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ARCHIVE PAGE 14: February 2009

Planorbarius

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Happy New Year

Hi, Invertzoo! I am a little late, but not to late to say thank you for the good New Year wishes. For your personal life I wish you all the same. I enjoyed working together with you, and I hope I could help enlarging the bunch of information in Wikipedia a bit. Best regards, Manfred Heyde, --79.211.250.100 (talk) 12:52, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Aporrhais pespelecani

Lycaon (talk) 22:56, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Ball Lightning

Hi InvertZoo

I saw you edited part of the "Ball Lightning" entry in wikipedia I have rare pictures of this phenomena taken in Sassalbo (MS) ITALY If you want to add these pictures on the Wiki page you can contact me at gianlucafurno@libero.it

Regards Gianluca Furno (mshadow65) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mshadow65 (talk • contribs) 10:42, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Lacy elimia

Only you can check out lacy elimia article. Yours, Bear. --Snek01 (talk) 20:39, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Thank you, I cropped the snail file, but I have no access to other files in my computer so I will do other tasks later. --Snek01 (talk) 22:37, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

shells and fata morgana

Hi Susan, The one that I bought is the spiniest one. I found nautilus on a beach on a very remote island in Vanuatu or Papua New Guinea. I'm not sure how it got there. Maybe locals put it there, but when I found it, it was there by itself.

I saw your interest in Fata Morgana. The article is mostly wrong, and the images show superior mirage and not Fata Morgana. I did an article on my own here, but of course my grammar is a big problem. If you have a time and wish to work with it, please do. The subject is really interesting. I'll check on your response here. Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 18:00, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

If you take a look, I did go through it and tidy up the prose and grammar. I left you three posts on your talk page. Invertzoo (talk) 01:22, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, Susan! May I please ask you to let me know, when you believe Fata Morgana article is ready to replace the old one with a new version?I'll e-mail the guy from Italy.--Mbz1 (talk) 02:59, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

I went through it again this morning, polishing up the prose some more. The grammar seems pretty clear and good now. The article has a great deal more content than the old one, so I would say go ahead and put it up. I would suggest "merging" the two articles as the old one has some nice stuff in its intro. I do think your new article needs more work, but I think it is OK to go up right now, and then other people can have a go at improving it some more. As for me, I am not used to working on articles of this kind. I know so little about this kind of thing that I am not really qualified to work on it except for the kind of prose polishing I have already been doing. Very best wishes to you, Invertzoo (talk) 16:10, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Let's talk the current Fata Morgana (mirage) (as compared with new draft HERE)

Hi Susan,

Thank you so much for helping me with Fata Morgana article.

I'd like to talk about old one, please.

It states:

"Fata Morgana are usually seen in the morning after a cold night which has resulted in the radiation of heat into

space. In this form of mirage, objects on the horizon, such as islands, cliffs, ships or icebergs, appear

elongated and elevated, like "fairy tale castles"".

Well it might be nice, except it is wrong from the beginning to the end. Fata Morgana seen at any time of the day

as well as at night.

The elongated and elevated subjects is not Fata Morgana. As a matter of fact it is not even a mirage.

It calls looming.

Next statement from Introduction:

"The way this mirage is caused is this: in calm weather, when warm air lies over cold dense air near the surface of :the ground, the undisturbed interface between these two air masses can act as a refracting lens, producing an upside-:down image, over which the distant direct image appears to hover."

It is wrong again. The tempeture inversion could appear at any hight above the ground.

Fata Morgana could take many different faces and "upside-down

image, over which the distant direct image appears to hover."

is not a description of Fata Morgana.

Few last paragraphs are very confusing and partly wrong.The author is probably knows something, but...I wish I could talk

to him/her more, but he/she is IP.

Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 16:38, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Okey-Dokey then, since it appears that the intro in the current article is all wrong, the photos are incorrect and the rest of the article is incomprehensible, it seems pretty clear that you should simply substitute your article for that one. As I said, your draft has a few issues still, but get it up there and then it can be improved. At least now the grammar is good. Best to you, Invertzoo (talk) 19:30, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, Susan. I guess I'll wait a litlle bit longer. I need to check few more things. Thank you very much for your help!--Mbz1 (talk) 19:38, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

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nudibranch

Hi Susan, I took the two images yesterday: File:Nudibranch in california tide pools 2.jpg and File:Nudibranch in california tide pools 1.jpg. Nudibranch was really small - around 5 millimeters. Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 20:39, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi Mila, I am by no means a nudibranch expert, but I looked it up, and to me this looks as if it might well be a very small juvenile of the yellow phase of Triopha maculata. There is a (not very good) image of a tiny one at: [1] and pictures of some orange phase ones without spots at [2]. Invertzoo (talk) 21:21, 5 February 2009 (UTC) If you like I will put one of them in the Triopha maculata article. It's good to have an image of a small juvenile. Invertzoo (talk) 01:54, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, Susan! if you beleve the article will benefit from adding the image please do post it.--Mbz1 (talk) 05:58, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Parc naturel régional d'Armorique

Hi Susan. I wrote a new article. It will be great, if you could correct my grammar, spelling formatting and so on, if you have a time tonight or tomorow. If you do not have a time please do tell me, and I ask somebody else. Thank you for your time.--Mbz1 (talk) 02:20, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, Susan. I did add you to my DYK nomination.--Mbz1 (talk) 04:12, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Cymatium parthenopeum

Hi Invertzoo, I think this article is far from being a stub - it's got pictures, taxobox, status, ref, adequate text, etc. Apart from being a bit longer what else would you want for a minor gastropod? My understanding is that a stub wouldn't have any of these. All the best. GrahamBould (talk) 22:28, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes you are right, it's not so very stub-like. I removed the stub tag. Thanks,

Invertzoo (talk) 22:42, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Images of molluscs

Hello my the most lovable wikipedian! I have got an early Valentine present for you: few hundreds (about 340(?)) images of molluscs (I hope that the link works) at http://content.lib.washington.edu/ are all public domain. I will retouche and upload as much as I can. Tell me which ones would you like to upload the first. Tell me which bivalves are needed, because I will focus on gastropods only. --Snek01 (talk) 01:30, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Snek: What a nice present for Valentine's Day, and even more perfect for the 200th anniversary of Darwin's birthday today! Happy Evolution by Natural Selection Day!!! So many great mollusk images! Here are some of my favorites: 16, 25, 31, 38, 49, 66, 69, 74, 93, 100, 2006, 261, 269, 270, 294, 295, 297.

Thanks again, Invertzoo (talk) 21:04, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

image 25 - Is Amphibola avellana a valid species or a synonym for Amphibola crenata? --Snek01 (talk) 00:32, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

It's a synonym. Amphibola is a monotypic genus. There will of course need to be a lot of nomenclatural changes overall in the various illustrations. I can help you with that if you like. Also I will look at the thumbnails again and let you know which bivalve images I think should have a high priority. Best, Invertzoo (talk) 01:30, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Anostoma

Have you ever seen Anostoma? For example [3] [4] This surely will be a first row DYK! May I play with you at your sandbox with Anostoma, please? --Snek01 (talk) 12:00, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Oh wow. Yes, I vaguely remember seeing illustrations of the shell of this snail in the past, but I never really paid any attention. Ha ha, yes, it is pretty amazing. It is like the shells of the aquatic Planorbidae in that the shell is carried upside down, but in the case of the planorbids you can't really tell they are upside down because most are planispiral so that both sides look the same, and no-one understood they were sinistral upside-down shells for a long time, they thought they were dextral shells carried the right way up... whereas here there is no mistaking it! If you like, we can start the new article here: [5],

Best, Invertzoo (talk) 13:34, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Malwiya

There are some words within the article which compromises the neutrality. But dont worry, I've changed it-Binary TSO ^???

Gastropod valentine

Ichthyological valentine

Happy Valentine's day!

Lady crab

Greetings!
Your recent edit to Lady crab included a link to a disambiguation page. The use of these links is discouraged on Wikipedia as they are unhelpful to readers. In the future, please check your links to make sure they point to an article. Thanks! twirligig^{Leave one! ⋄ Check me out!} 20:57, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. While going through the revision history I did notice how much you had done to improve the page. Keep up the good work! I took a look at Menopause and it absolutely does need help. The lead is too long, and there's enough info about perimenopause to split off into a separate article. I'll post about it at WP:MED to grab the attention of some other knowledgeable editors. twirligig^{Leave one! ⋄ Check me out!} 21:25, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

DYK update

Hi Susan, The article you worked on is not passing. I am soooo disappointed. They claim my sources are not reliable. If MacKillop, James (2004). A Dictionary of Celtic Mythology. Oxford University Press. ISBN 0198609671. is not a reliable source I am not sure what is. If it is declined I do not see myself writing another article any time soon, if ever. Thank you for your help on the article. Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 05:29, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi Mila, I have been keeping up with what is happening there, and I think that in reality you still have a chance with the DYK, using the 2nd alternate hook about the "highest point in Brittany". No-one other than Hassocks5489 has weighed in the submission yet, but if someone else does look at it, they may approve it.

If it happens that you do write another article at some point, please go ahead and ask me for input on possible hooks before you submit it or them. I can probably help you avoid getting hung up like this by smoothing the prose and avoiding any difficult hook content. Mentioning the content of a legend in a hook is very tricky, the wording has to be just so, and in general maybe it is easier to stick to purely factual things for a DYK hook. Even if this article does not make DYK, it still is a very interesting and useful article to have on WP, so all is by no means lost. All good wishes to you, Invertzoo (talk) 15:56, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, Susan. Do you know, if there's any posobility possibility to move it to queue number 5 or later and to use the image? Using the image is more than important for me. Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 17:41, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

No you can't move it. They have already worked out which hooks to use on which day and how to format them. It's a question of formatting them all so that they all fit nicely into the available slot on the main page. Don't worry, it's been accepted, that's cool, and people who click on the hook will see all of the images in their full glory. Invertzoo (talk) 17:49, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Clade

Thanks for your work on clade. The article's looking a lot clearer now; well done! Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 22:46, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi Martin, Thanks! I am happy that someone noticed. I am also glad that I did not think to look at the talk page before I started trying to fix it up, otherwise I might have been too intimidated! The reason I tried to clarify the article a bit is because my boss at the AMNH (who is the collections manager for Invertebrate Paleontology) is currently trying to update the fossil gastropod collection database using this paper [6] which mixes Linnaean and modern taxonomy. My boss asked me (I am one of her volunteers) if a clade is the same thing as an "order". I tried to explain it to her, and also asked her if she had looked at the WP article on Clade. She said she had read it, but that it wasn't any help to her. So the next day I took a look to see what the problem was. I wish I knew enough to really fix up that article completely, but what I've done is about all that I know. Best to you, Invertzoo (talk) 00:18, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

DYK problem

Hello! Your submission of Anostoma at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Gary King (talk) 17:49, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Parc naturel régional d'Armorique

On February 17, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Parc naturel régional d'Armorique, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Dravecky (talk) 20:27, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Mistake I made

Hi Susan, I made mistake in the hook of this latest DYK. When I found out about this, it was too late to change. It was on the main page already. But now I believe it should be changed. Please, when you have a time take a look here and tell me what you think. Thank you for your time.--Mbz1 (talk) 18:01, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Well I think it is not really a problem. It was the fault of the source, not your fault. I just now altered the prose so it takes this new information into consideration, as you will see: Parc naturel régional d'Armorique#Mont Saint-Michel de Brasparts and the Chapel of Saint-Michel

Invertzoo (talk) 18:41, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, Susan. You are great and helpful as always! I am so lucky I found you. --Mbz1 (talk) 19:37, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

You are welcome Mila. I like to help out on Wikipedia. Best, Invertzoo (talk) 20:10, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Fresh green leaves, or red triangle slugs

Ah yes, the Red Triangle slug from Australia! It seems that they are variable in background color, often white, or grey, with that amazing red triangle. I knew about this slug already from the site "What's that Bug?" In fact I did a google search to help them identify it the first time they got sent an image of one. There are a couple nice images if you scroll down on this page: [7]. Are we going to do an article on them? Invertzoo (talk) 14:15, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi,

I took the photo of the two Red Triangle Slugs. They were at the forest floor, north of Sydney, Australia. Resting under a large plastic sheet. (This forest has many weeds, and the weeds are put under the plastic to rot away). I put more weeds under the plastic sheet, and noticed the two slugs.

Then I picked them up. And with the other hand, picked up bark from the tree Angophora costata, put it on a flat surface, and watered the slugs and the bark.

After the photos were taken, I put the slugs back under the plastic sheeting, where I found them. This photo was published by the local newspaper, as well as the local government wildlife web page.

Apparently the red triangle is the remainder of a shell, when the ancestors of the slug were snails. The slugs eat algae from the bark of smooth barked trees, such as eucalyptus. They also find algae food from rocks. This slug is seen after rain.

Thank you for noticing the photo and appreciating these interesting creatures.

Peter Woodard

Poyt448 (talk) 08:09, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Dear Invertzoo,

I'm new as an editor to Wikipedia. It's certainly great fun. I've uploaded many photos and written several articles already, such as: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_teak

My background is an autodidact, I have no academic qualifications at all. However, I've written over 2500 poems, many published in Australia and overseas. A couple of years ago, they were taught in a school in Tampa, Florida.

My interests are the flora and fauna of Australia. In particular the rainforests of New South Wales. Also I'm knowledgable on the music and life of Mozart.

Your page is most impressive, and I congratulate you on such achievements.

As I write, a thunderstorm has just dumped heavy rain. And that means for sure that our creamy friend will be sliding out from his hiding place. The Red Triangle is an impressive creature, and I might go outside now, and see if I can find one in the garden.

kind wishes

Peter Woodard

Poyt448 (talk) 02:50, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi again Peter,

Nice to hear from you. I hope you settle in well at Wikipedia. I have only been editing here for a year and a half, so there are plenty of things I don't know... but if there is anything I can help you with I will be glad to, so just ask me any time. I see you have 4 websites! Like you I am self-taught and don't have any degrees. I have been interested in mollusks since I was a toddler, so over the years I have learned a lot about them. You are lucky to have such interesting creatures around as the triangle slugs! Invertzoo (talk) 22:17, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks so much for writing the article on the Red Triangle Slugs and having it featured on Wikipedia's front page. I'm totally chuffed and full of gratitude!

After rain, various invertebrates appear in the garden. Such as a worm like creatures. It is not a leech. But long, thin, black and slimy with a yellow stripe. In other parts of Australia I've seen them coloured fluorescent yellow or fluoresecent pink. They appear un-segmented, and I can only guess they are a mollusc or a type of worm.

I'm currently writing more articles on my favourite subject in nature; the rainforest trees of New South Wales. There's nearly 400 of them, and if I have a photo, then I'll write up.

Thanks again, and congratulations for your superb contribution.

Peter Woodard xxx Poyt448 (talk) 06:54, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi,

The worm like creature in the garden is probably Caenoplana coerulea, as seen on this website: http://davidavid.blogspot.com/2006/10/more-of-blues.html

Here's another site with the Blue Planarian: http://course.wilkes.edu/REOgren/discuss/msgReader$22?d=6&m=8&mode=topic&y=2005

The yellow creature I mentioned could be this photo: (I've also seen them fluorescent pink) on Mount Canobolas: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v411/huntervalley/Invertebrates/WormAlbany1.jpg

These photos are good quality, and unless you have license issues, I doubt if I could photograph them as well. However, will do so if required.

regards Peter Poyt448 (talk) 01:18, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi,

I've added more photos of the Red Triangle slug. However, these are not my own pictures. But a friend said it was Ok to use her photos. Please assist with the lisencing issues. I couldn't quite understand what Wiki said in this regard.

Peter Woodard Poyt448 (talk) 09:48, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

A question about Sour Cherry

Hi,

I need assistance. I've just written an article on a tree called the Sour Cherry. (Syzygium corynanthum). However it has the same common name as another article (Prunus cerasus). If one wishes to look up "Sour Cherry", the page directs only to Prunus cerasus. Currently I've put a small reference on the page of Prunus cerasus. What is the best way to point the reader to the page on Syzygium corynanthum if the reader puts "Sour Cherry" into the search facility?

Incidentally, the Red Triangle Slug would certainly glide over the Sour Cherry tree in the rainforest.

thanks Peter Poyt448 (talk) 01:39, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

OK. Let me have a go at sorting that out today (or tomorrow). We could do a Disambiguation page giving the options, but as there are currently only two options, perhaps the Prunus Sour Cherry simply needs a note at the top directing people on to the other sour cherry article. I should be able to do that OK. Invertzoo (talk) 14:22, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, I just now did a note at the top of Sour cherry. Is that OK? You can change the wording of it if you like. Invertzoo (talk) 14:45, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi,

Thanks for the link on the Sour Cherry page. As per your request, I've uploaded a photo of a shell of a snail,

Fortunately I have the opportunity to be in wild places, and I see interesting things. Once at Mount Royal in NSW I saw a large snail shell at 1100 metres above sea level, in the mist forest.

This is World Heritage Wilderness, no tracks and no signs. Biologists suggest these Gondwana places are relatively unchanged for millions of years, and there a many relict species. Too bad I didn't have an expert like you nearby to assist with identification.

Many thanks for your interest.

PETE xxx

Poyt448 (talk) 05:08, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi again, Can you tell me where your snail photo is? I am not sure how to find it. You could maybe put a copy in the Border Ranges National Park article for the time being at least. I would not have been able to identify the land snail shell on the spot, because I am not too good at exotic land snails, but I am learning more as I go along. You are very fortunate to be able to be in wild nature so often. Invertzoo (talk) 13:24, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

I put the photo of the snail shell on my foot at the Caryodidae page. regards Peter Woodard Poyt448 (talk) 09:37, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Land snail shells in New South Wales, leeches etc

I forgot to mention that I regularly see the shells of large snails in my trips to the rainforests of New South Wales. I believe some are Pedinogyra rotabilis. Unfortunately I've not seen any live creatures, but have photographed a dead shell. (It's not much of a photo). If ever I see a live one, I'll take its picture. Some of these snails are at over 1000 metres above sea level, and some are close to the coast, such as Thersites mitchellae.

Yesterday when looking for the Red Triangle slug, a leech crawled on me. (Gnatbobdellida libbata). Not a mollusk of course, but somewhat similar. I removed the creature without harm to me or it. I might put a photo of it on a relevant Wikipedia leech page.

thanks again Peter Poyt448 (talk) 02:09, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi, Those of us who are part of WikiProject Gastropods [8], well we are certainly happy to accept photos of empty shells in order to represent a species or genus or family of snails that currently have no images at all. Those images will definitely be good to have until we are lucky enough to get a picture of a live specimen. I imagine we currently have hardly any images of Australian land slug or land snail species at all, so if you have photos of dead shells that are even half reasonable, please go ahead and upload them. Thanks so much! Images of leeches and other invertebrates will no doubt be very valuable to Wikipedia also, although I have only written a few articles on other invertebrate groups. Very best wishes to you Invertzoo (talk) 14:22, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Notes on Triangle slug article, a draft at: [9]

What heath is that? Open habitat or forest habitat? --Snek01 (talk) 19:04, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Heath (habitat) means a relatively open habitat full of small bushes, not trees. Take a look at the article on heath. Does that answer your question? Invertzoo (talk) 19:37, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Hmm...

Nice massage on Theobald. :) prashanthns (talk) 16:41, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Nice to meet you Prahanthns! Invertzoo (talk) 17:06, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Snail from India

Have you tried to determine it or have you tried to ask an author of the photo for determination? --Snek01 (talk) 19:18, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Just now I asked the photographer if he knows anything about what it is. No, I have not yet tried to identify it, but I can try. It might not be too easy though, as the shell is not really very distinctive, only the animal. Unfortunately as yet I know very little about tropical land snails... Invertzoo (talk) 00:22, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

I looked through Abbott's "Compendium of landshells" (mostly shell pictures only) and I'm guessing it might be family Helicarionidae, something like genus Macrochlamys maybe, which does occur in India. The body looks a bit like a Limax don't you think, with that fancy foot fringe... Invertzoo (talk) 01:05, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

OK, apparently Macrochlamys is now placed in the Ariophantidae. Invertzoo (talk) 01:08, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Pteropod

Ah! Nice! There is a lovely video of this rather large pteropod swimming here: [10]

Forming the shell

There are the same sections about the forming the shell in articles Mantle (mollusc) and Mollusc shell. I do not know yet what would be the best way for splitting or merging for this thing. I do not know much about this theme now but the plan for this task would be fine. --Snek01 (talk) 19:43, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Anostoma & Ringicella

On February 26, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Anostoma and Ringicella, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Congratulation and thank you for cooperation! --Snek01 (talk) 21:45, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Beautiful snail ID

*Indrella ampulla*, Family: Ariophantidae

Have got an id for the species. Thanks for prompting me to look it up. Shyamal (talk) 01:39, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks so much for the very helpful ID. Now we can write an article for it. Can I ask you what resource you used in order to be able to identify it? Was it a book or a website or what? Many thanks, Invertzoo (talk) 01:49, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

NOTES: Endemic to the Western Ghats. "Indrella ampulla (Benson) is a monotypic Ariophantid genus endemic to wet forests in the Western Ghats, India. The shell is delicate being mostly protinaceous with a relatively low calcium carbonate content; the body exhibits dymantic colour polymorphism.." [11] Invertzoo (talk) 01:55, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

This was one was identified by N. A. Aravind via email. He is mentioned on the NHM link that you posted above. The key starting point for identification in this region is the Fauna of British India and I just noticed that a scan of Land and freshwater mollusca of India (1882) by Henry Haversham Godwin-Austen is available here. Shyamal (talk) 02:03, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you so much for a very fast and very helpful reply! Invertzoo (talk) 02:08, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

This one probably has the taxonomic description Mollusca Shyamal (talk) 02:12, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your note. I have already been enthused enough to look up the description which I am adding here for you to distill. Shyamal (talk) 02:51, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Genus Indrella Godwin-Austen, Proc. Mal. Soc. iv, 1901, p. 187, pl. 18.

Shell Vitrina-like, imperforate, with few whorls and a very large aperture-Animal similar to that of Ariophanta, but larger, not fully retractile within the shell. Mucous pore of moderate size; no distinct overhanging lobe or a small one. Sole undivided, very smooth. No shell-lobes; dorsal lobes well developed, the left divided into an anterior and a posterior part by a deep sinus. Kalc-sac small, receiving the vas deferens; retractor muscle attached to long straight caecum given off at the junction of the flagellum of the male organ. Spermatheca oval, very short, on a short stem. Amatorial organ (dart-sac) stout and long. Jaw straight, with a slight convexity on cutting-edge, no median projection. Radula broad, with about 100 rows of teeth: 145 .17 .1 .17 .145; median tooth and the 17 on each side (admedians) long, broadly pointed, straight-sided, lateral cusps indistinct; laterals curved, aculeate, outer laterals bicuspid.
Indrella ampulla Benson (Helix) AMNH (2) v, 1850, p. 213; Pfr. (Helix) Mon. Hel. iii, 1853, p. 27; id.t.c. iv, p. 9, id.t.c. vii, 1876, p. 57; Blf. J.A.S.B. xxxiv, 1866, p. 39; H. & T. (Helix) C.I. pl. 25, fig. 4; Nev. (Nanina) Hand-l. i, 1878, p. 54; Godwin-Austen, Proc. Mal. Soc. iv, 1901, p. 187, pl. 18 [animal and anatomy]
Shell imperforate, obliquely ovate, globose, very thin, half the thickness consisting of epidermis, marked throughout with plicate line of growth, crossed by faint impressed spiral lines, and on the last whorl by shallow irregular furrows, brownish olive, sometimes darker brown; spire small, convex, obtuse; whorls 3 and a half, rapidly increasing, the last much larger, rounded at the periphery and beneath; aperture very large, oblique, roundly oval, the same colour within as without, but smooth and glossy ; peristome thin, membranaceous, columellar margin much curved inwards. Major diam. 50 (a large shell 03), min. 38, axis 30 mm.; aperture (obliquely) 32 broad, 30 high. Habitat:. On the western slope's of the Wynaad, Nilgiri, and Anaimalai hills at moderate elevations (3000 ft). Tho animal, as represented in a drawing for which I am indebted to Sir Walter Elliot, is greenish yellow, but according to Col. Beddome it is black. It probably varies. Beddome found it feeding on large fungi.

— Blanford WT and HH Godwin-Austen (1908) Fauna of British India. Mollusca. Testacellidae and Zonitidae. pages 48-50

This one http://flickr.com/photos/matthieu-aubry/264908680/ (non-free photo) is also Indrella ampulla? What a great polymorphism! --Snek01 (talk) 11:52, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

I should mention that this photograph appears more natural per my recollection and the location was not more than 100km as the crow flies from where mine was taken although that was under dense forest cover with a flash. But assuming the green colour mentioned in the description is correct, it indeed seems to be highly polymorphic. Shyamal (talk) 12:46, 27 February 2009 (UTC)