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Just a quick note

Just a quick note to apologise for the lack of my Wikipedia activity recently. I will be semi-inactive for at least the next week. This is due to exams, so don't give up on me yet = ). What with the summer holidays coming up I should be ample to up my activity in the not too distant future!Thanks for your patience. Regards, --Cameron (T|C) 16:47, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm rather nervous but I'll be fine when they're over. I have rather good marks in the other subjects so I can't fail the year now but I want to attend another school so I need quite good grades! --Cameron (T|C) 18:07, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

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Fixed. Malinaccier P. (talk) 12:00, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

New message

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Just a quick question about my new tool. GO-PCHS-NJROTC (Messages) 00:53, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Your granting of rollback

Hey there Malinaccier, we edit conflicted trying to give rollback to User:GO-PCHS-NJROTC (I was trying to approve him as well). I noticed that you left a very nice message on his talk, and was wondering if that was a template/from your userspace, or just something you made up? The reason I ask is because I really really like it, and was wondering if I could easily copy it for future rollback requests. Cheers, Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 00:56, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Admin coaching

Hello Malinaccier, you might remember giving me rollback a while ago. I realize you stand full as a coach now, (o.k because I don't quite have 3 months and 1000 edits yet), but when you have an opening I hope you will consider me. (If you have someone else in mind, think I should wait, or don't feel like it, that's fine.) Jkasd 02:31, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestions! Jkasd 14:54, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

WP:HAU

Hello yet again. I regretfully inform you that the bot we were using to update the user status at Wikipedia:Highly Active Users, SoxBot V, was blocked for its constant updating. With this bot out of operation, a patch is in the works. Until that patch is reviewed and accepted by the developers, some options have been presented to use as workarounds: 1) Qui monobook (not available in Internet Explorer); 2) User:Hersfold/StatusTemplate; 3) Manually updating User:StatusBot/Status/USERNAME; or 4) Not worry about it and wait for the patch to go through, which hopefully won't take long. If you have another method, you can use that, too. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Useight (talk) 17:56, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Eric J. Wilson

Aren't afds supposed to run for 5 days? Katr67 (talk) 20:39, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Proper Name moves

Hello, I noticed that Hal Jeffcoat was moved to Harold Jeffcoat, with the reason given, "Move to more proper name". He has always been referred to as Hal, and baseball reference sites refer to him in the headers as this as well. Is this some sort of policy, and if so, why has Ken Griffey Jr. not been moved to his proper name, George Kenneth Griffey Jr. or George Griffey Jr., or Sammy Sosa to Samuel Sosa? His son, another baseball player, is also named Harold Jeffcoat. I do not understand why this change was necessary. SashaNein (talk) 14:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

RFA thanks

hey mal, I just wanted to drop in and thank you for participating in my recent RFA. you may be interested in checking out my in-depth RFA analysis (comments welcome). templated thank spam is also available below. cheers, xenocidic (talk) 13:30, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Back again!

Thanks so much for waiting Malinaccier! I should be editing more again as of tomorrow! I won't be on too much today as I have to recover from my traumatic maths exam! Next week I have another two exams but I am good at both of those subjects so I will still be able to dedicate some of my time to wikipedia! Thanks again, --Cameron (T|C) 13:54, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

My RFB

I have answered your question regarding admin coaching. Useight (talk) 22:12, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

My admin coaching request

I know that I have not been active for very long here, but since I became active, I've mostly been doing things like vandal-fighting and taggin. I ask how much of my edit history you looked at, as, as of late, I have not been very active in the main space. The reason for this is that my computer is nearing death. Every once and while I must quit my browser so that my computer does not crash. Some times I have to quit it because it cannot load diffs. So, I have not been doing much, mostly userspace editing as you saw. When I am able to acess other computers, like my brother's, I usually become more active against vandalism, as his computer can handle the scripts I have installed, such as TW.

I know I have not been here long, and I may not have enough experience in some aspects, but in others I do, and having a coach would greatly improve my understanding of the current standing policies and guilelines.

I apologize if this response feels fragmented, I never thought of myself as a good writer.— DædαlusT@lk / Improve\ Contribs 23:56, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

In response to your reply, alright, I shall reply when that time hits, but, beside that, according to WP:ACOACH it says the minimum edits before coaching can begin is 1000, so I am rather confused.— DædαlusT@lk / Improve\ Contribs 00:28, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Admin Coaching Request Status

I signed up for this before the requirements were changed to that... does that still count? :P  Moo  Chat  01:16, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok, ok... as soon as i meet this arbitrary requirement, i'll put myself back on... Thanks  Moo  Chat  03:28, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Thnakyou

Thank-you for installing rollback i promise to use it only for vandalism.ElectricalVandilize Me 02:35, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

RE:Admin Coaching

Shows how much attention you paid, I alread have been adopted. Sexy Sea Bassist 14:09, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I'm fine with that. and actually, I think I'll be fine as I am for now. I have the all th links i need stored in a text file (ie, admin alert) and I also have huggle and rollback. VICTORY! Sexy Sea Bassist 14:32, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Tagged articles

I had a little trouble spelling your name in the search bar. :P Well, here you go:

--RyRy5 (talk) 21:39, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

RyRy, let's do this at User:Malinaccier/Temporary taggings So that I can transclude it on Steve's talk page. Malinaccier (talk) 21:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Okay. But I tagged an article earlier, and I believe it was deleted. Do you think you can try to find it in my deleted edits so I can put it at that page? Thanks, RyRy5 (talk) 00:54, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 Done Malinaccier (talk) 01:08, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Yup, that's the one. Thanks. -- RyRy5 (talk) 01:13, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't know about Jessica gaude. What do you think? -- RyRy5 (talk) 01:57, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Google does mention her everywhere. It's probably just a lack ofnotability per WP:BIO.--RyRy5 (talk) 02:00, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
I noticed that also. Well, I'll just continou tagging. Just one more until I reach 15. I should tell Steve when I'm done.--RyRy5 (talk) 02:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Rollback granted

How do I use this tool? ~Meldshal42 02:10, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

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I (heart) Malinaccier

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I realise it's no more monumentous than installing Twinkle, but thanks so much for the rollback rights! You have no idea how long it has been and how much time I have spent trying to get rid of all those pesky bits of vandalism. You know the kind, the ones with "conflicting intermediate edits" that mean that you have to go way back in the history and copy and paste... well, those days are gone thanks to you! Anyway, congrats on becoming admin, I was away when you got "promoted", and haven't seen you around since! I may come back to you regarding further clarification of when I can and can't rollback - until then, keep on Wiki-ing! -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 10:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Admin

Thank you for taking the time to check me out on the requests for administration list. However, you said that I should be editing articles for content not just patrolling recent changes. I have been writing articles, from scratch. You can see articles that I have finished (someone else may have edited since) on this list. Deadwood Bonsai Techniques, Uaru, John Kiggins, National Bonsai Foundation. And articles I'm working on. Species of Bamboo, Ningen. There is also a list of articles I plan on starting soon on my user page. Thank you. Remilo (talk) 11:51, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

RE:Rollback

Thank you very much, how kind of you. Many thanks, yours. Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs)☺ 16:20, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

My Rfa

Thanks, Malinaccier, for participating in my recent RfA, which recently passed with 81 support and 1 neutral !votes. I appreciate all the support and constructive criticism offered in my RfA and I thank you for taking the time to !vote in my nomination. I feel so honoured to be trusted by so many of you and please, if you have any advice, comments or complaints about my actions as an administrator, leave a note on my talk page.

I would also like to thank Acalamari, Rlevse and Nishkid64, for their nomination statements.
Thank you again.
AngelOfSadness talk 23:20, 8 June 2008 (UTC)


My RfA

Thanks for taking the time to comment :). There's no need to apologise, and i'll hopefully see you in 4-6 months when i reapply. Best of luck until then. Ironholds 21:04, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Rollback

Thank you for providing me with this tool! It won't be misused. tabor 00:23, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Rollback

Heya. Told you I'd be here asking questions! Is it within my rights under the rollback group to revert edits like the ones this guy has made to his UT page? [1] I imagine that it'll be sorted out by the time you get back to me (man there are some speedy blockers around here at the moment!), but for future reference? Thanks muchly -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 10:00, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

OK, so the page in question has actually been deleted... but you admins have a way around that, right? Just telling you in case deleted edits don't show up automatically. -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 10:04, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Based on the nature of the comments (extreme and or/racist vulgarity), I don't think anyone would have a problem you using rollback in that case - though RFPP would've been a better way to resolve the situation. xenocidic (talk) 10:17, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, both of you. I'll keep these tips in mind the next time I see this kind of thing! -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 02:03, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

CHU

You've made a few mistakes in your recent clerking of CHU; I've already removed one such application, where the note was not relevant to the request. An 'Autocap' clerknote would only be used if the username was "Example → example" with the reason being "I want a smaller case username". Rudget (Help?) 16:43, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I trust you will retract your second use of the template. Rudget (Help?) 16:43, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Of course--it was undone before I saw your second message. Thanks for the notice! Malinaccier (talk) 16:45, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
No problem. If you ever need any other advice, I'd probably suggest you ask Qst (talk · contribs), because, although he doesn't clerk now, he has a comprehensive knowledge of what/when templates should be used. Rudget (Help?) 16:48, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

My RFB

Thank you for your comments in my RFB. Since it was only at 64%, it was a shoo-in to be unsuccessful, so I withdrew. I didn't want it to run until its scheduled close time because my intent in standing for RFB was to help the bureaucrats with their workload, not give them one more RfX to close. Through the course of my RFB, I received some very valuable feedback, some of it was contradictary, but other points were well agreed upon. I have ceased my admin coaching for now to give me time to revamp my method. I don't want to give up coaching completely, but I'm going to find a different angle from which to approach it. As for my RFA Standards, I am going to do some deep intraspection. I wrote those standards six months ago and I will slowly retool them. This will take some time for me to really dig down and express what I want in an admin candidate. If, after some serious time of deep thought, I don't find anything to change in them, I'll leave them the way they are. I'm not going to change them just because of some community disagreement as to what they should be. Will I stand for RFB again in the future? I don't know. Perhaps some time down the road, when my tenure as an administrator is greater than one year, if there is a pressing need for more active bureaucrats, maybe. If there no pressing need, then maybe not. Useight (talk) 02:59, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Rollback

Thank you for giving me rollback. It will be helpful when I watch the Edit log. BuickCenturyDriver (talk) 00:29, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Account Creation Interface

You have been approved to use the Internal Account Creation Interface! Some important notes before you get started:

  1. Abuse of the interface is not tolerated, and access can be revoked by an interface admin at a moment's notice
  2. You should ask an administrator for the "accountcreator" usergroup, which overrides the 6 account creations/day limit. However, this usergroup too can be removed by any Wiki admin at a moment's notice if abused.

Now that you have read the generic warnings, please read (or re-read if you have read it already) the tool's documentation page which includes a link to the tool's request-filling interface. If you ever need any help, I myself am an interface admin and developer, so feel free to drop me a line on my talk page if you need help, or would like a new welcome template added to the autowelcome feature! --FastLizard4 (Talk•Index•Sign) 01:24, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

What is this? The Transhumanist    01:38, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Approval for the Account Creation Toolserver interface. Malinaccier (talk) 01:40, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
What's it for? The Transhumanist    21:28, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
You create accounts for people who want account names that are similar to others, or their IP address is blocked from creating new accounts. Malinaccier (talk) 14:45, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
My magical admin parser function was b0rked. I think I fixed it :P --FastLizard4 (Talk•Index•Sign) 06:01, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism

Thanks for letting me know, please do not use bold text with me. I am terribally sensetive. Sincerely, Hellboy2hell (talk) 05:26, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Feel free to leave me a message here. Dont forget to sign it by adding ~~~~ on to the end!
It's all right and If there is anything I can help you with, let me know. Sincerely, Hellboy2hell (talk) 05:33, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
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RE: Dendodge's Coaching

Alright then. I must say that I would have been rubbish coaching through phase three! I'm trying to go on Wikibreak but just when I think I'm out, they pull me back in! weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 05:52, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

User Busesboys

Just a heads up, I noticed in ACC you created an account for 66.82.9.104 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log). His last contrib was yesterday and it was vandalism. Just thought you might wanna keep an eye on em.--Finalnight (talk) 02:22, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up! Because the IP is a sharedip, I think that it'll be fine. Once again, thanks (I'll keep an eye on him). Malinaccier (talk) 02:26, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
No prob, i know sometimes it is hard to keep up with everything in ACC when there are a lot of requests. Thanks!--Finalnight (talk) 02:28, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

joining the ranks of the admins

Thanks for your thought-provoking question and kind words in my successful RfA. Now I’m off to do some fixin'... Pinkville (talk) 00:46, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for participating in my RfA, and your speedy congrats, much appreciated :), which passed with a final count of 42 supporting, 2 opposing and 2 neutral. I would like to thank Keeper76 especially for the great nomination. I look forward to assist the project and its community as an administrator. Thanks again, Cenarium Talk 00:27, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Rfa thanks

Thank you for participating in my RfA. The Rfa was successful with 64 Support and 1 Neutral. None of this would have happened without your support. I would also like to thank my nominator Wizardman and my sensei/co-nom bibliomaniac15--Lenticel (talk) 09:12, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
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RfA

Two editors have expressed interest in nominating me for adminship. Since you said you'd be willing to give me a co-nom, I'd like to take that time to ask you before I accept if you see anything that could be problematic in RfA. Rlevse reccomended in ADCO that I have a GA or FA when I submit a request, and I am unsure whether or not account compromisation incidents (see my talk page, also) will get in the way of success, so I'd like to hear your input. :-) Cheers, --Mizu onna sango15/水女珊瑚15 06:48, 23 June 2008 (UTC).

AWC

You probably don't know who I am, but I am a user who also supports the AWC. Because it's most likely going to be deleted, I have begun to work on a new page, the Challenge Center (I didn't add the link because writing my username is repetitive. If you want to see it, it's on the top of my userpage.) Anyway, looking at the MFD for AWC, I saw the deletionists want updaters. Therefore, I intend to have three overseers of the site. I would be one, but I am looking for two others. Would you be willing to be another one of the overseers? You contributions would make you a perfect user for the job. Also, edtis to the Challenge Center are always welcome. It's still in the construction phase. Please reply back. --LAAFan 16:53, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up! Malinaccier (talk) 21:09, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

My RfA

Thank you for supporting my recent RfA. I solemnly swear I am up to no good....no wait, I meant to say I promise not to go bezerk ;) I did appreciate your comments and your honesty and I'll try to live up to the vote of confidence. Karanacs (talk) 17:02, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Admin nomination

Ok, you seem to know what your talking about. I'd be glad to accept a nomination. Thanks Grey Wanderer | Talk 01:21, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for nominated me, I was a surprise and meant a lot. However, as you probably have guessed I"m withdrawing my nomination based on WP:SNOW. I image I'll run again in a few months when I have a better handle on WP:CSD. Once I've accomplished that, I won't have anymore skeletons in my closet and I'll be much better off. Thanks again. Grey Wanderer (talk) 18:53, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


Around the World

Request

You were highly recommended to me. As an especially wiki-capable individual.

I'll be co-coordinating a major collaboration, the "Around the World Competition", at the WP:AWC July 15th.

The problem is, I don't have any co-coordinators yet, and time is rapidly running out. I'm looking for a couple skilled and dedicated Wikipedians.

It will entail 1) preparing for the event, and 2) overseeing the actual event.

The competition may run for several months, or even longer. There's no need for you to commit to the whole thing, I can find others later after it's started if you should get pulled away or burnt out.

But I need some help getting this up and running, through mid-August at least.

The competition, a fun way to frame a collaboration, will focus on the development of a set of 200+ pages to be transferred to article space when they are completed (some of them are complete enough that they are in article space already, and those are included in this project too). It would take a single individual years working full time to complete these by himself, so it is necessary to seek the community's help. And we might as well make it fun, to attract as many people as possible.

Each contestant will be using advanced tools like AWB and Linky to improve a single information item at a time across the entire set.

That will allow the building of skill with respect to tracking down and presenting each data type, which should improve the overall efficiency and quality of the project. And it's a novel approach which presents the World itself as a sort of race track for the contestants to compete on.

This is going to be a blast.

When completed, each page will be a profile/outline/(web)site-map of a country of the World. The set will be a valuable reference aid and a showpiece of Wikipedia.

Once it begins, co-coordinators will need to be on hand to help answer participants' questions on the talk page, and to dole out the assignments. Also, I'll be dividing the responsibility of presenting the awards, amongst the co-coordinators. One per award type.

This project is the largest wiki-collaboration I've ever attempted. Bigger than the main page redesign, bigger than the Tip of the day project, and even bigger than the help system overhaul.

I'm in the process of writing up the instructions for the contest, and I've been working with graphics designers to create the awards that will be given away. And I've been working on the pages themselves, because there needs to be enough quality content there for participants to easily envision what they will be working to complete. The AWC's newsletter is being used to promote the event, but the event also needs to be promoted far and wide on Wikipedia itself (on relevant pages) when the time comes (after the awards are ready). I've contacted the editor-in-chief of The Signpost, but have not received a reply, so I'll probably have to start visiting their newsroom on a regular basis.

As you can see, I have my hands full, and I could sure use some help.

Please think it over.

I look forward to your reply.

The Transhumanist    22:15, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for volunteering

No, it's not about portals.

It's about outlines.

Check these out: Albania • Argentina • Australia • Canada • Ecuador • Egypt • France • Germany • Iceland • India • Indonesia • Iraq • Ireland • Italy • Isle of Man • Israel • Japan • Macau • Mexico • Russia • Taiwan • United Kingdom • United States

The page titles leave something to be desired, yes, but I'm working on that. ;)

The above are the most developed pages so far, and even these are far from being finished. They're missing images, the standard design these are based on is still under development (and these all get changed when the design changes, receiving new standard links, being rearranged, etc.), some are missing maps, and so on.

Once they are refined, they will be even more impressive than they are now. But they're useful in their present states, so I moved them to article space so users can benefit from them.

Imagine if we had one for every single country.  :)

Well, we do!

But the rest are in much rougher shape than the above. See the list at Wikipedia:WikiProject Lists of basic topics. Notice the region section and government section are in error on many of them, because they utilize temporary standard links (generated by template) to provide a starting point for editing (not all countries have parliaments, for example).

Each standard item must be checked on every list, and if you make a pass with AWB on all 200 lists for the hundreds of items that are currently on the lists (and there will be more), you can see this would take a single person many months.

Which makes this perfect for a collaboration.

But there are certain sections I think should be completed before the competition begins, to give the participants a sense of what these will become, and to avoid confusion. The intros need to be completed (lead paragraph, location map, flag, and coat of arms). Then the administrative division section, and the government branches sections - these have the most customized information and I'm not sure if they can easily be doled out one item at a time to participants. Besides, the coordinators need to be familiar with making passes on these with AWB and/or Linky, to be able to help others with their questions, and to provide tips on how to do it effectively (there are many tricks and shortcuts).

Also, I'm not sure yet how the collaboration on the history section will be handled either.

But we'll figure something out.

By the way, it's already been announced that the the competition will be held at the AWC, but we can run it on a subpage.

One of my strategies is to boost the subscribership of the AWC newsletter as much as possible, and use that to announce updates to this event. I've already arranged this with Sharkface and have his complete cooperation and permission. The competition will need to be promoted before and during, to help keep the excitement and enthusiasm level up up up.

By the time the competition starts, I hope to have the AWC's newsletter subscribership up to over 200. So far it's at 57.

Since you are on the project now, could you post the following notice somewhere on your user or talk page so more people can see it?

Well, I'm done blabbering for now.

I look forward to your thoughts, ideas, comments, suggestions, questions, etc.

The Transhumanist    10:22, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Plans / task list

Here's a better organized list of what I'm trying to get accomplished:

  • Get approval for changing the names of all the pages in the set (and the superset they belong to) - pending
  • Produce the awards (at least 3)
    • Design the concept for each award (their general look) -  Done
    • Find graphics designers to help with creating the images for the awards - ongoing, until they are complete. In communication with five currently.
    • Assign the image for each award to a graphics designer to create/complete
      • Globe - requested submissions, one more element (a globe stand) is needed for compositing
      • Medal - requested submissions, main submission nearing completion
      • Trophy - requested submissions
    • Create the awards (design and compose the template for each), displaying their corresponding images in them
      • Globe
      • Medal
      • Trophy
  • Find two co-coordinators to help prepare for and run the event - one found, one to go
  • Assign prep tasks amongst co-coordinators
  • Promote the event
    • Promote the AWC and AWC's newsletter
      • Post a new notice on the WP:CBB weekly - first one done, 6 more to go
      • Ask all our co-coordinators and graphics designers to post a notice on their user pages / talk pages
      • Ask in the newsletter itself for subscribers to post a notice on their user pages / talk pages
    • Promote the event on the AWC page and through the AWC's newsletter
      • Post notices at the top of the AWC (weekly) - first one done, 6 more to go
      • Post newsletter fortnightly - first one done, 3 more to go
    • Promote the event on relevant pages throughout the Wikipedia namespace
      • As soon as the awards are ready
    • To/through The Signpost
      • Contact them ASAP to inquire how coverage of such events should be initiated
  • Prepare the pages in the set:
    • Complete the pages in the article namespace to match the current standard design (which will continue to be refined), to provide examples and motivation - the higher quality these are before the collaboration begins, the better
    • Complete certain sections in all the pages in the set:
      • Intro section
        • Lead section (copy first paragraph from corresponding articles)
        • Location map (fix image link)  Done
        • Flag (fix image link)
        • Coat of arms (fix image link)
        • Adjust height of Flag and Coat of arms to match
      • Problem sections:
        • Administrative division section
        • Government branches sections
          • Executive branch
          • Legislative branch
          • Judicial branch
          • (Some countries have more)
  • Build a task list ("challenge queue") of tasks to be delegated in the competition (the rest of what needs to be done to the pages in the set) - in progress, and ongoing
  • Create a sign up page for participants in the competition
  • Prepare the competition page
    • Write introduction and instructions for the competition - in progress
    • Assignments section
    • Results section
  • Assign responsibilities amongst co-coordinators
  • Co-coordinate the event
    • Man the talk page (to answer questions, address problems, etc.)
    • Assign challenges to participants (randomize who gets each task), but assign tasks from the top of the page design, down
    • Check results (each and every page)
    • Present awards
    • Post updates in the newsletter
    • Report results to the Signpost
    • Refine the set's standard design (the template) based on ideas, suggestions, and feedback generated during the competition, and add corresponding challenges to the queue (note that the template won't actually be used, it just happens to be where the standard design is, by virtue of being designed there initially. The template was used to create the pages, and update them before customized info was added to them.)

How many co-coordinators do you think we'll need?  :)

The Transhumanist    04:59, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

First task

I guess it's time to get your feet wet.  :)

The outlines each need a flag and coat of arms.

I used standard file names to generate links for them, but that only matched some of them.

I need you to fix the red links, so that the flag and coat of arms display on each page.

Linky can be used for this, as can AWB.

An effective approach for isolating the pages with redlinks would be to place a list of all the outlines in a sandbox, and then use search/replace to convert those file names to the standard name used for the flag links. The links that don't work will turn up red, showing you which pages need its flag link to be replaced. Remove the blue links from the list, and then convert the links back to the outline names, and there is your working list. Repeat the process in another sandbox for the coat of arms links. Make sense?

The flag and coat of arms are displayed on the article for each country.

Good luck.

If you have any questions, please let me know.

By the way, the graphics design is going well (if you are curious about what's happening on that front, see my talk page, and Penubag's talk page). Feel free to make suggestions.

Have fun.

The Transhumanist    20:21, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

You're going to have to give me awhile to see if I can download AWB (I have some compatibility problems). Sorry, Malinaccier (talk) 01:49, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Actually, since the task is visually intensive, you'll find Linky more effective. But it requires Firefox.
Once Linky is installed, you can select (holding down the left mouse button) an area of your screen, and then hit the right mouse button to get your pull-down menu. Linky will be on there. Click linky and load the highlighted links on your screen into tabs (it can handle 99 tabs at a time). Switch between tabs with Ctrl-tab. Once you are done working on a country in a tab, press Ctrl-W, and that will instantly close the current tab and display the next one with the next country in it. It's lightning fast once the tabs are loaded initially. For this type of editing, it dances circles around AWB. (AWB is great for searching and replacing; Linky is great for hands-on editing of multiple pages where you need to see what you are doing, viewing, previewing, etc.).


I just finished repairing the location map links using Linky to preload and display the pages. And now I'm using Linky to preload the pages so I can easily insert lead paragraphs into them.
Interiot swears by tabs, and says if you aren't hitting Ctrl-tab or Ctrl-W a lot (referring to the Firefox keys), then you just aren't going fast enough.
It's hard to grasp it until you actually try it. I didn't get it either until I experienced it. Linky + tabs rock. The Transhumanist    21:11, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


Just in case you didn't know, you have to be listed on the AutoWikiBrowser's Checkpage on Wikipedia before AWB will work. Admins can add and delete users from the checkpage. The Transhumanist    21:15, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


Some scripts appear to conflict with AWB. If you have mysterious problems, blanking your monobook.js page might help. The Transhumanist    21:17, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


CAUTION: If you use AWB on the set, be sure to have "Auto tag", "Apply general fixes", and "Unicodify whole article" disabled. The pages don't need tags (we already know they're drafts), and the general fixes have some bugs (it ruins "main" links with pipes in them) - also, these pages are works in progress and utilize non-standard syntax to guide editors in their development (they remove or upgrade the temp syntax as they do their fixes). Things like empty links that are there to be filled in, temporary pipes that are there as place holders to be replaced by the actual pipe, etc. AWB's auto features wipe all that out, so be careful. The Transhumanist    21:47, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Using the find and replace option on Microsoft Word (I'm still having troubles with AWB and I don't use Firefox. For now this is a good substitute.), I came up with this list for the flags. I guess I'll get to work! Malinaccier (talk) 23:26, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

First task (nearly) complete

I have completed the first task of placing a flag and coat of arms picture on every needing article. The only problem is that the Coat of Arms for these two countries is missing. I'm not sure how to proceed because I think you need permission to use the COA of a country. What do we do? Malinaccier (talk) 20:55, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Nice job. Those pages are already starting to look good.
There were a few coats of arms that were missing or suffered from some glitch. I've fixed the ones I could. I couldn't find one for:
A bot came by and removed the coat of arms image from:
Fair use applies - the articles are about those countries, their governments, their symbols, etc. Note that the coat of arms identifies a country (in the same way a logo identifies a company; e.g., see IBM), and can be used when covering that country. We need to find what workaround allows the main articles and templates for those countries to display the coat of arms without the bot coming along and removing them, and use the same workaround.
For those that are missing, they can probably be found on each country's website. When uploading the images, be sure to include a fair use rationale tag.
The Transhumanist    01:08, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Second task

Take a look at the pairs of flags and coats of arms displayed on these pages (speed tip: use Linky, then cycle through them with Ctrl-W):

Countries: Albania • Argentina • Australia • Canada • Ecuador • Egypt • France • Germany • Iceland • India • Indonesia • Iraq • Ireland • Italy • Isle of Man • Israel • Japan • Macau • Mexico • Russia • Taiwan • United Kingdom • United States

Note how the heights the members of each pair match.

The same thing needs to be done for the rest of the pages in the set. Try not to make them too big (you can increase the size of one, or decrease the size of the other, or both, to make them match). Go for the general size range that the completed pairs are at.

In the meantime, I'm in the process of adding lead paragraphs to the set.

The Transhumanist    01:23, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Task 3 (requires an admin)

I was going to do this the hard way...

And then Quiddity reminded me that admins have "move subpages".

Please delete Wikipedia:WikiProject Topical outlines (I copy/pasted it), and then move Wikipedia:WikiProject Lists of basic topics along with all of its subpages to Wikipedia:WikiProject Topical outlines.

It will save me a lot of work.  :)

The Transhumanist    19:05, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

It only moves 100 subpages automatically. I'm currently looking for another automatic workaround. Malinaccier (talk) 19:52, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
User talk:Dycedarg says he can handle renames with his bot. I'm waiting for a reply from him about this task now, and renaming the pagename part of the name too. The Transhumanist    23:17, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Alright. Malinaccier (talk) 23:19, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
The talk page for the WikiProject has disappeared. It was either at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Lists of basic topics or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Topical outlines. Wherever it is, it needs to be restored and matched up with Wikipedia:WikiProject Topical outlines. Just a heads up. The Transhumanist    06:32, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Malinaccier, I only saw this section now. I concluded myself that you probably deleted Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Lists of basic topics by mistake (because you cited CSD G-whatever, the housekeeping one), so I undeleted it and moved it just as I see now that Transhumanist requested. If your deletion was not a mistake, then please undo my undeletion and accept my apologies. Cheers, Jitse Niesen (talk) 10:57, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

←Yeah it was a mistake. Thanks! Malinaccier (talk) 19:13, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


For future reference, I thought of a way to move more than 100 subpages. Unclick or disable "move subpages" and then move the parent page back. Then reactivate "move subpages" and do the move again. Repeat until all subpages are moved. Would that work? The Transhumanist    20:03, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

No. I tried that, but because redirects are automatically created for moved pages, when you try to move the page again, you automatically move the same pages you already moved (now as redirects) and get an error. We'll have to think of something else. :\ Malinaccier (talk) 22:51, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing. 1) Move page 1 with 100 subpages to page 2. 2) Disable "move subpages". 3) Move page 2 back over the redirect at page 1. 4) Delete page 2 (it's now a redirect page). 5) Reactivate "move subpages" 6) Move page 1 with another 100 subpages to page 2. Did you try that? Which step gives you an error message? The Transhumanist    01:43, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
That's exactly what I'm talking about :). Because every automatically moved page is recreated as a redirect, when you try to move the subpages again it automatically tries to move the first 100 subpages (alphabetically), which are still there but in redirect form. Malinaccier (talk) 01:46, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
But you are an admin, and can delete those redirects, right? (For future reference, since it no longer applies - the situation has changed. I've posted a new message about this below). The Transhumanist    01:00, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Status report

Things are moving ahead pretty much on schedule.

Getting the rename approved took over a week (at the Village pump), and the rename should be completed in the next day or two (by a bot operator).

The main set now looks like this. Be sure to check out the countries listed on there. I believe the new names are more professional and representative than the old ones were, and profoundly affect how they may be linked to and presented throughout the encyclopedia. When completed, these outlines will be perfect companions to the articles on those countries.

One of the images for the three awards is almost complete, and currently looks like this:

We're also working on two more images for two more awards: a globe-in-stand and a trophy. For the globe we're waiting on a stand for the globe to be set in, and the conceptual prototype for the trophy looks like this:

I'm a little behind on the promotion, as a newsletter is due to be sent out.

Prepping the pages in the set is also moving forward. You did an excellent job on fixing the flag and coat of arms image links, and I've started adding lead paragraphs. After the leads are added and the image sizes of the flags and coats of arms are adjusted to match each other, the intros will be done! Then the main problem we will have will be the regions and government branches sections. Those are intensive. We'll need more co-coordinators to complete those, and...

I'm in the process of recruiting more co-coordinators.

If there is anything I'm missing or forgetting, please let me know.

The Transhumanist    21:25, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

I can't think of anything, but I'd like to congratulate you on the job well done with the awards. I especially like the one of Atlas holding up the Wikipedia puzzle ball. I'll continue working on the sizing of the flags and COAs. Thanks for the update! Malinaccier (talk) 22:54, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
That Atlas image is a rough rough rough draft. It won't look much like that when it's done. That was just a quicky composite to see if the basic concept will work. Wait til you see the completed work.  :) The Transhumanist    02:47, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Wow :). Malinaccier (talk) 02:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Step backwards

I'm afraid I was a little too aggressive, and the consensus on the move came into question (at WP:ANI), so I've had to revert the topical outlines back. Could you undo the move of the 100 that you did above? :)

The Transhumanist    01:05, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

It can't automatically move the 100 pages back over redirects, so I'm going to have to manually delete all the redirects and then move back :(. Malinaccier (talk) 21:13, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 Done Malinaccier (talk) 22:01, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

We've got to get caught up! Time is running out.

I've fallen behind on preparations for Around the World.

The renaming proposal got set back to square one. I don't know if 18 days is enough time for that, but I'll give it a try.

While I was working on that, the graphics design ground to a halt. But I'm getting that going again too.

How are you doing on resizing the flags and coats of arms?

July 15th is approaching fast, and there's still lots more to do!  :)

The Transhumanist    19:32, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I've been really busy lately with other things, and haven't made much progress (I'm midway through the "G's"). How are the lead paragraphs coming? Malinaccier (talk) 21:24, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Up to the G's? Damn, I better catch up! The Transhumanist    00:12, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks

Thanks for granting me rollback, I pretty much learned how to use it thanks.Gears Of War 20:18, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

My RfA

Hello Malinaccier! I withdrew my nomination. Thank you for your support. Most users who opposed my RfA expressed that I need to argue better in AfDs. I will take care about the concerns raised by them and apply again after sometime. If you have nay suggestions for me, feel free to contact me. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 12:55, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Concern re rollback

Hi. I wonder if you'd take a look at some edits by an editor to whom you recently gave rollback capability. This diff rolled back a spelling correction, the next one, which I queried at the editor's talk page and which he/she has since self-reverted, removed stats added to an infobox, and the next one removed an interwiki link. Not sure this editor's quite ready for extra tools just yet. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 15:27, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Just for the record, the correct spelling is "prophecy", and GoW was correct to revert. Can't speak for the other ones, though. Tan | 39 15:32, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
Depends; I interpreted it as the verb, which is spelt with an "s", though I'd agree it's. arguable. Either way, the rolled-back change wasn't vandalism. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 15:52, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
I've given him a minor warning. These are his first offenses. Malinaccier (talk) 18:20, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
I only just got RollBack. And I'm still learning how to use it, and sometmes I accidentally press [Roll back], but most of the tme when I use my Roll, it s on vandalism.Gears Of War 19:17, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
I removed rollback from him having seen this series of edits, prior to seeing this conversation. If you're willing to trust him to improve, feel free to revert me. (BTW Tan, prophesy is the correct spelling in this context.) – iridescent 19:30, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
This isnt fair! You guys are acting like I have been making Wikipedia a worst place. Come n. I've really helpout with Roll Back. . :{Gears Of War 19:35, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure you're right there, Irid, although it hardly matters. I could point out the "antonym of indefinite" faux pas ;-) Tan | 39 23:16, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
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