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Hi I know you've been here while, but I feel it's nice to be welcomed all the same. --Jules (Mrjulesd) 20:02, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

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You recent changes to fossil range of Shark

Hi Kiwi Rex, would you mind augmenting your recent edit of Shark? You just changed the previous longer fossil range and deleted the citation supporting it, while citing your source for the shorter range only in your edit summary. I think the best solution would be a note in which both views are confronted with each other, while citing the sources. (Rough example: "Benton, 2005; Lane, 2010; Nelson, 2016; Andreev et al, 2017 all suggest that [...] while "The Paleontological Database (PBDB), 2015 argues that [...]"), The result in the main text (a shorter fossil range) may stay the same but the reader would be informed that there are dissenting views. What do you think? --ΟΥΤΙΣ (talk) 12:52, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

The PBDB lists acanthodiians among the Selachiimorpha, which every existing source will confirm is incorrect according to the current cladistic consensus, which puts acanthodiians outside of Chondrichthyes, a clade broader than Selachiimorpha. See how all of the oldest taxa - Onchus, Ischnacanthidae, Climatius, Gyracanthus, Machaeracanthus - are acanthodiians. Their incorrect inclusion in Selachiimorpha means the PBDB cannot be used as a source in the article because it contradicts current peer-reviewed literature. I can add the sources regarding the origin of Selachiimorpha in the article. Kiwi Rex (talk) 04:52, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

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