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IE - animated![edit]

The last picture needs improvement, but otherwise, this is cute isn't it? Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 20:55, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Amazing work, it looks really good! is it based on Allentoft et al? Ilber8000 (talk) 21:29, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Mostly Mallory's InSearch of the Indo-Europeans and Anthony's The Horse, The Wheel and Language. I didn't know/hadn't realized, untill this week, that the western IE-languages came to western Europe through the Danube Valley, and spread, together with Baltic-Slavic, through the Corded Ware culture. It was amazing to study this map of the Balkans, with mountains and valleys, and to see how the Danube (Donau) provides a convenient avenue to Germany. I also hadn't realized that the Andronovo culture untill ca. 800 BCE, and that then the Iranian languages spread over a vast territory. Wikipedia is a wonderfull excuse to study and learn. Western gymnasia (Dutch: Gymnasium is pre-academic education, with Latin and Greek) should be turned into Indo-European schools! Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 05:17, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A lot of studying then! is BMAC culture considered Indo-European? I thought they were non-I.E based on their material culture. Ilber8000 (talk) 01:57, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The idea is that IE's took over/integrated with the BMAC in its late phase. Note that the BMAC had relations with other contemporary cultures, like the IVC. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 06:06, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Last image Vedic period (Indo-Aryans) geography looks very inaccurate, previous one was better (yellow highlight). Vedic periods' northern extent was Gandahara to Vidarbha in the south (around vindya ranges), it's eastern extent was up to Anga (Northern Bengal) and Western extent up to Banas & Sindhu (Gujarat and Sindh). In modern terms, it included "Hindi belt", Punjab, Gujarat, Sindh, Northern Bengal and Kashmir. There were no Scythian in South Asia until Middle Kingdoms of India (post-Mauryan empire), they were still in Central Asia then. Ilber8000 (talk) 18:16, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"Very" inaccurate? I just this map for the Scythians; it's the situation in ca. 100 BCE. Main point for the last map is to show how far the Iranian languages extended, and how Europe was "divided" in various languages after the Corded Ware. Much is missing; I'd love to make a really accurate animation, but it would tahe something like the combination of an animation studio and academic historians. I'm just one guy with an interest in religion and history... Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 05:43, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

But alas, I've just extended the Vedic territory. Still not perfect, but more. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 06:03, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I understand but we can't compare Vedic period extension to 100 BCE Scythian extension. Thank you for your efforts, it's a really good map. :) Ilber8000 (talk) 16:46, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Possible Sock Puppet on the Vedda page?[edit]

An IP is currently active on the Vedda page making somewhat problematic and suspicious edits, who seems similar to a previously blocked sock puppet (who edited on South Asian topics such as Peopling of India, Andamanese, and I believe Negrito), whom I believe you detected previously. If you coud possibly look into this it would be much appreciated. I may also contact User:Doug Weller regarding this. Here is their recent history: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/81.10.217.91 (Note the - inaccurate - claim, here [[1]], that the mention of 73% AASI ancestry and 27% Iranian-like ancestry in the ASI population is unsourced or "WP:OR", seemingly the same claim made by a blocked sock on the Peopling of India and Genetics and archaeogenetics of South Asia pages). Thank you. Skllagyook (talk) 18:26, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Skllagyook: I have alerted mods about it. Btw, there is no consensus on adding genomic studies to South Asian ethnic group pages outside Indo-Aryan migration and Dravidian peoples. Ilber8000 (talk) 00:54, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

They seem to be at it again (at Negrito). I have messaged User:Doug Weller regarding it. See ::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller#IP_and_likely_sock_puppet_recently_added_extensive_original_research_to_Negrito_page.

and (the page history): [[2]] Skllagyook (talk) 14:54, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Added pending changes to Negrito and Andamanese. I can't add it to every article of course. The use of proxies is making it hard to find WorldcreaterFighter socks, as is the fact that Berean Hunter isn't around. Doug Weller talk 16:57, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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