User talk:Liborgone

Nominating articles for deletion

Hello Liborgone, and welcome! I noticed your edit here, adding Center on Animal Liberation Affairs and Critical animal studies to the AfD list. Unfortunately, the discussions you attempted to begin were not properly set up. I hope you'll take a minute to look at WP:BEFORE and WP:AFDHOW; AFDHOW has step-by-step instructions for properly nominating articles. I think you're pointing out legitimate concerns, and I would like to participate in the discussion once you finish all three steps. Please leave me a note here if you need any more help. Cheers! JFHJr (㊟) 17:53, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Got your message. I think you're figuring it out just fine. I removed a stray template that you left. You don't need to add the discussion to the article itself after step 1; you just have to create the AfD discussion page (step 2), and it will be linked in the red AfD notice. It looks like you've got step 3 done for both articles already.

Just so you know, deletion discussions are generally centered around notability. There are general criteria (substantial coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources) and several kinds of more specific criteria for notability. In your nominations, I hope you'll consider adding or including reasons that the subject you've nominated fails under these criteria. If you discover, on your own or through discussion, that a subject actually meets applicable notability criteria, you can always withdraw your nomination. JFHJr (㊟) 18:25, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

And, if this helps, here is a list of arguments to avoid in AfD discussions. I know I've given you a lot to look at; AfD can be daunting to plunge right into! JFHJr (㊟) 18:29, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

I noticed you attempted to bundle your nominations. In this case, I would recommend separate nominations because the two articles are sufficiently different, even if they do have similar problems. Also, those looking at the AfD page have no notice that the discussion links to both articles (the CALA not mentioned there). If you wouldn't mind, could you please create Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Center on Animal Liberation Affairs separately? Just open the link, and paste {{subst:afd2|pg=Center on Animal Liberation Affairs|cat=O|text=Why the page should be deleted}} ~~~~ Once you do that, update the link in the AfD template at the top of Center on Animal Liberation Affairs so that it doesn't point to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Critical animal studies. JFHJr (㊟) 18:47, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Looks great! Thank you! I'll be sure to weigh in soon. Happy editing! JFHJr (㊟) 19:07, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

AfD !votes

I saw your comments on my strikes at AfD. I hope I didn't come across as bossy. You don't have to explain or apologize for anything. I struck !votes only to assist the closing admin, who will likely begin by counting votes as well as reading rationales. The <small>small comments</small> were just to help you and anyone else who follows the discussion, intended to be friendly. I certainly didn't intend to alarm or disparage. I have no doubt you're editing here in good faith, and everyone else should be operating under the same lines.

If you'd like to — and only if you'd like to — you can remove your apologies, along with my <small>small comments</small> and <s>strikeouts</s>, replacing your !vote with *'''Comment''' where it's been stricken. After all, they really don't add much to the discussion about whether to keep or delete. If you do, be sure not to remove anyone's comments except yours and mine. You might leave an edit summary along the lines of Tidying discussion: [[Talk:Liborgone#AfD_!votes|correcting my !comment]]. You could even mark it as a minor edit. It's completely at your option. Nobody here knew everything at once, so whether or not you choose to replace my strikeouts, nobody will think the worse of you. Have no worries, and all the best! JFHJr (㊟) 06:06, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Your recent edits

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