User talk:Forever Jose

Adding a template.[edit]

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Is it possible to change my User:MEDIA PRENSA?

How can I add a Spanish naming customs template when editing a page?

I'm new here.

(MEDIA PRENSA (talk) 10:08, 4 August 2020 (UTC))[reply]

Do you mean that you want to change your username from "MEDIA PRENSA" to something else? That is certainly a good idea. Please visit WP:CHUS and follow the simple instructions there.

Please note that if you have some connection, personal or professional, to Ms Perales, you must disclose it – more information here. Thank you, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:19, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've renamed your account, much better now. To add Template:Spanish name to a page, just add {{Spanish name}} (exactly so, complete with the curly parentheses) above the other text. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 13:02, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation[edit]

Hello! MEDIA PRENSA, you are invited to join other new editors and friendly hosts in the Teahouse. It's a good place to meet people, ask questions and learn more about Wikipedia. Please give it a try! Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:20, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help @Justlettersandnumbers: (Forever Jose (talk) 18:37, 6 August 2020 (UTC))[reply]

Help me[edit]

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Since last week I've posted the following thread in Teahouse and nobody replied the last message, but Marchjuly, who kindly corrected the formatting of the message, but just thatm Is there anybody who can help with this issue, please?

Forever Jose (() (talk) 06:10, 10 August 2020 (UTC))[reply]

Hi, the edits you made were unsourced. Secondly, you removed maintenance tag without adequately explaining why and without fixing the suggested issues. Once you add sourced content, it will be accepted without any issue. Please be sure to visit the following for future reference:

If you think offered help was not useful, feel free to revert my edit.

Thank you and happy editing. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 09:32, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@TheBirdsShedTears: thanks for your help. Since I'm new, I have some questions:

a) How did I removed the maintenance tag and what does means maintenance tag? Sometimes I click on something to see what happens.

b) I agree that part is unsourced, but she talk about it in videos. Is that enough to take a video as a source?

c) On the other hand, I added a Spanish name template. It was also deleted, despite clarifying her name. In other beauty queens they've done that and I saw it wasn't deleted. I will add it again, to see what's wrong with that.

d) Also, I've added sourced and external links in my last edits. Aren't they enough. I'm talking about this I made

f) Is accepted as a source, a link in other language than English in an English article.

Again, thanks so much for your help.

(() (talk) 00:08, 11 August 2020 (UTC))[reply]

Maintenance tags (template) are designed to describe the article issues which are expected to be fixed by volunteers without practicing conflict of interest. It usually exist at the top of page. Please see maintenance tag and maintenance template removal. Poor or unreliable sources may be removed by any editor. flickr(dot)com and YouTube are not reliable sources. Please see User-generated content. A reliable source is described here. Thank you and happy editing.

TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 03:35, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Non-English sources are acceptable in case English is not available. Please see WP:RSUE. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 05:49, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Priscila Perales[edit]

A few years ago, I read about Priscila Perales in Wikipedia (English and Spanish) and most of the information and a photo, was about another lady that somebody posted instead of Priscila's info.

That situation lasted a long time and later was solved, but those pages still need more work. I wanted to edit them but I had no time. With the pandemic, I'm taking advantage I'm at home and I've wrote a draft in my computer about her with real information.

I started editing the page in Wikipedia, but every time I did so, everything was deleted. They claimed it wasn't referenced information (I don't know yet how to add that), and in one edit I wrote the date of birth was in Wikipedia in Spanish and still wasn't accepted.

On top of that, I've added her books with ISBN and they were deleted too. However, for another beauty queen (Lupita Jones), her books are mentioned in her Wikipedia page.

What did I do wrong? I feel that wrong information prevailed more time in Perales page and now that I want to post real one, it's not possible.

Any suggestions? Should I forget this edit and pursue others?

Forever Jose (talk) 19:41, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Information may be true, but adding if requires verification in the form of references. Hence you additions reverted. See Help:Referencing for beginners. David notMD (talk) 20:26, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

UPDATE: Yesterday, I've wrote a second message with the same subject, but for some misterious reason it doesn't appear here in teahouse, even that I correctly posted it. That's why I'm writing an update here.

I've did more editing on Priscila Perales adding references and external links and all but one of my contributions were deleted by @ justlettersandnumbers since he thinks I am paid for doing this. As I explained on my first post (you can read it above), I was pursuing to update the articles (in English and Spanish) regarding Priscila Perales long time ago. And now that I have the time, I am doing so and I have more articles that I want to do too, but the response for whatever I post is dissapointing.

I even added the {Spanish name} template for Priscila and it was deleted too, despite of being posted correctly and it didn't hurt the article.

I've followed the advice of David notMD adding more references and from all, I only failed using one of IMDb, which could be easily deleted by the administrator justlettersandnumbers and instead of that, he just deleted all. That's dissapointing, since it's still difficult for me to write without using visual editor and it's offensive for the time and work involved. I thought I had to be patient because I have no experience and I just had to repost and learn, but I feel there's no respect for my contributions.

Overall, you can check what I've done and only one change was accepted for that article, which is when I deleted the "official website" of Perales, because it's just a promotional website for selling bracelets.

References in Spanish are still there, despite I've added some in English. So I think for some reason somebody doesn't want to improve the article.

I feel that the aforementioned administrator just deletes my changes not only because he thinks that I am paid for doing so, furthermore he just deletes automatically whatever I post, without accepting changes that are good for the article. I feel offended that he assumes something that is not true and I went to his talk page looking for advice and I found more people complaining that he thinks that they are paid too.

Therefore, I've decided to look for advice here. Since I like to do the things perfect and probably for him, that means that I am paid and he's wrong.

For me this is just an opportunity to test my skills as a writer, something that I always wanted to do.

Therefore, I need your advice here for this article of Priscila Perales. I've thought on three options to choose from:

1) Forget about it despite the time and effort that I put on it and do other articles about people that I admire, but I'm afraid that again this guy would think that I am paid for doing so and again, he will just delete whatever I post.

or

2) I can post a draft of the article of Priscila, and whoever wants to use the information will edit the article and wil take advantage of what I researched and wrote.

or

3) If the administrator who deletes all my changes has any personal issues with Perales and he will never allow anybody to improve the article, I better don't post a draft nor encourage anybody to work on that.

Please let me know your thoughts: @David notMD: and thanks for your suggestions for more references and @ColinFine: thanks for helping me with my New Additions message and anybody else who may want to help me with this issue. Forever Jose (talk) 06:29, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Forever Jose. I cleaned up the formatting, etc. of your last post a bit. The best way to continue a discussion is to simply add your comment below the last comment in the thread or below the comment of the person you want to respond to as explained here. Trying to insert your comment in the middle of an already posted comment (even if it's your own comment) isn't usually a good idea because it can end up causing confusion as explained in WP:TPO and WP:REDACT. I'm also pinging @David notMD: and @ColinFine: as a courtesy since the ping templates you were to a post that was already signed. Ping templates only work when you add them to a post and then sign the post. They don't work if you add them to a post that's already been signed. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:18, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome![edit]

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Welcome!

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Image without license[edit]

Unspecified source/license for File:Priscila Perales 2020.jpeg[edit]

Thanks for uploading File:Priscila Perales 2020.jpeg. The image has been identified as not specifying the copyright status of the image, which is required by Wikipedia's policy on images. Even if you created the image yourself, you still need to release it so Wikipedia can use it. If you don't indicate the copyright status of the image on the image's description page, using an appropriate copyright tag, it may be deleted some time after the next seven days. If you made this image yourself, you can use copyright tags like {{PD-self}} (to release all rights), {{self|cc-by-sa-4.0}} (to require that you be credited), or any tag here - just go to the image, click edit, and add one of those. If you have uploaded other images, please verify that you have provided copyright information for them as well.

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@Mifter: @MifterBot: Thanks for your comments, this is my first upload. The photo is from Flickr Creative Commons and is CC-BY-SA in the sections: summary and comments, I mentioned that is from Flickr Creative Commons with a license CC-BY-SA. I don't know where else I should mention so. I've just added a tag, but I don't know if that's OK.

() (talk) 11:29, 26 February 2021 (UTC) Forever Jose[reply]

File source problem with File:Priscila Perales 2020.jpeg[edit]

Thank you for uploading File:Priscila Perales 2020.jpeg. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, please add a link to the page from which it was taken, together with a brief restatement of the website's terms of use of its content. If the original copyright holder is a party unaffiliated with the website, that author should also be credited. Please add this information by editing the image description page.

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@Whpq: Thanks for your message. This is my first upload. The photo comes from Flickr Creative Commons. I've just taged it with the right license, could you please check for me if I did it correctly.

() (talk) 12:00, 26 February 2021 (UTC) Forever Jose[reply]

It's not sufficient to just state you got it from Flickr. You need to provide a source URL. -- Whpq (talk) 12:20, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Whpq: Media copyright questions page request for undeletion Is it ok the information I uploaded to File:Priscila Perales 2020.jpeg or do I need to add something else?

() (talk) 06:59, 3 March 2021 (UTC) Forever Jose[reply]

As you can see below, I have tagged the image for deletion. The problem is that the licensing you applied is not correct. The flickr source states the license is CC BY-NC-SA 2.0 which is not an acceptably free licence due the restriction on commercial use. Not all Creative Commons licenses are acceptable for Wikipedia. Those that disallow commercial use or disallow derivative works are not acceptable. WP:Free licenses lists the licenses that are acceptable. When looking at licensing on flickr, you can click on the license icons to bring up the license details. -- Whpq (talk) 13:50, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Priscila Perales 2020.jpeg[edit]

A tag has been placed on File:Priscila Perales 2020.jpeg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a file licensed as "for non-commercial use only", "no derivative use", "for Wikipedia use only", or "used with permission"; and it has not been shown to comply with the limited standards for the use of non-free content. If you agree with the deletion, there is no need to do anything. If, however, you believe that this image may be retained on Wikipedia under one of the permitted conditions then:

state clearly the source of the image. If it has been copied from elsewhere on the web you should provide links to: the image itself, the page which uses it and the page which contains the license conditions.
add the relevant copyright tag and if necessary, a complete fair use rationale.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Whpq (talk) 13:45, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

^[1] @Whpq: May help to contact the owner of the photos, to ask her to change the files license to be used in Wikipedia? I know a journalist who may be able to help.--() (talk) 15:38, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Whpq: It won't be necessary to try to contact the owner of these photos. I went to the Flickr page of Priscila Perales to see what changes would be necessary for Wkipedia and all the photos that were deleted, they comply with the CC BY-SA 2.0 Then, what can I do to put them back in the Wikipedia page of this individual? I read what you've sent me and I don't don't understand why they were deleted.--() (talk) 16:51, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As stated in my note above, at the time you uploaded the images, the flickr source stated that the license was CC BY-NC-SA 2.0. I see that has now been changed to CC-BY-SA 2.0. However, Perales is the subject of the photo, and the copyright holder is usually the photographer and not the subject of the photo. I suggest you follow the steps in Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission to get confirmed permission of licensing. -- Whpq (talk) 17:00, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Whpq: My friend journalist helped me to contact Mrs. Perales. She says the photos were taken with her cellphone by her husband or the maid for her and she used them in Instagram too, but the one in the beauty contest that it was taken by a friend (with a camera), who gave it to her. Therefore, all rights belong to her. Should I ask her to write a letter for Wikipedia or is enough what is stated in Flickr? Sorry for sending too many messages. Not always I have time for this.() (talk) 18:33, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am going to repeat myself. Follow the instructions on Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission. Somebody on the Volunter Response Team will be get it sorted out. -- Whpq (talk) 20:06, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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