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Battle at Springmartin

You beat me to it! I'd been planning on making an article about this for months but never got round to it. I hav a stack of information saved in a document, "on standby" as it were. Let me know when you're done with the first phase of construction and I'll begin mine as soon as I can (you know... adding the roof, doors, windows, a.s.f).
It's looking good so far. ~Asarlaí 17:47, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

You have info?! Thank God as I just cannot get anything decent on Google Books. BTW, I moved the title to Battle at Springmartin as that's how Cusack & McDonald refer to it. Feel free to start adding!!!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:56, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Principal Line-up parameter for defunct bands

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2nd Straw Poll

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Ref Desk/Hum: Beauty

You are kidding, aren't you? Recognizing this is all a matter of opinion, and that mine is no more significant than yours, he appears to be sullen, unwashed and seriously deficient in the matter of facial hair - a sulky child, in fact. Now, if you want a beautiful man, he will always be my favourite, though time and gravity have had their effect.  :-) Bielle (talk) 03:32, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Gabriel Garko is the hearththrob of Italy and always plays a baddie you just LOVE to hate. In fact he did a mock strip the other night on a popular Italian programme Amici di Maria De Filippi and the females in the audience went wild. Actually this photo I uploaded doesn't do him justice, however it's free so we have to make do with it. I agree however, that Pierce is georgeous as is Antonio Banderas!!! Although nobody has the sex appeal of Keith Richards in the 1969-1979 period.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:11, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

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92.36.146.6‎

Hello Jeanne Boleyn, I am sorry that you had to revert all the edits that 92.36.146.6‎ did. I had informed that he is disruptive, though he just said that I was disruptive by reverting his edits. He even went off of English consorts and was taking away the Princess of Beira information off of articles of women that were soley Princesses of Beira. Well I hope that this disruptive IP was not a big inconvinience to you, I just thought I should say thank you for reverting all his edits, users like you are why wikipedia is a helpful and informative place. Cheers, Cristiano Tomás (talk) 07:00, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

No problem, Christiano. It's annoying when editors like 92.36.146.6 come along just to conduct a personal crusade on a series of articles without even bothering to discuss their proposals on the respective talk pages. This is purely disruptive behaviour. Thank you for your praise.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:06, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Well deserved praise. Good luck on your future editings! Cristiano Tomás (talk) 07:09, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Same to you! Cheers!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:14, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

The "predecessor" and "successor" parameters have never been used in infoboxes in articles about consorts until a user unilaterally and without any discussion or explanation added them in April 2012. That was the undiscussed edit that made the articles about English queens inconsistent with the articles about all the other European queens. Infoboxes in articles about the rest of European queens consort do not have these parameters. Why? Because they are not supposed to. The documentation clearly says that those parameters are "for use in succession whose titles are entirely and directly hereditary". This is not a personal crusade; you should try to assume good faith before proceeding to accuse an editor. You were both so eager to revert my edits that you reinserted a bunch of clearly wrong information, such as claims that three men were queens, that a woman was succeedd by woman who had died 15 years earlier or that the crown of Scotland ceased to exist in 1619. You should also take an effort to explain the reversion of an explained edit. Thanks, 92.36.169.45 (talk) 17:40, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

One again I must ask you to show me WP that specifically says the predecessor and successor parameters cannot be used for royal consorts in infoboxes. An explanation in an edit summary is not consensus and it took me an hour to clean up after you.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 05:57, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

It is how the infobox is supposed to be used according to the documentation I keep linking you to; it is how the infobox has been used ever since it was created; it is how the infobox is used in every relevant article except (since April 2012) those about English queens consort. I have done enough showing, to be honest. I showed you where it is specifically said that those parameters are not meant to be used for consorts in infboxoes and I have demonstrated that they have never been used. It is up to you to show me a consensus that, after many years of usage, the infobox should be used differently and that a special exception should be made for English queens consort. Until then, I will clean up after you. 92.36.144.159 (talk) 11:43, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Do what you want. I've lost interest in the whole issue.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:18, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Dublin and Monaghan

Hi Jeanne. Per this edit, I've been trying to locate the specific report to see the exact wording, but so many other reports etc. 'pop up'. Can you help in finding an online link to the one referred to? Sorry to bother. Best. RashersTierney (talk) 14:17, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

I've just added the link. You weren't bothering me BTW. Cheers!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:25, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks for that, but I can't find any reference to the bombs being 'so well constructed that 100% detonation occurred' etc. at the location specified, (p22 Indices), or anywhere else in the report. In fact at p251 (p314 of PDF doc)

• In addition to the question of whether loyalist paramilitaries had access to sufficient quantities of ammonium nitrate to cause the Dublin explosions, it has been said that the absence of any residue or unexploded portions of the bombs implies a level of skill in mixing ANFO bombs that could only have come from within the ranks of the British military. There are several problems with this proposition:

Not being picky but the report appears inconclusive at several places re. the level of technical expertise of the bomb makers. RashersTierney (talk) 15:16, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

It is on page 22 of the Hidden Hand transcript. An Irish Army bomb disposal expert is saying that the bombs' ingredients all exploded with no remaining residue. Look at the bottom of the report under Hidden Hand, page 22.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:35, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

I used my own words not exact paraphrasing. The article already has a plethora of quotes from the Barron Report and other reports.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:43, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Doh! Much obliged Jeanne. RashersTierney (talk) 17:06, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

No problem, Rashers!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:08, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Catherine of Naples

Hi, Jeanne! A few days ago, I was wondering about Catherine, the elder daughter of Queen Joan I of Naples and Louis, Prince of Taranto. She died aged 17 as heiress presumptive to the thrones of Naples and Provence. Unfortunatly, I haven't been able to find much about her, which surprises me; marrying the 16-year-old daughter and only child of a reigning queen of Naples and countess of Provence must have been the best thing that could have happened to a 14th century European prince! Can you find any information? Surtsicna (talk) 17:22, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

I'll see what I can come up with!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:26, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Same here. I was able to find lots about her namesake and fellow Angevin heiress presumptive though she lived 10 years shorter than Joan I's daughter. If there had been so much fuss about the 7-year-old Catherine of Hungary's marriage, there must be even more about Catherine of Naples somwehere. If only I could find it. Thank you, Jeanne! Surtsicna (talk) 19:03, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

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Cordiali Saluti da Campora San Giovanni e gentile richiesta di rilettura e miglioria per Radio Studio 54 Network, grazie come sempre di vero cuore--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 04:09, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Buongiorno a Lei da Campora San Giovanni,

le scrivo per sapere come sta e per salutarla ed augurarle un eccellente weekend qualora non ci dovessimo sentire prima. Oltre a questo le chiedo sempre e comunque gentilmente una breve rilettura dell'articolo creato qualche giorno fa sulla radio ammiraglia della mia regione natale, e che viene ascoltata quasi in mezzo sud Italia. giusto una decina di minuti per migliorare la morfologia, la grammatica e la sintassi in inglese. le chiedo sempre e comunque gentilmente le chiedo come si mette lo streaming della radio che in questo caso si trova cliccando su on air nel sito della radio sennò esce così, ad ogni modo la ringrazio per tutto quello che ha fatto, fa e farà per me. Un Luminoso Saluto dalla Calabria, con l'augurio che possa venirci a visitare presto--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 08:30, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Ho sistemato un po, ma veramente e buono. Congratulazioni per un bel articolo, Lodewijk. Complimenti.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:05, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Hey Jeanne!

Hey Jeanne! How have you been recently? I see you've found my Anne of Auvergne article, the red link to her name had been bugging me for a while I had to do something about it and on Catherine of Naples, I originally added her name to her mother, Queen Joan's article and I thought there must have been some info on her but I could find very little, not enough for an article. Also, I've been thinking about creating an article for Isabel Stewart, daughter of James II and Mary of Modena, though I know she lived only for a short time looking at her mother's article there's a few details about her life. Also, I've become a BIG Madonna fan in the last year, do you like her? I believe you like the Borderline video :) --David (talk) 17:52, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes I do like some of her 1980s stuff, but I really don't pay much attention to her these days to be perfectly honest. If you can find enough info why not do an article on Isabel?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:57, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Fair enough, I do think her greatest music was in the 80s such as Live to Tell, Open Your Heart, Borderline and Like a Prayer. I want to do it the reason I hesitate is because I think there's a few nasty editors involved with the Stuarts' articles however, if Charles I's daughter Anne (died aged 3) can have one, I don't see why Isabel can't though I probably won't get round to it until Sunday --David (talk) 18:08, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

So I've finished the article on Isabel Stuart there's a wonderful portrait of her painted by Sir Peter Lely but I cannot find it on Commons --David (talk) 09:01, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you Jeanne, I think it's just the later the person lived, the more surviving info there will be on them, I've also finished an article on Elisabeth, Countess of Vermandois --David (talk) 08:32, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

That's a good article as well and you've added some lovely images!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:35, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah the map was a stroke of luck after I typed her name on WikiCommons. Today I intend to create one for her younger sister Eleanor who's life seems just as interesting having four husband in a short space of time and then being forced to abandon her lands and become a nun! --David (talk) 08:40, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Eleanor, Countess of Vermandois finished! --David (talk) 14:00, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Margaret de Clare, Baroness Badlesmere Article Assessment

Thank you for removing the Margaret de Clare, Baroness Badlesmere article from the WikiProject Biography assessment requests list. I assessed that article as B-class earlier, but then forgot to remove it from the assessment reequest list. --TommyBoy (talk) 00:10, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for assessing it as B Class!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 05:39, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

R&N Userbox

Hello, Jeanne boleyn! You can add the new userbox for the Royalty & Nobility taskforce, {{User WikiProject Royalty and Nobility}}, to your userpage! - Presidentman talk · contribs Random Picture of the Day (Talkback) 11:51, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Hello

Just popped in to say hi. So ... hi. See you've been busy. Daicaregos (talk) 13:58, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Oh welcome back, Dai. It's great to see you back with us. Believe me your erudition, writing skills and undertone of delicious nicely-aimed irony was sorely missed. Glad to see you again. Don't leave whatever you do!!!!!!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:54, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Isabella de la Roche

Hello Jeanne! Just thought you'd be interested in knowing I finished this article on Anna Palaiologina Kantakouzene. Also, I FINALLY found out who that mysterious Isabella was who I'd been looking for: Isabella de la Roche, Heiress of Thebes it also turns out you created an article on her sister Alice de la Roche on which you say among Isabella's descendants were Elisabeth Woodville and Mary, Queen of Scots, what a turn out eh? --David (talk) 19:25, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Nice new article, David. Oh so that's the mysterious Isabelle. Yes, I recall reading about her when researching info for Alice.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:30, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi, the very first article I created was Eleanor de' Medici waaaayyy back in 2008, I've now expanded and improved the article, I'm very happy with how it's turned out--David (talk) 11:51, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Very nice article. I often go back and expand earlier articles. BTW, Eleanor was a lot prettier than her sister Marie.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:00, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Haha! well we can at least say she was thinner than Marie --David (talk) 16:53, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Adding pictures to articles

AJM's advice

• Look to see if the subject of your image is already covered. Don't duplicate subject matter already present. Don't delete a picture just to put in your own, unless your picture is demonstrably better for the purpose. The caption and nearby text will help you decide this.
• Search through the text to find the right place for your image. If you wish it to appear adjacent to a particular body of text, then place it above the text, not at the end of it.
• Look to see how the pictures are formatted. If they are all small thumbnails, do not size your picture at 300 px. The pictures in the article may have been carefully selected to follow a certain visual style e.g. every picture may be horizontal, because of restricted space; every picture might be taken from a certain source, so they all match. Make sure your picture looks appropriate in the context of the article.
• Read the captions of existent pictures, to see how yours should fit in.
• Check the formatting, placement, context and caption before you leave the page by using the Show preview function, and again after saving.
• Discuss If your picture seems to fill a real identifiable need in the article, but doesn't fit well, because of formatting or some other constraint, then put it on the talk page and discuss, before adding.
• Be aware that adding a picture may substantially change the layout of the article. Your addition may push another picture out of its relevant section or cause some other formatting problem.
• Edit before adding. Some pictures will look much better, or fit an article more appropriately if they are cropped to show the relevant subject.

In the case of your picture of the facade of Cefalù Cathedral, because it reproduced subject matter that was already there, it was either better or redundant. In this case it was plainly much better than the lead picture. Don't be afraid to be radical in situations like that! Amandajm (talk) 05:38, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for all your tips, Amandajm!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:20, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi! I just tweaked your photo by straightening it a bit. Then I noticed that you had put up several on Commons. They're good. One of the others might actually be better. Anyway, I'll use one of the facades in the article on Romanesque architecture.

I pushed your pic down a bit and put up another really good one that shows the cathedral's location, and hence is relevant to the anecdote about the storm at sea. Take another look!

Amandajm (talk) 04:54, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Looks great. Thanks ever so much.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:09, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion notice for Elizabeth Cheney (disambiguation)

Hello. I wanted to let you know that I have nominated Elizabeth Cheney (disambiguation) for deletion under WP:CSD#G6, this is because it is an unnecessary disambiguation page with only two items of which one is the primary topic (Elizabeth Cheney, the American attorney). I've amended the hatnote at Elizabeth Cheney so others can find the information on the English aristocrat. For more information see WP:MOSDAB or feel free to get in touch. All the best, France3470 (talk) 15:58, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

No problem. Thanks for letting me know.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:47, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Warrenpoint ambush

Hello Jeanne
I’ve left a comment here, but I’m letting you know in case you want to say anything, as I think it was you that added the stuff I’m talking about. Xyl 54 (talk) 20:55, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

PS: In your favourite films (here), I noticed you mentioned Passage to India twice (12 and 44) did you not like it quite as much the second time you saw it? Xyl 54 (talk) 21:13, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Lack of motivation

Hi Jeanne, I happened to nice that you recently posted a thread at Jimbo's talk page about lack of motivation for yourself as a content creator. I am part of a new project focused on editor retention. Can you describe what has changed for you regarding your motivation to edit at Wikipedia? what's used to motivate you? What has changed? Thanks.... Zad68 00:11, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Basically when I had an article deleted, then I had images deleted. Then I see other pages that I have worked on nominated for deletion. I used to nominate my new articles for DYK until I was insulted so quit doing that. Then a few months ago an editor came along and messed up an article: 1989 Jonesborough ambush that I had spent much time and effort on. It took two days to undo his/her mess. I have got two articles (Sibyl de Neufmarché and Miami Showband killings) up to GA class and have created over 300 articles in the four years that I've been an editor at Wikipedia. However the straw which really broke the camel's back for me was when I was recently accused of writing in an "unencyclopedic, tabloid-style". All my efforts were instantly deprecated, downgraded abd basically spat upon. Hence my lack of motivation. Thank you for taking the time to ask. My reasons may sound trivial but they have served to deprive me of a desire to create content.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:34, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Let me just say that I have always enjoyed [1] what you chose to write about and [2] the way in which you wrote. But I agree with you that other's snide comments are a big disincentive here. And the fact is, at Wikipedia as in most entities, while regression to the mean means that bad articles will gradually improve, it also means that articles which have been curated to a good or featured status will gradually deteriorate, and those who guard against such deterioration will be attacked as showing "ownership" or have some other such epithet applied. Let's hope that the spirit eventually moves you to grace us with your contributions once more. - Nunh-huh 06:57, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

WP:TPS here. I agree - although equally I'm aware of serious real problems of WP:OWNERSHIP on some articles, including many of those that have gone through GA and FA processes (not Jeanne's, but others). WP is like trying to shepherd cats - well-meaning editors will inevitably misunderstand, or have aggressive interactions with, other well-meaning editors if their only (or best) means of communication is through talk pages or edit summaries. I try not to take comments to heart - in most cases, for most readers, well-meaning and policy-grounded changes to the wording of WP articles don't matter very much - but there are fundamental and apparently irresolvable problems in improving and developing WP in that the WP:PROJECT model of how to get better articles simply doesn't work, and there is no way of addressing the growing imbalance between improving important articles (necessary but difficult) and creating new articles (less necessary, but much easier to achieve). Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:02, 12 July 2012 (UTC) PS: Just to add that, along with many others, my input to WP has greatly diminished in recent months - but one of the reasons is that, like many others, I simply get bored with hobbies (like WP editing - it is a hobby after all, not a job or a duty) after a few years, and seek new and different directions in life. WP does not have the (relative) excitement of being "new" any more. That won't change, but the long-term issue of who will curate and maintain WP needs to be addressed somehow. Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:11, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you Jeanne, the frustrations you are voicing I am beginning to hear repeated by many others as well. They are not trivial at all; an environment that is driving away content-builders is a problem that Wikipedia should treat as the exact opposite of 'trivial.' If you could wave a magic wand and change one thing about Wikipedia that would eliminate the frustrations you have been feeling, what would that be? (Don't be afraid to offer an "un-Wikipedia-like" idea, this is just a thought experiment.) Thanks... Zad68 19:36, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Nunh-huh and Ghmyrtle same question to you (I hope Jeanne won't mind her talk page being used for this discussion). Zad68 19:38, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Just to second GHM's comment's Jeanne and to add that this is a very difficult medium to communicate through. Sometime even the best of people find it difficult to deliver well communicated comments. Don't get dis-enhartended. --RA (talk) 19:48, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Said it before, but no harm in repeating. You do an exceptional job in an exceptionally difficult editing area. Chin up. RashersTierney (talk) 21:45, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for everybody's support. I feel better already (my holiday at the beach doesn't hurt either LOL). Zad,if I could change anything at Wikipedia with a magic wand it would be to make it harder to delete articles and to make notability requrements less stringent.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:45, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Spoken as a true content creator with no less than 332 articles created, not counting disambigs.  :) Thank you for your input... the retention project is moving forward slowly, but that is how things seem to work. Feel free to peek in on it, sometimes just venting frustration and finding your thoughts echoed can help. Zad68 20:33, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

(I’ve just picked this up on my watchlist): I appreciate I’m probably not the person you want to hear from on this, but I was saddened to see that it was a comment of mine that “broke the camel’s back”.

If I disagreed with what you wrote, or misunderstood your reasons for writing it, there was no intent on my part to demotivate you or depreciate your contributions.

I can certainly echo your feelings (this place gets up my nose at times, too!) and agree with Ghmyrtle about shepherding cats; but I also think WP is a place where people with very different ideas and opinions can find things to agree on.

Anyway, I hope you enjoy your holiday, and that we will find something to agree on in the future...Xyl 54 (talk) 22:43, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Billy Giles

Hi Jeanne, if there's one person that'd know this it's you – have you any idea the full text of Billy Giles's suicide note is available anywhere, the one with "may the next generation be able to live normal lives" and all that? Bloody morbid I know, but I've just been watching Peter Taylor's Loyalists and I'd love to be able to read the whole thing. — JonC^ॐ 22:31, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Not 'the whole thing', but the links here might be of help in further research. RashersTierney (talk) 22:59, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

County of Bigorre

Hello Jeanne, how are you? I wondered if you were aware of the County of Bigorre? It has many red links and has a large number of countesses, tomorrow I am going to make a start on them, there's also a second line coming from Countess Petronilla that is notable, starting with her daughter Mathe who was married to Gaston VII, Viscount of Béarn. I wondered if you would be interested helping me out with them? Thanks --David (talk) 19:59, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Amy Brown

Please see Talk:Amy Brown (royal wife). 82.237.218.242 (talk) 10:12, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Anne of York, Duchess of Exeter

In 2006 there was a debate which revolved around quality or quantity (Wikipedia:100,000 feature-quality articles), and since that time there has been a gradual acceptance that if Wikipedia is to be a trusted source for information then it needs to cite reliable sources for most information that it publishes.

As Wikipedia is a work in progress and the need for citations was not considered so necessary in years gone by, there are many articles which if written today would not meet the requirements considered necessary to survive an AfD.

For these reasons when you come across an old articles such as Anne of York, Duchess of Exeter, to gradually improve them and bring them up to the standards that good articles now require, it helps if all new information added to an article carries inline citations. Then only the older information will need to have citations added to it some time in the future -- not the more recent stuff.

So when you add information to an article as you did here please consider adding an in-line citation to support it.

If (as was true in this case) there is no citation on the sentence that immediately precedes your new text then placing {{citation needed}} after the last old text and before your new text make it clear that your in-line citation only covers the text that you have added.

-- PBS (talk) 12:54, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

I have been working through a list of articles generated by AWB, I have just finished editing Maud de Lacy, Countess of Gloucester, which compared to a lot of the articles that use Cawley is well cited, and looking at the history of the article that is down to you. Early on before you added numbers to your inline citations you cited to the book, if you still have access to the book please could you check the few inline citations to Mitchell that do not carry page numbers and add them. -- PBS (talk) 17:12, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

I have just returned from holiday, I'll get to the articles when I can.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:00, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Please do not edit RS/N archives.

Please don't. I've started a new section for you revisiting the issue at WP:RS/N. Fifelfoo (talk) 01:19, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

I have commented. Now don't ever post on my talk page again. Your attitude offends me.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 05:43, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Your responce to my question

Are you telling me that. Wikipedia get's most of their information off the internet. And dont know what their talking about. Or did I mistaken what you said. Where do they get their information from — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.12.228.62 (talk) 19:43, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

I am finding it hard to comprehend what you are actually asking me. Would you mind not using so many full stops and perhaps I can make some sense out of your comments/questions/whatever.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:54, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Use of web-sites

Hello Jeanne, there are paid for academic sites currently being offered free to WP editors here and here so suggest you put your name down now. They are Highbeam and Questia. I've now got Highbeam this way and I've applied for Questia. Additionally I have access to Credo, Oxford Dictionary of National Biography and a few others so if you were looking for biographical info just let me know and I'll look them up. If they're medieval Brits there's a chance I can get some info for you. Incidently, I can't see much wrong with the site that you do use to get your info on medieval women - it seems a well researched site. I've checked areas on it where I'm familiar with and the material has been spot-on. Let me know if I can help. Regards --Bill Reid | (talk) 18:26, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind offer. I already have HighBeam which is excellent fot writing articles about Northern Ireland. I also am baffled by those editors deprecating the Medieval Lands site as the info is accurate and detailed. Thanks again, Bill.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:02, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi friend

I saw your bit at the Jimmy Wales Talk page... I empathize. Bear in mind that primary sources aren't banned, they are just discouraged — and if push comes to shove at Articles for Deletion you're going to need to muster multiple published sources in a notability defense. The safest thing to do, I've found, is to make sure you have the published sourcing before you start — then use the primary sources to flesh out the story if you need to do that. You probably already know this. As for citing your own site, as long as you're footnoting and its accurate and its not commercial, don't hesitate to use it when need arises to document this or that. But again: it's KEY to make sure you have published sources in hand on a topic before you even start to write. There are encyclopedic dictionaries published everywhere about everything — track down a couple likely candidates and buy them; and if money is that big of a problem (they can be hugely expensive), figure out how to shake some coins loose from Wikimedia Foundation, which has bucks. The subscriptions for journal articles mentioned above would also be a boon; figure out how to get on that list or make friends with someone with access who can send you a pdf or two as needed. Keep up the good work. —Tim Davenport /// Carrite (talk) 18:58, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your words of encouragement.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:03, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Marie de Berry

You possibly regret having touched her, but thanks, Jeanne, for your work on Marie de Berry (which I saw because of the Medlands discussion). I'm hooked: I'm going to see what I can find now. Andrew Dalby 20:19, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome, Andrew!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 20:08, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Amy Brown

Please see Talk:Amy Brown (royal wife). 82.237.218.242 (talk) 10:12, 3 August 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.39.53.205 (talk)

Colin Duffy

I couldn't believe how sparse his page was.Considering how high profile he is its long overdue his page is brought up to Wikipedia standard.DColt (talk) 19:43, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes and you are doing a good job on the article, DColt!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 05:42, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

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I've noticed that you will defend GoodDay on almost anything, even though he can be a nasty character to those you have worked with on articles. I wonder what you get out of it and what your friendly former co-writer thinks of it. I think you know who I mean and I think he would be too polite to say anything negative about you. To you this probably looks like trolling, but I'm sorry, it all leaves a bad taste in the mouth. 212.219.249.5 (talk) 13:44, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

I have never betrayed my friends here and I have never defended GoodDay whenever he has been unpleasant towards my friends. However, when I see pettiness accompanied by Draconian measures to censor an editor from commenting on his own talkpage, I will make a stand. I don't feel this makes me a traitor to my friends here. Why do you attack me whilst hiding behind an IP address? That doesn't exactly sweeten the taste buds either.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:27, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Language of Monarchs of British Isle

Hi, Jeanne. Do you know what were the language proficiency of all the monarchs of the British Isle (Scotland, England, Great Britain, and now UK)?--The Emperor's New Spy (talk) 20:39, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Which time period are you referring to?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 05:26, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Robin King

I went ahead and did it. It's pretty sketchy but I'm hoping you can sprinkle some of your magic over it and improve it. Cheers. Keresaspa (talk) 00:49, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your confidence in my abilities. I added some things and hope to add more as a treasure trove of interesting facts keep emerging. It is an excellent article and you've already done a fine job on it. As I said, I'll keep hunting. His story is definitely a case of fact being stranger than fiction!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:25, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

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Ramble Inn attack

I thought it was about time this article was created.This horrible incident has been totally forgotten.Finding details about it is proving very difficult to say the least. Regarding which unit of the UVF were responsible is hard to say.As far as I know there was no "North Antrim" brigade of the UVF.They had a presence in Ballymena itself albeit a minority one as most of Ballymena and the outer lying North Antrim area is strong UDA territory.Another possible thought is perhaps Antrim town itself, both the UDA and UVF were active there although the UDA would of had a bigger presence.My idea though is likely that the killers were not local and perhaps were acting on faulty intelligence.The pub was Catholic owned yes but the rural area it's in is predominately Protestant and the nearby villages of Kells/Connor and the bigger town of Randalstown would be defined as loyalist.So it would be bizarre to think whatever few Catholics around would go to that bar, any local loyalist would have known Protestants frequented it. Interestingly another Catholic owned bar up the road The Wayside Halt was attacked around the time of the Workers Strike for apparently staying open by the UDA.The owner and a relative were killed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DColt (talk • contribs) 17:43, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

You did a good job on it. Yes, I agree it's proving very difficult to uncover anything about the attack, which as you say has been pretty much forgotten. It was the same with the Chlorane and Bayardo attacks. You could always go to your local library and look it up in their back issues of newspapers. Somehow I get the idea it was not a Robin Jackson Mid-Ulster Brigade operation.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:54, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

DYKs

With Obama & Biden being reelected, they're close accomplishing 3 firsts.

1. If Obama serves out his second term? then Clinton, GW Bush & Obama will become the first 3 consecutive 'two full terms' US Presidents, since Jefferson/Madison/Monroe.
   
2. Already, Gore & Cheney are the first consecutive US Vice Presidents to serve 'two full terms'. If Biden completes his second term? that'll make it 3 consecutive US Vice President to do so.
3. If the above sceneros play out? Clinton/Gore, Bush/Cheney & Obama/Biden will thus be the first 3 consecutive 'two full terms' President/Vice President teams. Note that Clinton/Gore & Bush/Cheney are the first consecutive 'two full terms' President/Vice President teams.
   

GoodDay (talk) 01:55, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Interesting facts. However, I was sorry to see Mitt Romney lose.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:31, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Quinn brothers photo

The site i got the photo from didn't name the order of the boys in the photo so I couldn't name them but I will do my best to find out.DColt (talk) 12:32, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank will be great. Seeing that photo brought tears to my eyes.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:27, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

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Howdy

Just thought I'd say, hello. GoodDay (talk) 02:49, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Oh hello GoodDay. How are things with you? I edit very infrequently here now due to policy issues and unpleasant interactions with other editors.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:44, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Your frustrations are quite similiar to mine :) GoodDay (talk) 03:46, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

I know what you mean. It looks like there'a concerted effort to get rid of all the veteran editors as a form of internal housecleaning. Let's see what we're replaced with!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:53, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Anne Ogilby killing

Hi. Thanks for the grammatical and other corrections, and for improving the article. I rv "Protestant" from Sandy Row as I though that the references to it as a loyalist area indicated that automatically, just to explain. Also, I don't quite think Henrietta Cowan and Christine Smith are quite as notable as Lee Harvey Oswald as you indicated facetiously in one of the edit summaries. I don't mean to irritate. I know you put a lot of work into the article and I was just trying to help in my own way. Yours, Quis separabit? 20:43, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Fair enough QS. The reason I put Protestant in re Sandy Row is for those readers who don't automatically know that loyalist means Protestant. Obviously you and I wouldn't need this clarification, however, there are those who require it. As far as including the middle names of the the killers Cowan and Smith, I see you've got a point. I'll remove them now. Thank you for your message and help! I didn't remove all your improvements, by the way. There was actually no need for Tim Pat Coogan's POV statement as it was unclear what he meant by Christine Smith coming from a "low stratum of society". If he was referring to the area than that would be highly prejudicial and if he meant morally, well that could be also said of Gerry Adams considering the family allegations. Yes, QS you were right to remove that statement. Cheers.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:22, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

I know you didn't remove everything, Jeanne. You are far too good an editor to use such broad strokes. BTW: Coogan, IMO, is an increasingly triumphalistic republican apologist and polemicist, based on his own writings, particularly his piece in the Irish Voice (NYC) on the 90th anniversary of the Easter Rising. Ta. Quis separabit? 23:04, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

I believe that would be throwing the baby out with the bathwater LOL. Sadly I once had to do that when an editor made so many changes (some good, some not so good) that I had to revert his work otherwise it would have taken me hours even days to fix the article. Tim Pat Coogan is pretty much depricated as a historian and is viewed by academia as an IRA apologist so his opinions should really not be considered reliable. Thanks for removing the Coogan statement.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:27, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Obviously, in re Coogan, that is accurate. It would be great to update Coogan's article accordingly, but given strong community interest in The Troubles and my own need to keep a distance, which I genuinely try to do, usually successfully, I can't. If you get the chance, obviously valid reflinks and careful wording will be necessary, but I guarantee that there are those who will always (ostensibly at least) take offense as they increasingly venerate Coogan. Quis separabit? 18:28, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

P.S. -- this is what Coogan wrote on the above-referenced 90th anniversary of the Easter Rising. Talk about irredentism. I got it from this website but I doubt it's there any longer. It was an excerpt from the 4/12/2006-4/18/2006 New York Irish Voice (page 11) entitled "The Lessons of 1916":Quis separabit? 01:59, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Questions like [sic] should 1916 be commemorated? Should there be a military parade? These questions are in reality irritating diversionary tactics utilized by those whose real mental posture is the colonial cringe and whose political philosophy is crypto unionism.

The basic importance of 1916 is that it formed a substantive, motivating role in the securing of independence, one of the three great turning points of Ireland in the 20th century ... [w]ithout the foregoing the Republic today would be on the same handout level as the six counties, and to a lesser degree Scotland and Wales.

In your opinion is this quote worthy of being included in Coogan's article? He really shouldn't be allowed to get away with the illusion that he is in the mainstream or a historian, per se, rather than a republican cheerleader and propagandist. Quis separabit? 01:56, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

No, it should not be included nor should he be described as a historian but rather a writer who possesses the drilled knowledge of a distorted Irish history that is typically acquired in a Christian Brothers-run school.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:11, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Got it! 'nuff said, as they say. I think Coogan attended Belvedere College, but our opinions coincide in all material respects. Special thanks for the advice re the excerpt quote. Now I can move on. Yours, as always. Quis separabit? 21:07, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Nature's perfection

A new photo of Tony

Merry Christmas, everybody.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:51, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Many happy returns Jeanne. RashersTierney (talk) 19:44, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

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Happy New Year, Jeanne. GoodDay (talk) 04:19, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Same to you, GoodDay!!!!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:58, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

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Seeing as my contributions here at Wikipedia aren't worth jackshit, it's obvious what the outcome of this process will be so expecting me to waste even more time in an attempt to please deletionists is not on the cards as far as I'm concerned. Thanks anyway for the notification of the proposed deletion of a C Class article. It's one more reason to spend less time on this sinking project.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:53, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Where are they now?

Gone without explanation: Cameron, did he suffer the fate of Chuck Cunningham and Judy Winslow. GoodDay (talk) 08:47, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Obviously pissed off with a project that treats editors who work for free like shit. I know how he feels.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:39, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Your edits to Anthony McIntyre

Jeanne, having just cleaned Anthony McIntyre out of a whole lot of non-neutral, poorly sourced, and unsourced edits you made to it, I want to remind you of our BLP policy, which governs all articles about living or recently-deceased people. Edits to these articles must use impeccable sourcing and adhere to a neutral point of view. Your edits to this article patently violated those policies, and you will need to stop making such edits immediately. Editors who repeatedly violate our BLP policy are subject to blocks to prevent damage to the encyclopedia. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 15:33, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

I'll refrain from editing said article in future.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:21, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Well Wikipedia has deleted another article of mine

Thanks Wikipedia, and the arrogant administrators who deleted the page despite the keeps. My editing will be even less frequent than before. Their loss not mine as there isn't a queue of editors lined up and willing to write pages on loyalist paramilitaries. Fuck this shit.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:57, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Hello J. I am sorry to read this. I have just returned after a wikibreak brought about by the wiripolice who would not allow me to post a picture that a Flying Tiger gave my mother around 1943, a year or so before he was killed, because I could not identify the photographer and thus the copyrights . . ... blah, blah, blah. My advice for myself is, take a break, wikipedia is a noble project and everyone in the world gets to put in their 2 pennies worth. Returning and discovering your issues don't help, but, please hang in there. Sometimes life sucks, but we already knew this. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 19:05, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Which article, Jeanne? That's bollocks. You do amazing work. — Jon C.^ॐ 19:10, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. It was one of my earlier pages on medieval noblewoman Isabel Bigod. Didn't meet Sandstein's standards of inclusion so he/she deleted it.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:03, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi there Jeanne, I used to be on Wikipedia on another account (retired 3 years ago) and remember talking to you fairly often, and (I remember about the view from your house and your poor bird your cat got to!) I still swing by a few of my old "haunts" on Wikipedia sometimes (No, I don't edit any more) Anyway, sorry for the shitty time you've had on here recently. Having your hard work just erased like that is sad (I saw the AfD...I wasn't impressed with some of the reasoning there from the delete camp)...sorry for that. --Chi Zanos (talk) 19:18, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Some editors are such a--holes

Papal, Baltic, Hockey articles -- GRRRR, if one only had the ability to automatically unilatterally bar certain indiviuals from Wikipedia. Even remove their ability to create socks. GoodDay (talk) 15:51, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Jamie Bryson

Jeanne, I have replied to your comment on my talk page in regards to the Jamie Bryson page. I'm not a regular editor of Wikipedia so in terms of etiquette and inter-person communication I'm a novice, but it'd be great if you could reply to what I wrote. My edits to his page may not have been perfect but I do think the page needs a lot of work done. Michael Heseltin (talk) 16:51, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Robin Jackson

I removed the information from Robin Jackson as it does not qualify for inclusion per WP:EXCEPTIONAL. WP policy is quite clear on this:

Any exceptional claim requires multiple high-quality sources.

WP:PUS also states:

In general, any tabloid newspaper, television show, or site, such as The Sun, The Daily Mirror, The Register, and so on, should not be used when a more respected, mainstream source exists.

A single report from a low-grade British tabloid is the definition of a poor source. Unless there are multiple high-quality sources for this there is no reason for the passage to stand.--Shipyard Special (talk) 23:17, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

'til we meet again. I hope.

Howdy Jeanne. Just wanna say goodbye for now & let ya know, I enjoyed our conversations & happier times. I hope to seeya again, in April/May 2014. GoodDay (talk) 12:28, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Why are you leaving GoodDay? What's happened?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:10, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Now I understand. I have just left a message at ArdCom opposing your ban.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:20, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

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Your photographs are being considered for deletion

Hello. This is to make you aware that I have just listed the photographs on your user page and talk page for deletion. Wikipedia user pages are not personal home pages. For information on what kinds of content are appropriate, see Wikipedia:User pages. — Scott • talk 11:54, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

So you are nominating every bloody photo Ive put up. I cannot even have a user pic?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:47, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Scott is an administrator. Whatever he decides must be right. You surely know that as well as I do. Malleus Fatuorum 18:59, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Yes so I have noticed. Which makes him untouchable and his decisions as unfallible as those issued from the Pope's sacred lips. The admins are turning this place into Stasi. And not content with throwing his big balls around here he's threatening to delte my uploads on Commons.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:02, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Some admins are OK, but any idea why Scott suddenly decided to target you? Your support of GoodDay for instance? Malleus Fatuorum 19:08, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Who knows as I said before this place is becoming more Kafkaesque by the day. Do you know Scott? I have never encountered him in all the five years I've been here.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:09, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Guys, any chance you could refocus this discussion onto the policy-meeting or lack thereof of the FFDs, rather than keeping it on the size of people's genitalia and/or their resemblance to dictatorial groups? I mean, you don't have to like the nominations. You can even think they're unconstructive or in bad faith or whatever. But there's no call to veer directly off into insulting people rather than just dealing with the nominations. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 19:11, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

You're the one that's veering off Fluffernutter, nobody else. Malleus Fatuorum 19:20, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

I know Scott from the Wikipediocracy forum, where he posts under the pseudonym Hex and is just as crass as he is here. Malleus Fatuorum 19:20, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Hex. That sounds scary. I also see we are barred from using the word balls!!!!!!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:29, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

You may be, but I use whichever words I like whenever I like, and there's no power on Earth that could ever stop me. Malleus Fatuorum 19:44, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Jeanne, do yourself a favour and get an account on Flickr or DeviantArt (for my part, I recommend the latter) to keep your pictures on. You get a lot more control over what happens to them and nobody comes along and tells you they have to go because of some silly by-law. Heck, nobody even bats an eyelid if you put up pictures of murals that aren't "illegal graffiti"! Why do you think I left Wikimedia Commons? Keresaspa (talk) 18:17, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

I already have an account with Flickr but DeviantArt sounds just my cup of tea. Thanks for the suggestion. All these rules and policied at Wikipedia practically ensures that creative output from veteran editors like ourselves will dry up to a mere trickle.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:07, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

I think that's the objective. After all, isn't Wikipedia finished? All that's required now is for the administrators to guard their treasure, much like the dusty old knight guarding the Holy Grail. Malleus Fatuorum 14:56, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Well put, Malleus. Pretty soon, the only Wikipedia articles that will receive attention will be cartoon characters. I for one will not be loading anymore photos to Commons and they need never ask for donations. They screwed themselves.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 05:22, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello Jeanne. Long time no see. For the first time in a very very long time I've popped in to see how things are in the world of Wikipedia. You appear to be getting a little bit pissed off with the place going by your above comments. I'm surprised it took you so long. Lol. I see that GD has been blocked and I'm actually quite sad about that but in the long run it might be a good thing for him to get away from this place for a while. He may yet return a new man. Anyway, I just popped on to say hello. :) (Jack forbes) 92.41.251.243 (talk) 12:27, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

What a lovely surprise to hear from you Jack. Glad you are keeping well. Yes I make but few edits here nowadays. All the Draconian rules and backroom politics have begun to get on my nerves making Wikipedia a most inhospitable place. Frankly I thought a year's ban for GoodDay was a tad severe considering his time with the project. Hopefully he'll learn to go with the flow as one cannot swim upcurrent here. Too many circlimg sharks. Anyway. Nice hearing from you again. Take care, Jack.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:56, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Jeanne. I wrote a lengthy answer to a question you asked about the copyright status of photos that someone takes of you (where you hand your camera to a stranger on the street, he takes a photo of you, and hands the camera back to you). Please see my answer here. --B (talk) 03:18, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

John Hendersons

Hi. Got your message. I just noticed however that there are two entries for a politician named John Henderson (both 1917-1994):

• John E. Henderson (1917–1994), American politician
• John M. Henderson (1917–1994), Texas state senator 1913–1919

Yours, Quis separabit? 17:34, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Never mind, I see you're busy. I took care of it. Yours, Quis separabit? 19:52, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Ulster Peoples Voice

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You have the temerity to nominate this article for deletion then add a lot of libelous rubbish about two living people. And the fucking train wreck that is Wikipedia rolls on. --Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:08, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Touched a nerve there I see. Who was it who said "verbal violence is the first response of the true coward"?! On a serious note, since the facts I added are sourced to respectable newspapers, they are not libellous. Secondly, the article as you wrote it was totally POV (e.g, "is not biased" and "Its aims are"- as you know, it is not our role to make a value-judgement on their aims etc, but to report how they and others are saying it). Thirdly, your only so-called source ("The Irish News") was, I suggest, a hoax (AKA, bull), as a search of their site does not bring up anything for either the organisation's title or its founder; even if it did, you failed to link it or even provide an inline citation. Lastly, there is a certain irony which does not escape me that by going to the trouble of referencing and tidying the article, I may have (unfortunately) saved it from deletion. So I will accept your thanks for that, of course. It's Saurday night here- I'm rather busy- but will attend to your POV reverts on Billy Wright's page tomorrow. Nothing personal. Have a goood weekend. Oíche mhaith!!! Basket _Feudalist 17:37, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

No nerves were ruffled or even tingled. But I am mildly curious as to why you describe my reverts on Billy Wright as "POV"? Oh well, they can wait until after you've had your Saturday night bit. Enjoy.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:58, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

It's true: I only get a bit on Saturday nights. "lol" Basket _Feudalist 18:23, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

We can't always get what we want or so a famous man from Dartford said back in 1969.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:42, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Ulster Peoples Voice

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• I've removed this as the article has already been rejected for PROD. AfD is the way to go if you still think it should be deleted. --John (talk) 21:26, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Discretion

The details of Rigby's family situation have been deliberately omitted because they appear to need to d treated with some discretion. Amandajm (talk) 08:15, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Ok, thank you for advising me.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:19, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Why so quiet?

Hey, Jeanne, are you still with us? You've been awfully quiet lately. I'm right across the water, dipping my feet into the Adriatic and reading about the prince killed with acid by a girlfriend he refused to marry (you know, the usual), so I thought I should check how you're doing. Cheers, Surtsicna (talk) 21:45, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	For innumerable edits and contributions over a long period. And always being constructive. Flexdream (talk) 23:09, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, Flexdreams!!!!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:09, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

You're more than welcome Jeanne. :) --Flexdream (talk) 12:47, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Various images at Wikipedia:Files_for_deletion/2013_April_23#Photographs_uploaded_by_User:Jeanne_boleyn

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Various images at Wikipedia:Files_for_deletion/2013_April_23#Photographs_uploaded_by_User:Jeanne_boleyn

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Sorry I missed this Jeanne. So Wikipedia now has Admin(s) with nothing better to do than police editor's pages? Reminds me of when the police came to my house(I own my home) and told me I had been reported for stealing my landlord's firewood. I told them, "You produce the landlord and I'll produce the firewood!". The office gave me an odd look, turned and walked away.... --Kansas Bear (talk) 22:05, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

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Request to take part in a survey

Hi there. I would very much appreciate it if you could spend ~2 minutes and take a short survey - a project trying to understand why the most active Wikipedia contributors (such as yourself) may reduce their activity, or retire. I sent you an email with details, if you did not get it please send me a wikiemail, so that I can send you an email with the survey questions. I would very much appreciate your cooperation, as you are among the most active Wikipedia editors who show a pattern of reduced activity, and thus your response would be extremely valuable. Thanks! --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:35, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

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Operation Banner

Hi Jeanne. I looked at the Operation Banner article after seeing your comments on the talk page. The UDR was grossly misrepresented in this article and I believe far too much has been made of the 1973 "Subversion in the UDR" report to create POV against the UDR. In fact the entire page is full of POV against the British Government and isn't, in my opinion, a good article on the operation. I have deleted the worst of the POV from the "Collusion" section but I don't have time to take this (and 100 other articles like it) under my wing at the moment. If you have then I for one would welcome your input. There is some information on Ulsterisation on the main article for the Ulster Defence Regiment but I would be wary of putting too much info in. Operation Banner was a huge mission and no one article on the wiki can do more than give a brief overview and that's how I would approach it - as an overview, without going into too much depth on any subject but linking out to the vast amounts of info contained elsewhere on Wikipedia. SonofSetanta (talk) 10:54, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Billy Hanna

I know you have an interest in this individual. I was able to establish some information following your request on the UDR talk page and I've posted my findings at Talk:Billy_Hanna#Hanna.27s_military_links. I hope you find it useful. SonofSetanta (talk) 14:22, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

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My Talk Page

Jeanne thanks for your comments on my talk page. It means a lot to me to have someone appreciate what I do even if it is in regards to criminals. I note your comments about citations in the lead - thanks for the guidance. SonofSetanta (talk) 11:18, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Billy Hanna

I'd be interested in your comments regarding the comments I left at Talk:Billy_Hanna#Hanna.27s_military_links. It is an issue you were seeking information on at an earlier time. SonofSetanta (talk) 11:51, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Noted your further comments on the page. I can't answer there because I'm on a topic ban at the moment. I think you need to make that "Self appointed brigadier" on the infobox because the implications of having the rank of brigadier give him a respectability he never had. We have to consider that people who don't know anything about military ranks will be reading this and they could go away with the impression that, "Hey, this guy was a brigadier - that's something special". In the real world a brigadier commands three battalions at least in one formation. The UDR with between 7,000 and 9,000 men and women was commanded by a brigadier. Do we want people who read these articles to get the impression that self appointed brigadiers have the same capabilities as the real deal? I'm from the area where Hanna claimed to a be a brigadier and from memory his gang comprised of no more than 50 people, maybe less. SonofSetanta (talk) 12:31, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough. I would suggest that Gusty Spence elevated him to the rank of brigadier during his spell of freedom in 1972.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:33, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

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Yes, Spence was doing the same. Trying to claim respectability with assumed military rank. I think it's just a question of: "Hey you can be a brigadier" though - like boys playing soldiers. I noted something wrong on Spence's article just now when I glimpsed at it. The sentence "Spence rose to the rank of military police sergeant" is wrong. It should be, "Spence attained the rank of sergeant and was appointed "Provost Sergeant" for his battalion." Or something similar if you don't like my grammar. Again by referring to him as a "military police sergeant" infers something totally different. Each battalion or regiment in the British Army has what is called a "Provost" or "Regimental Police" department. They are on duty during the day only and are responsible for discipline etc and for looking after the regimental prison cells and the prisoners in them. Something like the Campus Police you see in US universities. They're not police and have no police training. If you look at Provost Sergeant it'll probably explain it better than I can. SonofSetanta (talk) 12:47, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Robin Jackson

Just a wee question. Why bother changing the Harvard quotes to the full listing for Potter? Why not just list the book in the bibliography? (which I should have done). SonofSetanta (talk) 12:59, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

I will do that. But I'll have to format it properly and I'm too lazy at the moment.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:01, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Just do a self revert and then a copy and paste of - * Potter, John Furniss. A Testimony to Courage – the Regimental History of the Ulster Defence Regiment 1969 – 1992, Pen & Sword Books Ltd, 2001, ISBN 0-85052-819-4. SonofSetanta (talk) 13:06, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Miami Showband

I note your comments on the Miami Showband regarding my edits. It would ill behoove any civilised person to take issue with the horrors of this particular atrocity and as I was directly affected by it you would be wrong to think I had any issues with the truth. May I suggest you look at what I've actually said and try to tighten the article up. The text I removed was surplus to requirement. It would look good in a book on the subject but Wikipedia isn't a book. Sentimentality certainly doesn't belong here. SonofSetanta (talk) 11:44, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

From Asarlaí's page - No I didn't read the peer reviews. I went entirely by my own judgement. It felt like I was reading a book which is why I removed so much of the material. WP:MOS encourages us to stick to facts and not to delve too deeply into ancillary detail. The article is certainly noteworthy and deserves GA status but I don't think it would attain A Class in its present format. It might be worthwhile putting it forward for A Class however to get comments for improvement. I think it's obvious that third party comment would carry more weight with you and others passionate about the subject than mine do. SonofSetanta (talk) 12:52, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

This isn't a case of removing text because "I don't like it" as you said at Asarlaí's page. It's more to do with applying the education of a graduate along with WP:MOS. When I say "I don't like it" it's because the text doesn't fit with WP:MOS and reads badly. The article looks as if it's being turned into a shrine and that is very much against Wikipedia policy. Also, do you not think it polite that, if you have something to say you say it directly: especially when I am so evidently in contact with you. It's rather rude to make asides like that. Let me know if I'm ever rude to you and I will apologise immediately. SonofSetanta (talk) 15:27, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

As per Asarlaí's page: of course your opinion counts for something. I trust mine does too? Bearing in mind the information I gave you privately I hope you now realise my opinion is more than just POV? SonofSetanta (talk) 09:08, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Ulster Peoples Voice for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Ulster Peoples Voice is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ulster Peoples Voice until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Coat of Arms for the 6 Queens

Hey, I was wondering if people would mind if I put up COA boxes for the queens of Henry VIII -- to describe what they mean [the different quarterings, etc]. Let me know. I did some for lesser known historical figures like Anne Neville, etc. Let me know. -- Lady Meg (talk) 04:35, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Sounds interesting. I cannot speak for the other editors here but I personally like the idea.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 05:58, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Your feedback on "Westgate shopping mall shooting"

please we dont need your inappropriate commentary. As an editor of WP you should know by now that only useful comments that help to introduce the topic and improve the page are needed. "More PC crap seeking to exonerate the terrorists" is best left to your own weblog! (Not to mention youve just given your credentials on neutrality for future upodates)(Lihaas (talk) 15:38, 25 September 2013 (UTC)).

How the hell does my PERSONAL feedback on an article concern you? Now unless you have something of interest to impart, I will kindly ask you to stay off of my talkpage. Your attempt to be condescending to me has failed abysmally.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:09, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Good news:

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— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.103.230.26 (talk) 08:38, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

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File:Jeanne at bridge of sighs.jpg listed for deletion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Jeanne at bridge of sighs.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Calliopejen1 (talk) 06:52, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

I nominated several other similar files, which are immediately below in the files for deletion page. Nothing personal, just going through orphaned files alphabetically. No strong feelings if you think these files are worth keeping. Calliopejen1 (talk) 06:56, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

So we're back to my photos being considered for deletion again. Why not spend your time keeping veteran editors here rather than driving them away by this time-wasting crap?!!!!!!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:52, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Providing they're under the scope of Commons, some could be moved across there. -- Trevj (talk · contribs) 13:39, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Blwyddyn Newydd Dda/Happy New Year

Blwyddyn Newydd Dda/Happy New Year Jeanne. Hope you had a good one. Best wishes for 2014. Daicaregos (talk) 15:10, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Oh thank you, Daicaregos. Same to you Happy 2014!!!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:40, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

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McGurk's Bar bombing / Balmoral Furniture Company bombing

Hello, Can you please provide a rational for your decision to revert the edit I made to the 1971 Balmoral Furniture Company bombing article? As the article itself states, this attack was carried out as an attempted 'retaliation' for the McGurk's Bar bombing a week earlier, so how can it be that this bombing sparked a series of tit-for-tat bombings and shootings? GallaghersGreek (talk) 01:28, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Go ahead and remove it then. Cannot be bothered to argue over a edit.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 11:43, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Wasn't asking for an argument. Your attitude stinks. GallaghersGreek (talk) 16:21, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

That's not very nice.....:)Sarah777 (talk) 20:53, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

If my attitude stinks GG its because Wikipedia has run out of soap.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:58, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

lol

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1SObP93nvLY Tempaccount543 (talk) 23:55, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

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Rose and Crown

Not sure if you're still looking to do an article about the bombing but if you are let me know as I have a picture of a commemorative plaque that was recently put on the side that could be added. If you're off the idea however I'll not upload it as it wouldn't have any other real use on here. Keresaspa (talk) 00:40, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure as I really cannot find much info on the bombing. Wall of silence! Thanks anyway. How have you been doing?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:21, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

It got a few mentions recently because of the anniversary (which was why the plaque went up) but yeah, not a lot to build an article around really. Just thought I'd check in case you had some stuff. Me, I'm OK. Not been on as much recently due to the World Cup though as it's taking most of my time up. Keresaspa (talk) 18:09, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Aetna and You

I saw some raw video on the newscast tonight, and thought of you. Are you still living on the flanks of the mountain? I see you haven't been on WP for about a month or so; I hope you are well. Bielle (talk) 01:05, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

http://www.cbc.ca/player/News/Must%20watch/ID/2478052365/

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Hello Stranger

Well Jenny, I sent you an email a few weeks ago but haven't heard from you. Good to see you're still around. All the best, Bill Billsmith60 (talk)

I haven't opened my e mail. Just got back after 2 months at the beach. I'll take a look now. Thanks.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:32, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Welcome back. I knew you were absent when some disambiguation pages I created went uncorrected. Glad you had a great vacation. Quis separabit? 13:45, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you QS.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:39, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

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What Are You Talking About?

I edited the 1970s and 1980s fashion pages because they were stereotypical and inaccurate. There were barely any sources for the content and most of it is just fads. I only include the major trends, and I search the world over for sources that are actually reliable and make sense. You have no idea how long it takes me to find these sources, and I don't appreciate you throwing insults at me to make you feel better.

Pictures aren't enough, because you could post a picture of someone wearing bell bottoms in 1985 and say "bell bottoms were popular in 1985". You say you wanted to fix the Wikipedia due to it's inaccuracy, well so do I, and that's what I'm actually doing. You can't just ignore these pages for a long time and come back to them and take over like a tyrant. There is no way 1980s fashion changed that fast, just look at wikimedia commons pictures of 1980s fashion.

I rearranged the pages to men and women in the '70s and '80s fashion pages. I found the '90s, '00s, and '10s fashion pages like that, and it makes it much more organized. Going "early 80s" and "mid-late 80s" is way too unorganized. I am going to undo your edit on 1980s fashion because you completely lack any sources, and they are entirely based on stereotypes, which I do not like. I may be a beginner compared to you, but don't belittle me just because I do things you don't agree with, because you were a beginner here too. User:Artistscry13 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 17:25, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

"Which I do not like" says it all. Which sources are you using by the way?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:09, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

SoCal edit-a-thons on October 21 and 25

Upcoming SoCal edit-a-thons: UC Riverside (10/21, 10am-3pm) and Unforgetting L.A. (10/25, 9am-5pm)

Dear fellow Wikipedian, The Southern California Wikipedia community has two more events scheduled for the month of October: a water-related edit-a-thon at UC Riverside, and an Unforgetting L.A. event at the Los Angeles Archives Bazaar in conjunction with L.A. as Subject! As part of Wikipedia Loves Libraries and to celebrate Open Access Week, UC Riverside is participating alongside other Western Waters Digital Library members in an edit-a-thon focusing on water issues. Join students and faculty learning how to edit! This event will take place on Tuesday, October 21 from 10am to 3pm at UCR's Orbach Science Library (map). RSVPs are requested here. The Unforgetting L.A. edit-a-thon and training workshop will take place at the 9th annual Los Angeles Archives Bazaar, and is hosted by online magazine East of Borneo in partnership with L.A. as Subject. Join us on Saturday, October 25 from 9am to 5pm at the USC Doheny Memorial Library (map). Beginners welcome! Please RSVP here if you plan to attend. I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:06, 17 October 2014 (UTC) To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

L.A. event on November 11, and a new Facebook group

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L.A. event on November 11 CANCELED

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L.A. edit-a-thon this Sunday, December 14

L.A. meetup: December 14 edit-a-thon at the California African American Museum

Dear fellow Wikipedian, East of Borneo's "Unforgetting L.A." edit-a-thon series continues this weekend at the California African American Museum! Please join us this Sunday, December 14 from 11am to 4pm. Beginners welcome! You'll learn to create new articles that improve Wikipedia's coverage of African American art in Los Angeles, past and present. Please click here for full event details and to RSVP if you plan to attend. I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:25, 10 December 2014 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

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L.A. event on Tuesday, January 20

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A barnstar for you!

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• Thank you. I confess I haven't been as busy editing Wikipedia lately but appreciate the kindness.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:24, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

LA edit-a-thons on February 14, 17, and 21

Redondo Loves Wikipedia (2/14), Wik-Ed Women (2/17), and Unforgetting LA at the Getty (2/21)!

Dear fellow Wikipedian, The LA Wikipedia community has three events in mid-February -- please consider attending! First, we have a Valentine's Day edit-a-thon appropriately named Redondo Loves Wikipedia, which will take place at the Redondo Beach Public Library from 10am to 1pm on Saturday, February 14. Join library staff, the Redondo Beach Historical Society, and others to help improve Wikipedia's coverage of Redondo Beach! Second, we have a Wik-Ed Women editing session on Tuesday, February 17 from 6pm to 10pm at the Los Angeles Contemporary Archive downtown. This series of informal get-togethers is designed to encourage Los Angeles women-in-the-arts (though all are welcome!) to contribute their expertise to Wikipedia, specifically expanding content about women artists. Third, we have an Unforgetting LA event put on by East of Borneo in collaboration with the Getty Research Institute. Come help improve Wikipedia's coverage of LA design and architecture, and have an awesome free day at the museum -- parking will be validated for edit-a-thon participants! If you'd like to use particular books from GRI's great collection, be sure to email before 2/13 (instructions at event page). And be sure to check out our main meetup page, because we already have three SoCal events scheduled for early March! I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:58, 5 February 2015 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

Wesley Somerville's headstone

I have managed to get an image of his headstone but I have been informed it may not qualify for non free fair use.My rational is that due to the recent death of his brother the headstone in its current form won't exist anymore and the graveyard itself is located within the grounds of a church and seems to be quite private and sealed off.Could we argue this is an historic photograph and would you experience in this sort of dispute?Thanks DColt (talk) 09:33, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Go for it. I'll back you up. Who took the photo?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 10:01, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

It came from a website that keeps records on various cemeteries.DColt (talk) 19:19, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

It looks good in the article.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:14, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you

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		For doing a brilliant job on you know where :). Keresaspa (talk) 01:32, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. Believe me it was a pleasure and I'm happy it had a good ending.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14

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Virginie Amélie Avegno Gautreau

Hi there! In this edit you state that not Virginie Amélie Avegno Gautreau's mother Marie Virginie de Ternant was a descendant of French nobility, as the article stated before your edit, but rather her grandmother Catherine Genois was. Neither statement has a source, and I'm not familiar enough with the subject to know which is correct. But seeing you used "ce" as an edit summary, I was wondering if this change of content indeed was the edit you wanted to make. Mark in wiki (talk) 18:40, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing out my mistake. I've since corrected it.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 10:02, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

LA edit-a-thons on March 18 (tomorrow!) and 28

Wadewitz memorial edit-a-thon (3/18), Redondo Loves Wikipedia (3/28)

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Thank you for notifying me. I've since fixed it.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:45, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Anne Ogilby

Excellent work on that one recently. Just thought I'd explain my last edit so as it didn't seem like a criticism. It's WP:SPS and you just know that if somebody with an axe to grind comes along wanting to impose their version of events the first thing they would do again be make a song and dance about the main contributor linking her own article. It's impeccably sourced as it is and those with an interest will find your article quickly enough but if you include it you're leaving yourself open to the next "expert" who shows up to wreak havoc. Keresaspa (talk) 02:52, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

I came upon loads of info which I added to the page then decided to polish it up a bit, tie up some loose threads. I also thought a bit of social background was needed to provide context for what took place what with the shebeens and gangsterism of the women's UDA. You're right about linking my own article as somebody is likely to come along and start griping and wrecking havoc. Thanks for pointing this out, Keresaspa. I hope you don't think I was too presumptuous in linking my own article.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:57, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

I did it myself once ages ago and got a warning about it so I've been edgy ever since. Still, article looks brill either way. Keresaspa (talk) 18:41, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

I visited Umgall cemetery today and found her grave.I have uploaded the picture of it.Be advised though, I only did so because of the amount of hard work you have put in on the Anne Ogilvy article.Given the previous spat over the Wesley Somerville grave, I swore never to upload images again due to the amount of crap and red tape from certain quartets.However I made an exception for how great the Anne Ogilby page is now thanks to you.You may be surprised to know as per the grave she was 32 when she was killed.DColt (talk) 14:26, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you ever so much. I really appreciate it.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:14, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Sammy Murphy

I've checked my copy of Cusack and McDonald and I'm not sure we can really infer that he was South Belfast Brigadier from their mention of him. Page 31, as you reference, states "The South Belfast UDA commander, Sammy Murphy, drew his men up in Horn Drive and refused to let the Catholics in" but for me that isn't enough. It states commander rather than brigadier and the way it is phrased it could equally mean "the UDA commander who happened to be from South Belfast" as it could "the man who commanded the UDA in South Belfast". The only other references to his rank I can find are in Bruce's Red Hand and Robert Fisk's The Point of No Return, both of which call him a commander and only mention him in relation to Lenadoon (suggesting an on the ground command role at a specific event, something that strikes me as a little beneath a brigadier). Apart from anything the Lenadoon stand-ff was in 72 and McMichael was well established as a big dog by then.

I'll leave it up to you as you can make a case from McDonald & Cusack but it does look a bit shaky to me. I would have mentioned this sooner but I've been offline a while. Keresaspa (talk) 19:25, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Got an idea. In the box at the bottom I'll put it in brackets that Murphy was only a commander. How's that? It appears he wasn't a brigadier in the real UDA sense but rather ran the Sourh Belfast UDA from his Sandy Row base.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:57, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

What do you think about my changes to the McMihael page? I believe the South Belfast UDA was not even a brigade at that time.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:05, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Again apologies for the delay in reply but I haven't had a minute these last few weeks. I imagine it probably wasn't a brigade as the formal structure seemed to solidify only once Tyrie had been in for a while. It's possible (but again, this is just supposition on my part) that at some point in the very early 70s McMichael was heading a "defence association" in Lisburn and Hughes had one based in Sandy Row and the Donegall Road that were separate and only merged with the formation of the South Belfast Brigade (who knows, maybe other bits in the Upper Ormeau and Taughmonagh that were themselves separate). Obviously we know about the WDA and SDA but I've come across (as I'm sure you have too) tantalising mentions of other set-ups that aren't elaborated on. For instance when I was researching Sammy Duddy's article back in the day I remember finding something mentioning him as an early member of a "Westland Defence Association" and to this day I'm not sure if it was just a misnaming of the Woodvale mob by whoever the author of the source was (can't recall where I read it unfortunately) or if the Westland estate off the Cavehill Road had its own independent set-up.

To be honest I've yet to find a source which definitively states when any of the brigades were formally constituted and when McDonald & Cusack are covering the Harding Smith-Herron business they as much as suggest that they were battalions of an untitled Belfast-wide structure along similar lines to the IRA and UVF Belfast Brigades. How Barr's lot up in the North-West fitted in to that structure isn't mentioned, although I suspect they don't even know that, whilst even our article hints at a later date for the SEA brigade. With all this in mind the idea that the South Belfast Brigade might not have existed as a formal structure in 1972 seems highly plausible. My gut feeling is that McMichael was the first leader of a formalised South Belfast Brigade but alas my gut wasn't a WP:RS last time I checked so the compromise edit you've made seems the best bet. Keresaspa (talk) 19:40, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Your analysis is spot on. Going by various sources as well as contemporary reports of the early to mid-70s period I suggest that the South Belfast UDA was not the extensively-controlled brigade it became under McMichael's tenure. It most likely just covered the Sandy Row, Donegall Pass, Village, Shaftesbury Square, Dunmurray and Taughnamonagh areas. All these areas were run by local commanders. Sammy Murphy controlled Sandy Row, William Young (Ann Ogilby's imprisoned boyfriend) ran the Pass, Frankie "Hatchet" Smith (brother of the hideous UDA killer Christine Smith) led the Village. He was shot dead by the IRA after he murdered 15-year-old Catholic boy Peter Watterson under the orders of the South Belfast UDA meaning Murphy. John McMichael and Jackie McDonald seemed to have had command of Lisburn and Taughmonagh respectively. The reason that Sammy Murphy commanded South Belfast was on account that Sandy Row was the power base of the South Belfast UDA back then and as such would have had jurisdiction over the other areas. During the UWC strike he was regarded by the Army as a community bigwig and engaged in talks over the barricades. Robert Fisk mentions him often in his book on the strike which was published in 1975. Once McMichael took over the power base shifted from Sandy Row; you will note that those unruly UDA units were cleaned up in the wake of McMichael's taking over the enrire newly-expanded "brigade". Have you ever heard of a Jean Moore? She ran the women's UDA in the early 70s prior to Hester Dunn.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:38, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Moore's in my sandbox, although I don't think it was me who put her there (I had it open for articles needed for a while). She merits a couple of passing mentions in the main sources but nothing more. Keresaspa (talk) 01:27, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

I agree. There just isn't enough info on her to merit an article. It's not even known whether she's alive or dead!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:31, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Same as her brother Ingram Beckitt - bits here and there but just not enough. Keresaspa (talk) 23:38, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

5th Annual Wiknic

5th Annual Wiknic (Saturday, July 11, 2015, ~9:30am-4pm)

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Wik-Ed Women Session #5

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Dear fellow Wikipedian, I would like to personally invite you to the March edition of the Wik-Ed Women meetup, which will take place on March 15, from 6-10 in the evening. It will occur at Los Angeles Contemporary Archive, 2245 E Washington Blvd, Los Angeles, California 90021 (downtown LA -- map). The building has a pink top with old signage for American Accessories, Inc. dba Princess Accessories (Photos [PDF]). There is on-site parking in the back, which also has an entrance. If you cannot attend in person, you are more than willing to work remotely, as we appreciate all help that you can provide. Finally, here is a link to the Facebook event, in case you want to invite friends, as we are always looking for new editors to help expand coverage of women on Wikipedia! I hope to see you there! Cosmicphantom (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 05:54, 15 March 2016 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

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Greetings, questions have been raised about some of your uploads on Wikipedia:Files_for_discussion/2016_April_25. Can you head over there and comment on them please? Thanks! Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:53, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

• Some more are also on Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2016 April 24.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:57, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

  One more, alas.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:01, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

• Hi @Jeanne boleyn, how would you like us to handle these uploads? A number of them do have copyright issues (passersby who take photos as a favor do technically retain the copyright) but you obviously wanted to share these images and it's important that you be comfortable with the compromise. Being as we generally keep userspace image galleries to a handful or fewer personal photos, are there certain photos that you would prefer to see preserved? And do we have the express permission of those photographers? czar 15:57, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
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February 18 Wikipedia Day event in DTLA

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Dear fellow Wikipedian, Please join us at our Wikipedia Day celebration at the Ace Hotel in downtown Los Angeles on Saturday, February 18, 2017 from 11 am to 5 pm! This event will feature lectures, panel discussions, lightning talks, open space discussions and collaboration, and--most importantly--cake! Please RSVP on the event page if you're thinking of joining us. I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:35, 2 February 2017 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

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Come and join us at the Wiknic

LA Meetup: 6th Wiknic, 7/15 @ Pan Pacific Park

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LA Meetup: September 7 edit-a-thon near DTLA

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Long time no speak!

Hello Jeanne! It's been a while, how are you? I've decided to give Wikipedia another go! I have a History degree under my belt now and this has given me more appreciation for academia (particularly that on Medieval and Early Modern women!). Thought you might be interested to know that I have expanded the article on Isabella of Aragon, Duchess of Milan and created an article on Agnes of Périgord. Hope to hear from you soon! --David (talk) 20:50, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

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Wikipedia Day LA, March 31

Wikipedia Day LA 2018

Please join us from 10:00 am - 5:00 pm on Saturday, March 31st for Wikipedia Day LA 2018 at the Ace Hotel in downtown Los Angeles. There will be speakers, panel discussions, a presentation on Wikidata, flash sessions, and a discussion about the formation of an LA User Group. There could be dramatic readings of LA-related talk pages, and there will be truly excellent cake. Please RSVP on the event page if you're thinking of joining us. We hope to see you there! JSFarman (talk) via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:19, 9 March 2018 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here, and follow us on Twitter . To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

Arts Datathon!

LA County Civic Arts Datathon!

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You've been away since October 2017. Welcome back. GoodDay (talk) 02:02, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

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7th Annual Los Angeles Wiknic

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Invitation to attend a Southern California Regional mini Unconference

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Wikipedia Day LA, February 24, 2019

Wikipedia Day LA 2019 Consider the Source

Please join the LA User Group, Wikimedians of Los Angeles, for an afternoon of panels, presentations and conversations on the subject of sources, and cake (locally sourced), in celebration of Wikipedia's 18th birthday. Sunday, February 24, 1:00 PM-5:00 PM The Ace Hotel (DTLA) 929 S Broadway, Los Angeles, CA 90015 For more details or to sign up, see Wikipedia Day LA, or RSVP via Eventbrite. Everyone is welcome! We hope to see you there. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:00, 18 February 2019 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here, and follow us on Twitter . To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

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Art+Feminism 2019 Los Angeles Events!

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I often find it daunting to approach the Big Subjects on my own—so if you, like me, want a time to sit down with fellow dedicated editors and tackle something important and complex, this is the zoom for you! I, unfortunately, have no way to transmit snacks over zoom; but I trust you to exercise good judgement and discretion in selecting snacks of your own. Hope to see you there—if you're interested, add your name here! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 00:19, 10 January 2022 (UTC) To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list. Fourteen years since you started on Wikipedia! Lady Joan Fitzgerald Dear Jeanne boleyn. Thank you for having created and provided most of the present text of the article Lady Joan Fitzgerald. Thank you also again for having quite recently allowed me to change the citation style of this article. I see you are a venerable wikipedian, extremely experienced wih 88,168 edits, and a special interest in Irish history, whereas I have about a tenth of this experience, am a 2nd-language speaker, and new in Ireland. I hope you agree with at least the general trend of the edits that I have made on "your" article. I think it is you who added Joan's place of birth: Desmond Castle (Kinsale); very nice and useful information. One of my aims is to improve the verifiability of the article. I hoped to come per chance across the place where you found the information about her birth place, but I have not. It might be in one of the sources you cited that I could not access (e.g. Kirwan), or can only be read in Google Books preview or snippet view. However, I find it a bit odd as birthplace of a noble Desmond FitzGerald. I have the impression that her parents lived most of the time at Askeaton Castle, or perhaps at Lismore Castle. Could you please direct me to where to find the needed citation? 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