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Tech News: 2020-27

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Problems

  • Everyone was logged out. This was because a few users saw the wikis as if they were logged in to someone else's account. The problem should be fixed now. [1]
  • Some readers didn't see new edits to pages. If the page had been recently changed they saw an older version of the page instead. This only affected readers who were logged out. It lasted for ten days. It has been fixed. [2]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 July. It will be on all wikis from 1 July (calendar).

Future changes

  • The Modern and Monobook skins use the ID searchGoButton for the go button. This is searchButton for Vector. To have the same ID for all skins it will change to searchButton in Monobook and Modern too. This will affect gadgets and user scripts. It will happen on 23 July. They should be updated to use searchButton. You can read more and see a list of affected scripts.

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16:30, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

WikiLoop Battlefield new name vote

Dear Glen,

Thank you for your interest and contributions to WikiLoop Battlefield. We are holding a voting for proposed new name. We would like to invite you to this voting. The voting is held at m:WikiProject_WikiLoop/New_name_vote and ends on July 13th 00:00 UTC.

xinbenlv Talk, Remember to "ping" me 05:01, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

thank you Stillth (talk) 04:05, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Stillth erm thanks but this is kind of the point of my post. Please understand this is an encyclopedia not Facebook. Can I please ask if this is your first account on Wikipedia? Glen 04:12, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Someone gave you food as a thanks and you're complaining, in a God damn talk page? Do you even think of others and how they feel? You should be ashamed for how you think.Mantr33r (talk)

Mantr33r and they ended up getting blocked too. Obviously I just wasn't hungry. Glen 12:24, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Dude if someone was being that thankful to me I'd accept it, although the imagery is a bit too much. No reason to brag about being, needlessly coarse to people.Mantr33r (talk)

Holiness

Hi Glen. Re your warning at User talk:2600:1014:D14C:2952:0:22:E041:B501: I've blocked the range 2600:1014:D14C:2952::/64 as well as 2601:581:8400:BFE0::/64, which edited Gino Jennings four times, both for a week. Obviously all the same person. Bishonen | tålk 09:05, 1 July 2020 (UTC).

Bishonen, cheers for the update. See page has been protected too so definitely sorted. Thanks Bish. Glen 09:56, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
Yeah.. except that since they had two /64s, they've surely got more, so we may still need to do some whac-a-mole. Not that a bit of userpage disruption is a big deal — we're all used to it. Bishonen | tålk 10:19, 1 July 2020 (UTC).
Bishonen, my favourite game! :) Glen 10:24, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2020

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2020).

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

Arbitration

  • Following the banning of an editor by the WMF last year, the Arbitration Committee resolved to hold an RfC regarding on-wiki harassment. The RfC has been posted at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Anti-harassment RfC and is open to comments from the community.
  • The Medicine case was closed, with a remedy authorizing standard discretionary sanctions for all discussions about pharmaceutical drug prices and pricing and for edits adding, changing, or removing pharmaceutical drug prices or pricing from articles.
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User:Goofdawg

I don't know if it was immediately obvious, but that user was copying the content from my user page to their own in an attempt to be disruptive. Not sure how it took so long for them to be banned, but thank fuck they're gone. – PeeJay 10:55, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

PeeJay2K3, no it wasn't I just saw the edit summary and edit war on Paul Scholes. Glen 10:57, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, that one got out of hand quickly. Probably should have left it alone and waited for them to be blocked, but in many ways, I think I provided the rope he used to hang himself, so I have no regrets. – PeeJay 10:58, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
PeeJay2K3, Yes report to AIV if obvious vandalism or ANI and we'll sort it. Without context it looked like a personal attack which may not have ended well. I almost blocked both of you for 3RR as well. Anyway as you say sorted for now. Glen 11:01, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-28

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Problems

  • The Score extension has been disabled for now. This is because of a security issue. It will work again as soon as the security issue has been fixed. [3]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 July. It will be on all wikis from 9 July (calendar).

Future changes

  • Abstract Wikipedia is a new Wikimedia project. It will collect language-independent information that can be easily read in different languages. It builds on Wikidata. The name is preliminary. You can read more. [4]
  • The iOS Wikipedia app developers are thinking about new experimental tools. If you use an iPhone you can help them by answering the survey.
  • Some rules for user signatures will soon be enforced. Lint errors and invalid HTML will no longer be allowed in user signatures. Nested substitution will not be allowed. A link to your user page, user talk page or user contributions will be required. You can check if your signature works with the new rules. This is because the signatures can cause problems for tools or other text on the page.

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20:18, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
For your thoughtful, positive, and helpful responses to a discussion on my user talk page here where a new user asks for help with creating an article. As I said in my response to you at the end of that discussion, this is the exact kind of attitude, effort, and time that will positively attract new users to edit Wikipedia, keep them as editors long-term, and that I believe the majority of experienced Wikipedia users need to demonstrate and improve on. Thanks again. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:12, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
Oshwah Why thank you for the kind words, appreciated! Glen 03:37, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
You bet. It was well deserved and the least I could do for you. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:43, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Revdel of new user logs

Hi Glen! Just an FYI: When you're applying revdel to remove an abusive username from the new user log, you have to revdel both the action/target and the performer's username/IP. Leave the summary unticked. Otherwise, if you don't do it this way, it will still be visible in the API and users can run queries and see it. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:15, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Oshwah, ah awesome cheers. Thanks for heads up. Glen 08:18, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
You bet. Just keeping an eye out for my fellow admins. Thanks for being on top of the LTA abuse and for cleaning that garbage up so quickly! ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:19, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-29

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Users can thank others for their edits. Checkusers can now see user data related to that action. This can help identify sock puppets who harass others using thanks. [5]

Problems

  • Everyone was logged out a couple of weeks ago to fix a security problem. The problem was not entirely fixed. Because of this everyone was logged out once again last week. [6][7]

Changes later this week

  • Wikis that are not for one specific language can translate pages. Sometimes parts of translations are outdated or missing. Outdated translations are marked with a pink background. Missing translations will also be marked in the future. This markup can sometimes break things. It can soon be disabled by using <translate nowrap></translate> on the source page. [8]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 July. It will be on all wikis from 16 July (calendar).

Future changes

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16:29, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Admin's Barnstar
For all of the blocks of that annoying LTA DannyS712 (talk) 04:36, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
DannyS712, thanks! #teameffort :) Glen 04:37, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Request for content protection

Sir, I have been recently blocked by you as user GreaterPonce665 complaint against me. Sir, I would request you to take a look at this matter carefully. I had added a list of the names of the principals 3 months ago which was appreciated by other users and wiki administrator Dinnaa.The recent edit that GreaterPonce665 have made in Medical College Kolkata is disruptive. He is neither familiar with our college history nor have any idea about our regional culture.I believe personal grudge should not be reflected in wikipedia. This is a heritage institution established by British in 1835, the first medical college in Asia with numerous significant people as Principals such as David Hare, E Goodeve and many others. The contribution of all the principals in medical education in our college is irrefutable .They did enormous contribution in public health and welfare of college and research regarding medical sciences. This is a small tribute we can pay towards them .Hope you will understand the significance of principals column. Its disheartening being blocked by you. Being a doctor and a proud alumni of Medical College Kolkata I would request you to bring back the principal list and protect it in order to prevent disruptive editing.I would be highly obliged if you kindly accept my requests. Thanking you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Civilguy1997 (talk • contribs) 14:43, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Civilguy1997, whether you are "right" or not the fact is that you were edit warring which is highly disruptive to the encyclopedia. The reason why I only blocked you from editing article space and not the talk pages (or user talk pages) was so you can go to the talk page and discuss your changes to get consensus on the additions. You broke the three revert rule (several times over in fact). I would highly encourage you to discuss your changes with the editors that have been reverting you. Your block will expire tomorrow but I will forewarn you if you go back and immediately start acting in the same manner you will almost certainly be blocked again. Additionally none of your edits were cited so please read WP:CITE. Finally you also threatened another editor which would almost always result in an indefinite block under no legal threats. Remember Wikipedia is about collaboration so you need to work with others. Glen 15:02, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

User talk

Hello Glen, can't he answer himself? If you make a mistake, you should also remove the warnings. Regards --Serols (talk) 16:00, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Serols, hey Serols, yes I'm sure he can but it's a bit of a long standing rule we Wikipedia:Don't template the regulars anyway, especially as he immediately reverted himself. One of the reasons I'm not a massive fan of Huggle actually, he may not even have realised you got the template. I went to undo the warning on your page too but saw you did it. All good! Glen 18:01, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-30

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Recent changes

  • A temporary fix helped wikis make their main pages more mobile friendly. This was in 2012. It has not been recommended since 2017. The mobile main page special casing stopped working 14 July. 60 wikis now have main pages that don't work well on mobile. You can see which ones, how to fix it and how to get help in Phabricator. This is the same problem that was reported in Tech News 2020/24 and 2020/26.

Problems

  • There is a problem with the interlanguage links. The interlanguage links are the links that help you find a specific page in a different language. The sorting is broken. The developers are working on a solution. [13]
  • Some users keep getting the notifications for the same event. Some of these are old events. [14]
  • Some users have trouble logging in. This is probably a browser cookie problem. The developers are working on understanding the problem. If you have trouble logging in you can see the details on Phabricator. [15]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 July. It will be on all wikis from 23 July (calendar).

Future changes

  • There is a Printable version link. This will disappear. That is because web browsers today can create a printable version or show how it will look in print anyway. [16]

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19:13, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

They say...

... that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. You must have a fan with the user Video Housenl Video Collection - check their userpage. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 03:50, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Drm310, erm, *facepalm*. Good to know I can happily reverse their sysop actions though :). Glen 04:04, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Announcing WikiLoop DoubleCheck

Dear Wikipedians and contributors, the open source Wikipedia review tool, previously "WikiLoop Battlefield" has completed its name vote and is announcing its new name: WikiLoop DoubleCheck. Read the full story on the program page on Meta-wiki, learn about ways to support this tool, and find out what future developments are coming for this tool.

Thank you to everyone who took part in the vote!

xinbenlv Talk, Remember to "ping" me 18:26, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

GoodDay

This time I didn't use the word "stupid" when I reverted it. diff -- Scjessey (talk) 15:55, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

I still don't think that Scjessey should be allowed to unilaterally decide who can or can't post what, at any discussion. GoodDay (talk) 15:57, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
Scjessey, I'm happy you're being civil in your edit summary but I don't agree with your reversion personally. GoodDay is discussing their opinion (rightly or wrongly) of the sources in the article itself which isn't a breach of WP:NOTFORUM in my opinion. Definitely not worth edit warring over. Glen 18:08, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
I sure got roasted a bit, over my posts (deleted twice) at the Biden Rfc. GoodDay (talk) 18:28, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
Scjessey, I've just seen you are discussing this on GoodDay's talk page as well so let's not splinter the discussion here. I agree with Deepfriedokra's comment about removing other's comments on talk pages so I'll comment there as well to keep the discussion intact. I'm also not American but know this subject is highly divisive which is why there's sanctions in place so try to keep a cool head. Thanks both. Glen 18:22, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Second Chance

Is it ok that I get a second chance? ฅʕ•̫͡•ʔฅ -- AgentZeroHelper2 (talk) 09:05, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

AgentZeroHelper2, your first account was blocked for promotional edits and a promotional username. Even if you do not use this account for promotion (which you will be immediately blocked for) your user name is still a breach of WP:PROMONAME. The fact that you still fail to understand this despite it being discussed extensively when you were originally blocked and in your failed unblock requests leads me to believe you still do not understand the policies of the encyclopedia. Glen 09:13, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Ok, I understand it now ฅʕ•̫͡•ʔฅ -- (talk) 09:14, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-31

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The Starter kit is now available for wiki communities. This page lists technical resources, tools, and recommendations. These are essential to operate a wiki project. This is mostly useful for smaller wikis where the community has limited experience with this. [17]
  • The first features of the Desktop Improvements project are available for logged-in users on all wikis. In order to use them, uncheck Use Legacy Vector in your local or global preferences in section Skin preferences. More improvements are planned. Feedback is welcome.
  • Advanced item On multiple wikis, a UTCLiveClock gadget is available. For wikis that import the gadget directly from mediawiki.org, end users can now choose a different timezone to show instead of UTC.

Problems

  • Advanced item The deployment train for MediaWiki has been blocked this week. [18][19]
  • Translation Notification Bot was sending the same message multiple times to every translator. This has been fixed. [20]
  • Some users were receiving the same notification multiple times. This has been fixed. [21]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from July 28. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from July 29. It will be on all wikis from JUly 30 (calendar).

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13:52, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

message

Glen why is there no filter to disallow new users from editing other's user pages? Like this one Special:Contributions/AirAirways? This proves abuse filter managers are illiterate. thanks MrAirwars (talk) 04:14, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

@MrAirwars: Because most users aren't vandals like that user is, so we try to assume good faith that edits to other user pages could be constructive. And please don't be so rude. (talk page stalker) Jackmcbarn (talk) 04:16, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
Jackmcbarn, this was another sock in an attempt to be "funny". Glen 04:21, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – August 2020

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2020).

Administrator changes

added Red Phoenix
readded Euryalus • SQL
removed Jujutacular • Monty845 • Rettetast • Madchester

Oversight changes

readded GB fan
removed Keegan • Opabinia regalis • Premeditated Chaos

Guideline and policy news

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:20, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Troll

I weren't gonna feed 'em mister, honest. Just kinda keep him as a pet. You know, 'cause they're fun to watch. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 04:19, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Deepfriedokra, I probably would've done the same. :) Judging by his comments he'll be back anyway... Glen 04:22, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
TBH, I was wondering if someone was missing a sock. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 04:24, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

2020Editor followed me home, Pa. Can I keep 'm? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:09, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Deepfriedokra, oh wow I only actually just saw this now! You did have fun on that talk page. Sorry you lost your pet but again I'm sure another will pop up! Thanks for staying on top of the article. Glen 18:55, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

The Signpost: 2 August 2020

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August 2020

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is LouiseFeb1974. Thank you. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:24, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Ritchie333, noted Richie cheers. Glen 14:07, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-32

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

  • All queries to the Wikidata Query Service failed between 17:50 and 17:59 UTC on Thursday 23 July. Some queries failed during a longer period. [22]
  • Interlanguage links were ordered incorrectly for the past few weeks. This problem was also mentioned in Tech News two weeks ago. The problem is now fixed. [23]
  • There is a problem with the global preferences for the "Use Legacy Vector" option. Developers are working on fixing it. [24]
  • A bug in the Wikibase extension had disabled the "move" and "create" types of protection in the main (Gallery) namespace on Wikimedia Commons. New protections could not be added, and existing protections were not enforced, allowing some page moves and page creations that should not have been possible. This has now been fixed. [25]

Changes later this week

  • The video player will change to be simpler and more modern. This week, the current beta feature will become the video player for everyone on most non-Wikipedia wikis. The old player will be removed. [26]
  • Users' global.js and global.css pages will now also be loaded on the mobile site. You can read documentation for how to avoid applying styles to the mobile skin. [27]
  • Advanced item In the MonoBook skin, the searchGoButton identifier is now searchButton. This may affect CSS and JS gadgets. Migration instructions can be found in T255953. This was previously mentioned in issue 27.
  • Advanced item Bot operators can use Pywikibot to regularly archive discussions. The behavior when the bot uses counter to prevent large archives was changed. [28]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from August 4. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from August 5. It will be on all wikis from August 6 (calendar).

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15:43, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Patrick Deneen (author)

Please be aware that there is a single editor who is posting non-germane, irrelevant political content to this entry, which lacks even rudimentary discussion of the intellectual and authorial ideas of the author. It presents a deeply skewed portrait intended to damage the subject’s reputation. That person should be blocked from altering this page. 45.52.233.3 00:44, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

I'll reply on your talk page. Glen (talk) 04:20, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Admin's Barnstar
This is for your outstanding performance in Wikipedia as an administrator. I appreciate your selfless effort in serving Wikipedia. Your efforts are really grateful. Your quick troubleshooting abilities are a gift for Wikipedia. Thank you. PATH SLOPU 15:01, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
Path slopu Thank you! Appreciated :) Glen (talk) 15:39, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for welcoming me!

Thank you for welcoming me Glen!

(ThePersonWhoEditsStuffAboutTech (talk) 02:54, 9 August 2020 (UTC))

Tech News: 2020-33

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • FileImporter and FileExporter became standard features on all Wikis during the first week of August. They help you transfer files from local wikis to Wikimedia Commons with the original file information and history intact. [29]

Problems

  • The mobile skin displays a message at the bottom of the page about who edited last. This message showed raw wikitext. This has now been fixed. Some messages in Structured Discussions and content translation may still appear as raw wikitext. Developers are working on it. [30]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from August 11. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from August 12. It will be on all wikis from August 13 (calendar).

Future changes

  • All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on September 1. This is planned between 13:30 and 15:30 UTC. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks. [31][32]

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16:06, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

91.250.55.155

Hello Glen, please stop the IP also at his/her talk page. Regards --Serols (talk) 10:12, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Serols, got it thanks Serols. Glen (talk) 10:13, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Too good to be true

And they just have me a barnstar, too good to be... and also ironical Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 18:03, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Synoman Barris, haha I did see that. Just take it :) Glen (talk) 18:04, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
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