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Question on my ANI Report

What's an OP? Lechonero (talk) 22:10, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Original poster. — Kudu ~I/O~ 22:11, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
Are you referring to me? If so, what should I do? Lechonero (talk) 22:15, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
I wasn't referring to the incident; I was agreeing that the replying admin had been a little bitey. — Kudu ~I/O~ 22:18, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

SPI cases

Hey. Thanks for giving your opinion on some of these SPI cases. I'd ask you to keep an eye on how you phrase your posts; in at least one case what you wrote has been misleading to editors. Thanks. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 15:58, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

I was under the impression (misunderstanding?) that an account's edits went stale after 3 months. What am I reading wrong? — Kudu ~I/O~ 19:24, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
You were correct on the staleness. I think the confusion was more that you linked the two accounts, as if it had been done by a CU or something. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 19:48, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
As a matter of fact, I didn't - I said they were ducks. WP:DUCK is usually the opposite of the CheckUser. Is there an ambiguity I'm not seeing? — Kudu ~I/O~ 19:54, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi. I got your message. It was your use of the {{staleIP}} tag that threw me off in regards to the Andreas2009 account. I thought it referred to the IP of the account, not the actual account. Dr.K. λogosπraxis 23:03, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Kudu, I wasn't referring to the staleness. I was referring to how the way you presented your findings made it look like CU results. But the issue is over and done with, and I don't see any problems with the other cases you've commented on. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 23:12, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
That too. I saw so many official-looking tags, that at first I thought a CU was replying, although in fairness, since the actual CU reply space was not used, the misunderstanding did not last long. Dr.K. λogosπraxis 23:16, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

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Your help on Bot Requests.

You were offering your help on a request I made. You said you had some programming completed and I am curious how to move forward. Do I need AWB? Thanks for your help. I've never used a bot before. Cliff (talk) 20:22, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Help us at gl.wikipedia (from WP:BTR)

OK, so once I have AutoWikiBrowser, what's next? We will appreciate your help. Thanks! --Toliño (talk) 15:11, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

I think it'll be easier if I run the bot myself. I have created an account named KuduBot on gl.wikipedia. Please check with your local bureaucrats on the bot approval process. Once the bot is authorized, come back here to tell me so, and I'll initiate it. Also, another question: how many occurrences of the template will have to be replaced, approximately? — Kudu ~I/O~ 17:17, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
These days I am the only active bureaucrat at gl.wikipedia. Pages to be changed are in this category (about 700 changes!). To have your bot approved you may start a topic in this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Toliño (talkcontribs) 17:24, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
Could you file the application for me and mention my name? Also, please include a translation to English. This is because you know the task better than me anyways and I only speak French, English and Spanish. — Kudu ~I/O~ 17:32, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
Also, since the bot will act on <1000 pages, isn't there a way to go through a "speedy" approval? That's what's often done for uncontroversial requests on en.wikipedia. — Kudu ~I/O~ 17:39, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
If not, please add a support vote to the nomination. — Kudu ~I/O~ 17:49, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
(edit conflict)  I have just made the request. According to our local policy, we must wait 7 days until we can close the request. (That's too much!) However, we can use the 5th Wikipedia pillar about ignoring all rules. So I can open a "speedy" debate at the local Village Pump to give you the bot status as soon as possible. --Toliño (talk) 17:56, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
Yes, please do so, and include a translation - that'd be great. Thanks again. — Kudu ~I/O~ 17:59, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
You've got bot rights now. I will review your edits to make sure that's what we want. Thank you for your help and patience! --Toliño (talk) 18:13, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
I've done 5 edits. Please review them and see if they're fine. I've also filed a toolserver account request for the rest: https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/ACCAPP-385Kudu ~I/O~ 18:21, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Could you please use RevDel to remove the edit summaries from those edits? They contain the regular expression and replacement text used, which I didn't want to make public. This will not happen in the future. — Kudu ~I/O~ 18:25, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

 Done --Toliño (talk) 18:29, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Wow! That's great! Once again thank you so much. Continue going! :) --Toliño (talk) 18:27, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Glad to see it worked well. Like I mentioned above, I'll wait for my toolserver account request to be approved. It shouldn't take more than a few days. — Kudu ~I/O~ 18:30, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
Update: a toolserver admin said that the request would be processed Sunday-ish. — Kudu ~I/O~ 18:55, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

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Your request for arbitration

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Your offer of help.

Hello,

I posted a request on the bot requests page and you offered your help. Reference the discussion here. Do you still have that beta? I'm still very interested in your help and appreciate your time. Thanks. Cliff (talk) 20:55, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/KuduBot 4Kudu ~I/O~ 21:40, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Tis the season

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Adoption

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Roger King Error

Hi KudulO. I just received a message saying that my recent submission on novelist Roger Frank Graham King is not being accepted because there is already an entry for him. This isn't the case. Neither of the Roger Kings listed in Wikipedia is the same person. The producer Roger Monroe King is no longer living and the British politician is Roger Douglas King. I'd love to add an entry for the novelist Roger F.G. King. Thanks for looking into this error! All the best, Maldredge Maldredge (talk) 00:19, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

{{done}} — Kudu ~I/O~ 00:34, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

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Thanks!

{{User:ClueBot III/ArchiveNow}} I've awarded the ED barnstar to Courcelles: thanks for nominating him!

(You are correct it's a slightly over-fancy name, by the way -- I have some reservations about that myself; I don't want it to sound pretentious or overly formal. But, I know that people are starting to use Wikipedia work on their CVs, as support for tenure applications, and so forth. And if citing a barnstar from the Executive Director can in any way be helpful for Wikimedians in their world outside Wikimedia, I'm happy to support that. Hence the slightly pretentious name :-)

Thanks KuduIO :-) Sue Gardner (talk) 22:21, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Ah, that's cool. :) I've been using the "Firefox chat support moderator" title for a while now in my CV! — Kudu ~I/O~ 22:31, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Roger Frank Graham King

Hi Kudu. Thanks for posting the "Roger King" article. One quick question...While Roger Frank Graham King is novelist Roger King's given name, he does not use the full name on his publications--he simply goes by "Roger King." Is it possible to change the header of the entry to Roger King (novelist) instead? I'm concerned that the entry won't be as searchable under the full name since it is not commonly used. I couldn't find a way to make this change myself. Thank you for your help! Maldredge (talk) 00:49, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

{{done}} by OP. — Kudu ~I/O~ 21:18, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK help

{{resolved|1=Kudu ~I/O~ 21:35, 22 September 2011 (UTC)}} Article looks good and would be quite awesome for DYK. :) Is this your first time doing a DYK? It's not quite as daunting as most people think it is, really. If you need any help, just ask. -- Obsidin Soul 12:34, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

I agree. Let me know if you need help moving it to mainspace. I may have to get a couple for some elderly relatives – ukexpat (talk) 15:25, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
Haha, I'm not so new. Really, I do mostly "background work" - counter-vandalism, new page patrolling, SPI and the like. Thanks for the lookover, moving and submitting. — Kudu ~I/O~ 21:19, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Bot help at gl.wp

Hello! Your help has been so useful for us. However, there are still about 400 pages within this category on which your bot made no changes. Can you complete the task please? I hope you are not spending so much time with us that you could have used in other stuff. Thank you so much once again! --Toliño (talk) 13:59, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

OK, if you don't have enough time to complete the task, please let us know the code to run a local bot so as to have this fixed as soon as possible. I will ensure that the code is not released publicly and you will be credited in the summary. --Toliño (talk) 15:44, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
Sorry for the delay - I'm now re-running the task. I'll publish the source code after it's completed. — Kudu ~I/O~ 13:59, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

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Research into the user pages of Wikipedians: Invitation to participate

Greetings,

My name is John-Paul and I am a student with the University of Alberta specializing in Communications and Technology.

I would like to include your Wikipedia user page in a study I am doing about how people present themselves online. I am interested in whether people see themselves in different ways, online and offline. One of the things I am looking at is how contributors to Wikipedia present themselves to each other through their user pages. Would you consider letting me include your user page in my study?

With your consent, I will read and analyze your user page, and ask you five short questions about it that will take about ten to fifteen minutes to answer. I am looking at about twenty user pages belonging to twenty different people. I will be looking at all user pages together, looking for common threads in the way people introduce themselves to other Wikipedians.

I hope that my research will help answer questions about how people collaborate, work together, and share knowledge. If you are open to participating in this study, please reply to this message, on your User Talk page or on mine. I will provide you with a complete description of my research, which you can use to decide if you want to participate.

Thank-you,

John-Paul Mcvea
University of Alberta
jmcvea@ualberta.ca

Johnpaulmcvea (talk) 20:47, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Replied at the OP's TP. — Kudu ~I/O~ 22:53, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

October 2011 Wikification drive

Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot on behalf of WikiProject Wikify at 16:42, 25 September 2011 (UTC).

Hello KudulO, I was just wondering what the status of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/BOARD International is. You marked it for review on September 21, and there hasn't been any edits made to is since the 22nd. Thanks, Alpha Quadrant talk 02:37, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Have you seen my comment? Traditionally, we try not to recreate articles without approval from the closing administrator. I'll get another admin to deal with it. — Kudu ~I/O~ 17:41, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
I am aware that it is policy to consult the admin who performed an administrative action before anyone undoes the action. However, recreating a article on the same topic with different content does not require admin approval (unless it was salted. According to the AfD on the old article, it was written largely in a advertising tone. Apart for one sentence, the article submission appears to be fairly neutral. Many of the AfC submission we receive were originally created in mainspace and deleted because it didn't comply with one (or more) of our policies. That is one of the reasons AfC exists. If we were to wait for an admin to comment on every submission before we accept it, AfC would have a much larger backlog. Alpha Quadrant talk 19:03, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
the actual article draft looks really similar to the old mainspace article. I was somehow involved in the last draft/article. mabdul 20:00, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
Fair enough, AQ and mabdul. Feel free to do as you think fit. — Kudu ~I/O~ 23:10, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
I have declined the article, as it lack reliable third party sources. Alpha Quadrant talk 02:30, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

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XFD debates

Regarding Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Advanced SystemCare, a deletion discussion you voted in. It is not appropriate to depend on other voters. Please as well remember competence is required. Please remember to follow WP:ATA for your future XFD debates. Thank you. -Porch corpter (talk/contribs) 08:10, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for John's Phone

Orlady (talk) 11:07, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank-you for agreeing to participate in my study

Thank-you for agreeing to participate in my study, entitled “Online Self-presentation among Wikipedians.” I appreciate it.

As I indicated in my last message, here are five short questions about your user page that I would like you to answer. These will help me to understand your motivations for creating a user page such as yours. Please be as brief or as thorough as you like.


5 QUESTIONS

1. Are you a member of social networks such Facebook or MySpace?

Yes, I use Facebook, but in a non-Wikipedia context.

2. In addition to maintaining a user page in Wikipedia, have you also written or edited articles? If so, about how many times?

Most of my work revolves around background work - recent changes patrolling, new page patrolling, articles for creation, sockpuppet investigations, bots, etc. I also do some gnomeish article cleanup work, and I recently created an article by myself, John's Phone.

3. What are the key messages about yourself that you hope to convey with your user page?

What I do on Wikipedia, and the languages I speak.

4. Have your Wikipedia contributions ever received feedback, such as being edited by others or commented on? Have you received a message from another Wikipedia user? If so, do you think your user page positively or negatively affected what other people said and how they said it?

I've been contacted many times - see my talk page archives. I think my user page was useful in giving information on who I am.

5. Do you see your “online self” as being different from your “offline self?” Can you elaborate?


Please indicate your answers to these questions on your talk page, or on mine. Please respond by October 1st so that I have time to properly read your responses. If you like, you can email your answers to me instead (jmcvea@ualberta.ca).

Note: I've started drafting my answers above. Please don't review them yet - I'll remove this message when I'm finished. — Kudu ~I/O~ 21:01, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
Please let me poke you about answers to my questionnaire -- I'd like to begin analyzing my data next week, so if you'd like for your answers to be included, please finish your answers and give me the go ahead to use them in my study. Thanks much. 208.84.104.146 (talk) 20:48, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you again : )

Johnpaulmcvea (talk) 20:37, 23 September 2011 (UTC)


INDICATING CONSENT

By answering these questions, you indicate your agreement with the following statements:

• That you understand that you have been asked to be in a research study.

• That you have read and received a copy of the Information Sheet, attached below (“Additional Information”).

• That you understand the benefits and risks involved in taking part in this research study.

• That you have had an opportunity to ask questions and discuss this study.

• That you understand that you are free to refuse to participate, or to withdraw from the study at any time, without consequence, and that your information will be withdrawn at your request.

• That the issue of confidentiality been explained to you and that you understand who will have access to your information (see “Additional Information”).

• That you agree to participate.


ADDITONAL INFORMATION

Background

• I am asking you to participate in a research project that is part of my MA degree.

• I am asking you because you have created a user page in Wikipedia that other people can use to learn about you.


Purpose

• My research is about how people present themselves online.

• I will look at how people present themselves when presenting themselves to the Wikipedia community.


Study Procedures

• With your consent, I will analyze the language of your user page and gather basic statistics such as the count of words, the frequency of words, the number of sections, and so on.

• I will also read the text of your user page, looking for elements in common with ads posted by other people. I will note whether you include a picture, or links to other content on the internet.

• I ask you to answer my five questions, above. This will take about ten to fifteen minutes to complete. I will ask you to answer the questions within a week, and send your answers to me.

• Throughout my research, I will adhere to the University of Alberta Standards for the Protection of Human Research Participants, which you can view at http://www.uofaweb.ualberta.ca/gfcpolicymanual/policymanualsection66.cfm


Benefits

• There is no direct benefit to you for participating in this research. You may, however, find it interesting to read my perspective on how you present yourself online.

• I hope that the information I get from doing this study will help understand how technology affects the way people come together into a society.

• There is no reward or compensation for participating in this research.


Risk

• There is no direct risk for participating in this research.


Voluntary Participation

• You are under no obligation to participate in this study. Participation is completely voluntary.

• You can opt out of this study at any time before October 10, 2011, with no penalty. You can ask to have me withdraw any data that I have collected about you. Even if you agree to be in the study, you can change your mind and withdraw.

• If you decline to continue or you wish to withdraw from the study, your information will be removed from the study at your request.


Confidentiality

• This research will be used to support a project that is part of my MA degree.

• A summary of my research will be available on the University of Alberta website.

• Your personally identifiable information will be deleted and digitally shredded as soon as I have finished gathering data about you.

• Data will be kept confidential. Only I will have access to the computer file containing the data. It will be password protected. It will not be sent by email or stored online.

• I will always handle my data in compliance with University of Alberta standards.

• If you would like to receive a copy of my final report, please ask.


Further Information

• If you have any further questions regarding this study, please do not hesitate to contact Dr. Stanley Varnhagen, my research advisor for this project. If you have concerns about this study, you may contact the University of Alberta Research Ethics Committee at 780-492-2615. This office has no affiliation with the study investigators.


Thank-you again!