User talk:Mathsci/Archive 29

Advice

Mathsci, this is really meant as a friendly request – could you please consider just taking a step back at the Arbcom thing? I appreciate you feel exasperated, but with all these repeated posts I'm afraid you are really not doing yourself a favour. Just give it a rest for now. You have made your case understood, but now you are coming across as increasingly aggressive, and that only fuels the whole mess more. Please just try and get some distance from this whole situation. (You're always welcome to give me a note if any new problem emerges, of course.) Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:06, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

I appreciate your point. There is a pile-on effect, accompanied by wikilawyering with misunderstandings proliferating. That shows that there's very little order in the whole affair. It is particularly difficult, because Cla68 has made the case exclusively about me. However, I would far prefer if the views of those manning WP:AE and interpreting arbcom rulings took the fore. They have the best idea of what's going on. The point about the motion is that it was phrased as something general whereas it applied to a very specific set of users. I am in fact extremely tired in real life with a whole set of things to do made more difficult by being away from home.

Any way, thanks for your advice. I will not respond now except privately through you or other AE administrators. Mathsci (talk) 16:55, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Get well soon.

I'm always glad to see well edited articles about mathematics on Wikipedia, so I hope you will be able to join that effort as your other activities permit. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 22:45, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Experiment

Mathsci (UCL HH) 195.194.4.65 (talk) 17:00, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Wishing you well

Mathsci, you have my sincere wishes on a favorable recovery. You are always (and have always been) in my thoughts as a stalwart defender of this noble, but perhaps ultimately foolish, project that we all have so heavily invested ourselves in. I have always looked up to you in this regard, since I very first joined this project, although I have not had much direct interaction with you. I myself am unable to commit myself as stauchly as you to the project. For instance, ArbCom scares the hell out of me. In spite of this I have found myself embroiled in minor skirmishes of my own, some of my own making no doubt, but more just because there was no one else around. One thing I have noticed is that after a period of rest, often those windmills we once fought against tend to dissolve when we do not champion ourselves against them. It is the conflict itself that sustains them. I hope you will take this for what it is: sincere counsel from a much less experienced Wikipedian (as well as a young mathematician). I do consider you a friend, and wish you well. Yours, Sławomir Biały (talk) 00:39, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Best wishes for a speedy recovery. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 01:44, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Get well soon. Volunteer Marek  01:53, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Me too. Relax, take a break, best wishes William M. Connolley (talk) 08:20, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Reconsider

This really isn't going to do you any favors. In general I'd recommend you back off a bit. I'm familiar with some of the folks you're up against and when they can tell they're getting to you, they bore in that much harder. The best response is to be as dull, laconic and bland as you can manage. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 22:33, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

I think this sounds like excellent advice. There are far too many unsavory people gaining pleasure from your pain. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 22:42, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

A definite "highly problematic" and "deliberately provocative" strategy has been followed by one arbitrator. That has not gone unnoticed by other editors, administrators and arbitrators. We get the arbitrators that we vote for. The six I voted for were all elected with a clean number of votes. Next time, however, I might look more carefully at their content edits. Mathsci (talk) 22:46, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for this. It's very hard to see this ending well. Should you decide for any reason, to stop reverting Echigo mole, a large fraction of the problem would go away. It is possible that others might not be as alert as you to notice his edits, but they would not face the confusing problem that you are always the center of attention for those who recommend sanctions. One option is that you could simply open SPI reports, or notify an admin who has been following R&I, instead of doing reverts yourself. I hope you have noticed that Echigo mole has found a way to confuse and frustrate Arbcom. His plan seems to depend on you reacting in a predictable manner. You could stop being predictable. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 22:52, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Ed and I take your point. Like MastCell (no longer active), SBHB is completely clueful, so there was no hesitation in acting on his advice. I wish we had more clueful arbitrators. In this particular case, where the troll sock was contradicting me, I deliberately scored through their trolling with a note, to make clear that this was a sock edit. Establishing continuity with sockpuppets of any puppetmaster requires a lot of effort and, after possibly clarifying the early stages of editing in 2008-2009, an LTA page will not be so hard to prepare. That has been the missing element. In preparing an LTA page, I think it might be helfpul to have copies of deleted hoax articles made available in private, since I believe A.K.Nole's disruptive editing probably predates the registration of his username. The Devil's Advocate has indicated his intention to act as a proxy-editor for Zeromus1 and hence for two site-banned editors (Captain Occam and Ferahgo the Assassin),[1] so the current disruption is unlikely to end any time soon. If that happens, the socking issues will have become completely out of control. Mathsci (talk) 23:09, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Really, just let it rest a while. I know how patronizing it is when someone says "for your own good" but I'm going to say it anyway. I think you could benefit from a week or so of kicking back, listening to some good tunes, and generally staying the hell away from this goddamn dysfunctional "community" to do whatever makes you happy. Consider or disregard this as you will. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 05:08, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Arbitrators were told that there would be a request for amendment if the motion was passed. That was even before I privately provided details to AGK of why Zeromus1 was almost certainly a sockpuppet of Occam-Ferahgo. I have no interest in contributing academically to a project where there is no protection from harassment. Mathsci (talk) 05:21, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Please stop

As long as WMF insists on anyone-can-edit IP editing, we're going have vandals and trolls. You don't deserve to be harassed, obviously, but you just reward the trolling when you comment on closed ANI threads and go sticking Sockpuppet tags on IP accounts. Trolls want recognition and by naming a suspect you just encourage them. NE Ent 13:35, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

If you do't like me tagging IPsocks of Mikemikev, make a complaint somewhere. I would rather you didn't edit my user page any more or post messages on this talk page. If you want to be a know-it-all busybody, please do it somewhere else. Some time ago I privately contacted two admins to semiprotect my user page and Ramdrake's. That is what you should have done instead of posting here in this officious and self-important way. If the messages from the Korean IPs hadn't involved the crying girl or trolling or tags announcing Ramdrake's death, you might have had a point. But that was not the case. There are too many of the IPs to report them at WP:SPI. I would estimate so far there have been about 10-15. Thanks, Mathsci (talk) 14:29, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

I can't speak for anything else, but if you wish for your user page to be semi-protected then I'm happy to do so. --(ʞɿɐʇ) ɐuɐʞsǝp 14:39, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

That would be very kind of you. If you could also semiprotect Ramdrake's that would also be great. (I had previously asked Alison and NuclearWarfare, since they are familiar with Mikemikev's postings.) Thanks for your help, Mathsci (talk) 14:41, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

I've indefinitely semi-protected both user pages. In the case of Ramdrake, a userpage is normally only protected indefinitely at the request of the respective user, but it seems relevant to make an exception to that in this case. I will leave a note for Ramdrake informing him I have protected his user page and that it can be removed if he so wishes. Additionally, I note that I ran a checkuser on that IP just in case, and nothing turned up. --(ʞɿɐʇ) ɐuɐʞsǝp 14:47, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for acting so speedily. I wouldn't have expected checkuser to help because the IPs seem to be Mikemikev displaced in Korea. The editing style is identical to his previous trolling. Cheers, Mathsci (talk) 14:52, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

It's worth checking these things anyway, as it only takes a few second and people some times mess these things up and leave something that checkuser can pick up on. Anyway, let me know if I can be of further assistance. --(ʞɿɐʇ) ɐuɐʞsǝp 14:55, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Please...

... do me a favour and stay off the Amendmend page thread too from now on. You're unlikely to achieve anything good by posting more. The more you say, the more others will feel entitled to say in return, and it will be yet another unstoppable avalanche of mutual recriminations just as we had a few weeks ago. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:35, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Links?

Got some links for those notices or warnings from EdJohnston and MBisanz to SightWatcher you just mentioned over in Arbistan? Fut.Perf. ☼ 18:03, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

I added them there. Cheers, Mathsci (talk) 18:11, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Userfied article

See User:Mathsci/Jeremy Dunning-Davies - please let me know when you're finished. Dougweller (talk) 17:37, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks. Mathsci (talk) 17:49, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

SPI case

I've closed the SPI request. Regarding those unblocked accounts, if they do cause any trouble feel free to ping me to block them (or ping any other admin, you can use this diff if you need to convince them). --(ʞɿɐʇ) ɐuɐʞsǝp 18:23, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

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Seasons greetings to you and yours
Dougweller (talk) 14:16, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Question

Hey Mathsci, I was just wondering why you reverted my recent readdition of the section of AN/I entitled "Requesting the deletion of an edit summary"? I was under the impression that, especially on high-traffic (relatively speaking) pages such as AN/I, it is always ill-advised to delete content as opposed to allowing it to enter the AN/I archives. Juhachi's request involved non-public information, but this information was not actually included in the post on AN/I. Could you please let me know of your reasoning? Kind regards, — Oli ^OR Pyfan! 10:24, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Because it involved active outing and the message was removed by the person who added it. I sent a message to oversight and two admins and the person who twice outed the OP has now been indefinitely blocked. You received an email explaining this a few minutes ago (please read it) and there was an explanation in my edit summary. Outing issues should never be discussed on ANI while identifying info is still viewable on wikipedia. Mathsci (talk) 10:30, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Ok, thanks, just got the email. I wasn't aware of the specifics of the case, I wouldn't have restored the post if I hadn't noticed that Boing! had already removed the edit summary in question. Hope the situation is resolved without too much (extra) drama. Regards, — Oli ^OR Pyfan! 10:34, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Everything was done by email. As I said there was a second edit summary with a RL name visible when you made the revert. BsZ rev-delled both edit summaries and made the indef block. Mathsci (talk) 10:41, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

The Gimme accounts

Not acknowledging the Gimmetoo account as being an alternate of Gimmetrow has become a sticking point for Gimmetrow, and the fact that a checkuser was done to link the accounts when he refused to do so has seriously angered him. I got a similar ration on my talkpage when I ran for checkuser: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kww&oldid=455735566#Your_response is chock full of relevant links and discussion.—Kww(talk) 15:49, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

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It appeared to me that your overwriting another editor’s posting here was accidental—you didn’t mention it in the edit summary—so I restored it. Please feel free to revert if you had good reason for removing the message.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 10:22, 3 January 2013 (UTC) Yes, this is a known glitch in WP software caused by edit-conflict. Thanks for noticing and correcting it. Mathsci (talk) 10:29, 3 January 2013 (UTC) Note on copyvio You can't even have copyvio in a sandbox, I've told him that. Also, have you read WP:Close paraphrase? Dougweller (talk) 12:17, 3 January 2013 (UTC) Thanks I appreciate you reporting this. I wasn't sure if we should file SPI reports for IPs and now I know:) Hope you are returning to good health. — ArtifexMayhem (talk) 08:28, 9 January 2013 (UTC) AE request Last time at AE, you were instructed to refrain from filing new requests without first consulting with administrators. Did you? If not, I'd strongly recommend you remove the filing. As far as I'm concerned, I logged a warning for him and he hasn't edited since, so I don't really see why this shouldn't be put to rest now. Escalation is, again, in nobody's interest. Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:31, 9 January 2013 (UTC) I did contact an arbitrator twice yesterday with no reply. I will continue with the SPI report and remove the report at AE. Mathsci (talk) 10:37, 9 January 2013 (UTC) Thank you. Just for the record, the AE outcome said you should in any case wait for agreement from an uninvolved admin, so you should certainly not have gone ahead in the absence of a response (especially since you contacted them yesterday but the main offending edit you had to complain about was only today.) About an SPI, how would that relate to the Arbcom's prior statement that the account is a legitimate clean start [2]? Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:44, 9 January 2013 (UTC) As far as communicating with arbcom is concerned, the previous sockpuppet account Zeromus1 misrepresented themselves to the arbitration committee in their appeal, claiming to edit from China. FtA has a previous history of misrepresenting sockpuppetry issues to arbitrators. I communicated with an arbitrator a month ago about the possibility of sockpuppetry, during the run-up to ACE 2012. At that stage I had no clear idea of who the puppetmaster might be (at that early stage I incorrectly suspected John245/Chester Markel/Alessandra Napolitano). Per WP:BEANS, it might be a better idea to send a report by email directly to a checkuser on arbcom, who can pass it on to other arbitrators if they see fit. That's what happened with Zeromus1. Mathsci (talk) 10:50, 9 January 2013 (UTC) YRC just beat me to it, but do not remove other editors comments per WP:TPG Darkness Shines (talk) 11:14, 9 January 2013 (UTC) Which "talk page" are you referring to? If you mean WP:AE, then that is not a talk page. The talk page is at WT:AE, so Youreallycan's hyperbolic trolling should be moved there or deleted. The instructions at the top of the page are easy enough to read. Mathsci (talk) 11:17, 9 January 2013 (UTC) Indeed. Well, somebody is certainly going to get around removing it again, soon enough, so it's probably not worth bothering about right now. Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:29, 9 January 2013 (UTC) Sandstein seems to have agreed with me about WT:AE. Mathsci (talk) 11:58, 9 January 2013 (UTC) For reference removal by Sandstein. --Enric Naval (talk) 18:59, 9 January 2013 (UTC) ANI notification Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. I'm dropping these templates on the talk pages of every user who has posted at Talk:Men's rights in the last two sections. This is not meant to imply that I necessarily find any of your edits problematic, and is simply meant to inform you. Kevin Gorman (talk) 07:01, 11 January 2013 (UTC) Thanks, but... That was my quote in response to YRC's personal attacks which I immediatelty selfreverted.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 23:53, 22 January 2013 (UTC) Oops, sorry about that. The editing boxes were messed up on WP:ANI, which partly explains the confusion. I did also verify that your old user page is still viewable using the wayback machine ... but Youreallycan has no business enquiring or making guesses about your nationality. Mathsci (talk) 00:38, 23 January 2013 (UTC) Well obviously he hasn't. Thanks for the hint about the waybackmachine - I am guessing there is no way to do anything about that?·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 00:41, 23 January 2013 (UTC) Not really but it could disappear eventually. At the moment records seem to start in late 2011. Mathsci (talk) 00:54, 23 January 2013 (UTC) Editor interaction I think it's a great thing that you're doing with the Doncram Orlady interaction. I really don't have time to do any of it myself (I wasn't even able to get any evidence provided), but the whole Nyttend angle has completely been missed, so if you have the time, it would be great if you could do a Doncram Nyttend interaction. Ryan Vesey 08:21, 27 January 2013 (UTC) Unfortunately I don't think I'll be able to, unless there's a better, more refined kind of interaction tool. Nyttend has over 3,000 common srticles with Doncram, so my manual method would take too long. Mathsci (talk) 14:38, 28 January 2013 (UTC) I think I understand what you are doing and might be able to help. Would something like this be useful? I can also generate the regular side by side diff format (which would be faster). I'd be happy to gen up some samples if you'd like. — ArtifexMayhem (talk) 07:19, 29 January 2013 (UTC) Thanks. 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Theo's Little Bot (error?) 04:50, 14 April 2013 (UTC) Precious again Bach music Thank you for treating Bach's instrumental music with profound knowledge, namely Clavier-Übung III and now Orgelbüchlein, - repeating: you are an awesome Wikipedian (4 December 2009)! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:18, 21 March 2012 (UTC) A year ago, you were the 102nd recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, repeated in br'erly style, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:15, 21 April 2013 (UTC) Not Echigo Mole User:Qaz122a is at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Vvv321. Keri (talk) 16:52, 28 April 2013 (UTC) Thanks. There has also been confusion with Grawp socks. He likes to imitate other sockpuppeteers. Mathsci (talk) 17:01, 28 April 2013 (UTC) Hm. I did wonder about that, whether Qaz122a was actually User:Silicate minerals just trolling... Keri (talk) 17:05, 28 April 2013 (UTC) A very loud duck I like the use of a duck quacking into a megaphone. It made me chuckle. :) Rockfang (talk) 21:19, 28 April 2013 (UTC) Your remarks at Talk:Hurwitz algebra Your remarks at Talk:Hurwitz algebra here, in which you praise your own articles and belittle mine, are not appropriate for an article talk page. I remind you of Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines: Talk pages are for improving the encyclopedia, not for expressing personal opinions on a subject or an editor. Deltahedron (talk) 06:18, 29 April 2013 (UTC) Your stubs are just stubs. No need to pretend otherwise. They won't suddenly become extended articles useful for learning. Your error is to imagine that the lede of an extended article can be treated as if it were a stub. On the contrary, the lede summarises the article and the article is a summary of material from the sources selected. So please don't editorialise in a lede to write content at odds with the main body of the article, treating it as if it were a stub. If an article is drawn from sources that use the real and complex numbers, suggesting otherwise in the lede is misleading and unhelpful to the reader. The normal method of teaching and presentation in textbooks (wikipedia articles are no different) is first to treat the standard cases where matters are simple (e.g. Lie elgebras over R and C, compact Lie groups, etc) and then mention greater generality in later subsections, comments or footnotes. You are at the moment concentrating on one of the smaller and easier parts of a theory that is part of the Jordan algebra approach to Hermitian symmetric spaces, the theory treated in the excellent source of Jacques Faraut and Adam Koranyi, pioneered by Max Koecher and his school. That material is not properly represented on wikipedia. I am now adding that material. You are discussing a tiny part of that programme. If you want to add comments about what might happen in general for arbitrary fields, do not do so prominently in the lede. That is WP:UNDUE. You can easily a section called "Further directions" summarising generalisations and surveying the literature. That is normal practise. No article on Lie algebras would treat anyhting other than R and C first and foremost. In 2011 and 2012, I made a similar series of edits related to the theory of univalent functions, quasiconformal mappings and Teichmüller theory, again an under-represented topic area on wikipedia. A classic source is Ahlfors' book on quasiconformal mappings. Here are some of the articles I created there ( I revamped other articles like Beltrami equation): Farrell–Markushevich theorem,Singular integral operators on closed curves, Neumann–Poincaré operator, Symmetrizable compact operator, Sobolev spaces for planar domains, Radó–Kneser–Choquet theorem, Douady–Earle extension, Singular integral operators of convolution type, Markov–Kakutani fixed-point theorem, Earle–Hamilton fixed-point theorem, Uniformly bounded representation, Weyl–von Neumann theorem, Oscillator representation, Positive harmonic function, Carathéodory kernel theorem, Loewner differential equation, Dirichlet space, Littlewood subordination theorem, Nevanlinna's criterion, Grunsky matrix (expanded), Grunsky's theorem, Koenigs function, Denjoy–Wolff theorem, Hartogs–Rosenthal theorem. With barely 3,500 content edits and less than a year here, you are a relatively new editor. As far as I am aware, I am among the main contributors in mathematics. So in summary please don't treat ledes as if they are stubs, with your own WP:OR editorilaising. A lede just summarises an article and needless generality confuses the reader. You're not helping to improve content at the moment. By agitating on my talk page, you are showing an unwillingless to repect WP:DEADLINE. A longer attention span is required for producing extended content. Mathsci (talk) 07:46, 29 April 2013 (UTC) Hurwitz's theorem (composition algebras) The other day you wrote that if a Euclidean algebra is strictly larger than R then "the argument above shows that it contains H" (the quaternions). But earlier the article says that C is a Euclidean algebra. So isn't your statement wrong? Eric Kvaalen (talk) 12:20, 1 May 2013 (UTC) There is an obvious missing sentence. Mathsci (talk) 23:32, 1 May 2013 (UTC) AE Uh, I already noticed that and reverted myself. You have now restored the sock's edit... Apteva (talk) 06:15, 4 May 2013 (UTC) Much better! All is well that ends well. 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I was actually in the process of moving that to WP:AN (where it should be) before it was deleted :) Dusti*poke* 06:46, 20 June 2013 (UTC) Yes, that is the appropriate place. However, as Dennis Brown wrote, it's probably advisable to allow a few days for the dust to settle before bringing this up again. Mathsci (talk) 06:55, 20 June 2013 (UTC) Jmh649 evidence Evidence you asked for posted on the RFAR. PumpkinSky talk 10:48, 22 June 2013 (UTC) Thanks for fixing Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case; I tried to fix it myself but was unable to. I appreciate the help. Drmies (talk) 20:55, 23 June 2013 (UTC) Johann Spangenberg Could you please tell me why the File:Spangenberg-1545.png is not allowed to use in the german and portuguese versions of Wikipedia? I would be glad to illustrate the biography of this author with it. Thank you very much.Claudio Pistilli (talk) 05:08, 2 July 2013 (UTC) Why is it not allowed? I actually paid for the print having searched for it on the web. It can be copied over to commons, provided that you attribute me as the original uploader. Mathsci (talk) 05:44, 2 July 2013 (UTC) Nostalgia Hi, do you remember: File:Ocnacube.jpg? It may have a copyright issue because of Freedom_of_panorama#United_States. If you can contact the good professor then that may be the easiest to sort it out. More details are at a fledgling project here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Canoe1967/Sculptors --Canoe1967 (talk) 20:28, 3 July 2013 (UTC) The same file has also been asked about today at Talk:Octacube (sculpture), not sure if the two are related. Your input there would be welcome.--Salix (talk): 20:40, 3 July 2013 (UTC) The picture was taken with his camera and given to me. He gave me several others, which I cannot locate at the moment. I also have a scan of the relevant page in Playboy made by another expert in von Neumann algebras. I am not sure I can be of any more help. 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