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The Signpost: 28 January 2015[edit]

Citiogenesis?[edit]

Hi! I'm currently working on referencing unreferenced ant articles and found this paragraph you wrote in 2007 (the section has actually never been edited):

"Unlike other genera in Dolichoderinae, Iridomyrmex ants have the front margin of the clypeus above the mandibles highly modified with convex areas towards the sides and a central projection, which varies from strongly to weakly developed. The compound eyes are relatively high on the head and away from the mandibles."

From Heterick, B. E.; Shattuck, S. (2011). "Revision of the ant genus Iridomyrmex (Hymenoptera: Formicidae)". Zootaxa. 2845: 1–174. (p. 18):

"The anterior margin of the clypeus above the mandibles is usually highly modified with convex areas towards the sides and a central projection ... varies from strongly to weakly developed ... The compound eyes are placed relatively high on the head and away from the mandibles (Shattuck, 1992b, fig. 95).

Shattuck, S.O. (1992b) Generic revision of the ant subfamily Dolichoderinae (Hymenoptera: Formicidae). Sociobiology, 21, 1–181.

My gut reaction was to remove it due to copyvio, but after looking up the Shattuck (1992) article, I'm more inclined to believe that Heterick & Shattuck (2011) used your text (Wikipedia is a free resouce after all) but failed to attribute it (...which is still required). I do not expect you to remember which sources you used when you created the Iridomyrmex article 8 years ago, but it is possible that both you and Heterick & Shattuck (2011) used some public domain text. In any case, I'd like to clear this up and either rewrite the section or leave a message on the article's talk page to future editors. jonkerz ♠talk 21:44, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Jonkerz:: It was the CSIRO site, now archived at [1]. Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 02:47, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

LA edit-a-thons on February 14, 17, and 21[edit]

Redondo Loves Wikipedia (2/14), Wik-Ed Women (2/17), and Unforgetting LA at the Getty (2/21)!

Dear fellow Wikipedian,

The LA Wikipedia community has three events in mid-February -- please consider attending!

First, we have a Valentine's Day edit-a-thon appropriately named Redondo Loves Wikipedia, which will take place at the Redondo Beach Public Library from 10am to 1pm on Saturday, February 14. Join library staff, the Redondo Beach Historical Society, and others to help improve Wikipedia's coverage of Redondo Beach!

Second, we have a Wik-Ed Women editing session on Tuesday, February 17 from 6pm to 10pm at the Los Angeles Contemporary Archive downtown. This series of informal get-togethers is designed to encourage Los Angeles women-in-the-arts (though all are welcome!) to contribute their expertise to Wikipedia, specifically expanding content about women artists.

Third, we have an Unforgetting LA event put on by East of Borneo in collaboration with the Getty Research Institute. Come help improve Wikipedia's coverage of LA design and architecture, and have an awesome free day at the museum -- parking will be validated for edit-a-thon participants! If you'd like to use particular books from GRI's great collection, be sure to email before 2/13 (instructions at event page).

And be sure to check out our main meetup page, because we already have three SoCal events scheduled for early March!

I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:58, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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February 19 also Vietnamese New Year on this year, Losar is a public holiday in Bhutan.--113.168.111.164 (talk) 08:54, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, Tết is ineligible to appear due to needing more references. —howcheng {chat} 09:24, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 18 February 2015[edit]

Complaint about one user[edit]

Hi Howcheng! The user User:Samaneh-davoudi-jende had written in my talk page the massage very very rude. In addition, he did this with the user name that is very similar to my own user name, but with a different word that is very rude word (jende). I checked his contribution. He made this account just to misbehave me. Please help me! Is it possible that remove this user? Is it possible that remove the information of the massage in history of my talk page. This user is too rude and he was irreverence to me. Can you check the IP of the user. Thanks!Samaneh-davoudi (talk) 06:45, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Samaneh-davoudi: I've indef-blocked this user. However, I cannot check the user's IP, nor can I remove the edit from your history. You'll need someone with CheckUser access for the first and Oversight access for the second. —howcheng {chat} 06:53, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much Howcheng for blocking him and for your guidance.Best regards! Samaneh-davoudi (talk) 07:42, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 25 February 2015[edit]

On This Day[edit]

Hi. Hope all is well in LA. I've been missing the Mediterranean climate ever since I left. I notice that you've been active at OTD so I thought I'd ask you a question. How does a centennial of a birth or death get in the selected anniversaries when OTD seems to require each line is pulled from the "events" section of the corresponding day rather than "births" or "deaths" sections? I have two articles I'd like to get into OTD but I'm not sure the rules allow it. Chris Troutman (talk) 01:59, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Chris, good to hear from you. Birth/death centennials are usually listed with the holidays/observances, like "200th anniversary of the death of Joe Schmoe". Ideally the person listed should be have great significance/notability in their country or field of work (I have been more selective about who gets listed ever since a slew of complaints came in when Marshall McLuhan was included). Who did you have in mind? —howcheng {chat} 06:09, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
John Alexander Moore and Edward Tompkins, neither of whom are as important as McLuhan. Both are approaching their respective centennials of birth. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:02, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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LA edit-a-thons on March 18 (tomorrow!) and 28[edit]

Wadewitz memorial edit-a-thon (3/18), Redondo Loves Wikipedia (3/28)

Dear fellow Wikipedian,

The LA Wikipedia community has two events in this second half of March -- please consider attending!

First, there is a memorial edit-a-thon in honor of the prolific LA Wikipedian Adrianne Wadewitz, which is being held downtown on March 18 (tomorrow!) from noon to 8pm as a part of the American Society for Eighteenth-Century Studies' annual conference. Please drop by to contribute your own work or teach other users how to write for Wikipedia.

Second, there will be an event at the Redondo Beach Public Library (following up on last month's session), in collaboration with the Redondo Beach Historical Society. Please join us from 10am to noon on Saturday, March 28 at the main branch of the Redondo Beach Public Library!

I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:40, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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March 23[edit]

Hi Howcheng,

I've added the following to the staging area for March 23:

As was discussed last year, I was a little late. Thanks!--Peaceworld 11:51, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I mean not the staging area, but you know what I mean.--Peaceworld 11:55, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 18 March 2015[edit]

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The Signpost – Volume 11, Issue 12 – 25 March 2015[edit]

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For April 1: Giuditta Pasta (19th century; female; 150 years)[edit]

Hi, I added a note a few days ago to the Talk page for the April 1 anniversaries, about the above subject. Can you include her, please?. Ta Scarabocchio (talk) 07:54, 30 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but per the rules, we only do births and deaths on multiples of 100 years, so she wouldn't be eligible yet. —howcheng {chat} 11:08, 30 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost, 1 April 2015[edit]

ANI notification[edit]

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:21, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Transphobia[edit]

Do you acknowledge that what you did was wrong?—chbarts (talk) 09:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I acknowledge that the way I wrote the blurb was offensive to you. I have since rewritten it. —howcheng {chat} 15:35, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
So you might write transphobic or otherwise blurbs in the future, since you do not acknowledge wrongdoing in this case. I suppose we may have to go through this again.—chbarts (talk) 17:17, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
And your re-write is, if anything, worse. It is more dishonest and more insulting.—chbarts (talk) 17:18, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You forget the purpose of the April Fool's Main Page. It's actually more accurate: the girl was announced to be a boy by her grandmother, thus one could say her sex was changed. This aligns better with the guideline of using ambiguous language to present true facts. —howcheng {chat} 17:44, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Furthermore, I don't appreciate being asked a loaded question. You have yet to establish to my satisfaction that the blurb is itself transphobic in any way. —howcheng {chat} 18:04, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You refuse to admit that equating sexual reassignment to political intrigue is transphobic? So you're saying we'll do this again, same time, next year?—chbarts (talk) 23:03, 4 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
And the purpose of the Main Page, April Fool or not, is never to make people feel harassed or unwelcome. You acknowledge that it made someone feel harassed and unwelcome, but you intend to keep doing the same thing.—chbarts (talk) 23:05, 4 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Jan van Riebeeck[edit]

Hi Howcheng. I replaced the image for today's OTD, since it depicted the wrong person! I never knew this, but the image of Jan van Riebeeck from the currency was apparently not really him. I uploaded a cropped version of the accepted portrait, but I've never been involved with main page images, so could you please take a look when you get a chance to make sure that it's all right? I'm not sure how to protect it on Commons, where I'm not an administrator. Normally, I would ask for help before making such a highly visible change, but in this case it seemed important to make the change immediately.-RHM22 (talk) 13:55, 6 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I just checked, and it seems to have been automatically protected since it transcludes to the main page. Everything should be all right, then.-RHM22 (talk) 14:03, 6 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for catching that. I don't know how long it's been that way. —howcheng {chat} 17:48, 6 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, somebody reported it on the main page talk.-RHM22 (talk) 18:04, 6 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The Signpost: 29 April 2015[edit]

Resurrection of Southern California Task Force[edit]

After moving from Los Angeles County to Kern County to San Luis Obispo County, I am finally realizing that there is life in California outside of L.A. and San Francisco, where I lived and grew up. Oh, I have also lived in San Diego, San Bernardino, San Joaquin, Yolo and Sacramento counties, and I earned my undergraduate degree in Riverside County. I am trying to breathe life into the Southern California Task Force, and I hope you will join me. Could you visit our list of participants at the other end of this link and update your description of what you are interested in doing for us, assuming that you still want to be in the mix, that is.

In recompense, I will buy you a drink during the Wikipedia Week I am planning for Morro Bay on the Central Coast in July. Yours sincerely, BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 18:13, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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June 11, plz — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.27.171.4 (talk) 08:11, 11 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What does it mean?[edit]

I was reading materials mentioned here. One of the parts seemed puzzling to me:

For events 100 years old and up, that means multiples of 25 (e.g., 200th, 325th, 550th, etc). If it's less than 100 years old, that means in multiples of 25 or 10 (e.g., 75th, 60th, 30th).

What does it mean? Mhhossein (talk) 14:45, 12 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If the event is <= 100 years old, then significant anniversaries are 10, 20, 25, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 75, 80, 90, and 100 (multiples of 10 and 25). When it is >100 years old, then they are every 25 years: 125, 150, 175, 200, etc. Does that make sense? —howcheng {chat} 04:20, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
That's clear, thanks. Bty, how do we include incidents like Arba'een? Do we have to act based on this criteria? Mhhossein (talk) 13:07, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
No, Arba'een is an annual observance, so it gets included with the holidays every year. Regardless, an event having a "significant anniversary" only gets preference for inclusion that year. It still can be included in other years. —howcheng {chat} 05:02, 14 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much! Mhhossein (talk) 18:08, 14 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 10 June 2015[edit]

LA Wiknic 2015[edit]

Can we decide on a date this week Howard, Chris Troutman (talk), of either July 5th or Sat the 11th, I need to put in for a vacation day if it is the 5th this week to get the day off, plus I'm dog sitting that particular day so my trip to LA will be shortened. Tinkermen (talk) posted Sunday June 14

Let's go with the 11th then. Last year we did 4th of July weekend and had a fairly low turnout. —howcheng {chat} 04:24, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The 11th sounds great, Chris Troutman (talk) you ok with the 11th and do you wanna set up the event then or would you like one of us to? Tinkermen (talk) posted Monday June 15
I can do it later tonight, if I remember. :) —howcheng {chat} 17:04, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
(talkpage lurker) When you do, please add a link to the LA meetup page at Wikipedia:Wiknic :)--Pharos (talk) 21:00, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Selected anniversaries[edit]

I've contributed to Selected anniversaries for two or three times where you usually edit. It's an interesting job. Is there any chance that I can help you handle the affairs related to it? Mhhossein (talk) 13:31, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Of course. Just get familiar with the rules and start editing. If you want to start small, just do one or two changes for the dates you want to edit. I will almost always keep any changes you put in (the exceptions will be article quality, or some other policy reason like the article appears on a different day or a significant anniversary will take precedence over the one you picked). Thanks and happy editing! —howcheng {chat} 17:01, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Howcheng! As you see, what I do these days for WP:OTD is performing just some basic cleanups. I think there are more things that I can do here. How can I help? --Mhhossein (talk) 12:00, 7 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The next step is picking the articles to appear from the pool of eligible articles. First you go with the round-number anniversaries (multiples of 100, multiples of 10 if < 100 years old, multiples of 25 if > 100, then based on that, pick other articles that will fit. Try to keep diversity in time, geography, and topic. Don't feel bad if I overrule you; I probably had a good reason to do it. —howcheng {chat} 06:46, 8 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Another thing to do at the beginning of each month, is to move the holidays/observances that change every year to the correct date for this year. Since it's the beginning of August now, we should be doing the ones in September. —howcheng {chat} 06:48, 8 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
And yet one more thing to do is to go through the article for the date (like August 8) and find new articles to add to the OTD page. If you're really ambitious you can search Google "august 8" or "8 august" site:en.wikipedia.org for articles that aren't even on the date page, although that search turns up a lot of junk. —howcheng {chat} 06:56, 8 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

June 2015[edit]

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Battle of Waterloo[edit]

Howdy. Do you think you could give the Battle of Waterloo the picture for Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/June 18, i.e. tomorrow? It's the 200th anniversary and there's significant press coverage and commemoration. Cheers, Oreo Priest talk 12:09, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that at 100x100 pixels, any painting of the battle becomes too small to really see anything. If you have a suggestion that works, I'll be happy to put it in. —howcheng {chat} 16:29, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Makes sense! Here are a few suggestions (which the template puts at the right). Napoleon might be the best bet, but I've included some others. If you still don't like any, I'll keep digging! Oreo Priest talk 18:56, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Wikipedia:Today's featured article/June 18, 2015‎‎[edit]

Hi, I'm not following ... none of the other still images at WP:TFAA have captions. (The text stands in for the caption.) - Dank (push to talk) 17:24, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Dank: See Talk:Main Page. People have been proposing solutions for the "image not aligned with text" problem for ITN and OTD for a long time, but it always bogs down in discussion and ends up running out of steam. So I decided to be bold and put in the caption proposal for OTD and TFA for tomorrow as a test (see WP:Main Page/Tomorrow) to see how it looks. I figured that if someone doesn't take action, the discussion will go nowhere again. If nobody has objections, I'll add to DYK and ITN so that all 4 sections are in sync. —howcheng {chat} 21:54, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. I'll support whatever Chris wants to do with this. - Dank (push to talk) 23:16, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Side note[edit]

This image was unprotected. (It did, however, look fine on my end.) —David Levy 02:34, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 17 June 2015[edit]

5th Annual Wiknic[edit]

5th Annual Wiknic (Saturday, July 11, 2015, ~9:30am-4pm)

Dear fellow Wikipedian,

You are cordinally invited to the fifth annual Los Angeles Wiknic!

The Wiknic is a part of the nationwide Great American Wiknic. We'll be grilling, getting to know each other better, and building the L.A. Wikipedia community! The event is tentatively planned for Pan-Pacific Park (map) and will be held on Saturday, July 11, 2014 from 9:30am to 4pm or so. Please RSVP and volunteer to bring food or drinks if possible!

I hope to see you there! Howcheng (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:40, 21 June 2015 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.[reply]

  • Hey, I'm not sure how this works, but there's now a notice on my watchlist about this event. Pan-Pacific Park in the notice is missing a hyphen so clicking on it doesn't work. Hopefully, you know how to fix it. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:16, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 24 June 2015[edit]

Wiknic[edit]

The Wiknic was scheduled at the same time as a preexisting Wikipedia meetup in Redondo Beach (see Wikipedia:Meetup/LA). I could contact the library about moving its event if necessary, but I'm not sure it can be moved given that the library does publicity with paper flyers etc... But on the other hand it looks like the Wiknic has been pretty extensively publicized. Any ideas about what makes most sense now? It seems like a shame to divide our efforts. Calliopejen1 (talk) 02:43, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Let's reschedule the Wiknic to the 25th. I think that's the official Great American Wiknic day anyway. —howcheng {chat} 15:51, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Heh. I'm curious, how long have you been in SoCal? I think you alienated half of your audience with that photo of meat on a grill.[2] A lot of us gave up meat a very long time ago. Anyhoo, carry on with the carnivorous behavior... Viriditas (talk) 09:31, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I have been in SoCal since 1988, minus a few years spent abroad. I think you highly overestimate the percentage of people who are vegetarian. The vast majority of those that I know are Indian. BTW the meat picture was used last year as well. —howcheng {chat} 12:18, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Watermelon steak
Help! I'm oppressed! :) But seriously, I think you underestimate the percentage of people in the U.S. who are reducing their meat intake. And when you combine the vegan, vegetarian, and meat reducers (mostly vegetarian, some meat) together, you get about 40% of the American public. To make a long story short, Los Angeles is generally considered the center of the vegetarian scene in the United States, so there's actually more people who are trying to reduce or eliminate their meat intake in that part of the country than anywhere else. In any case, things change. There was a time in this country, when tobacco smoking was a sign of class, wealth, and prestige. Obviously, that is no longer true, and tobacco smoking in the U.S. at least, is mostly an activity by the working poor. The same trend appears to be the case with meat eating. At one time in the U.S., meat eating was associated with class, wealth, and prestige. That is no longer true. Viriditas (talk) 22:53, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Well there's certainly room for vegans/vegetarians at the Wiknic, so by all means come on down! —howcheng {chat} 02:41, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the invite, but I won't be able to make it. I'm stuck inside of Maui with the Santa Monica blues again. :) I hope you have a great time, and remember, next year you can use a more neutral image, like a watermelon steak, for example. And yes, you can win friends with salad... Viriditas (talk) 05:26, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I beg to differ. —howcheng {chat} 05:33, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 01 July 2015[edit]

Wikinic rescheduled[edit]

5th Annual Wiknic rescheduled to Saturday, July 25, 2015, ~9:30am-4pm

Due to a conflict with the Redondo Loves Wikipedia edit-a-thon, the fifth annual Los Angeles Wiknic has been rescheduled. As before, the location will be at Pan-Pacific Park (map) and will be held on Saturday, July 25, 2015 from 9:30am to 4pm or so. Please RSVP and volunteer to bring food or drinks if possible!

I hope to see you there! —howcheng {chat} - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:28, 7 July 2015 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.[reply]

The Signpost: 08 July 2015[edit]

The Signpost: 15 July 2015[edit]

Reverting my attempt at a discussion: Mistake?[edit]

Was your reversion of my edit a mistake on your part?—chbarts (talk) 00:25, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If you don't want to have a discussion here, we can have it here. Remember: Bold Revert Discuss. I was bold, I was reverted, now we must discuss the proposed change in light of policy.—chbarts (talk) 00:31, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Captions[edit]

Hi! Have you read my reply at Wikipedia talk:In the news#Main Page image caption? (I support the underlying goal, but my current concerns constitute an "objection" to the planned Saturday introduction, with which you appear to be proceeding.) —David Levy 21:38, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies for replying at Wikipedia talk:In the news instead of Talk:Main Page (where discussion already had occurred). I overlooked the latter thread, for which I should have thought to check. —David Levy 00:36, 18 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • If you're looking for a venue to test the mobile site; check out today's mobile main page. TFA is using a caption. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:41, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Main page image[edit]

Hello again. The template appears to have some issues:

  1. When the "link" parameter duplicates the "image" parameter, this redundancy should have no effect. Instead, it results in an explicit link to the image description page, which disables the Media Viewer.
  2. When the "width" parameter is left blank ("width = "), the image is displayed at full-width instead of the default 120px.
  3. The documented "border" parameter doesn't appear to function.

Additionally, the following issues existed specifically at ITN (until I implemented a wrapper, which also corrected the first two issues noted above):

  1. Blanking the "image" parameter (our normal practice when no suitable image is available) breaks the template's transclusion (by displaying raw code) instead of removing the image and related content.
  2. The "link" parameter requires the inclusion of "File:" (or "Image:") to link to an image description page, irrespective of whether the prefix was applied to the "image" parameter. (I realize that this enabled linking to other types of page, but I'm not aware of such usage in any of the relevant main page sections. ITN's longstanding "link" implementation permitted the prefix's omission, so this change would have been problematic.)

Also, the "size" parameter (which you left in place) doesn't appear to exist in the new template. (I replaced it with "width".) —David Levy 16:13, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for checking those. I fixed the link, blank width parameter, and border issues, and those are in the sandbox now (see User:Howcheng/sandbox). However, I was unable to get the blank image parameter to work. I think keeping that wrapper is a good idea for that particular problem. —howcheng {chat} 17:57, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Could you please captionize Queue 4? I've had a request up at WP:ERRORS for several hours to do both that one and the one on the Main Page. Thanks for taking care of the MP one, but nobody's gotten around to doing the queue yet. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 23:31, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oh yeah I'm actually right in the middle of doing it. Gotta crop the image first. I don't know if I can make the template work with {{Css Image Crop}}. —howcheng {chat} 23:34, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 23:41, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The Template Barnstar

For helping to achieve the impossible, here's another barnstar for the pile. —David Levy 00:31, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Main page image (continued)[edit]

I noticed that the captions are displayed at 8.5px in MonoBook and 9.5px in Vector, with the latter much more likely to wrap. Might it be possible to eliminate this disparity? —David Levy 00:12, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@David Levy: apparently, it's set to be 94% of the regular font size, which is in fact bigger in Vector. Obviously we can set this to a fixed size, but I believe the practice is to set them to relative sizes, so it's always going to be a little bigger in Vector. —howcheng {chat} 22:22, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Do you think that setting it to a fixed size (8.5px, ideally) would be controversial? I suspect that some of the complaints about "ugliness" stem from the unintended wrapping in Vector (which, frankly, is ugly much of the time – particularly when a single word appears on a separate line). For this atypical application, an exception to the usual practice seems appropriate. —David Levy 00:13, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
We could do that. It's actually closer to 11px in Monobook (according to the built-in code inspector) and 12px in Vector. We can give it a shot in the sandbox. —howcheng {chat} 07:13, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, okay. I was going by the resultant formatting when I copied and pasted the text into a Microsoft Word document. Perhaps the duplication isn't exact.
Yes, let's try it out. —David Levy 07:54, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I was just reminded of this by a discussion at WP:ERRORS. (A caption looked bad under Vector.) Can you please place the necessary code in the sandbox? —David Levy 02:11, 18 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'm no longer in favor of a fixed font size; that reduces readability for people who use the "Zoom" feature (to increase font sizes). So instead I changed it to be at 90% size instead of 94%: Template:Main page image/sandbox. —howcheng {chat} 03:36, 18 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Mind you, reducing the tumbcaption fontsize may result in a too small font in Monobook. -- [[User:Edokter]] {{talk}} 11:50, 18 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It looked OK when I previewed the changes with the test cases. —howcheng {chat} 17:05, 18 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey, Muhammad: The Messenger of God (film) is a movie by Majidi on the life of Islamic prophet.[3] I don't know whether it qualifies to be on the main page in ITN box. Is it possible to have the news of its release there on the main page? Mhhossein (talk) 06:47, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I don't really work with ITN. Just take your chances at WP:ITN/C. —howcheng {chat} 07:09, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Yesterday you removed Defender of Ukraine Day (Ukraine) from Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/October 14 because it was a stub. I think it should be put back in the "main box that will be on Wikipedia's Main Page tomorrow". Since I believe after my enlargement of the article today it is no longer a Wikipedia Stub-article but a Start-article per Wikipedia:Stub#How_big_is_too_big.3F: "While very short articles are very likely to be stubs, there are some subjects about which very little can be written". — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 18:09, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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 Done. Nice work. —howcheng {chat} 18:25, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Day of Tasu'a[edit]

@Howcheng: Tasu'a is 9th day of Muharram and the day before Ashura. In current year, Tasu'a is 23 October. Thanks Saff V. (talk) 09:05, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Saff V.: Day of Ashura article says that's on 23 October, so wouldn't Tasu'a be 22 October? —howcheng {chat} 15:36, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Howcheng:Yes. According to calendar, first day of Muharram in 1437 is 14 October. Therefore, Ashura and Tasu'a are 23 and 22 October. Also, I added reference for the date in the article. Saff V. (talk) 06:54, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Regarding this edit, I'm just curious just how many years it is going to take to get United States Numbered Highways listed? I nominated it four years ago, yet it has never run once. Imzadi 1979 → 08:43, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I'd forgotten about that one. Next year will be 90 (a good round-number) so that will make it a lock. Unfortunately, there have been a number of factors conspiring to keep it out. For example, last there were two US articles that had significant anniversaries, so there was no way a third US one was going to make it. 2012 would have been an ideal year had I remembered it then. —howcheng {chat} 08:51, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Noting, we discussed this a year ago, where you said that it wouldn't have run last year because of other US-related items. There are other options to allow this one its first appearance by substituting out the battle from the War of 1812. Also, since the TFP is WWI-related, shouldn't the armistace be pulled? (It's already appeared 4 times anyway.) Or do I have to wait another year to try again? Imzadi 1979 → 08:58, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Replying after the EC, but I've been waiting 4 years already. Somehow I assumed your would once again be, "try again next year". Imzadi 1979 → 08:59, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Taking out the War of 1812 item would put too many 20th century items. Let me think about this overnight. It's 1 AM where I am so I need to hit the sack. —howcheng {chat} 09:02, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
There's a perfectly good item from 1805 that could run in place of the War of 1812 item, just substituting a European war for an American one. That would then let you swap the WWI armistace for the US Highway System, removing the doubling of WWI with TFP. Imzadi 1979 → 09:33, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. As I said earlier, since next year will be the 90th anniversary, that article will go next year as well. —howcheng {chat} 17:00, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Birth of Musa al-Kadhim[edit]

@Howcheng: Musa al-Kadhim is 7th Shia Imam and his birth is 19 October 2015 (7 Safar 128 AH). Thanks Saff V. (talk) 13:35, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Saff V.: Sorry, but birth and death anniversaries only get included on centennial anniversaries (with limited exceptions), so he wouldn't be listed until 2045. —howcheng {chat} 17:04, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Ia Drang citations[edit]

You recently put up a sign "needs additional citations" at the top of the article. Do you care to point out specifically which statements or sentences or parts or sections need additional citations?Tnguyen4321 (talk) 19:04, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Tnguyen4321: There are a lot of paragraphs and even some entire sections that have no citations at all (mostly in the "1st/7th Cav and the battle for LZ X-Ray" section, which happens to be the bulk of the article). I figured one tag at the top was better than lots of tags throughout the article. Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 19:20, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Re: the topic 'Overhauling this Article' of the talk page of the Battle of Ia Drang article, it was said: ... I'm overhauling this article to provide a more human side to the battle. My primary source is Moore & Galloway's We Were Soldiers Once...And Young. Thanks! James Cameron March 6/06. Therefore, I deem your tag is not relevant.Tnguyen4321 (talk) 21:08, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Listing the source on the talk page (or even in the "References" section by itself) does nothing. You still need the WP:inline citations. —howcheng {chat} 21:26, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If a 'general reference' does nothing to you, then it is preferable to put a tag 'citation needed' at each end of sentence or paragraph where needed; that is if you want to induce people to action and add citations.Tnguyen4321 (talk) 21:42, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, is it that James Cameron of the 'Terminator'?Tnguyen4321 (talk) 21:45, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Haha, I doubt it. Anyway, I was trying not to be a jerk about it, but I certainly can if you prefer. —howcheng {chat} 22:20, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If you can, then you can keep that 'general tag' while inserting the individual tags.Tnguyen4321 (talk) 22:35, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Put it as a general reference. And then, for specific statements, use <ref>Moore & Galloway p. 123</ref>. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 03:37, 14 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Arba'een[edit]

@Howcheng: 2 December 2015 is Arba'een, forty days after the Day of Ashura. Arba'een is one of the largest pilgrimage gatherings on Earth, in which up to 20 million people go to the city of Karbala in Iraq. Saff V. (talk) 14:41, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Did that one a few days ago. —howcheng {chat} 16:40, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Iranian constitutional referendum[edit]

Iranian constitutional referendum for Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Iran was held on 2 and 3 December 1979.Saff V. (talk) 14:09, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Saff V.: Neither article is eligible. The referendum article is too short and the Constitution article is tagged for expansion. Also, there seems to be a contradiction. The introduction to the Constitution article says it was adopted by referendum on October 24 and went into force on December 3. —howcheng {chat} 17:24, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Howcheng: According to this source and this one, 2 and 3 December is correct date.Saff V. (talk) 09:34, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Regardless, neither article is eligible for inclusion. —howcheng {chat} 16:42, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Howcheng: Why?Saff V. (talk) 07:18, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Look at my first reply. —howcheng {chat} 07:42, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Howcheng: I changed the date of referendum in the articles.Saff V. (talk) 10:07, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
OK, but you still have one section that's tagged for expansion. —howcheng {chat} 18:22, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Howcheng: I checked sources and edited the section and removed the tag.Saff V. (talk) 10:37, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good. I have put it in the staging area on December 3. —howcheng {chat} 16:53, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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13 December is start time of migration or journey of the Islamic prophet Muhammad and his followers from Mecca to Medina. This date is known as the start of the Hijri calendar. Saff V. (talk) 06:57, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Islamic calendar appears on Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/July 16, so cannot be included on December 13. —howcheng {chat} 07:00, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Can you add Announcerless Game in the Eligible list or the set meant for the Main Page? --George Ho (talk) 19:30, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know about that one. It was a failed experiment, so it wasn't particularly important for the sport. —howcheng {chat} 21:09, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You can add it as Eligible without putting it into a set, right? --George Ho (talk) 21:59, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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About Torii[edit]

Don't lump Japan in with Korea. The picture you're taking out persistently is an ordinary Korean(Chinese) gate. A Torii is a perch of a god. Where at that gate does a god land? Isn't that prickly? Korea is based on the civilization of Evenks. Korea is unrelated to Japan.--119.104.9.155 (talk) 22:07, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, you really don't know your Asian history. "Korea is unrelated to Japan"?? Then why do Korean and Japanese languages both use Chinese characters? Chinese culture spread through the Korean peninsula into Japan. I added sources that say torii and hongsal-mun may be related. Both are gates that are similar in appearance and separate sacred and profane space. If "Major civilizations according to Huntington" explicitly states that the two structures are not related, then we can include that in the article, but you cannot make changes to the article based on your own personal beliefs. Shinto is of course a native Japanese animistic religion but that doesn't meant it never imported concepts from other cultures. —howcheng {chat} 22:22, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Your subjectivity is empty.--119.104.16.252 (talk) 22:33, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand what that comment is supposed to mean. Regardless, there are published sources in the article that make the claim. It is not MY opinion that the two structure are related. Other scholarly sources are making that claim. If you want the article to state otherwise, then you need to provide the sources. —howcheng {chat} 22:40, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Don't plagiarize Japanese culture. Korea is a just different race. http://4ch-matome.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/1432848106467.gif --119.104.16.252 (talk) 22:41, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You are engaging in original research. Provide a source that says those two things are unrelated. —howcheng {chat} 00:24, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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@Howcheng: On 1 February 1979 Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, returned to Iran after 14 years in political exile. Therefore, this day is a important day in Iran and Islamic countries. Thanks Saff V. (talk) 09:57, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Howcheng: Please answer to my comment.Saff V. (talk) 07:43, 30 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Added to Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/February 1, but note that it won't run in the same year as Iranian Revolution. —howcheng {chat} 21:50, 30 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Howcheng:Thanks a lot. Saff V. (talk) 05:30, 1 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Iranian Revolution[edit]

@Howcheng: On 11 February 1979, Iranian Revolution succeed against Shah dynasty. This day is a turning point in history of Iran. Thanks Saff V. (talk) 10:04, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Howcheng: Please answer to my comment.Saff V. (talk) 07:43, 30 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Iranian Revolution is currently ineligible for inclusion (the section "Western/U.S.–Iranian relations" is empty). —howcheng {chat} 21:47, 30 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Mhhossein:Can you complete the Western/U.S.–Iranian relations section in the Iranian Revolution article? Saff V. (talk) 05:47, 1 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Saff V. Sorry for my belated reply, I'll take care of that. Mhhossein (talk) 11:39, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Mhhossein Thanks for your help.
@Howcheng: The article is complete. Saff V. (talk) 11:30, 3 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The nationalization of the Iran oil industry movement[edit]

Dear @Howcheng: on 17 March 1951, the nationalization of Iran oil industry verified by Iranian parliament.Saff V. (talk) 12:20, 14 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work, but I think this article needs to be edited by a native English speaker before being added to OTD. Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 17:27, 14 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Howcheng: I added the article in this page.Saff V. (talk) 08:30, 15 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Howcheng: What should I do? Tomorrow is 17 March.Saff V. (talk) 12:44, 16 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate that you were able to get this article done so quickly, but perhaps you just have to wait until next year. —howcheng {chat} 16:26, 16 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, I wanted to alert you that the 1 revert per 24 hour period on the Greco-Turkish war page you established was recently violated by user Gala19000, who is removing sourced content he doesn't like.[4] --Oatitonimly (talk) 22:59, 3 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Oatitonimly: Are you sure you have the right person? I don't think I have anything to do with that article. —howcheng {chat} 00:09, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Did you not create this? --Oatitonimly (talk) 00:21, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I see what happened. There was a hidden note in the article text, and all I did was move it to an edit notice. I have no idea if that one-revert rule is still in place or not. Sorry for the confusion. —howcheng {chat} 00:28, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Howard! I believe we met at one of the LA wikNics. I've helped launch monthly editathons here in San Diego in partnership with our libraries. I was on a call a week and a half ago with other user group leaders. Seattle's Cascadia user group was going to host the WikiCon USA this year but can't, so now I'm helping co-organize it here in San Diego with Pharos! October 7-10. I'm reaching out to all the SoCal wikipedians to get your perspectives and ideals for the events and related activities. Do you have time for a phone call asap? I've got a call scheduler up at www.calendly.com/melissaganus - please pick any time slot that would work for you! Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrMel (talk • contribs) 20:14, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@DrMel: I'm sorry for the late response. I've been swamped and I'm not sure when I might have some time. If you can wait until June (after my daughter's last soccer tournament) we can probably talk then. Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 06:50, 16 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Muhammad al-Mahdi[edit]

Hey dear Howcheng, I'd like to know if I've done this inclusion correctly. Thanks. --Mhhossein (talk) 03:44, 16 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It looks good, except that the date of 23 May is not actually in the article anywhere. —howcheng {chat} 06:45, 16 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It's based on non-Gregorian calendar which changes from year to year. Should it be mentioned that it is on 23 May in 2016? how? --Mhhossein (talk) 09:12, 16 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Look at other Islamic holiday articles, you should be able to do something similar. Maybe not in the infobox, but a section that indicates the Gregorian observed date each year. —howcheng {chat} 15:50, 16 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Such as what we did here? But that article, i.e Arbaeen, was an observance while our main topic here is not an observance we're just mentioning his birth. Should we still cover 'the 23 May'? --Mhhossein (talk) 05:15, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Mhhossein: Yes, something like that. Maybe you have a section that describes that the day is a holiday in these locations, maybe some details about what people do to celebrate the day, and then put the table in. That's my suggestion, anyway. —howcheng {chat} 23:15, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your suggestion. I did the job, plz see if every thing is OK. I also changed the date (because it's on 22 May 2016, not 23). --Mhhossein (talk) 05:07, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Liberation of Khorramshahr[edit]

on 24 May 1982 during the Iran–Iraq War, the Liberation of Khorramshahr was the Iranian recapture of the port city of Khorramshahr from the Iraqis after 575 days. I nominated my suggestion at this page. ThanksLstfllw203 (talk) 17:02, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Lstfllw203: Please put it at Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/May 24 instead. Article looks good. Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 17:22, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I hope done [[5]] in correct way. Thanks for your patient.Lstfllw203 (talk) 17:39, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Movement of 15 Khordad[edit]

@Howcheng: - Movement of 15 Khordad: Protests against the arrest of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini by the Shah of Iran, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi. In several cities, masses of angry demonstrators are confronted by tanks and paratroopers. Please add this OTD at the first page. Is it possible?Saff V. (talk) 08:57, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good to go. It's already in the staging area, so when the time comes I'll put it in. —howcheng {chat} 16:10, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Saff V. (talk) 07:44, 24 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Laylat al-Qadr ( night of decree )[edit]

Hey, this night is observed by the Muslim community every year during Ramdan. However, Shia and Sunni regard almost different nights as Laylat al-Qadr. According to my findings, Shia Muslims know 19, 21 and 23 of Ramadan night as the Qadr night and believe that 23rd is more probable, while sunnis know 21, 23, 25, 27 and 29 as the Qadr night and believe that 27th of Ramadan is more probable. How can we have this observance? My suggestion: As 23rd is common in both sect, we can have it on that night. Mhhossein (talk) 07:00, 10 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

If we are sure about the dates, we can add it to both days, just add "(Shia Islam, 2016)" or "(Sunni Islam, 2016)" after the link to the article. —howcheng {chat} 16:16, 10 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That's good. I think now there should be a paragraph or table verifying the exact date based on Gregorian calendar. Mhhossein (talk) 16:52, 10 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Here and here. Mhhossein (talk) 13:33, 12 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Iran Air Flight 655[edit]

@Howcheng: On 3 July 1988, United States Navy warship USS Vincennes shoots down Iran Air Flight 655 over the Persian Gulf, killing all 290 people aboard. I want show this OTD on the first page. Saff V. (talk) 14:10, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Saff V.: It was just on last year and it's not a significant anniversary, so that means it will probably be rotated off for this year. —howcheng {chat} 05:54, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

OJ Simpson robbery[edit]

Hello Howcheng, I want to add a section that you requested to the O. J. Simpson robbery case article that details what happened during the robbery. Any chance you can help me write that section? Right now, I'm looking at the Las Vegas Sun's page on the trial as a source for what happened. I also would like to hear your thoughts on using O.J.: Made in America as a source? Thomson200 (talk) 19:14, 26 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think that's a valid source. I just watched that myself. I was thinking we could add that claim by the defense investigator about OJ not taking his arthritis medicine for two weeks prior to trying on the glove. —howcheng {chat} 04:28, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I was referring to the robbery case, not the murder case, but OK, I'll use the documentary as a source for what exactly happened during the robbery. Thomson200 (talk) 21:46, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I know. That was a just an additional thought I had. —howcheng {chat} 07:02, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I added a section on what happened during the robbery. What do you think? Thomson200 (talk) 00:55, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good. I did some copyediting (lots of repeated use of the word "memorabilia"). Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 16:35, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Houston Ship Channel[edit]

Hi Howcheng,

I'm a wikipedian from Germany and have asked our photo workshop to improve this photo of the Houston Ship Channel:

Do you know which place the picture exactly shows?--Kopiersperre (talk) 16:00, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Kopiersperre: No, sorry. I don't live in Houston. I wrote the original article based on a NASA article, so I'm afraid I can't help you with that. —howcheng {chat} 16:05, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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July 27 OTD[edit]

Thanks for featuring Charles Fryatt (almost 30k views), but the notes are wrong. This was the third appearance in OTD. He previously appeared in 2012 and 2013. Mjroots (talk) 06:22, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

19 August[edit]

@Howcheng: Cinema Rex fire was painful event that occurred on 19 August 1978. I want to edit this article and nominate it for OTD. What is your idea about it and is it possible? Saff V. (talk) 12:35, 30 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Right now there is a section with no references, so the article can't be included. —howcheng {chat} 00:23, 31 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Howcheng: Now the article is complete. Saff V. (talk) 18:30, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Howcheng: Now the article is on the August 19, is it possible to show on the main page? Saff V. (talk) 19:41, 10 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good to go. Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 20:26, 10 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Dear @Howcheng: I think 1953 Iranian coup d'état is an interesting subject which coincides with Cinema Rex fire except that they have occurred in different years. To me, the coup d'état will be more interesting to readers and I suggest to have Cinema Rex fire's blurb replaced with that of the coup d'état, if there are limitations on having two blurbs from same geographical location.Saff V. (talk) 14:57, 11 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
OK, either one works. We'll probably switch them in and out in following years. —howcheng {chat} 18:07, 11 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Asking for clarification[edit]

After you helpful guide on how to edit OTD anniversary pages, I'm trying to do my best in this field. I'm learning new points almost every session. For this, I'd like to ask you clarify this edit of yours, please. I just want to know why 1960 and 1980 blurbs were replaced with other blurbs and why my note regarding 30th anniversary of Hungerford massacre was deleted. Thanks. --Mhhossein talk 11:04, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Basically I was trying to get a wider range of dates. The 1991 blurb has priority (25th anniversary), so the 1989 one is too close. Then it was a matter of choosing between 1953 and 1960, and Saff V. asked to include the 1953 one (above), so that's why I took out 1960. As for the note, we should put that on the talk page. But thank you for asking, and thank you for your edits. They do save me a bit of time. :) —howcheng {chat} 16:02, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Now the edit makes sense to me, thanks to your explanation. You're welcome, editing OTD is enjoyable although I had to do the edits one day ahead. Anyway, I put that note in the staging area, since I had seen such a thing before (I can't remember where) and I think this way the user may notice the note when updating the blurbs. Btw, did you forget to put the "2016 notes" on the talk page? --Mhhossein talk 05:36, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding this edit, you removed the blurb containing the emboldened Mamluk Sultanate (Cairo) from the list and emboldened Battle of Marj Dabiq instead. As you see, Mamluk Sultanate (Cairo) had not maintenance problem and I had added a citation for sake verification. Thanks. --Mhhossein talk 13:15, 23 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

One of the guidelines is that the fact in the blurb should be highly relevant to the article in bold. So in that case, the battle is the obvious article to be bold, but the battle is relatively unimportant when considering the entire history of the sultanate. So it doesn't make sense to have the sultanate be the "featured" article for the blurb. Does that make sense? —howcheng {chat} 16:41, 23 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, thank you for the explanation and I hope that my questions do not bother you. By the way, I'm occasionally seeing notes left on the staging area untouched. Should they be there? While I think we'd better let them be there, I remember that you removed my note there. --Mhhossein talk 05:26, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Those notes are to make sure we don't repeat topics, so they can stay there all the time. The notes for a specific year should go on the talk page. At least that's how I see it, although I suppose it's not a rule or anything. —howcheng {chat} 05:39, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I see. Thanks. --Mhhossein talk 12:38, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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aug 19 On This Day inaccurate, admin restricted[edit]

The August 19th Selected_anniversaries/August has an inaccuracy that it seems that you added. It is still transcluded with main/yesterday so only admins can edit it. It says that the CIA coup restored the "absolute monarchy" of the shah. Iran, in fact, was under a constitutional monarchy, not an absolute monarchy, (Iran Under the Ayatollahs - Dilip Hiro https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1135043817) not to mention that the whole thing, as was previously recognized, seems quite the npov violation. Mosaddegh, at that point, was a military dictator who was arresting opposing members of parliament after he dismissed parliament before it succumbed to corruption by democracy. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Selected_anniversaries/August_19&diff=445536110&oldid=443812629 TeeTylerToe (talk) 17:01, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Asking for a favor from you[edit]

Greetings, Howcheng.

Since I know you tend to surf around on some of the Jewish holidays pages during this time of year, I wonder if I can ask the following of you:

  1. Like some others, would you please keep an eye on the pages while many of us are offline during the holidays?
  2. (Specific request to you:) Would you mind going to the page Hebrew calendar some time after 00:00 UTC on Monday, October 3 and to refresh the cache/reload the page there? Entirely aside from the "today is" template sitting on that page, there is actually now body text in the lede of that article that is designed to update each year on Rosh Hashanah to reflect the starting and ending dates of the Jewish year. But I'm not sure if that body text will automatically appear for people unless the cache is refreshed, and I (the person who wrote the code, and who otherwise would take care of it) will be off-wiki until nightfall EDT on Tuesday, October 4. So if you don't mind doing that, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:31, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@StevenJ81: You got it. —howcheng {chat} 16:36, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

27 September[edit]

Thanks for the work on keeping that up to date. But shouldn't this article be in the eligible (but unused) category? The protests were international, with demonstrations in numerous countries, the withdrawal of ambassadors of 15 European countries and statements and involvement on the part of the Vatican and the Mexican and US governments, questions in the United Nations and subsequent involvement of Argentinian judges, Interpol and the European court of Human rights? Valenciano (talk) 10:00, 27 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Valenciano: Done. —howcheng {chat} 16:14, 27 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The confusion[edit]

Sorry for the confusion I made. However, before my intervention, Tasu'a were on the wrong day and it was after Ashura (while it falls every year one day before Ashura). Per "actual sighting of the moon with the naked eyes" Ashura falls on 12 October. Thanks. --Mhhossein talk 18:27, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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I had busy days in recent weeks and I could not actively edit the pages and help you with OTD affairs. Sorry for that. --Mhhossein talk 09:39, 6 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Help with OtD[edit]

Hi Howcheng,

If I wanted to help out with OTD, what would be the best way to do so without (a) stepping on your toes, and (b) doubling up on the same work? This is brought on by a thread on Talk:Main Page, where there is some criticism for not having Remembrance Day on the OTD page today. I imagine if I did as much as I'm willing/able, I'd be able to put in about 3% of the work you do, but that's 3% you don't have to do. --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:47, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Floquenbeam: I suppose if the goal is avoid this type of criticism in the future, the thing to do would be make sure that the upcoming holiday articles are all in good shape. I don't do that much work in repairing articles that are no longer eligible, so that would be good to do. For holidays that aren't on the Gregorian calendar, I sometimes have to find the dates for the current year, so that would be helpful as well. Mhhossein (talk · contribs) helps out when he can by vetting the articles in the staging area to see if they are still eligible this year. The biggest help would be to make ineligible articles eligible again, but that's obviously far more work than could be expected of anyone. Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 05:35, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That's the point. The articles need to be prepared and not much work are done in this regard. It would be nice if users like Floquenbeam could help with this. --Mhhossein talk 15:16, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Arbaeen pilgrimage or Arbaeen[edit]

Last year we had Arbaeen as the observance. However, I'd like to see if this year Arba'een Pilgrimage can be regarded as the observance instead? Arba'een pilgrimage is the largest annual gathering. --Mhhossein talk 07:06, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think we can do both at the same time. —howcheng {chat} 07:44, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
How? --Mhhossein talk 15:37, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Arba'een/Arba'een Pilgrimage (Shia Islam, 2016)
Yes that's fine. --Mhhossein talk 07:01, 18 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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OTD[edit]

1910 – ...against what they called the "slavery" being practiced by the Brazilian Navy.

"Being practiced by" is awkward. Suggest it be replaced by "in the Brazilian Navy." Sca (talk) 15:44, 22 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
— Why did you delete the above comment? Sca (talk) 19:07, 22 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Sca: Because I fixed it per your suggestion. See my edit summary —howcheng {chat} 23:24, 22 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, sorry. TNX. Sca (talk) 01:13, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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OTD[edit]

What happened with this? Sca (talk) 01:35, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Same as last time you asked me: I did what was requested and cleared the report. —howcheng {chat} 05:00, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
OK, sorry to pester you. I failed to notice your "done, thanks." Cheers. Sca (talk) 20:13, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Mawlid begins at shia Islam, 2016[edit]

Please include (Mawlid (Shia Islam, 2016)) for the observances of 17 December. You can verify it here. --Mhhossein talk 16:50, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the swift reaction. However, Mawalid has already begun, so "begins at sunset" does not make sense. The current wording would be correct if we had it for 16 December. --Mhhossein talk 18:32, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It was there yesterday... I moved it from Dec 16 to Dec 17. I'll revert myself then. —howcheng {chat} 19:11, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It has to be on 17 December, but with current wording. I mean Mawlid (Shia Islam), 2016 can be on OTD today. Why did you remove it? --Mhhossein talk 05:07, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Now, I see. --Mhhossein talk 05:17, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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