim was called as Nirbhaya. Police of Hyderabad has given a name Disha to Hyderabad rape victim in-order to disclose her identity. You can have a look at this reference[1] If the entire purpose of creating a new name for victim is to disclose her original identity, can you please explain me why can’t we use that secondary name Disha?

References

  1. ^ Pavan, P. PavanP; Dec 1, Mumbai Mirror | Updated:; 2019; Ist, 21:12. "Hyderabad rape and murder case: Cops change victim's name to 'Disha'". Pune Mirror. Retrieved 2019-12-02. {{cite web}}: |last3= has numeric name (help)CS1 maint: extra punctuation (link) CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link)
Ah, I see. Go ahead and revert my change Unknown3599, but I do not think others such as DBigXray will agree with you to put it into the article. N0nsensical.system(err0r?) 12:18, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
Folks I just replied on Talk:2019_Hyderabad_gang_rape#Real_Name_of_victim about my position on this. Please check my reply. Unknown3599, please note that the police have invented a fictional name not to disclose the identity but to hide the real identity of the victim for use in media and social media. Wikipedia is not prohibited from using the fictional name, but it hardly serves any special purpose as long as using "victim" or "veterinary" can be used to refer to the victim. All other responsible media houses have been doing the same, i.e. calling the victim as "veterinary" or the "rape victim". That piece of info on fictional name is already added once into the article and I feel that is all about it that should be added. --DBigXrayᗙ 12:23, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for confirmation.--Unknown3599 (talk) 12:25, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Draft:LUMIFORD

You apparently left out one of the left curly braces, { , in formatting your nomination. I think that I have fixed it. I have also tagged the draft for G11 as spam, so that it may be speedily deleted, or otherwise we have a 7-day deletion discussion. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:34, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Robert McClenon thanks for that. I couldn't find the applicable SD reasons, so I decided on normal deletion. Thanks for fixing the formatting mistake! N0nsensical.system(err0r?) 20:38, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
You've done it again. You have left it out one of the two left curly braces. I am inserting it for you, and we will see whether that properly expands to a user thingy. If you use Twinkle, it will provide you with a menu of speedy deletion reasons. The most common speedy deletion reason for drafts is G11, which is advertising. Another reason is G3, which is vandalism, which is normally used on profanity, for instance. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:51, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
Robert McClenon Sorry about that. I probably shouldn't do deletion requests until I can properly find out how to do them. I'll practice in my sandbox. Thanks! N0nsensical.system(err0r?) 09:30, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Dealing with consecutive vandalism edits

Hello, thanks for trying to fix vandalism. However, at Broom, as shown in the edit history, you removed one vandalism edit but didn't remove the other one. For cases like this, using the proper revert feature rather than the undo feature works better ... or you can use Twinkle to automate dealing with vandalism. Graham87 14:24, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

@Graham87: Ah, thanks for telling me how. Its been quite annoying using multiple undo's. I've applied for Rollback, so I'll be able to do it much faster/neater if I am accpeted. Thanks! N0nsensical.system(err0r?) 14:32, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

You are now a pending changes reviewer!

Hi NonsensicalSystem! I've been running into you while patrolling logs and recent changes and I happened to notice that you don't have the pending changes reviewer user rights. I hope you don't mind, but I went through your contributions and I noticed that you're quite active in recent changes patrolling and that you consistently view and undo vandalism and bad faith disruption. I believe that the pending changes reviewer rights would be useful for you to have and that you'd make good use of the tool. Instead of having you formally request the pending changes reviewer right at WP:PERM, I went ahead and just gave it to you. This user right allows you to review edits that are pending approval on pages currently under pending changes protection and either accept the edits to make them viewable by the general public, or decline and revert them.

Keep these things in mind regarding the tool or when you're reviewing any pending changes:

  • A list of articles with pending edits awaiting review can be viewed at Special:PendingChanges.
  • A list of the articles currently under pending changes protection can be viewed at Special:StablePages.
  • Being granted and having these rights does not grant you any additional "status" on Wikipedia, nor does it change how Wikipedia policies apply to you (obviously).
  • You'll generally want to accept any pending changes that appear to be legitimate edits and are not blatant vandalism or disruption, and reject edits that are problematic or that you wouldn't accept yourself.
  • Never accept any pending changes that contain obvious and clear vandalism, blatant neutral point of view issues, copyright violations, or BLP violations.

Useful guidelines and pages for you to read:

I'm sure you'll do fine with the reviewer rights - it's a pretty straight-forward tool and it doesn't drastically change the interface that you're used to already. Nonetheless, please don't hesitate to leave me a message on my user talk page if you run into any questions, get stuck anywhere, or if you're not sure if you should accept or revert pending changes to a page, and I'll be more than be happy to help you. If you no longer want the pending changes reviewer rights, let me know and I'll be happy to remove it for you. Thank you for helping to patrol recent changes and keep Wikipedia free of disruption and vandalism - it's a very thankless job to perform and I want you to know that it doesn't go unnoticed and that I appreciate it very much. Happy editing! :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:13, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Keep up the great work! Continue to make good reverts to vandalism and disruption, leave warnings for users who vandalize and disrupt Wikipedia, and report repeat offenders to Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism, - and in a few weeks' time when you've gained enough experience to show a consistently-good level of judgment and knowledge with vandalism cleanup, I'll make you a rollbacker! ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:17, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
@Oshwah: Wow, thanks! I really appricate it. I keep seeing your username pop up on the logs as well, so keep it up. See ya :) N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 09:22, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Eboracum Baroque

Hi there,

There I just tried to do a new wiki page for a baroque music ensemble, Eboracum Baroque but got told it wasn't allowed as it advertised the group?

But there's tonnes of orchestras/choirs/ensembles that have pages? So why can't a small group have one?!

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Williamtynan (talk • contribs) 10:51, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

@Williamtynan: It was deleted as you created a page promoting the orchestra (including its email, which is not allowed) on your own userspace. To create a page, you must first go through the AfC (Articles for Creation) process. This will even out any (even accidental) advertising and make sure that the subject quifies for a Wikipedia article. Also, I think you may be affiliated with the subject. This presents a COI issue, and if you are part of this group, it may prevent you from adding certain thing to its page. I hope this clears things up for you. Thanks. N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 13:17, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Eboracum Baroque

Thanks for the details. How would I go about getting a page set up? I feel if all the big groups can have a page, why can't a little one! Could I ask you to do it on my behalf if that how it works?!

Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Williamtynan (talk • contribs) 14:09, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

To start a draft, go to WP:AFC and hit 'Start a new article'. Keep in mind that the reviewing process is done by volenteers, and as drafts are reviewed in no particular order it can take 4 or more months for a draft to be reviewed. Feel free to start the process; I have little experiance as a AfC creator as I mostly work with antivandalism. Thanks! N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 14:21, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

A7 on drafts

Hi NonsensicalSystem -- Please note A7 isn't applicable to drafts, only articles. (All the criteria that start with A are article only.) Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 10:08, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

@Espresso Addict: Ah, thanks. I'll use the other ones next time. N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 10:09, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. I also took a quick look at Eboracum Baroque; I'm not sure it should have been deleted, as the editor was just trying to draft an article in the wrong place. You can always move these kinds of "user pages" that are actually drafts to the user's subpages where they can work on them in relative peace. (Obviously you need to leave a talk page message if you do that, otherwise it will just disappear!) Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 10:32, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
@Espresso Addict: I think there are ways of recovering the deleted draft. Perhaps the sandox would also be a good option? Edit: I forgot expain why I put a SD template on the page. I put it there becuase some of the language used was slightly WP:PROMO and an email was used, so I thought it was just another group trying to self promote so I put the tag there. I now see the mistake. Any chance for re-adding? N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 10:39, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
I'm just in the process of asking Fastily, the deleting admin, if I might recover it for Williamtynan. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 10:45, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
@Espresso Addict: Great, let me know how it goes. N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 10:48, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
Now restored at a subpage. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 22:45, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Template substitution

Hi NonsensicalSystem, thanks for your reports at Usernames for administrator attention. When you warn users with templates, please be sure to use template substitution by adding subst: after the opening braces, like in {{subst:Uw-coi-username}}. Talk page message templates should almost always be substituted, because it ensures that the message stays the same even if the template changes in the future.

Also, have you ever considered using Twinkle to automate your template posting? It's more efficient and reduces the chance of making mistakes. Twinkle also makes other areas of Wikipedia easier to use. Happy editing! — Newslinger talk 09:31, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

@Newslinger: Ah, I see. I'm starting to subst my templates now. I'll also try out Twinkle. Thanks! N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 09:47, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion tags

Hi NonsensicalSystem, via a report at WP:AIV, I've noticed that you removed a speedy deletion tag from Hamza El Moutadir, which did qualify for speedy deletion. If you believe a page should not be deleted, you may contest the deletion by clicking on the button that says: Contest this speedy deletion which appears inside the speedy deletion notice. This will allow you to make your case on the talk page. Administrators will consider your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. Thank you. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 14:54, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Please check the history before declaring that a contested CSD must go to AFD. It was repeatedly being removed by obvious socks and undoubtedly qualified for 4 different speedy criteria and has since been deleted Praxidicae (talk) 14:56, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

@Praxidicae: Best way to stop the other accounts; you cant really get something deleted if the tags just on and off. I don't disagree that it should be deleted though, just maybe not the speedy way. N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 14:59, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
Please don't lecture me on how to deal with vanity spammers and obvious socks. Praxidicae (talk) 15:01, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
Annnnnnd it's gone. Materialscientist deleted it. Nevermind, I was wrong. N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 15:03, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Dera Sacha Sauda page

Hello there, I am not putting any fake information. This is a cult, and its leader has been convicted by an Indian court. If you do some reach online about Guru Ram Rahim (Their cult leader); he is in prison; convicted for both Rape and Murder. This needs to be highlighted on their page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Himanshumarwaha (talk • contribs) 20:30, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

@Himanshumarwaha: That is already mentioned in the article. Also, it is improperly formatted, so it would be reverted anyway. If you want to expose a cult, see WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 20:33, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
I just left a similar message on their talk page. Maybe it will sink in. :) S0091 (talk) 20:36, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
@S0091: Thanks :) N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 20:37, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

You are welcome..😄😄

Rocky 734 (talk) 01:50, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

@Rocky 734: Awww, thanks! Remind me what I did to deserve this? N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 15:46, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Drafts

We don't generally place maintenance tags on Drafts, as the whole point of the draft space is to incubate articles, improving them until they're ready for publication. You can use the AFC comment function to leave comments on the draft with more detail than the simple maintenance tags can give. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:04, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

@WikiDan61: Ah, I see. I'll use the comments next time. Thanks! N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 09:06, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

2,6-Xylenol reversion

I'm taking a guess and thinking that you reverted this because of the partial citation. I needed to commit the change before I could run CitationBot. If there's an actual problem with my addition, please join me on the talk page for the article. Riventree (talk) 10:52, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

@Riventree: Ah, I see. It's just that you pinged an LTA edit filter which is someone who does partial citations. Sorry for the false postive! N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 11:13, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Chak village

Why moved to draft. Chak Village Muzammil Ansari 12:35, 16 January 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by मुज़म्मिल अंसारी (talk • contribs)

@मुज़म्मिल अंसारी: See my responce of the talk page. N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 12:37, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Why was Chak Gaon taken to draft (Muzammil Ansari 12:48, 16 January 2020 (UTC))

Why was Chak villagetaken to draft Muzammil Ansari 12:49, 16 January 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by मुज़म्मिल अंसारी (talk • contribs)

@मुज़म्मिल अंसारी: See my response. Stop spamming on talk pages. N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 12:51, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Please help create page.

Hallo please help create a musician page. Chaze mwale (talk) 09:24, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

@Chaze mwale: I don't really create articles, perhaps go here for help?: WP:HELPDESK N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 09:26, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Alright please check my new page and let me know of any mistakes. Chaze mwale (talk) 09:33, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

@Chaze mwale: Again, I think the people over at WP:HELPDESK could help. Simply click on the link to go to their page. N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 09:35, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Contested speedy deletion of Syro-Malabar Major Archiepiscopal Churches

Being written in another language does not make an article "patent nonsense", and the context was clear from the title itself. Phil Bridger (talk) 12:34, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

@Phil Bridger: Is there a SD template for non-english articles? N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 12:37, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
No. We don't speedily delete articles for not being in English but list them for translation as I have done. Phil Bridger (talk) 12:39, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
@Phil Bridger: Ah. I see my mistake. I'll make sure to do that rather than SD. Thanks! N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 13:15, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you!

I don't have any questions for the moment, but I will contact you when I do. I don't bake but here are some thank you flowers.

MariaMarCG (talk) 13:22, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Benny Johnson vandal

Blocked, but may return as an IP or with a new account. Thanks for the revert. Doug Weller talk 13:32, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

@Doug Weller: No problem! N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 13:34, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Rollback tool

If you run into spam often, you should apply for the rollback tool. It, among other things, makes it possible to revert most blatant vandalism in a single click, and is nicer to the Wikipedia servers than Twinkle's rollback. Also shows up in recent changes which is just great. You qualify, and I'd bet you can get it if you ask. --MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 09:26, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

@Moonythedwarf: Great, I'll make a request now. Thanks for reverting that template vandal. N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 09:27, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

How to contribute with an animation?

Hi NonsensicalSystem,

you have just removed a link in the Deferent_and_epicycle page. As you suggested I've added a paragraph in the Talk page instead of trying to add the link again.

I think I understand your point: I'm adding a link to a page that belongs to myself and this looks like I'm trying to advertise.

I don't think this is the case. I've created an interactive animation that visualizes the concepts presented in the page. I would like to contribute to Wikipedia sharing this animation. IMHO this animation belongs to the group of the other animations linked in the page. Moreover, it is not a replica of neither of them.

The program is opensource, released with an MIT licence. In the page, there is no reference to my job or my other webpages.

Question: is possible to contribute to Wikipedia providing animated programs? What is the correct procedure to submit them?

best regards, gmt Gianmarco-todesco (talk) 09:47, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

@Gianmarco-todesco: Ah, I see. You should be able to upload the animation as a .gif or similar format. However, I have sumbited your usename to WP:UAA as it is the name of a website, and a soft block may be applied shortly. You can submit a username change request before or after the block takes effect. Sorry for the inconvenience. N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 09:51, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
@Gianmarco-todesco: Update: The UAA has been declined, as it is a personal use website. N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 09:52, 21 January 2020 (UTC)


Uhm... I can't upload the animation as an animated .gif because it should be interactive. Gianmarco-todesco (talk) 10:03, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

@Gianmarco-todesco: Ah. Just re-add the link. If someone else reverts I'll talk to them. N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 10:05, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you!! Gianmarco-todesco (talk) 10:21, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

REMOVAL

Hello I had placed 4 images of Jaguar X350 which I had taken. 1 of rear, 1 of side & 2 of interior. These images are absolutely correct of this model type. I do not understand why you have stated I vandalised the page and removed them.. Please can you explain as you may have made an error. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GORDONX358 (talk • contribs) 16:16, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

@GORDONX358: you accidentally added ref tags on the top of the page, so I reverted the changes. Feel free to re-add the images though N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 21:27, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Reply - I have tried and they keep getting removed ? Not sure why ? Please assist. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by GORDONX358 (talk • contribs) 10:53, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

@GORDONX358: Hi, it's been a while. I can't quite remember the page in question. Could you link it in for me? Thanks N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 13:11, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
@GORDONX358: I linked through to the article through the warning on your userpage; It appears that you are adding quite a few too many images, which are not useful for an encyclopedia. Please refrian from adding them again, or it may be taken to dispute resolution. Thanks N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 13:17, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Rollback granted

Hi NonsensicalSystem. After reviewing your request for "rollbacker", I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:

  • Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
  • Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
  • Rollback should never be used to edit war.
  • If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
  • Use common sense.

If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! qedk (t 桜 c) 12:09, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

@QEDK: Thanks! N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 12:11, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
Good luck. --qedk (t 桜 c) 12:13, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
NonsensicalSystem, I wish you luck with your new tools. Thanks for helping keep the encyclopedia clean alongside the rest of us :) moonythedwarf (Braden N.) 15:28, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

IPRA Golden World Awards page

Hello, please be more specific about the Clean up tag you have placed for the second time on the page I just cleaned up! Thanks Secgenipra (talk) 11:41, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

@Secgenipra: The listof awards does not appear to be very clear (per WP:MOS), so I've marked the page for cleanup. Perhaps a bullet pointed list may be more effective? N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 11:45, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Renat Garnaevich Iusubov

Hi. An article in template namespace that you tagged for speedy deletion has been moved to Draft:Renat Garnaevich Iusubov. I speedy deleted another copy of the same content which was in userspace.

My reading of WP:T2 is that it only applies to templates, and not articles in the wrong namespace: "templates that are unambiguous misrepresentations of established policy, e.g. disclaimer templates intended to be used in articles and speedy deletion templates for issues other than speedy deletion criteria".

That said, I considered speedy deleting as promotional content (WP:G11) as it appears to be an autobiography but decided against it. Feel free to nominate it yourself if you like, otherwise my guess is it will be deleted anyway in 6 months time under WP:G13!

I hope this is reasonably satisfactory. Thanks. --kingboyk (talk) 06:15, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

@Kingboyk: Ah, thanks. I don't really do T# CSDs much, I'll read up a bit more next time. N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 09:08, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Wallis Day urgent deletion

Hallo, I just want to kindly put your request for instant deletion of Wallis Day because as I wrote in her talk section she had a main role in 2 season syfy-show and if you look at Krypton you will discover that all her main cast collegues have gotten their article. also she has a role in an upcoming 2020 mark wahlberg blockbuster. so i think you can quite clearly say, that she has wiki-relevance. please reconsider your decision and excuse mny bad wording.

The Shindig

Hi, I want to let you know that you incorrectly put an A7 on a page that I created, The Shindig. Your speedy deletion nom said that the page is about a band; it's actually a Mickey Mouse cartoon. Someone removed the tag, so there's no problem; I just wanted to give you a heads-up. -- Toughpigs (talk) 15:39, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

@Toughpigs: Oops, wrong article. Sorry! N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 13:50, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Your signature

Please be aware that your signature has Misnested tags lint errors.

You are encouraged to change

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to

'''[[User:NonsensicalSystem|<span style="background-color: blue; color: white">N0nsensical''.sys''tem</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:NonsensicalSystem|(err''0''r?)]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/NonsensicalSystem|(.log)]]</sub> : N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log)

—Anomalocaris (talk) 20:09, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

@Anomalocaris:Oops! Sorry, I'll change that now. N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 08:51, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
Thanks! —Anomalocaris (talk) 17:11, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Declined A7 on Persons With Disabilities (Equal Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act, 1995

Hi NonsensicalSystem -- Don't forget that WP:A7 only applies to restricted types of content. It isn't at all appropriate for Persons With Disabilities (Equal Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act, 1995. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 09:37, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

@Espresso Addict: Ahh, thanks for the heads up. I might WP:PROD it. N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 09:39, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
I'd contest a prod -- why are you so anxious to delete it? Acts of Parliament are usually notable. Espresso Addict (talk) 09:46, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
@Espresso Addict: It doesn't seem to qualify for an article on its own; it would be better incorperated into a list or similar. N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log)

Relisting

Hello NonsensicaSystem, can you please explain what made you relist Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/EverlyWell (2nd nomination) for another week when the consensus is crystal clear? You must withdraw your action and let an admin decide. GSS 💬 09:52, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

@GSS: I felt like that was too much for a new AfDer like me, and then I saw a comment about relisting and I thought it might be a good idea. Nevertheless, I'll self revert. N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 09:55, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
@NonsensicalSystem: as a new AFDer, you probably should not be relisting discussions in any case, as even that takes a degree of judgement and experience with the AFD process. This relist is dubious at best, given a fairly strong delete consensus, and this one is against the WP:RELIST policy that debates should rarely be relisted more than twice, and only with good reason and a good explanation. This keep closure also slightly bothers me given that there is a currently a 50/50 Keep/Delete split, so consensus isn't exactly overwhelming. Keep might well be the right outcome, but edge cases are generally best left to admins or experienced AFDers, which you yourself admit you are not. Could I perhaps suggest you hold off on doing any more clerking of AFD until you have a bit more experience? Hugsyrup 10:11, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
@Hugsyrup: Ok, thats fine I'll limit myself to non-dubious relists only. N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 11:21, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
@NonsensicalSystem: personally, I'd avoid any clerking until you have more experience, but I guess it's up to you. Either way, I noticed that you've done at least two other relists where you've relisted the discussion for the third time, so that definitely needs to stop. Hugsyrup 11:38, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
@Hugsyrup: Ah, I didn't know you shouldn't do that. Yeah, I should probably stay away from any of that, at least for now. N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 11:44, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
@Fitindia: Only one !vote on the orginal listing; doesn't really have enough partisipation to be sure. Sorry for the late response, I don't really edit in the evenings N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 09:18, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
@NonsensicalSystem: I'm sorry, but this is a fundamental misunderstanding of consensus. No set number of !votes is required to achieve consensus, and in this case two (remember the nomination counts as a delete !vote) deletes with 0 dissenting opinions would appear to be clear consensus unless there is a very good reason to think otherwise. Are you aware of WP:NOQUORUM?
I'm not going to keep harping on about it because we've already agreed above that you won't clerk any more AFDs for the time being and I'm not sure that mass-reverting your clerking will help, but after our discussion above, I looked back at AFD and saw several more problematic relists by you so I am honestly surprised that Fitindia is the only person to have so far showed up here to question them. If I were you, I would seriously consider reverting any relists that AFD participants object to. Hugsyrup 09:34, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
@Hugsyrup: Will do. Probably should Whale myself. Edit: Thanks for linking policy, I wasnt aware of that one. N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 09:40, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
I concur with User:Hugsyrup and I think you should leave this to admins or experienced users to decide. I have gone through some of your edits and I think you mean well and you want to help but inadvertently you are adding more work for other users. If you need any help or you have doubts please feel free to contact me or others in the community. - FitIndia Talk Commons 10:22, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
@Fitindia and Hugsyrup: I'll leave it to the experts for now on. Sorry if I caused any extra work for any of you. Thank you all for WP:AGF. N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 10:27, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Your mistaken relist of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yaariyan (2008 film)

At 04:59, 4 February 2020, when you relisted this AfD, there was unanimous consensus for deletion. You should have let an administrator close it. Also, AfDs should not be relisted three times. Please do not attempt to process AfDs unless you are an andministrator or very familiar with AfD process. Thanks, Sandstein 09:58, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

@Sandstein: Thanks for the heads up, however this relist was before the comments above. I have realised my mistake and am no longer closing AfDs.N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 19:28, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

2A02:C7D:1FB0:CE00:B457:F136:DF86:894's comments

Will this web page be updated to reflect that Farrah has been exposed as a drug cheat? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:1FB0:CE00:B457:F136:DF86:894 (talk) 09:22, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

@2A02:C7D:1FB0:CE00:B457:F136:DF86:894: You will need to provide a source; Wikipedia has strong regulations against putting unsourced infomation on BLPs. If you can provide a verifiable, reliable source then please add it with your content. Thanks. N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 09:41, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Sandbox AfC

My apologies I thought that someone was just trying to be smart - didn't realise it was a vandal at work. Dan arndt (talk) 09:12, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

@Dan arndt: Thanks! N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 09:13, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
  • You would not believe some of things I have seen trying to get thru the AfC prcess. Good luck with your future editing. Dan arndt (talk) 09:15, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Your pc acceptance at Hezekiah

I'm sorry, but pending changes was put on in part to stop this editor, using 2 IP addresses (school and home apparently) from disrupting the article. I'm reverting it. Doug Weller talk 15:53, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

@Doug Weller: Oops, sorry! N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 08:45, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
We all make mistakes, I can make very stupid ones. Doug Weller talk 16:08, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

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New page reviewer granted

Hi NonsensicalSystem. Your account has been added to the "New page reviewers" user group. Please check back at WP:PERM in case your user right is time limited or probationary. This user group allows you to review new pages through the Curation system and mark them as patrolled, tag them for maintenance issues, or nominate them for deletion. The list of articles awaiting review is located at the New Pages Feed. New page reviewing is vital to maintaining the integrity of the encyclopedia. If you have not already done so, you must read the tutorial at New Pages Review, the linked guides and essays, and fully understand the deletion policy. If you need any help or want to discuss the process, you are welcome to use the new page reviewer talk page. In addition, please remember:

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Be more careful with redirect CSDs

This is a bad CSD tag and one that you didn't notify me for. It's clearly not an alternative name and ineligible for R3 as explained here and in the initial edit summary.

Please be more thorough in checking names before you tag redirects for R3 in the future. It only takes a few seconds to look up R3 candidates. — MarkH21talk 09:40, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

@MarkH21: Oops, sorry. I forgot that the Page Curation Tool doesn't auto notify like TW. I'll probably stick to what I'm good at (normal CSDs rather than RD CSDs). NonsensicalSystem(err0r?)(.log) 09:43, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
No worries. When you're confident about a CSD candidate, just take an extra 30 seconds to check one more time :) Your effort and work at curation are duly appreciated! — MarkH21talk 09:46, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Query: creating company page - deleted by NonsensicalSystem

Hello there!

I was trying to create a company page on Wikipedia. However, it was deleted by NonsensicalSystem. Request your guidance as to why it happened and how to create a company page.

Cheers! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coolbergofficial (talk • contribs) 11:16, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

@Coolbergofficial: Becuase your username and the page in question was promotional, I have reason to believe you have a Conflict of Interest. Please do not create pages were you have a COI.
Also, becuase your username is promotional you may be blocked until you request a new username. However, advertising is not allowed no matter your username. You are still welcome to make constructive, useful contributions on a new username. Thank you! NonsensicalSystem(err0r?)(.log) 11:34, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Wha-pow!

High five!
For helping me with the pesky User talk:84.115.65.231. You deserve a teamwork high five! - Littlecat, is your mailbox really in the wall? 10:00, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Trouted

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: Because you have the troutme topicon. It’s just too tempting! - Littlecat, is your mailbox really in the wall? 10:02, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! NonsensicalSystem(err0r?)(.log) 10:06, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Please assist

Hi ,

GSS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GSS wrote a statement on my talk page claiming I have used copyright material. I think he is trying to say that's the reason he deleted my content. But that is completely false. All three images I included have been upload by me with the same account name onto wiki commons because I took those pictures. Could you please assist, investigate and write something on my page that confirms this because it is very annoying. I am new to wikipedia so if I have mistakenly wrote this request in the wrong place then apologies. Thanks. (Interesting009 (talk) 09:56, 17 March 2020 (UTC))

@Interesting009: Thank you for creating the draft. However, I have little experiance in the area of copyright. It would be easier to go direcly to GSS yourself. NonsensicalSystem(err0r?)(.log) 09:58, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

(Interesting009 (talk) 10:12, 17 March 2020 (UTC))

@NonsensicalSystem: Thanks for the reply. But he is the one who falsely accused me because of his ulterior motives. But thanks anyway.

Question on Username colour

May I ask how your username is highlighted? Some sort of CSS code? Please let me know. I actually want to highlight my name myself. Thanks! - Littlecat, is your mailbox really in the wall? 11:54, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

@Littlecat456: I use 
 <span style="background-color: blue; color: white">SIG</span>
but you can change the colours around if you want. Its quite fun to mess around with your sigs, I did it a lot when I was new! NonsensicalSystem(err0r?)(.log) 12:03, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
@NonsensicalSystem: No, as in actually as the title of your userpage and talk page, not your sig. But thanks anyway. - Littlecat, is your mailbox really in the wall? 12:10, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
@Littlecat456: Ah, I see: {DISPLAYTITLE:User talk:span style="background-color: blue; color: white"'''NonsensicalSystem'''</span>}
Its the same thing, but use the DISPLAYTITLE tag. Simply change it from my username and the colours (if you want) and it should be good to go! (I've modified it to display properly; use 2 '{' and dont forget to close the tags) NonsensicalSystem(err0r?)(.log) 12:13, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
@Littlecat456: Nice green colour! NonsensicalSystem(err0r?)(.log) 12:25, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

CVUA

 Hello, NonsensicalSystem/Archive 1! I have seen your hard work reverting vandalism, and I would like to thank you. But do you want to go to the next level? Would you like to know how reverts, warnings, reports, blocks, and bans all come together to keep this Encyclopedia free from disruption? Then consider enrolling today! Leave a message on my talk page or visit the Academy's information page. Chris Troutman (talk) 13:36, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
@Chris troutman: Thanks for the heads up, but I think I have enough EXP in countervandalism already. I might have a bit more of a look around sooner or later though. Thanks! NonsensicalSystem(err0r?)(.log) 13:42, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
I agree, you have a fair bit of experience already. I am a proponent of formalized training because you may pick up one or two important points that you haven't learned "on the job." Further, upon completion you can display a user template indicating that you graduated both formally demonstrating your skills and re-ifying the legitimacy of the course. Finally, there are semi-automated tools which some trainers could teach you. If this isn't something you want to pursue, no worries. Chris Troutman (talk) 13:45, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
@Chris troutman: Huh. I'll probably enroll soon enough. Got to go offline though, see you in CUVA. NonsensicalSystem(err0r?)(.log) 13:47, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Question about Hinsmeer tag

Hello NonsensicalSystem! I am just curious why you tagged Hinsmeer as being a possible UPOL violation? Thanks! --TheSandDoctor Talk 22:05, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

@TheSandDoctor: Hi. I put it there becuase the filter log detected the user adding 'Https://hinsmeer.blogspot.com' onto an article. They cancelled it but it was still logged to the edit filter. Thanks! NonsensicalSystem(err0r?)(.log) 08:46, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
Since the site no longer exists and I don't have any evidence that the name is a role account of sorts, I am going to remove it from the category. Is that okay with you or do you have any objections? Thank you for clarifying. --TheSandDoctor Talk 17:48, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
@SandDoctor: I have no objection. It was an edge case to begin with, I do not mind. sorry for the late response; wifi was down NonsensicalSystem(err0r?)(.log) 09:03, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
Removed. Thanks. --TheSandDoctor Talk 17:29, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

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Ultimatejerry2s Comments

Ah, got it (I am a little new to Wikipedia editing), made a mistake on the edit of "History of the United States." --- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ultimatejerry2 (talk • contribs) 13:52, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

@Ultimatejerry2: You can say that kind of stuff, just remember to source your changes by finding a reliable source such as a newspaper. NonsensicalSystem(err0r?)(.log) 13:55, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
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