User talk:Geardona/Archive 1

Archive 1

Your submission at Articles for creation: 1970 Berrechid Royal Air Maroc Caravelle crash (November 19)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DoubleGrazing was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:56, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Geardona! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:56, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:1970 Berrechid Royal Air Maroc Caravelle crash has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:1970 Berrechid Royal Air Maroc Caravelle crash. Thanks! DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:05, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: 1970 Berrechid Royal Air Maroc Caravelle crash has been accepted

1970 Berrechid Royal Air Maroc Caravelle crash, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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Good faith on that IP?

They're most likely a sock of a banned user by the name of ProfessorJane. I don't think assuming good faith on someone whose behavior matches the one of a banned user is the right call. LilianaUwU ^{(talk / contributions)} 22:58, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Alright, if this is a persistent issue I was unaware of it. Geardona (talk) 23:02, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Voting for the WikiProject Military History newcomer of the year and military historian of the year awards for 2023 is now open!

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Revert

I think this editor is actually working in good faith on the article, if you scan down the history a bit. Joyous! Noise! 01:31, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

oh my

i seem to be badgering right now, ill leave a welcome/apology Geardona (talk) 01:32, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Been there. Had to do that. Will probably do it again. Joyous! Noise! 01:41, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Yep, I seem to occasionally, when RCPing, move fast and break things. Geardona (talk) 02:02, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Reason why i removed the channel sections in the japan page

It just looked poorly written

Lost television broadcast

Remove it & try to rewrite the sections Zuper-kun (talk) 16:36, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

Also

Do research on the survival status of japanese television from 1940 to the 1980s or the 1990s Zuper-kun (talk) 16:37, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

Alright, I believe you, just add an edit summary next time. Geardona (talk) 02:47, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Host welcome

Dear Geardona,

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Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 14:39, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Hello,

About the Meadow Walker post, I’m sorry if that was a mistake. I added an update on her marriage status, which ended just recently in 2023. If the edit made it look like it meant deceased status, then I’m sorry. Yassingtondc (talk) 04:57, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

I saw the update on Meadow’s personal instagram page. I do not know how to cite things as I am a very new user. If you’re willing to help me on that then I would be very happy. Thank you! Yassingtondc (talk) 04:58, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Hello,

The "cite" button should work for all reliable sources. Try putting the link into the generate function. Wikipedia has very high standards for living people, due to legal to issues, so it has to be very well sourced.

If needed see also:

Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons

Help:Referencing for beginners

Wikipedia:Teahouse

Happy editing! Geardona (talk) 05:03, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Ah, thank you so much @Geardona! I really appreciate that :) Yassingtondc (talk) 05:04, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

No problem, enjoy editing! Geardona (talk) 05:05, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Rollback

Hi Geardona. After reviewing your request, I have enabled rollback on your account. Please keep the following things in mind while using rollback:

• Being granted rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle or Ultraviolet. It just adds a [Rollback] button next to a page's latest live revision - that's all. It does not grant you any additional "status" on Wikipedia, nor does it change how Wikipedia policies apply to you.
• Rollback should be used to revert clear and unambiguous cases of vandalism only. Never use rollback to revert good faith edits.
• Rollback should never be used to edit war, and it should never be used in a content-related dispute to restore the page to your preferred revision. If rollback is abused or used for this purpose or any other inappropriate purpose, the rights will be revoked.
• Use common sense. If you're not sure about something, ask!

If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into trouble or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! Fastily 11:41, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Undo

Hello, I would like to ask why did you undo my edit's, if you don't have a good reason then please do not interfere. Camillz (talk) 14:46, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Can you please link to the article/diffs? Entirely my bad if they are ok. Geardona (talk) 14:49, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Ah, I see, are the sources bad, or do you just need more? Your edits are most likely ok, give me 1 moment. Geardona (talk) 14:51, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Alright, I restored your version, please add an edit summary next time. Geardona (talk) 14:52, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

my apologies, and thank you! Camillz (talk) 14:52, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

yes I'm just working on the page, I deleted sources that I didn't use, as in like didn't reference. Camillz (talk) 14:52, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Of course, this is the correct way to deal with this, thank you for reaching out. Geardona (talk) 14:53, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Revert II

Hello, I would like to know the reason behind you reverting my edits in Sauxillanges commune article. VecaisG (talk) 17:05, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Ok, give me a moment to review my edit. Geardona (talk) 15:07, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Hello,

Your edit was undone due to

1. Verifiability: no sources were cited.

2.Point of view issues the article appeared to be slightly promotional

3. WP:NOTGUIDE issues.

If you think I made any mistakes let me know! I appreciate your contributions nonetheless Geardona (talk) 15:12, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Sorry about the sources. It's just that I'm used to typing all the sentences first and then I slowly start overlooking where to put sources, fonts and grammar.

I don't quite understand the point about it being promotional though.

In my opinion its possible that I overwrote the information cause its just too much but nothing really repeats there.

Let me know what I can change about the situation in there.

Sincerely, VecaisG VecaisG (talk) 15:16, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Stub Barnstar
	I want you to know that your contributions are valued and so are you! You've done an excellent job sorting stubs. Just be careful you don't sort articles to wrong place. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 18:29, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! Geardona (talk) 22:58, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Repetitive tag/Copyedit of Obi

Hi, I saw that you tagged Obi (martial arts) in-use for copyedit. I was also working on copyediting the article (my first pass is ready) and wondered how far you'd progressed, if you'd like to collaborate on it or something? To deal with the repetition in the article, I feel that it might benefit from a lot of layout work, and possibly combining the multiple tables. – Reidgreg (talk) 18:14, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Oh hello,

I am on the section about Ninjutsu, submit your edit, (I barely started). When I see yours we can look at the tables. Geardona (talk) 18:21, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Okay. I guess we're working up the same list, I also started some on Coulter counter. Layout problems there, too, I shifted a lot of material between the first two body sections (offline). – Reidgreg (talk) 18:46, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

oh my, i have published my edit there already, i will move on to Dakota Access Pipeline protests Geardona (talk) 19:07, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

No prob. I should really pull the repetitive tag before starting. I posted some work on Obi, will take a better look at tables. Reidgreg (talk) 19:18, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

alright, try using {GOCEinuse} in a edit before the main edit Geardona (talk) 19:45, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

I've finished with Obi if you'd like to give it a look, I'm sure it could be further improved. –  Reidgreg (talk) 21:07, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Your edit of Aviation safety#Transport comparisons

Hi Geardona! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your edits and participation in the GOCE editing drive this month! I just want to point out something about your recent edit to Aviation safety#Transport comparisons.

I think this section was originally tagged for copy editing due to awkward phrasing. However, a few of your deletions changed the meaning / reading of the sentences, and one citation ended up in the wrong place. These small errors are really hard (or impossible) for later editors to notice and fix! Our goal is to improve clarity while maintaining (or improving!) accuracy :)

Cheers :) Jayowyn (talk) 00:57, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

 Thanks Geardona (talk) 04:24, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Answering edit requests

Hello there! Something I like to do is review the queue of requested edits, and I saw that you resolved a request submitted at Talk:Microwave. I'd like to bestow upon you a kitten for helping others!

If you ever run into another edit request and wish to fulfill it, one thing to help out editors that like to review requested edits is to add the parameter answered=yes to the edit request template. I've gone ahead and done this for you. This parameter applies to all of the protection-specific templates (e.g {{Edit semi-protected}}, {{Edit extended-protected}}, etc), and it serves to remove the request from the queue. A fantastic script that streamlines this process with a slick graphical interface is the Edit Request Tool by Terasail.

I appreciate you being here on Wikipedia, and happy editing! —Sirdog (talk) 01:37, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

 Thanks Geardona (talk to me?) 02:07, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

January 2024

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, articles should not be moved without good reason. They should have a name that is both accurate and intuitive. Wikipedia has some guidelines in place to help with this. Generally, a page should only be moved to a new title if the current name doesn't follow these guidelines. Also, if a page move is being discussed, consensus needs to be reached before anybody moves the page. If you would like to experiment with page titles and moving, please use the test Wikipedia. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:23, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Hello, the company was renamed according to a reliable source, the second and third moves were due to a misspelling and my computer deciding to move the page mid rename. (mostly a mistake on my part) Could you delete the unnecessary redirects? Geardona (talk to me?) 00:25, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

I'll look into it but we usually retain redirects that come from page moves unless they are nominated at WP:RFD. But if there are clear errors and this is a newly created article, it might be possible. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:28, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Specifically the one ending in LL is unnecessary and is/was mistake. Geardona (talk to me?) 00:29, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Would fall under CSD G6 Geardona (talk to me?) 00:31, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Geardona,

If this was a newly created article that was just being moved from Draft space to main space, I think it would be okay to delete redirect mistakes under speedy deletion criteria but this is a 15 year old article and I haven't seen CSD G6 applied in instances like this. It'll need to go to WP:RFD although it would be a bundled nomination. Hey, on the positive side, you'll get an opportunity to learn how to set up a deletion discussion. Twinkle helps with this. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:35, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

alright, is there no good criteria for "redirects created in error"? Geardona (talk to me?) 00:37, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Ok at RFD

Could you help me with the edit request on the talk page (the image) I am looking to find the copyright status but am new to the area of copyright.

Thank you! Geardona (talk to me?) 00:49, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Teahouse

May I suggest that you are as yet too inexperienced a Wikipedia editor to be answering queries at the Teahouse. A few of your answers there seem rather misleading. Deor (talk) 21:23, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Ok Geardona (talk to me?) 22:49, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

 Thanks for your feedback! Geardona (talk to me?) 22:55, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Miraj Raha (talk) 16:53, 11 January 2024 (UTC) Please guide me to the appropriate resources for editing and linking. Also fire up some suggestions if you need to.

N.B- I am a novice in Wikipedia.

Thanks.

Miraj Raha (talk) 16:58, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

wp:teahouse should help you! Geardona (talk to me?) 17:17, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

P.S I need a starting place.

Just a quick explanation...

as to the difference between a level 4 warning and a level 4im warning; the former is a final warning, but the latter is an only warning, and so shouldn't be given after a final warning. Rather, a 4im warning is for egregious vandalism (an example I can think of is strongly racist language and terminology); if someone continues to vandalise after that, you can report them straight to AIV. I hope this helps! Best, Patient Zero^talk 00:56, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

 Thanks why do people feel the need to mess with pages... sad. Geardona (talk to me?) 00:57, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

No worries! If ever you have any questions relating to anti-vandalism, my talk page is always open. :-) Patient Zero^talk 00:58, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

To answer your question? I think there can be a lot of reasons for that; a lot of the time we're dealing with schoolchildren who see that this is a site that anyone can edit and are therefore a bit curious, and on occasion we may come across long-term abusive users who may have all sorts going on in their personal lives that we shouldn't speculate on too much. I think some of these users can be pointed in the right direction with a bit of guidance (I've had vandals apologise to me before!), but sometimes people just want to disrupt the project, and it's up to us constructive editors to make sure that when people want to read about their favourite topics or things that have interested them in that immediate moment, that any disruption has been taken care of swiftly. Patient Zero^talk 01:03, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Retorical question Sorry! for you writing all that paragraph!  Thanks for writing it though. Geardona (talk to me?) 01:05, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

No need to apologise - I'm more than happy to help out. :-) Patient Zero^talk 01:06, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Quick question, how do you get RW patrol to be helpful? Geardona (talk to me?) 01:16, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

I use Huggle and Twinkle rather than RedWarn, so I'm just reading up on how it works... what do you mean by "helpful", exactly? Do you want the queue to show you more edits of a certain kind? Patient Zero^talk 01:20, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

It seems to not show edits very well, it redirects to a page, Im not sure if it is still up. Geardona (talk to me?) 01:23, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

I was correct, according to the page it is no longer functional. Geardona (talk to me?) 01:24, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

I see... do send the link over and I'll take a look; I've even downloaded RW so I can see what it looks like for myself, and I must say I'm impressed - I particularly like how easy it is to request OS or Trust and Safety, as I find it takes a long time to send emails considering the urgency of such matters! I think an update is due from what I am reading about it, too, so maybe that'll help. For now, I'd recommend using the regular recent changes patrol on here (left-hand side menu if you're on desktop), and clicking on the different filters to see if that helps you identify more disruptive edits. In my toolbox as well (on my user page), there is a link to see recent changes tagged with "possible self-promotion in userspace" - if you familiarise yourself with our speedy deletion criteria, namely G11 and U5, you can help by tagging the pages appropriately. :-) Patient Zero^talk 01:29, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

I have my standard filters, im waiting for WP:ultraviolet to release, (redwarn re-write) it seems to have a few issues as the team makes UV. Geardona (talk to me?) 01:32, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Good to hear you've familiarised yourself with those! I see; in that case I eagerly await its release, and may well end up using that routinely. Patient Zero^talk 01:35, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Best part is it does not require rollback, also do you have admin rights? As AIV is unresponsive. Geardona (talk to me?) 01:38, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

That's what I like about Twinkle too, although once you've got rollback I'd recommend Huggle - you do have to download a separate application, although it's a lot quicker! I am not an admin, I'm afraid; AIV does tend to have a bit of a backlog at this time of night, but if you're dealing with a particularly troublesome vandal it might not be a bad idea to ask on Discord if any admins are about? Patient Zero^talk 01:43, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Ill bring it up there real quick. Geardona (talk to me?) 01:45, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

That went... surprisingly well Geardona (talk to me?) 01:50, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

I'm glad to hear that! :-) Patient Zero^talk 02:06, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

I kind of dislike huggle (Used to have rollback, long story) didn't like the interface that much, so i changed to Wikipedia:AntiVandal I liked the interface better (have you tried it?) Geardona (talk to me?) 02:09, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

I haven't tried AntiVandal yet either! Would you recommend it over RedWarn/Twinkle? Patient Zero^talk 00:05, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Yes, but only for anti vandalism specifically, RW has more options. Geardona (talk to me?) 00:48, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Pending changes reviewer granted

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Being granted reviewer rights neither grants you status nor changes how you can edit articles. If you do not want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time.

See also:

• Wikipedia:Reviewing pending changes, the guideline on reviewing
• Wikipedia:Reviewing pending changes#Requirements to accept an edit, when to accept an edit
  

Extraordinary Writ (talk) 07:24, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

 Thanks A quick request as well, can you just keep an eye on me using the tool for a few days and give me any feedback you might have? Geardona (talk to me?) 11:51, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

GA close of Sulumbek of Sagopshi

Hi Geardona, please replace the GA nominee template at Talk:Sulumbek of Sagopshi with a new template per WP:GAN/I#R4, rather than editing the GAN template, it's not at the correct date. It would also help if you could add the article to the appropriate GA list. Best, CMD (talk) 07:08, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Geardona (talk to me?) 11:56, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

AFDs

Hello, Geardona,

I've noticed in several AFDs I reviewed, you commented "Soft Keep". I don't know what you mean by this term. This is not a term that is used in deletion discussions and you won't find it on any policy or guidelines page, believe me because I've searched and looked. There is "Soft Delete" in which an article is treated as a Proposed deletion and it is possible for an editor to request restoration at WP:REFUND. But there is no such thing as "Soft Keep". If you find a mention of this term, please let me know because I could not find it anywhere. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:08, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Hello,
Sorry about that! I assumed that that was an option! What I meant is it was on the line, so keep it with nothing against it being brought up again.

Sorry! Geardona (talk to me?) 12:46, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

FYI, my understanding is that the terms 'weak keep' & 'weak delete' are often used when (for example) an editor finds themselves on that side of the debate, but feels less strongly about the result. Best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 15:57, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Aleksandr Kamensky

Please be more careful with your edits. - Altenmann >talk 00:10, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Facepalm My bad. Geardona (talk to me?) 00:13, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Have It All

Hi there! I just wanted to make you aware that the consensus reached on Jesse’s talk page was that the information indicating that Have It All was an unreleased album should go on the page. I’m not sure why that anonymous user is insistent on removing this information, but at this point they are edit-warring and should be warned accordingly. Thanks! 2601:48:8100:6920:E5AE:3FFF:CB2:285 (talk) 19:09, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Alright, I will deal with it. Seems like I misread consensus there.  Thanks Geardona (talk to me?) 19:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! 2601:48:8100:6920:E5AE:3FFF:CB2:285 (talk) 20:18, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Yep, I have requested semi protection. It is difficult to differentiate ipv4 users sometimes! Geardona (talk to me?) 20:20, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Welcome to the drive

Welcome, welcome, welcome! I'm glad that you are joining the drive! Please, have a cup of WikiTea and go cite some articles. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 00:34, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

January 2024 GOCE drive award

		The (old school) League of Copy Editors Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Geardona for copy edits totaling over 30,000 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE January 2024 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Dhtwiki (talk) 01:09, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

WikiCup 2024 February newsletter

The 2024 WikiCup is off to a flying start, with 135 participants. This is the largest number of participants we have seen since 2017.

Our current leader is newcomer Generalissima (submissions), who has one FA on John Littlejohn (preacher) and 10 GAs and 12 DYKs mostly on New Zealand coinage and Inuit figures. Here are some more noteworthy scorers:

• AirshipJungleman29 (submissions), with one FA on Hö'elün, two GAs on Mongolia-related articles, and two DYKs;
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• MaranoFan (submissions), with one FA on Holidays (Meghan Trainor song), a nine-article FT on 30 (album), and two DYKs;
• Skyshifter (submissions), with one FA on OneShot and one DYK;
• Sammi Brie (submissions), with five GAs and five DYKs on television and radio stations;
• voorts (submissions) and Elli (submissions), both with one FA and one DYK each.

As a reminder, competitors may submit work for the first round until 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February, and the second round starts 1 March. Remember that only the top 64 scoring competitors will make it through to the second round; currently, competitors need at least 15 points to progress. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:58, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Test

Archive Now

Test 1 Geardona (talk to me?) 03:37, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

License tagging for File:Temnothorax Longispinosus Closeup.jpeg

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Jeffrey Katzenberg request

Hi Geardona, I was wondering if you'd had a chance to look at my response on the Talk:Jeffrey Katzenberg? Please let me know what you think. Cheers! BINK Robin (talk) 16:38, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

I have had a chance to look (not thoroughly), I was hoping for another editor to handle it (stepping back from edit requests), but I can work on it now. Geardona (talk to me?) 16:40, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

And Media-Wiki seems to have disabled pings for me, whenever you need me on a page that is not here, could you drop me a line here? Geardona (talk to me?) 16:46, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks so much for doing that! Will ping you here with any future messages. Appreciate your reviews. Cheers, BINK Robin (talk) 16:59, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Revert on University of Winnipeg

Hi Geardona, funny how our paths shall cross so soon after you passed my GAN (and thanks for completing it so quickly!). I was approached by AmanjLife23, who is one of my assigned mentees, about your revert of their edits on the University of Winnipeg article.

I've looked at their changes and your edit summary, and I presume the misunderstanding was that they didn't seem to provide sources to support their change? However, if you check the currently cited source itself, their edits are actually supported by the source. The page probably had changed/been updated by the university itself since the information was first added (for example, if you see this WebArchive capture of the page, the statistics are different from what they are now).

If there's no objection from you, I'll restore their edits, along with a bit of cleanup (adding archive links, punctuation, etc.). I'll also have a word with them about marking edits as minor, which they shouldn't have done in this case. Thanks! Liu1126 (talk) 12:39, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Ok, thanks! Its a small encyclopedia sometimes! Either way, I don't object, just maybe a little message about edit summaries would help. Sorry! (also mentoring is an amazing thing!)(we get a lot of subtle vandalism on PC, number changes and such) Geardona (talk to me?) 12:54, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

No worries, I also do a lot of countervandalism work, so I get yelled at a lot for doing the "wrong revert" too (I prefer Huggle over RedWarn though ;) ). Liu1126 (talk) 16:26, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Congratulations on the DYK nom! I just saw it, and it should be on the main page soon. (promoting it myself in a bit) Geardona (talk to me?) 13:05, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! This is the first time I've really focused on content creation instead of other WP:GNOMEish work, so it's quite exciting. Liu1126 (talk) 16:29, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Congratulations! A GA is a big bragging right accomplishment! Huggle requires rollback though so.. Geardona (talk to me?) 17:13, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

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So do you like the finished product at [[Shawna Kimbrell]]? Thanks for your help. Nirva20 (talk) 00:59, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

No problem! Its always fun to help out with content creation, Its a nice break from patrolling! Let me check! Geardona (talk to me?) 01:01, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

It is great! Good job! Geardona (talk to me?) 01:07, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Thank you very much! It is honestly quite fun! Geardona (talk to me?) 15:11, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

Are Afshars Turkic or Persian?

Afshar (Azerbaijani: Əfşar افشار; Turkish: Avşar, Afşar; Turkmen: Owşar اوْوشار; Persian: افشار, romanized: Afshār) is a tribe of Oghuz Turkic origin, that split into several groups in Iran, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Turkey and Afghanistan. During the Seljuk conquests of the 11th century, they moved from Central Asia into the Middle East. They are noted in history for being one of the Qizilbash tribes that helped establish the Safavid dynasty of Iran, and for being the source of descent of Iran's Afsharid dynasty. Nader Shah, who became the monarch of Iran in 1736, was from the Qereklu clan (Persian: قرخلو) of Afshars. Afshars mainly inhabit Iran, where they remain a largely nomadic group.

The terms "Persian" and "Iranian" are frequently used on the Battle of Karnal page. This is not true. AzerbaijaniQizilbash (talk) 16:23, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

References please? Geardona (talk to me?) 16:25, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Afshar people AzerbaijaniQizilbash (talk) 16:35, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Your review of Draft:Taiwan and the United Nations

Hi! Thank you again for reviewing Draft:Taiwan and the United Nations. I already replied to you on my talk page, but just in case you don't see that, I wanted to let you and the copyright investigator(s) know that the "copyrighted" work in question was almost all taken from China and the United Nations verbatim. I believe the blog site had taken its content from that original article. The intention here, of course, was to move the relevant content from that article to this new article, as to organize the topics in a clearer way, consistent with other related articles. Let me know if it makes sense to restore that section, or if a major paraphrasing is still required. I welcome your thoughts on how best to proceed here to get the draft published. Butterdiplomat (talk) 04:21, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Ah, I am on mobile as of right now, so I can look over that in a few hours when I return to my laptop. Thanks for informing me! Geardona (talk to me?) 11:39, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

@Butterdiplomat: Ok, I am going to leave it to the copyright people to figure it out, and I will look over it after, aside from the copyright craziness it looks decent enough to be published, just going to wait for their word. Currently the article you are trying to make is a redirect, will it stay that way or be usurped by this? If it is a standalone article in place of the redirect I will need someone to delete the redirect to move it into the proper place. If it is going to replace the current article at the target of the redirect an admin will need to delete the page and some other procedure will need to take place before that. I would note if the content on your draft is copied from within wikipedia, it needs to be attributed as such. (link to policy Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia) Thank you for reaching out! Geardona (talk to me?) 12:47, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, understood on the copyright process. The draft is meant to replace the redirect, but not the target of the redirect. The plan was to move most of the relevant content (currently under copyright investigation) from that target to the new draft. Butterdiplomat (talk) 16:55, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

No problem, I just want to be sure on copyright matters. Ping me when it is resolved!  Thanks Geardona (talk to me?) 19:38, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

WikiCup 2024 March newsletter

The first round of the 2024 WikiCup ended at 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February. Everyone with at least 30 points moved on to Round 2, the highest number of points required to advance to the second round since 2014. Due to a six-way tie for the 64th-place spot, 67 contestants have qualified for Round 2.

The following scorers in Round 1 all scored more than 300 points:

• Generalissima (submissions), who has 916 points mostly from one FA on John Littlejohn (preacher), 15 GAs, and 16 DYKs on a variety of topics including New Zealand coinage and Inuit figures, in addition to seven reviews
• Vami_IV (submissions), who has 790 points from two FAs on Felix M. Warburg House and Doom (2016 video game), two GAs, one DYK, and 11 reviews
• AirshipJungleman29 (submissions), who has 580 points from one FA on Hö'elün, two GAs on Mongolia-related articles, two DYKs, and five reviews
• Sammi Brie (submissions), who has 420 points mostly from nine GAs and seven DYKs on television and radio stations
• MaranoFan (submissions), who has 351 points from one FA on Holidays (Meghan Trainor song), a nine-article FT on 30 (album), and three DYKs
• Skyshifter (submissions), who has 345 points from one FA on OneShot, one DYK and two reviews

In this newsletter, the judges would like to pay a special tribute to Vami_IV (submissions), who unfortunately passed away this February. At the time of his death, he was the second-highest-scoring competitor. Outside the WikiCup, he had eight other featured articles, five A-class articles, eight other good articles, and two Four Awards. Vami also wrote an essay on completionism, a philosophy in which he deeply believed. If you can, please join us in honoring his memory by improving one of the articles on his to-do list.

Remember that any content promoted after 27 February but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:40, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

March 2025

This user has been blocked because a TimeChecker investigation has shown that they have [are going to] abusively used [use] time travel in order to operate one or more user accounts (WP:CLOCKPUPPETS). Information concerning this block has been retroactively removed from the timestream; therefore the Chronosight Team or the High Council of Gallifrey must be consulted before this block can be removed. Administrators undoing Chronosight blocks without permission from a Chronosighter risk causing a temporal paradox, and will immediately have their administrator rights removed and an indefinite site ban as an emergency measure. By decree of the High Council.

Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 02:05, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Haliburtonian

Reiterating their behaviour. I suggest immediate block. Kind regards 14 novembre (talk) 21:07, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Already at AIV. Geardona (talk to me?) 21:08, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

@Geardona Sorry but I am a bit ignorant in these things, could you kindly explain what AIV means? Thanks 14 novembre (talk) 21:10, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Anyway I see the vandal has been blocked 14 novembre (talk) 21:10, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

User talk:Ponyo is the place to go Geardona (talk to me?) 21:11, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

@Geardona Thank you very much. 14 novembre (talk) 21:12, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply was really busy with that LTA, AIV is Administrator intervention against vandalism. Geardona (talk to me?) 13:16, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Kind regards 14 novembre (talk) 13:20, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

hi

hello everybody, how to find my page Angela Momandian? Angel2019000 (talk) 09:18, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Hello! it should be here Angela Momandian but it has not been created yet! Try reading This guide and This guideline before creating your draft. I would also recommend asking future questions at this page. Happy editing! Geardona (talk to me?) 12:39, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

CSM message

• 122.2.79.174 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
• 36.255.62.198 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)

Their behavior is similar if you look at their contributions. Should we treat them as socks? CSMention269 (talk) 13:02, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Yes, they geolocate to similar places as well. Geardona (talk to me?) 13:11, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Kindly inform this to AIV so that admins may note on this. CSMention269 (talk) 13:23, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Also they may attempt again to do this stuff with other IPs, not yet revealed though. CSMention269 (talk) 13:24, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

I am aware, they were both already there. please also report them on sight.  Thanks for your help. Repetition is likely. Geardona (talk to me?) 15:25, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

New page reviewer granted

Hi Geardona. Your account has been added to the "New page reviewers" user group. Please check back at the permissions page in case your user right is time-limited or probationary. This user group allows you to review new pages through the Curation system and mark them as patrolled, tag them for maintenance issues, or nominate them for deletion. The list of articles awaiting review is located at the New Pages Feed. New page reviewing is vital to maintaining the integrity of the encyclopedia. If you have not already done so, you must read the tutorial at New Pages Review, the linked guides and essays, and fully understand the deletion policy. If you need any help or want to discuss the process, you are welcome to use the new page reviewer talk page or ask via the NPP Discord. In addition, please remember:

• Be nice to new editors. They are usually not aware that they are doing anything wrong. Do make use of the message feature when tagging pages for maintenance so that they are aware.
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• Accuracy is more important than speed. Take your time to patrol each page, including checking for copyright violations using Earwig's copyright violation detector, checking for duplicate articles, and evaluating sources (both in the article, and if needed, via a Google search) for compliance with the general notability guideline.
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The reviewer right does not change your status or how you can edit articles. If you no longer want this user right, you also may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. In cases of abuse or persistent inaccuracy of reviewing, or long-term inactivity, the right may be withdrawn at administrator discretion. If you can read any languages other than English, please add yourself to the list of new page reviewers with language proficiencies. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:11, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

February 2024 WikiProject Unreferenced articles backlog drive – award

		Citation Barnstar
		This award is given in recognition to Geardona for collecting more than 5 points during the WikiProject Unreferenced articles's FEB24 backlog drive. Your contributions played a crucial role in sourcing 14,300 unsourced articles during the drive. Thank you so much for participating and helping to reduce the backlog! – – DreamRimmer (talk) 17:58, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Trouted

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

Hey Geardona, I see above that you are a new trial member of the NPP team, welcome aboard! That queue is under constant backlog, more members are always needed.

I just wanted to make sure you are following the protocol correctly. You tagged the redirect Safe Space Radio with a CSD criteria—but might have noticed on closer inspection that the target page mentioned Safe Space Radio in the lead, and that there is a whole section Anne Hallward § Safe Space Radio in the article. That wasn't an issue, I disputed it and another editor came by and removed the tag.

I do want to point out though that when you speedied it, you also marked it as patrolled when instead, while patrolling and marking something for speedy deletion, pages should not be marked as patrolled. The only deletion process that does mark something as patrolled is nominating something at any XfD, like WP:AfD. You can follow the flow chart on the WP:NPP tutorial page for more info.

Again, happy to have a new member of the NPP team and looking forward to seeing more of your contributions on the project. If you have any questions, never hesitate to ask.

Cheers, microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 14:34, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Wow, I cannot read, sorry! Thanks for the tip about marking as patrolled! Geardona (talk to me?) 23:09, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

No worries, we're always learning. Happy to welcome you to today's lucky 10,000. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 01:32, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

As a note for the future, if I do any more (bad) tagging, don't worry about disputing it, you have my blessing to just remove it. Geardona (talk to me?) 05:08, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

RE: Pooper

Hi @Geardona, I saw you deleted Pooper as a redirect to Wooper under the assumption it was vandalism. This was not actually vandalism, as if you read the article, it discusses in its Reception how Paldean Wooper gained the affectionate nickname of "Pooper" from fans. Given this Redirect actually has navigational merit because of this, and it does not interfere with other redirects, I'll likely recreate the redirect later unless you have any objections. I do just want to clear up this confusion for now, however, since I do understand how it appears to be vandalism from a glance. Hope this clears things up. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 11:08, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Ok... Strangest "loving nickname" I have ever seen. I would say maybe don't re-create it just yet, bring it up with the deleting admin on their talk page first, for policy reasons. You can say that I don't mind having it as a redirect. Although wiktionary does list other meanings https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pooper#English Geardona (talk to me?) 14:51, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, fair enough. I'll take a look at the alternative meanings given none were redirects before on Wikipedia, as if any are more important to use as a primary redirect, that should likely take precedent. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 19:28, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Draft:K.Annamalai

Hai User:Geardona, I have made improvements to the article based on feedback from others in previous reviews and left a brief note on the article’s talk page here. Should this be considered an endorsement for the DRV? Thank you. - Vaikunda Raja (talk) 04:14, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

lemme check Geardona (talk to me?) 04:17, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

GA reviews

Please note that per WP:GAN/I#R3, all GA reviews must contain a source spot-check; simply copy-pasting the article title into Earwig, which has significant flaws, is not sufficient. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 05:56, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Ok, gimme a minute. Geardona (talk to me?) 05:57, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Ok, after spot checking 3 of the english sources, 10,6 and 2. I see no verifiability issues, no CLOP etc. Geardona (talk to me?) 06:09, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Going forward, let's try to do that before finishing the review? I can't find where "Another method, only considering fossil evidence, led to the most recent estimate for the split between E. akayima and E. murinus, placing it between 5 and 11 million years ago." is supported in source 6; could you help? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:35, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Quick question about categorisation

Hey, thanks for adding a tracking category to my redirect here. I do understand what's the purpose of it, but on my main wiki things are bit different... I made several more protein names/synonyms redirects, can I simply add this code to all of them?
{{Redirect category shell| {{R from alternative scientific name}} }}
The "alternative scientific name" speaks for itself, but am I free to do this "category shell" thing, whatever it does? Also, how come Category:Printworthy redirects was added?

Thanks for the help, trivial stuff for experienced editor probly, but I would really appreciate it for my future endavours! InternetowyGołąb (talk) 22:46, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

No problem, the redirect category shell gives the category’s that nice box around them, as for being print worthy, that just means that having them in a book version of Wikipedia is helpful. Thanks for asking, and feel free to let me know if you need additional help! Geardona (talk to me?) 00:42, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Oh and another thing, the shell adds some technical stuff, like page protection automatically going to the redirect from the page. Geardona (talk to me?) 03:07, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Gerber tube/Butyrometer

Butyrometers is the formal name, they are commonly called "Gerber tubes", surely «alternative» not «incorrect». — Saltmarsh^☮ 07:07, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

ah, go ahead and change it to {{R from alternative name}}, and maybe {{R from more specific name}}? Geardona (talk to me?) 07:09, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

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Draft:Yuuki (Sword Art Online)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Be careful, do not accept drafts easily. That article just recently got merged due to the outcome of afd and the guy still ignore admin advices. [1] [2] GreenishPickle! (🔔) 14:20, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, hard to tell with stuff like that. Geardona (talk to me?) 16:20, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

@Greenish Pickle!, @Geardona Hello, according to what Daniel told me, it was to present a draft, only my question is how is it presented for the elimination review? The dogcat (talk) 16:54, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

@Geardona, @Greenish Pickle! Well, the truth is, I thought that was how the drafts were presented, but maybe I was wrong, sorry because I still don't know much. The dogcat (talk) 17:00, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

You need to file for deletion review, just like what Daniel said. If that article was recreated, It will be redirected again. (Personal attack removed)GreenishPickle! (🔔) 22:31, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Len Talmy

You asked me to ping you when I had made the edit to Len's page. Hilnay (talk) 01:02, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Yep, I have made a few edits, and will look at it again in a couple hours. Geardona (talk to me?) 01:17, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Trouted

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: breaking Connecticut Di (they-them) (talk) 04:42, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Smash!

You've been squished by a whale!
Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you did something really silly.

Nah, let's take this 1 step further. Queen of Hearts ^she/_they^talk/_stalk (please ping on reply) 04:44, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Who's taking me to the stocks? Geardona (talk to me?) 04:48, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Huge removal at Kentucky

Did you really mean to remove 100k of text from Kentucky? I tried to restore it, but I can't because of certain sources appear to be censored. --David Tornheim (talk) 05:26, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Nope, IDK whats happening, I set max diff size to 150? let me try, Sorry! Geardona (talk to me?) 05:29, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Yeah - whatever you're doing, Geardona - please check your changes before saving. Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 05:31, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

I did, and thats the thing, none of that was there. It was just the bad parameters being removed, then I get pinged on the discord, and this happened. Im going to not use JWB while I try to work this out. Geardona (talk to me?) 05:36, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Good idea. Something is awry. Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 05:38, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

I hate to bring this up again, but max diff size was 150 bytes, and nothing (abnormal) showed up at all in the save window. Geardona (talk to me?) 05:43, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

I use AWB but not JWB so I don't know what to say except that something akin to a bug occurred. Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 05:56, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

If you want to review the settings I was using, they are available at Special:diff/1214794968 Geardona (talk to me?) 06:06, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Did you ever figure out what caused those problems? I don't know the software JWB at all, so I can't comment on the settings. But I might be interested in looking at the piece of code that you think made the mistake. My interest is mostly in that it would help me increase familiarity of how bots and other MediaWiki code work. --David Tornheim (talk) 00:59, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

As of right now, I’m checking the REGEX, and trying to build up the courage to try again, I think it’s an internal thing maybe? I am considering if it happens again pinging the devs, but idk. Geardona (talk to me?) 01:05, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Can you show me the regex? I know a little about regex from grep, awk, some other unix commands, and maybe a programming language that uses them (and Word for Windows!)--not its use here--but willing to learn. Are you doing a find regex#1 and replace with regex#2? If so, can you just tell me the exact strings -and- the command, function that processes them to do the find/replace? If you think you know what the problem is, can you give the before string(s) and the after string(s) and why you believe the original string(s) did what they did? I understand if this is the wrong place to discuss. Just point me to the right place. Sometimes trying to explain a problem like that can help you figure it out. --David Tornheim (talk) 01:18, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

The regex is located in User:Geardona/JWB-settings.json under the name “USCB2” that will have my full settings. Geardona (talk to me?) 01:58, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Okay. Although, I don't know how JWB works, I'll do my best to guess for now. I see multiple regex's:

Search: "insource:Bureau insource:/[|][ ]*last[0-9]?[ ]*=[ ]*Bureau/ insource:/[|][ ]*first[0-9]?[ ]*=[ ]*US Census/"

Replace 1: ".[lL]ast=Bureau"

Replace 2: ".[fF]irst=US Census"

Replace 3: ".[lL]ast[\d=]+Bureau"

Replace 3: ".[fF]irst[\d=]+US Census"

The last three replaces use the Regex flag "g", and the first replace does not. What does the "g" flag do? Is it possible that it's doing a recursive replace, where multiple replaces are happening, or does it make sure that only at most one replace happens?

If it is anything like the regex I use in Word, if you put a "*" anywhere in there, it might do a maximal match rather than a minimal and select everything. Does the "*" bind to the "[ ]" only?

Where is the description of the rules for the REGEX for JWB? Different programs use characters like "/", "[", "?", and "+" to have different meanings. Without a definition, no way can I parse it correctly.

Have you tried creating a test page with all the content from Kentucky (or Connecticut) and running JWB on that page and that page only, and then messing with the REGEX's to see if you can figure out what it is doing? --David Tornheim (talk) 02:50, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

The g just makes the string “global”, so the first does not need it iirc. See regex101.com it’s a website I use for testing. I have not touched JWB since yesterday, but I will do that soonif I remember  Thanks (will respond more fully later. Geardona (talk to me?) 03:41, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Which "flavor" do you pick when you use it? I tried WP:REGEX, which linked to WP:AutoWikiBrowser/Regular_expression. Have you read that? Do you know if that applies?

I just looked at WP:JWB and it has a section User:Joeytje50/JWB#Using_regex. I'll take a look at that and see if that helps me figure out any possible bugs in your strings. Did you read that section carefully?

--David Tornheim (talk) 04:02, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

I have checked (and slightly modified) all of my strings, I have read both, but it’s been about a month, so a re-read can’t hurt. If I recall correctly JWB and AWB REGEX as super similar. Geardona (talk to me?) 04:22, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

That's good.

I had assumed that with this huge task you must be a veteran editor with a lot of experience, but it looks like you have only been here since November, but somehow amassed 6,000 edits. Is that from using bots or JWB? Do you work for WMF? Did someone assign you this task and/or agree to help supervise it? Or are, or have you been, doing this all on your own without the regular advice and guidance of more experienced editors (and MediaWiki experts)? If you are not working under guidance, I would really slow down and see if you can get someone more experienced to help. I have a lot of experience on Wikipedia, but not on coding or the use of JWB and MediaWiki scripts and bots--I am learning. --David Tornheim (talk) 04:44, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Second Post reply: I tried out the string "/[|][ ]*last[0-9]?[ ]*=[ ]*Bureau/" and that seemed to work okay. However, on closer inspection, I see there are three "Insource:" definitions. It's not clear to me how the search regex's match up with the replace regex's, and if you are not going to help me understand the relationship, it's not worth me spending any more time on this.

Also, you are combining so many different search-replaces in one huge file, it's really not surprising that this thing did something unexpected. I would recommend you run your tests on a much smaller population (of pages), by first starting with a single page in your userspace (or better, testwiki), then two pages you control (or testwiki), putting in different wikitext in test files like Connecticut & Kentucky and the NFL files, and making sure the substitutions work *exactly* as you expect. Only after that works, try it on articles. Rather than doing every single article at once, start out with one real article, make sure it is correct, then wait a little, try init on two articles, then 4, then 8, and proceed by multiplespowers of 2, so as to limit the potential danger.

Also, rather than one JWB file that does so much, I would break it up into multiple separate tasks with individual search-replaces. I would definitely separate the NFL from the Census stuff at a minimum.

That's all for now. I'd like to see if anyone else who reads this agrees with me, or is more familiar with how JWB works and should be used. If you do feel like putting a little more effort into explaining your regex search-replace terms and what you expect them to do, I might look further. Until then, good luck fixing this.--David Tornheim (talk) 04:44, 22 March 2024 (UTC) [corrected 06:21, 22 March 2024 (UTC)]

JWB only runs one page at a time, all of those pages were from the list of the errors., only one of them is running at a time, the NFL stuff or anything else saved there never is loaded, (see how it is saved under a different name, I select one and it loads). I am working on my REGEX myself, I’m mostly self taught on regex, I don’t work for the WMF, I do this on my own time. Many of my edits are counter-vandalism, it’s a task that makes my edit count go up rather high.(although I kinda stepped back from that) In terms of the regex, I would suggest putting it into a program that explains regex, like the one I linked earlier, if you would like me to explain the regex myself, give me a few hours to get back to a computer.  Thanks you for your interest. Geardona (talk to me?) 05:05, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Ah right. I have done counter-vandalism too. It gets old after a while, but it is important--it's partly how I flagged your edit on Kentucky.

If JWB does one page at a time and makes you review the page before it saves it and you looks at the diffs before saving, then that eases my concerns. I wonder how you missed the problem after it was saved. Maybe you need to hit view history to see if anything catastrophic happened and then self-revert if it did.

I was afraid this was going to run as a batch job and hundreds of pages could be changed all at once and it be a huge clean up mess.

Like I said before, I am quite familiar with regular expressions. I even took a class in Automata theory and possibly in compiler design that parses complex strings, where I used the lexical analyzer ([Lex (software)]) that works on regular expressions. But I am not familiar with JWB or how JWB saves the data in that JSON file. I don't know the relationship between your search terms and the replace terms. I have asked you to explain a few times. It can't be that hard to figure out, right?

With sed, perl or Word for Windows, there is usually one search string (regular expression) and one replace string (e.g. Sed#Substitution_command, [3], [4]) Your humongous JWB has multiple search-replaces in multiple places and I am simply tired of trying to jump around that file and guess which search string goes with which replace string. It's probably why no one else has offered to help.

The replace method often depends far more on the software--I'm pretty sure Word does it quite differently than sed--so without further guidance on how that works from you (or someone else), I'm losing interest in trying to figure it out. Maybe it is somewhere in the JWB documentation. If so, please just point to it. Hopefully when you get to the computer you can give a list of the intended search and replace strings -and- the place that explains how the replacement part . --David Tornheim (talk) 05:45, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

I looked at them, expecting to see some greedy RegEx, but nothing stood out to me. Searches like ".+" can grab too much; ".+?" fixes it. Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 05:20, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

@StefenTower: I spoke too soon. Somehow my editor didn't notice the (edit conflict) and now the formatting is messed up above. Plus, I said no one responded about the regex expression, and you already just did!

Would you be able to answer any of my simple unanswered questions: (1) What are the search-replace strings? There are about 6, but I am not sure how JWB connects them and exactly where they start and end. (2) Is Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Regular_expression the correct spec for how JWB parses and both the search and the replace? If not, where is the spec? (3) What do you think about my advice for testing? --David Tornheim (talk) 06:09, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Yep, also just finished the thing I was busy with, still on mobile for the time being though :(
Anyways
1) I have currently 4 separate regexes going
A).[fF]irst=US Census
B).[lL]ast=Bureau
C).[fF]irst[\d=]+US Census
D).[lL]ast[\d=]+Bureau
2)yes
3)going to do that when I get back to a laptop, (little off topic but I opened JWB by mistake on mobile, it crashed my device) Geardona (talk to me?) 06:33, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Interesting, thanks! i will change it soon.

I would say though, that’s not consistent with what happened, it seems to have been, I am going to run a test on it when I get back, I’ll try to record a screencap (and do it in my user space) (more to come in like an hour, busy) Geardona (talk to me?) 05:29, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Excellent. --David Tornheim (talk) 06:16, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

So, that’s the interesting part- nothing abnormal showed up in the edit window- I was alerted by a rather confused ping on the discord, the regex is not the problem here. Geardona (talk to me?) 05:48, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

So when you did the "Review your changes", did it show the correct changes and nothing else? When you saved Kentucky and Connecticut, did you do the version check on the page?

If the page you saved appeared complete and correct, but Wikipedia gave an incorrect diff, maybe there is a buffer problem with whatever system you are using or the cache somehow was corrupted as it saved--and somehow it lost the last part of the file.

If it is one of those two problems and not JWB, you could test for that by copying and pasting all of the Kentucky wikitext to a user page. Try saving it, and see if it is the right size. And, if that's not the problem, then use my previous advice. --David Tornheim (talk) 06:23, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

That’s smart, will do.
Note: my wifi was quite bad when I was doing this so that may be the issue.
When I checked the edit box it showed just the expected changes and nothing else, no amputation of any states articles. Geardona (talk to me?) 06:35, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

After reviewing again what happened in the Kentucky article, and being more awake (:)), all I can figure is that if JWB is anything like AWB, when you saved the change, and it sends the whole, changed article back, some packets got dropped. I can't recall this ever happening when using AWB - it just craps out (timeout or hard stop by the server) if it can't complete a save. Something having to do with judging whether the whole save is complete is what to look at. I think RegEx can be ruled out. Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 16:11, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, when I put my wifi being not great on “paper” last night my brain started running, I think that it just timed out halfway through the sending of the diff, and mediawiki decided to interpret that as removing the rest 🤷. So, I just need to run JWB on half decent WiFi, and mediawiki should introduce a “closing handshake” to prevent this from occurring in the future. Geardona (talk to me?) 16:20, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Because I hadn't seen text dropped off like that before in AWB, I had assumed that handshake already existed. Hmmmm. It could just be a really rare glitch that won't repeat. Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 16:52, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

True, because if you look at the diffs they are rather random (for regex) but rather consistent as well. I do not recall a handshake in JWB, to speed it up on slow connections. If I try it again I will do it in better WiFi, leading to this hopefully not re-occurring. Thanks! Geardona (talk to me?) 16:59, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

On another note, thanks for all your help! It’s always nice to get another look at one’s work (even in this case, where the regex turned out not to be the problem) Geardona (talk to me?) 16:52, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Sure thing. Glad you may have identified the problem and appear to have a solution.

@StefenTower: Thanks for the feedback and additional eyes on this. I don't know enough about handshakes to know if that could be considered a bug in JWB. Do you think it is worth reporting to the programmer and requesting a fix--assuming programmer is still active? --David Tornheim (talk) 20:15, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

It wouldn't hurt to mention to the developer that the incident happened. Unless this kind of problem is seen to repeat, I wouldn't call it a 'bug', for as I suggested, it could just be a rare glitch that is practically impossible to trace. Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 20:56, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

A ghost in the machine as some might say. Will mention it to the dev just as a matter of courtesy.
Thanks to all of you for your help! Geardona (talk to me?) 21:13, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Just going to let you both know, it worked!!! see my latest contribs, aside from missing some hits, (because JWB only runs each regex one time :( ) I am going to stop running this now, as there is 4000 + pages and I don't have that much time, I hope Primefac gets that bot running soon.
@David Tornheim
@StefenTower Geardona (talk to me?) 18:12, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the update. I did have to further correct a few cites in Louisville, Kentucky as they were left with only first parameters filled in. There may be other cases, but I just addressed articles that appeared in my watchlist. Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 20:23, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Trouted!

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: destroying half of Kentucky. Oopsie! Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 05:32, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

LOL. Thanks for fixing it! --David Tornheim (talk) 05:34, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Dear god, is there anything between a whale and the stocks? Queen of Hearts ^she/_they^talk/_stalk (please ping on reply) 05:37, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Perucetus, probably? Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 06:18, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Or might I suggest, a massive gear dropped directly on my skull? Geardona (talk to me?) 06:21, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

I think that would give you a traumatic brain injury. Then again, doesn't editing Wikipedia already do that? queen of 🖤 (they/them; chat) 06:26, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

It would only add to my power!!! Geardona (talk to me?) 06:27, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Wadi el-Hasa

Hi. Wadi el-Hasa and Wadi al-Hasa are just 2 possible and common English transliterations, the Arabic definite article can be spelled in both ways. You have added a "misspelling" tag; I don't deal with those matters, if it's just a technical formality which helps with some obscure algoritm - whatever, fine with me. But misspelled it's not :) So you decide what to do now. Thanks, Arminden (talk) 21:07, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Sure, lemme change that real quick, (I don't speak arabic, saw a different spelling, figured misspelling, nothing more complicated) lemme change that to alternate spelling real quick.  Thanks Geardona (talk to me?) 21:09, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

My draft on Alija Rabic or whatever its called

I added 2 new sources, but he is a real person cause i have photo of his body(suspected to be his body) Prizrenali.berisha (talk) 19:57, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Ok, I took a quick look and still think that it needs a few more sources to prove notability. Looking really close though. Geardona (talk to me?) 10:45, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Put 2 more sources, can't find more Prizrenali.berisha (talk) 12:53, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi

The discussion was closed, Can you move it now? The dogcat (talk) 16:56, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

 Done Geardona (talk to me?) 17:01, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

@Geardona, Thank. The dogcat (talk) 17:06, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Geardona, please be more careful about accepting drafts that run counter to recent AFD closures. -- ferret (talk) 00:26, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

I have already given them advice. But, hey they chose to ignore it. [5] GreenishPickle! (🔔) 00:33, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

I reverted an edit by this editor and ended up here, too. Geardona, it's great that you were being so helpful to this editor, responding to all of their questions and requests. But the policies and guidelines of this project are more important than the wishes of anyindividual editor, no matter what their status is, so do not let your well-intentioned desire to help people carry more weight than the standards of AFC acceptance. Thank you for all of the work that you do. For better or worse, editing on this project is a learning process and I know that I am still learning myself. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:03, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

 Thanks Liz and ferret for your advice. Few things, status of the article now is? also learned to stay in my comfort area about topics. Geardona (talk to me?) 01:36, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

I am not sure I quite understand the question as written, but the status of the article is that it currently has to go through another AFD, pointlessly, wasting editor time. You also appear to have given it an improper name (which I attributed wrongly to the draft author) in order to avoid the existing redirect. Please request help with technical moves in the future, rather than using improper disambiguation. -- ferret (talk) 02:38, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Ah, I figured that its name is a little more clear now. Could it not be deleted under PROD after 7 days/ deleted under G4 I suppose. Geardona (talk to me?) 10:05, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

PROD can never be used on an article that has previously been part of a contested deletion process, whether kept or deleted. -- ferret (talk) 14:21, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

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Draft Amanza Walton Desir

@Geardona thank you for beginning to edit the my new submission. I tried to be as meticulous as possible with my references, writings and citations. Is it possible to fully review my submission and provide me with feedback? In addition, does it meet the full standard and criteria of Wikipedia? I tried my best to ensure that it does. Gocoolit (talk) 17:54, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

I see it has been reviewed by another AFC'er and then accepted, I made a few more edits. Will continue a little more later. Geardona (talk to me?) 19:23, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your help. How can get the article move from Start Class to C or B Class? Is there a way you can help with that?

Thanks again. Gocoolit (talk) 20:08, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

I would add more content, maybe a few more sources. Try reading the classification guide here, for some general tips, I would maybe add a bit more content in general. Geardona (talk to me?) 20:52, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

New Page Semantic Brand Score

Hi @Geardona thank a lot for your support and help with the SBS page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Semantic_Brand_Score.

I have edited the draft following your suggestions (making the content different from the previously deleted page and adding verifyeable and reputable secondary sources). I think the previous page was deleted mostly because, at the time, there were no real secondary sources. I have found many now (which also describe the metric in details) and added them to the article. I have also made the page differente from the previous. But I am new here :). Can you help me and tell me if it looks good to you and I can now resubmit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by WarmKomorebi (talk • contribs) 10:36, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

 Done Responded on your talk page. Geardona (talk to me?) 11:19, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Draft from CandyCola4444

hey what is the problem in my draft? I added aftermath and the battle CandyCola4444 (talk) 01:13, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

@CandyCola4444 It still needs more references to establish notability. Geardona (talk to me?) 11:37, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Non-blank draft rejected as blank

Hey Geardona, I'm curious if you noticed that when you declined Draft:Template:84Buddhist at Special:PermanentLink/1217084704 as a blank draft, you noticed that it wasn't actual a blank draft. It was a valid draft WP:Template destined for the Template namespace.

Drafts that are draft templates are acceptable to be drafted in the draft namespace, per Wikipedia:Drafts at note 1: ... new pages for non-article namespaces such as the Portal:, Template: and Wikipedia: namespaces are first incubated in the draftspace. What was your reasoning for declining the submission? microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 15:47, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

I saw nothing in the page, not even a template. Now I see its collapsed, sorry my bad. Geardona (talk to me?) 15:49, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Per WP:NPOL

Please note that state supreme court justices (like this one) are inherently notable. It would conceivably be appropriate to reject a draft where there is no evidence that the subject actually held that position, but barring that circumstance, they go straight through. BD2412 T 17:52, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

US Census Bureau citation edits

Hi Geardona, just a heads up, edits like this one are adding pages to Category:CS1 errors: empty unknown parameters. Not the end of the world since Citation Bot will fix them when it is run on that category, but probably something you should fix if you're going to run that script on a lot of pages. Thanks! :Jay8g [V•T•E] 07:38, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

will amend the REGEX more.(whitespace is annoying) Thank you Geardona (talk to me?) 10:43, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Should be fixed now, let me know if I trigger any more of the CS1 errors! Geardona (talk to me?) 12:07, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Looks like things are working a lot better now, but here are a couple more that caused the same error: [6] [7]. The second one seems to have some sort of other issue going on. I don't know regex at all so I don't know whether those issues are easily fixable, but just wanted to let you know. :Jay8g [V•T•E] 19:05, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks (Grumbles to self about CS1 errors) thinking of a solution now... Geardona (talk to me?) 21:20, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Minor Barnstar
		Thank you for participating in the March 2024 backlog drive. Your contribution (3.5 points total) helped reduce the backlog by more than 250 articles! Here's a token of our appreciation. —Ganesha811 (talk) 16:10, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

White Deer Hole Creek

I don't think this edit worked as intended - I don't know regex but this looks like a false positive. Hog Farm _Talk 00:00, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes and no? I’m removing default parameters, so no it should not have picked up the bureau for the USCB task, but it should be removed otherwise. Make sense? Geardona (talk to me?) 00:05, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes, the parameter does need to be changed (probably by including the information under a different parameter rather than just removing it), but this does raise the question as to if the results of the regex are being properly checked. Hog Farm _Talk 00:08, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

I thought of that just as I logged off, it also left a incorrect parameter so  Self-trout on that one, I read the rest as title. Gonna leave a note on my computer to stay zoned in during JWB, it gets a little dull.  Thanks for letting me know! What parameter are you thinking? Geardona (talk to me?) 00:32, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

I would say in this case to use |author as the documentation for {{cite book}} says "this parameter is used to hold the name of an organizational author (e.g. a committee)". Hog Farm _Talk 02:21, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Sounds good! When you make the edit mind redoing the removal of the valid hit, the First=U.S. census bit? Geardona (talk to me?) 10:05, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Is this what you had in mind with the Census Bureau bit? Hog Farm _Talk 01:03, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Yep! Just 4k more pages to go! Working on a fix for that issue as well. Thank you very much! Geardona (talk to me?) 10:47, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

WikiCup 2024 April newsletter

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• Sammi Brie (submissions) with 642 points, mostly from 11 GAs about radio and television;
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Paul Glaser

Hi - I saw you on the Draft:Paul Glaser: Revision history page - what corrections do I need to take care of to get https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Paul_Glaser published. Thank you for your guidance on this. Andipost (talk) 14:30, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

No problem, I was a little tired at the time so I was just going through and cleaning it up. The references to amazon most likely have to go, same thing for youtube and BroadwayWorld, as these are unreliable sources. Geardona (talk to me?) 18:46, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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	You helped me to configure and be able to use the semi automated user script. That's a whole work which one needs more time to do, yet you sacrificed. A great kudos. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 20:43, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Insource search

Hi Geardona, I hope you are doing well. I just want to know, which tool do you use to automatically generate a list of pages that contain a specific query in citations (insource)? – DreamRimmer (talk) 13:32, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

I suppose insource:/{{Cite [a-zA-Z|= ]+ [search term]}}/ could work. Geardona (talk to me?) 03:53, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

I knew this. My question was if a query has many results, for example, 100 results, and I need the list of those 100 pages. – DreamRimmer (talk) 04:01, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Ah, I am really sorry about that. Try generating a list from JWB and copying it into wherever. (From the side under page list) It won’t make links but Google docs allows you to do a find and replace to add the brackets. I am sure there is an easier way but it is what I use. Geardona (talk to me?) 12:33, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

I made a tool, so now we can easily search anything within citation templates and automatically generate a list of all the pages that contain that query. – DreamRimmer (talk) 12:41, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Oh wow thank you! That tool is going to make things easier! Geardona (talk to me?) 22:23, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

WikiCup 2024 May newsletter

The second round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 April. This round was particularly competitive: each of the 32 contestants who advanced to Round 3 scored at least 141 points. This is the highest number of points required to advance to Round 3 since 2014.

The following scorers in Round 2 all scored more than 500 points:

• Sammi Brie (submissions) with 707 points, mostly from 45 good article nomination reviews and 12 good articless about radio and television;
• Generalissima (submissions) with 600 points, mostly from 12 good articles and 12 did you know nominations about coinage and history;
• SounderBruce (submissions) with 552 points, mostly from a featured article about the 2020 Seattle Sounders FC season, three featured lists, and two good articles;
• BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 548 points, mostly from a featured article about the snooker player John Pulman, two featured lists, and one good article;
• voorts (submissions) with 530 points, mostly from two featured articles (Well he would, wouldn't he? and Cora Agnes Benneson) and three good articles.

The full scores for Round 2 can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 18 featured articles, 22 featured lists, and 186 good articles, 76 in the news credits and at least 200 did you know credits. They have conducted 165 featured article reviews, as well as 399 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 21 articles to featured topics and good topics.

Remember that any content promoted after 28 April but before the start of Round 3 can be claimed during Round 3, which starts on 1 May at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed.

If you would like to learn more about rules and scoring for the 2024 WikiCup, please see this page. Further questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:37, 29 April 2024 (UTC)