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Obama edit[edit]

Hi - ok, first of all the link isn't working, so I can't even read the reference, but it appears to be a blog post, and they are generally discouraged right off the bat as not reliable sources. In this case, the title of the post appears to be something to the effect of "Obama's cocaine-pot use does it" and that does not sound anything like a news article about an impending announcement, but rather a POV opinion blog post that doesn't belong as a reference. Maybe the writer mentions his/her opinion that Obama is going to announce soon - I don't know because I can't see it - but that's not a reliable source and dcoesn't belong. This isn't a news site - we can wait for something official, especially since we have plenty of speculative comments already about his possible announcing. If you want to add something with citation that's great - but try to stick with real news stories as much as possible. Thanks Tvoz | talk 22:27, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. There will be lots more to post on this topic, I am sure! Tvoz | talk 22:44, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I'd say the source is legitimate, but in my opinion there's really no substance to the piece - everyone knows he's about to make an announcement, and this just states the obvious - it's not like they have a quote from Obama or even from a staffer, it's just the newspeople keeping the story alive as they wait for something real to say. We're not a news site that needs constant updates on something already stated, and I just don't think this is saying anything more than we already are saying. What should be do, have daily posts that say he's close to announcing? I think its a little silly - I think we should wait until there's something real to say - either his own announcement (and I don't think we're going to have to wait too long for that) or something from a staffer that tells us more than we already know. DOes that make sense? Tvoz | talk 07:16, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello from a main page regular[edit]

Recent vandal attacks on the main page where an 'interesting' picture has been snuck in via unprotected subparts of the main page have been annoying at the least - Yes it's true. It has been one or two lapses of concentration by admins who forgot to protect something that they placed on the front page templates. Admins are human, they do make mistakes. Everyone has been poked and reminded. I'm not saying that it won't happen again, but everything that should be done has.

However.

What should happen when such a vandal attacks? Within minutes someone with admin ability spots it, quietly reverts it and covers the cracks that the vandal oozed in via. The vandal is blocked, defeated and deflated, they move on.

What does happen when such a vandal attacks? Everyone, their dog, cat, hamster and rabbits swamp this talk page with "OMG!11!! I'M OFFENDED!! ARGH! ARGH! MY EYES WTF!" style messages of outrage and indignation. The vandal says "HAR HAR PWND! I EMS TEH 1337", posts several taunting messages about how good they are and revels in the afterglow of their nuclear attack.

Eventually, within minutes someone with admin ability spots it, reverts it and covers the cracks that the vandal oozed in via. The vandal is blocked and moves on with a self-satified smug smile and sticky underpants.

People. If you get all up in arms about it, you're feeding the vandal's ego. Just let it pass. It will be reverted within minutes. --Monotonehell 10:40, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi[edit]

I really liked your comments about Mr. Obama's "race" on the talk page. It shut everything down most effectively. I wish I could do that:). You might be interested in helping me research Glasgow Emancipation Society. I'm going to try to stub it today with the little bit of info that I have, but I can't seem to find sources on the web that are viable. It's a fascinating topic...Nina Odell 13:05, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You are AWESOME. If you didn't like Friends, I'd ask you to marry me. I'm going to work on it when I get back. Nina Odell 17:49, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hours. I need a hot tub. I'm getting sick, and need to get over it quickly. Put all the references in there, even if you can't write content for them right now. I'll read them and expand later. If you would also be so kind, put a link in there to James McCune Smith in the "See also" section. Much appreciated (waiting for my ride even as we "speak"). Nina Odell 18:10, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm back - you did extraordinary work. Unbelievable. I've got other irons in the fire at the moment, but I'm going to calm down soon and get busy. Thank you so much - these references and the stub are a huge weight off. Nina Odell 00:03, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Righteous.Nina Odell 00:18, 6 January 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Glasgow Emancipation Society[edit]

Hi, Again, thank you so much for your research and stubbing of this article. In case you haven't noticed, I recreated the references using citeweb (see Citation templates). Even though the sources seem rich, unfortunately they're not on closer inspection.

The super-rich source you found contain all primary sources. In other words, using them other than sparingly would constitute original research. I've been trying to find secondary sources, but no one seems to have used these primary sources to write a paper or essay that's published online.

If you go to the "current projects" sub-page on my userpage, you'll see a couple of sources I've been given from a question I asked about this article at the humanities help desk. I asked them specifically to find me some secondary sources. If all this is Greek to you, just ask me on my talk page and I'll clarify. NinaOdell | Talk 14:22, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PS: I also listed this article as a "new article" at Wikiproject:Scotland. I'm hoping that someone will take an interest who is actually in Scotland and has access to the books that the Help desk mentioned. I do find it a fascinating topic, but I simply don't have the money right now to buy the books myself.

Presidential Birthday article[edit]

Hi, The article you created List of United States Presidents by birthday could be deleted soon. I suggested it could be combined with List of United States Presidents by date of birth. I haven't seen you make a comment on it yet. My idea would be to cut&paste, redirect, then delete it from the template. That is if it does get deleted. Jjmillerhistorian 17:46, 17 January 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Orphaned fair use image (Image:Beatleslogo.gif)[edit]

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Fair Use montage[edit]

See Wikipedia:Image use policy#Photo montages. Even as separate images, the covers should not be used unless they are going to be discussed in the article, as we try to avoid Fair Use media when possible. Thnaks, ed g2s • talk 22:31, 1 February 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Copyright problems with Image:HarryPotterCovers.jpg[edit]

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Orphaned fair use image (Image:Miarose.jpg)[edit]

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WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter, Issue 10, February 2007[edit]

WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter
Issue 010 – February 2007

Beatles News
  • George Harrison's handwritten lyrics to the song While My Guitar Gently Weeps have fetched $300,000 (£152,552) in a Scottsdale (Arizona, United States) memorabilia auction (15 January). It contained lines omitted from the final version of the song. Specifically :
I look from the wings at the play you are staging
While my guitar gently weeps
As I'm sitting here doing nothing but aging
Still my guitar gently weeps

On the reverse of the page appears the lyrics to Hey Jude in the hand of Mal Evans.

Project News
  • The Project lead article (The Beatles, for those not paying attention) has had its Good Article status reviewed, and the consensus was 'keep'. The efforts of User:Andreasegde in supplying the requested citations, and other editors in helping with general editing, and the strength of arguments for retaining the grade sufficiently impressed the reviewers.
  • After a great deal of work Paul McCartney was promoted as a Featured Article candidate. Unfortunately it failed to succeed. Among other comments, including the correct length of dash (or hyphen), from reviewers was that the article was too long and also that it needed further information included in some of the sections(!?) The promotor, and driving force behind the insertion of a great many references, citations and facts (and the remover of unwanted text, and splitter of information into daughter articles), Andreasegde vigorously argued the case for promotion but was unsuccessful.
  • Mimi Smith was successfully nominated for WP:Good article status. The major editor to whom accolades should be directed is... Andreasegde.
The Beatles' Influence on Recording Music by Apepper and Wings 1973 UK Tour by Danthemankhan.
  • The hottest Project page this month was possibly, despite the Article Status related issues regarding both The Beatles and Paul McCartney mentioned above, the third attempt to delete The Beatles trivia in less than a year. As was the case for the second attempt at AfD the result, after an energetic discourse, was keep but with a suggestion that the article be retitled to reduce the incidence of deletion requests. Editors are invited to discuss possible new titles, and/or the need for same, at Talk:The Beatles trivia.
  • Other Project news - Lar did a bit of a purge of the subscription list during last month's newsletter delivery. Some folks were kept (and are at the active list), some who clearly are not active on wikipedia at all were removed with a "you've been removed" message left (and are at the inactive list), and some folks who were less active but not as clearly completely inactive were given a "this may be your last newsletter" message (and are at the possibly inactive list). A more nuanced subscription list is now here (in several subpages as outlined above), and anyone who wants to tweak their status (moving one's self back is a clear cut sign that we should deliver the newsletter to you!) should feel free. Please respect the rather spartan formatting though, this list is used by WP:AWB currently, and may be used by other automation in future.
Issue of the Month

Hottest issue or concern for this month is the perennial matter of Project articles losing their Good or Featured Article status. The main Project page now includes a status board that gives the current ratings of some of the more important articles. Let's make sure the core articles (The Beatles, John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison, and Ringo Starr) reach or retain Good Article status, if not Featured Article. If you are aware of another major article whose status is at risk, add it to the board.

Issue of last Month

Since there has been no response in the matter of the use of lowercase for the initial letter of the when applied with Beatles from the opponents, it is likely that the case for using lowercase only will be adopted as Project policy by default. User:LessHeard vanU will draw up a recommendation and submit it to the Policy talkpage in a few days.

From the Editors

We are pleased to welcome the contributions of Alexcalamaro to this newsletter. Any editor can include an item of interest or news; this medium can be an excellent tool for getting a comment seen by a great number of project members. As it says below, this is your newsletter.

If you've just joined, add your name to the Participants section of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy!

Member News

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Orphaned fair use image (Image:HarryPotterCovers.jpg)[edit]

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WTHRU talking about![edit]

Succesion box goes where? There is no set place! Check previous winners. It goes anywhere. Check last two, three are all Philip Seymour Hoffman, Jamie Foxx, Sean Penn. Nice try. It was in sync with previous winners. --Masterpedia 05:20, 26 February 2007 (UTC) [reply]

WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter, Issue 11, March 2007[edit]

WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter
Issue 011 – March 2007

Beatles News
  • On February 5, 2007, the Beatles' Apple Corps and Apple, Inc. (Apple Computer) announced a settlement of their latest trademark dispute involving use of the Apple trademark on the iTunes Music Store. In May of 2006, the High Court ruled in favor of Apple, but Neil Aspinall, manager of Apple Corps, vowed to appeal. Evidently, in the intervening months, the two companies negotiated a settlement. The settlement is discussed in this AP story. For background on the case, see Apple Corps v. Apple Computer. For fans, this may mean that Beatle music will be available someday on iTunes. Despite rumors of a February 2007 release, the material is still unavailalble.
Project News
  • There were no Project article adoptions for the month of February.
  • Project Policy has now been altered to reflect that the use of lowercase for the letter "t" of the word "the" in the Beatles is now considered the correct rendition.
Member News
  • New members to the project since the last issue include (although the first is a long time contributor who apparently has only just found the Participants section);
Tvoz
Freshacconci
Liamshaw
John Cardinal
Mezlo
ErleGrey
Captain Waters
Hey jude, don't let me down
Issue of the Month

See below. There is genuine concern that the Newsletter is getting stale in terms of content and variety, and that the same individuals are featured each month. Furthermore, lack of "news" is hindering the timely distribution as the editors wait for something to report. All Project editors are encouraged to give their news, suggestions and thoughts to keep the 'Letter vital and interesting. If making direct contributions do not appeal, please give a mention on the Newsletter talkpage and it will be incorporated!

From the Editors

Help is needed for the job of putting future Newsletters together. The present incumbent is finding it difficult to reflect the breadth of the Project, focusing on much the same individuals and articles each month, and has decided to beg for contributions from other individuals. Interested persons need only start working on next months issue to qualify. It really is that simple!

If you've just joined, add your name to the Participants section of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy!

Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 012 – April 2007). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing!

Contributors to this Issue
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Chicago 2016 Olympic bid CHICOTW[edit]

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Chicago Collaboration of the Week
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In the past you have edited Chicago 2016 Olympic bid. This week it has been selected as the WikiProject Chicago Collaboration of the week. Each week a Chicago related article in need of attention is selected as the Chicago COTW. Feel free to come help us improve it towards the quality level of a Wikipedia featured article. Your input in future selections would also be appreciated. See the To Do List to suggest a change or to see an open tasks list. See past CHICOTWs. Note our good articles.
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TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 17:02, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

News Time[edit]

WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter
Issue 012 – April 2007

Beatles News
  • On Friday 30th March, a deranged fan was held after attempting to force his way into Paul McCartney's mansion. See here for more details.
  • Apple Corps continues to make news, after the recent settlement with Apple Computer over the use of the Apple trademark. On April 10th, the company announced that long-time chief executive Neil Aspinall had stepped down and had been replaced by American Jeff Jones. It was also announced that another long term dispute, this time with EMI over royalties, had been amicably settled prior to Aspinall's departure.[1][2]
Project News
  • The article "Jeff Jones (music industry executive)" suddenly becomes of top importance in the Apple sphere of Beatledom. User:Kingboyk has created a stub on the man, but the article needs urgent beefing up (including basic biographical data such as date and place of birth) and, if possible, a photograph of the new Apple chief executive.
  • With the debate over "the Beatles" vs "The Beatles" continuing to cause ill feeling and a number of resignations from the project from advocates on both sides, Kingboyk attempted to diffuse the situation by blanking the Project Policy page and tagging it as {{historical}}. Although this unilateral action hasn't been reverted as of the time of writing, the reaction was mixed, with two members rejoining the project and others stating their disagreement. With the issue still not resolved, the page was sent to Miscellany for Deletion, for the wider community (and WikiProject The Beatles members) to consider the issue.
Member News
  • The membership list has been trimmed, with inactive members listed seperately to help gauge the status of the project. If you've been incorrectly listed as inactive, please don't be offended - just move yourself back to the main list.
The Rutles: The legendary group who inspired lesser imitators like "The Beatles". WikiWorld, March 2007
From the Editors

This has been a tumultuous month for the project yet again.

We need your input on how the project should work and what it's role should be. And we need to start getting Featured Articles, folks! :)

Next issue

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Notability of OpenLeft[edit]

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AfD nomination of Harry Potter family tree[edit]

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List of Presidents of the United States[edit]

Hi there, I reverted your edit on this page which appeared to remove the headers from the article demarcating the different centuries. If this was a mistake on my part, please let me know or discuss it on the article's talk page. Thanks! ~Eliz81(C) 20:56, 17 October 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:GeorgeWatkins.jpg[edit]

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WikiProject The Beatles[edit]

Your user name is on the “Inactive, or have just popped out for a cup of tea...” list on the Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles page. You can move it back to the “Participants” list if you feel this is not the case. :) -- WikiProject The Beatles 15:13, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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