User talk:Firatlal
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September 2020[edit]
Hello, I'm IamNotU. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Lahmacun seemed less than neutral and has been removed. If you think this was a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. IamNotU (talk) 02:08, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
November 2020[edit]
Please do not add commentary, your own point of view, or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, as you did to Safavid dynasty. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you. Wario-Man (talk) 19:07, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
this is not my own opinion. The Safavids are Turco-persian state, they have nothing to do with the Kurds. can you tell me the source you used? Firatlal (talk) 20:00, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
Warning[edit]
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at User:HistoryofIran. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. --Kansas Bear (talk) 19:19, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
Vandalism??? Are fucking kidding me? You're all racist Firatlal (talk) 01:12, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Warning: Safavid dynasty[edit]
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AA2 advisory[edit]
Please carefully read this information:
The Arbitration Committee has authorised discretionary sanctions to be used for pages regarding Armenia, Azerbaijan, or related conflicts, a topic which you have edited. The Committee's decision is here.
Discretionary sanctions is a system of conduct regulation designed to minimize disruption to controversial topics. This means uninvolved administrators can impose sanctions for edits relating to the topic that do not adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, our standards of behavior, or relevant policies. Administrators may impose sanctions such as editing restrictions, bans, or blocks. This message is to notify you sanctions are authorised for the topic you are editing. Before continuing to edit this topic, please familiarise yourself with the discretionary sanctions system. Don't hesitate to contact me or another editor if you have any questions.- To name a few examples;
- Edit warring on the Safavid dynasty article in order to remove well-sourced content an to push for a pro-Turkic POV. #1,[1] #2,[2] #3,[3] #4[4]
- "Are fucking kidding me? You're all racist"[5]
- Referring to other editors as "idiots"[6]
- Referring to edits as "Persian propaganda"[7]
- Changing "Mughal Indian" to "Mughal Turkic". No edit summary/explanation[8]-[9]
- Removing the well-referenced content on the "Arabs" page in order to nullify the huge presence of ethnic Arabs in Turkey[10]
- "An Iranian prepared the documents you added"[11][12]
- Added unsourced content without edit summary/explanation at the Scythia page in order to Turkify the Scythians[13]
- Added unsourced content without edit summary/explanation at the Tomyris page in order to Turkify this historic person[14]
- - LouisAragon (talk) 15:20, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Öd Tengri[edit]
Hello Firatlal,
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Karash Han moved to draftspace[edit]
An article you recently created, Karash Han, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. John B123 (talk) 00:37, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
No one does research on Turkic mythology. Only some Turks have resources. If there are other sources, find them. It's not my fault no one's doing any research on this. Firatlal (talk) 01:18, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: Karash Han (December 2)[edit]
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Hello, Firatlal!
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Addressing other users[edit]
Hello Firatlal. This is not a good example of how to address other users ('which idiot..'). Please be aware that people can be blocked for personal attacks. Also, your comment suggests you have no interest in looking at any reliable sources on Kurdish ancestry of the Safavids. Meanwhile, you are happy to state that they intermarried with the Turkmen, also without a source. Finally, you removed two references in the same edit. Do you think the article is better without those references? Are you sure you know enough to be editing here? EdJohnston (talk) 04:34, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
- Actually, this comment is a gem as well. Wikipedia doesn't put up with this kind of thing for long, so please edit more calmly and don't call other people racists. EdJohnston (talk) 04:43, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
- @EdJohnston: Another one to add to the list: I'm sorry, but I've never seen another page more ridiculous in my life.You've added all the Turkic states to the list. but even though the Safavids are a dynasty of Turkish origin, when we change it, you immediately attack. Persians on Wikipedia are pathetic. --HistoryofIran (talk) 23:27, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
Can you please tell me where I insulted other users? You add things to every page about the Turks according to your own interests. it's called pathetic, and it's not an insult. Firatlal (talk) 02:24, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
December 2020[edit]
Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to Turkmen Sahra. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. Wario-Man (talk) 06:02, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
Disambiguation link notification for December 16[edit]
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An article you recently created, Öd Tengri, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Mccapra (talk) 10:36, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
Personal attacks[edit]
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Per this comment about Persian editors ('Persians on Wikipedia are pathetic') at Talk:Persianate society. If this abuse continues you may be indefinitely blocked. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 16:00, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- You've proved once again that Wikipedia is not neutral. thanks.. Firatlal (talk) 16:46, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- I've increased your block to indefinite, since you seem to believe that your insults are perfectly correct. The appeal options are explained at WP:GAB. I also remember you were calling people racists a while ago. EdJohnston (talk) 16:53, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
I'm not saying my insults are true. Wikipedia is not an impartial source, too many users upload false information, but you block me instead of correcting them. Firatlal (talk) 01:47, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
"warlike editing on Turkic matters" Can you explain what that means? are you slandering me now? I didn't even do anything except add a few maps to the page of Turkic States and dynasties. Firatlal (talk) 04:13, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
a few months ago, I made an edit on the Safavid page, and they blocked me, and I didn't do anything else after that day.it's ridiculous that you're even blocking me right now, because I haven't edited any pages, I've just stated my opinion in the talk section. that's what the talk pages are for. Firatlal (talk) 04:17, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Why don't you answer. Firatlal (talk) 14:24, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Heyyy Firatlal (talk) 01:07, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
It's been 5 days, please unblock me. what do you want? please answer me. Firatlal (talk) 11:08, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- To answer that question, you are blocked indefinitely, and if you wish to be unblocked you will need to make an unbock request as explained in the block message. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 18:22, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- UTRS appeal #38963 is now closed. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 18:20, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- User:Firatlal you are under an indefinite block, but you can still edit this talk page. If you are willing to stop attacking other editors, you can file an unblock request here, using the instructions at WP:GAB. EdJohnston (talk) 18:25, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
Firatlal (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
they blocked me for 3 days for saying my own opinion on the talk page, slandered me when I said it was unfair for them to block me, and they blocked me indefinitely. he didn't answer when I texted him again, and I've been blocked for 7 days now. Isn't talk pages a place to say our own opinion without insulting someone?I'm just new to Wikipedia, so I can't quite understand some things. I'm really sorry if I made a mistake unwittingly Firatlal (talk) 19:06, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
Decline reason:
You're going to need to acknowledge the personal attacks that you made and commit to not repeating this behavior if you want this block lifted. signed, Rosguill talk 19:33, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
- (I've moved this unblock request down here to the bottom, where it will be seen.) Your block is for attacking other people, which you have not addressed in this request. If the "opinions" you wish to post on talk pages are derogatory opinions about other contributors or groups of people in general, then no, that is certainly not what talk pages are for. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 19:27, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
So why not do something to racist users on Wikipedia? I'm sorry, but a lot of pages on Wikipedia are in the hands of racists, and you're not doing anything about it. as I said, I'm new to Wikipedia, so I don't know everything.yes, I made a mistake, and the penalty for this was 3 days of blocking, but it was 7 days, why don't you remove my blocking? what do you want? I can't understand. Firatlal (talk) 19:50, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
Again, I apologize, yes, I am guilty, I wrote it with a momentary anger. I didn't want to insult a person or a nation, I was just angry at racist and troll users who were on Wikipedia. I promise I won't do it again, I won't even talk to anyone if I have to. Firatlal (talk) 19:54, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- I'm finding it hard to believe my eyes here, but you are further attacking other Wikipedia editors as "racist users" and "racist and troll users" at the same time as apologising for doing so? That is absolutely unacceptable, and suggests that you are incapable of maintaining the civility that is required here. As a result, and to prevent further such attacks, I have now revoked your ability to edit this talk page. If you ever decide that you are capable of interacting in a civil manner with other people in a cooperative environment without making such attacks, you can ask to have your talk page access restored at WP:UTRS. But be warned that any further attacks in any UTRS request will lose you access to that too. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 20:01, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- I'm going to offer you a little more advice now. I have had a look over your editing history since you created your account, and I'm seeing multiple aggressive and abusive interactions with others. You accuse others of being racist while making racist attacks yourself. You remove ethnic-based content whose sources you dislike while adding your own ethnic-based content without any sources at all. And I can not see a single instance where you have attempted to engage in civil discussion on any disputed article talk page. If you want to have any chance of ever being unblocked, you will need to radically change your approach to this project. I suggest you have a good read of WP:CIVIL, WP:NPA and WP:CONSENSUS, and make sure you fully understand them and are committed to following them, before you consider any new attempt at an unblock request. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 20:35, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
Concern regarding Draft:Karash Han[edit]
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Your draft article, Draft:Öd Tengri[edit]
Hello, Firatlal. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Öd Tengri".
In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.
Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. ✗plicit 11:27, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
is open. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:26, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
is closed. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:59, 10 May 2022 (UTC)