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Redirects[edit]

On 19-Jan, you created a "soft" redirect from Nucleotide triphosphates to Nucleoside triphosphate. You should do a real redirect in cases like this. The instructions for how are at Wikipedia:Redirect. I've fixed this one, but if you need help in the future, let me know. Thanks! -- JLaTondre 17:31, 21 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Lem[edit]

Hey KK - it is always good to login to Wiki before making edits, so I could have left you a msg on your userpage earlier. I find two problems with the following sentence: Lem articulates this recursively through the mouth of one of his characters (scientist Alfred Testa speaking about Aristid Acheropoulos' "The New Cosmogony" in Lem's Perfect Vacuum). 1) it is not clear what 'this' (boled) refers to 2) it is too detailed for WP:LEAD. Lead should be a summary of the important info from the article, not contain new information not mentioned in the main body. Perhaps we could rewrite the lead to make it complaint with WP:MOS?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 18:39, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why not? Sorry that I'm answering only after four years, but I'll go to the page to see what has changed there. Kokot.kokotisko (talk) 22:23, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

3RR[edit]

Please discuss all future changes at Talk:Deepwater_Horizon_oil_spill#Gulf_Gusher_Title - Aalox (Say Hello • My Work) 08:41, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I already do. Please note that I only reverted twice so far, not three times. Kokot.kokotisko (talk) 10:28, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

July 2010[edit]

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Speedy deletion nomination of List of Ruby language learning resources[edit]

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I replied on the talk page. Kokot.kokotisko (talk) 05:48, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've suggested userfying this to give you time to consider what you want to do with it. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:26, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not regard this topic as something private to my person. As I already said, there are other users who believe that [kinds of online guides are widely influential, and should absolutely be listed on the Wikipedia]. Please understand that this is an issue I'm trying to resolve, not something I just made up due to excess of ego and free time. Kokot.kokotisko (talk) 14:21, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback[edit]

Hello, Kokot.kokotisko. You have new messages at Sphilbrick's talk page.
Message added SPhilbrick T 17:24, 23 June 2011 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.[reply]

An attempt to explain my point more clearly: Sorry I didn't make my point clearly when I said "i think it would be equally of value to provide a list of resources for R or SAS.". The specific language wasn't the point. Pick something you do know enough about to follow what is done - C, Excel, basic, Powerpoint, Visio, whatever. All of them presumably have a list of resources somewhere. How does Wikipedia deliver this? Or do they? If it is not done in any case, it might mean that it isn't compatible with the Wikipedia vision. If it is done, it might give you some hints about how it could be done in an acceptable way here. --SPhilbrick T 20:12, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I actually checked other programming languages before I started making my list, and I found that computer languages in general do not have such lists of resources available. So I was sure that creating it would be bending customs, if not necessarily rules. I cannot say that I was oblivious to the possibility that the page I started will raise a controversion. But again, that's the fate of all the new WP pages nowadays. Almost all the non-controversial WP entries have been created by now (except deep technicalities), so creating pages today is a matter of structuring the information. The reasons why I proceeded with the proposed page were not exactly community consensus. You seem to be willing to listen a bit, so I will explain a bit.

Some years ago, I found a web article about comparison programming languages. There are tons of such articles on the web. I was picking through them for more than a week, before I found the one that really rocked (well written and consistent). It was written by a pro Google developer and it basically said, that there were three kinds of computer languages: production, experimental, and 'the languages we are stuck with'. It said that there were only like 4 or 5 production languages: Java, C++/C#, something and Ruby, and it gave reasons for each. Unfortunately I forgot what that 'something' was, and the article, as is the fate of good things, is not online anymore. Then those 'languages we are stuck with' are otherwise languages used internally by certain programs, which we are forced to learn whether we want, or not. Those would be like bash, Lisp (emacs), Tcl/Tk and others. I intentionally omitted Perl and Python, as I am not sure which of the two categories decribed so far they belonged to. Then he went on about experimental languages, of the many he mentioned I can remember only Haskell.

It was basically this guy who talked me into Ruby. As I started to use Ruby for biology calculations, the problems have emerged, mostly with versions of Ruby, versions of Rubygems, version switching and such. The documentation I used to learned from turned out to be obsolete, described methods deprecated, and so on. I went on with Ruby nevertheless, with relative success, compared to Octave, which I used before that. That's how I learned how difficult it was to get valid online info on Ruby problems.

So somehow, that Google developer made me think that Ruby is a member of some "big 4" general purpose computer languages, which are not a waste of time to learn. I know how this might sound, but I believe this single guy more than the whole crowd of other writers. I did some math competitions before and I know how some people simply mentally surpass others by several levels. I think this programmer was the case. Never again I heard anyone talking so clearly and logically on tnis subject. So this might just be my message for you: If you have somebody to teach, make sure they learn something useful when they start taking interest in programming.

I actually do not know precisely to what degree Java, C and that other "production languages" suffer from the immaturity problem, but Ruby definitely is the youngest of the 4, by a wide margin. It only seems to me, that Java, C, and that other language are older and more mature, that they change less nowadays, respect backward compatibility more and whatnot. I hereby admit, I was bluffing. I was talking as if I was sure, but I just 'guessed'. If it was about Excel, I could 100% say that compared to Ruby, it is totally stable. But for Java, C++, I just guessed that it is much easier to learn them from a textbook published 5 years ago and still use the same code 5 years later. Or that online crowd has less to say about C and Java specs than about Ruby. Having admitted I just guessed, allow me to quatify, that I still believe that this guess would be right with more than 80% probability, discounted by how much you decide to trust me... Kokot.kokotisko (talk) 21:33, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Feathercoin copy?[edit]

Hi I noticed you wanted to keep the Feathercoin article. Do you happen to have a copy somewhere? I'm on a mission to rescue coin related WP articles about to be deleted by copying them to coinwiki.info, but I was a bit too late with FTC :/ Guaka (talk) 17:24, 24 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, I'm in the process of asking the copy of the text from Sandstein. Also, I believe that the admin in question grossly overstepped by deleting the article; Feathercoin notability is already not in question. Kokot.kokotisko (talk) 00:41, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]