User talk:Giantsshoulders

Hi Giantsshoulders--

I see you've been doing some major editing to the Canna (plant) article. You note that there are two major (and somewhat differing) classifications of the genus. It would be very helpful if you could include publication citations of these two treatments in the article. MrDarwin 14:26, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Giantsshoulders 16:06, 5 September 2006 (UTC) Citations added to the main Canna article.

Thanks! I've worked on this article in the past but I don't have a copy of Tanaka's revision so I never edited any of the taxonomic part. One note though: I see you have also been editing the species articles, e.g., Canna indica. Please note that, unlike zoological names, the author citations for botanical names include the combining author as well as the basionym author, e.g.: Canna indica var. sanctae-rosae (Kraenzl.) Tanaka. You should be able to get the names from either IPNI or Tropicos. MrDarwin 16:23, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

--Giantsshoulders 13:09, 8 September 2006 (UTC) Thanks, I wasn't aware of the authors requirement, are they OK now?

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Category:Canna

Regarding this category, it's redundant with Category:Cannaceae because the family is monotypic and has no other genera. It is therefore unnecessary and I will nominate it for deletion again. Cheers, --Rkitko ^(talk) 13:00, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Question about contributions

Following on the above work, I looked through your contributions and another user's contributions (CannaCollector) and wondered if you might be using two accounts. The contributions are similar including the language used when creating a new article ("ORIGINAL"). Forgive me if this is not the case, but it is against Wikipedia policy to use sockpuppets. If you'd like, I believe they can merge one user account into the other. Cheers, --Rkitko ^(talk) 14:19, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes, they and a couple of others including at least one IP appear to be one, a check user run to see if they were Brya socks already confirmed they use the same IP, see Brya's talk page for more information. However, the various accounts don't appear to be attempting to hide anything like the fact that they are sock puppets, or using the accounts to hide anything or double their voting or anything at all. KP Botany 21:22, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

True, it's not a sockpuppet situation, but it is mighty confusing and Wikipedia policy is that one editor should only have one account unless for a very specific reason (like a Bot account or one instance of another user running an account to host all the userboxes). So if they are indeed all the same editor, the accounts should be merged. --Rkitko ^(talk) 02:13, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

I have both accounts because I can never remember user names and passwords, and as I post from several locations I refer to locally written down details. I have no problem with them being merged, I'll just make an effort to get better organised. I was not aware of the term sockpuppet and it's implications until this message. How do I get the accounts merged? Giantsshoulders 15:47, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I assumed that was the case, that you simply used different accounts because you lost a password or whatever, as I've done the same thing, but didn't want to quite say that. I don't know how you get them merged. I will ask and find out from a brand new and eager admin. This will resolve the issue. KP Botany 19:33, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for responding. That's what I assumed as well. For future reference, Wikipedia can always retrieve your password. When you get to the login screen, enter your username and select "E-mail password" and it should be mailed to you quickly so you can log in. I'm not sure how they're merged either, but we'll figure it out! Do you have any other accounts you want merged in? Is Jumping Jack Flash (talk · contribs) also yours? Best, --Rkitko ^(talk) 20:10, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Rkitko. I asked User:Acalamari to let us know how it is done and do the dirty work when Acalamari gets a free moment. KP Botany 20:16, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Acalamari is clueless, and Acalamari is a careful searcher. I will ask a more experienced admin. At this point I'm more curious, because I believe it has been done. Until such point, we just ask Giantsshoulders that you simply maintain the one account, this user name, and add this user name to the one IP account that you use. I'm not concerned about your using multiple accounts because you have not attempted to hide any such usage, and you have not done anything that sockpuppets often do. I had not heard of sock puppets until Wikipedia, either. They are accounts created solely for the purpose of supporting another account in some way. For example, if I nominated an article for deletion and a lot of people disagreed with me about the deletion, I might create another account and vote in the article for deletion to support myself using the sock puppet account. For now, there is no concern, though.

We are discussing the categories question at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Plants. Feel free to join us if you have any comments, but the issue will be decided and sorted out, and when it is I will help you recategorize, and I am certain Rkitko will also, should that be necessary.

Thank you for the excellent work you are doing on the cultivars. Although we had a major disagreement about the inclusion of the one statement on the Maas article, I understand that it is sometimes difficult if you look at plants from either a horticultural perspective or botanical to cross to the other side. Your work on the cultivars is very good and important to Wikipedia. Maybe we can pick a really good one about a well known Canna to get to good article, then featured article status for the Main Page? I will be glad to help you, if you can find a good one, and other botany editors will also. It is a nice reward when you've worked hard in a specific area of plants to be able to promote them to some of the best of Wikipedia, although it is a lot of work and can be very frustrating, also. KP Botany 04:29, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

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Having created the image and donated it, what else do I have to do? Please get sensible!

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Consider this a first warning for your personal attacks on another user at the Talk:Canna (plant) page. I have asked another user to look into the images, make a decision, and post on the article talk page. User:Muhammad Mahdi Karim is working hard to provide good images for articles on wikipedia. You could have helped, in addition to showing that you had the sort of expertise necessary to help with putting appropriate images into articles, by speaking in a manner that showed knowledge or anything besides childish name calling.

what sort of idiot are you

morons who have a pretty picture

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--KP Botany (talk) 22:14, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

I accept that I became incensed when I saw what was being perpetrated on an article in which I have invested much effort. The image is of an unknown cultivar with no merit as a garden plant. I cannot believe that anybody would do such a thing to an article on roses, so why should Canna be any different? When the name hybrida was foisted as a valid Canna term I admit that I lost my rag at this gross level of ignorance being perpetrated on what I, and other Canna authorities, consider to be the definitive Canna article. The person concerned only had to read the article, and its associated articles on Canna species and cultivars to realise that this was not a good idea. However, I am now calmed down enough to discuss the matter reasonably. Giantsshoulders (talk) 07:40, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

As I am now banned from contributing to the articles that I created, I have decided to abandon Wikipedia to its own destiny. Already, seeing a pathetic hybrid photograph headlining the genus I have now recognise when the circumstance when the inmates have taken over the asylum! Nobody with any Canna knowledge or experience would sanction such a photograph, only a self-opinionated, ignorant, generalist would think that it served the genus at all. I am just embarrassed to see that photograph on the Canna page that I created. What damage are you planning on the other 20 or so other associated pages that I created? I don't think that I want to know! Sorry, I don't need the pain. Goodbye. Giantsshoulders (talk) 20:43, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

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