User talk:Faethe

Welcome!

Hello, Faethe, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Help Request[edit]

Hi there, how can I help? Andy^reply 17:52, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Help me request has been answered in IRC. Andy^reply 17:55, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

=== June 2007 === Please stop adding inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, as you did to Fark.com. It is considered spamming and Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or promotion. Since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, additions of links to Wikipedia will not alter search engine rankings. If you continue spamming, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Seed 2.0 21:59, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me - exactly where did I add an external link to anything?Faethe 22:10, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't spam. Miranda 22:31, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, with all due respect, the fact that you're not using markup is nothing more than a technicality. This issue has been discussed in detail on the article's talk page and in edit summaries. There have been numerous policy violations in the past and these attempts at (systematic and coordinated) spamming are simply not acceptable. I believe the warnings left by two administrators and myself were quite clear and this edit war has been going on for far too long.

It's understandable that you have the desire to promote your website but this isn't the place for it. Wikipedia only includes websites that are already notable; it's not a vehicle for promotion. Please consider this a formal warning. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to contact me. -- Seed 2.0 22:49, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not spam mate. Also not my website. I fully intend to write a valid criticism and should like to remind you that this is an encyclopedia of which criticism is part and parcel of.Faethe 23:00, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

First, Seed, Banninate.com doesn't exist. Second, read the Spam policy, and read the note on your page that I responded to which clearly defines what is and is not spam. Third, quit biting this user, and go on with your normal editing...and let this discussion be done. Miranda 03:20, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is an article I wish to post on the fark.com page as a criticism. Some of the footnotes are off because someone keeps changing the content that was already on the page. I can source it again. I have written this out long hand and need to modify it on a wiki scratchpad or something so I can get all the links and cross-references to other articles right. The numbers are footnotes - I authored this in Open Office. Also - some of the footnotes may be missing because they were part of the original fark.com article which has since been altered by someone.

Criticism

On April 25th 2007, at 5:00 PM EST Fark.com modified it's format which was met with mixed results. This was exacerbated by an Admin's remark insisting that users 'get over it' [8]. As a result, some users fled into or started other communities [27]. The most commonly reasons stated for this were:

1. Users felt alienated by the new design [9] and the change in posting rules [11].

2. Users felt alienated by the increased level of moderation..

An example of one individual who was banned as a result of this increased level of moderation is former fark user, mytwocents [28], who was banned and subsequently had her blog's [29] ip address blocked by Fark for reasons that were never made clear. Many other users that either criticized or started new sites [27] that featured criticism of Fark were also subsequently banned.

Like most public forums, Fark has the means to suspend a user's account [30] should circumstances warrant it. One form of banning is the "shadow ban" [31] . There is no official term for this form of banning. It is not mentioned anywhere in Fark's FAQ [32]. Evidence of this has been collected through screencaps and user testimony [33]. When an account has been shadow banned, any posts submitted by the user are invisible to the rest of the community. Only the banned user can see their own posts. Because the user can see their own postings appear in a thread, the user continues to post under the assumption that his or her posts are visible. The shadow banned user is not informed that he/she has been banned from Fark and may continue to post for months before finding out [33].

Examples of Fark's undisclosed site management techniques have been documented as far back as 2004 [34]. A Fark sales rep solicited “highly placed links to his sites in return for several hundred dollars” [34] to Jason Calacanis [35] “publisher of several rival Weblogs, Inc. blogs” [34]. According to a statement on Calacanis' weblog he felt he would “never trust Fark again” [36]. After the incident was reported on Wired News [34], Calacanis noted on his blog that users on Fark who posted concerns about Fark's representatives tactics had their accounts “turned off” [37].

27 Http://www.bannination.com

28 User Mytwocents profile http://cgi.fark.com/cgi/fark/users.pl?login=mytwocents

29 User Mytwocents Blog http://www.thespinzone.com/mytwocents.php

30 Fark.com Posting Guidelines http://www.fark.com/farq/posting.shtml#What_are_the_posting_rules.3F

31 Ratf*cker's guide to shadowbanning http://ergh.org/farkdeceit/others/

32 http://www.fark.com/farq/

33 User BloodyNose's screencaps http://ergh.org/farkdeceit/bloodynose/

34 Wired News “Fark Sells Out: France Surrenders” 8/06/2004 http://www.wired.com/techbiz/media/news/2004/08/64472

35 Joseph Calacanis http://www.calacanis.com/

36 Calacanis.com “Fark.com sells their editorial, and the loyalty of their users.” http://www.calacanis.com/2004/08/02/fark-com-sells-their-editorial-and-the-loyalty-of-their-users/

37 Calacanis.com “Final Thoughts on Fark.com” http://www.calacanis.com/2004/08/06/final-thoughts-on-fark-com/

Faethe 01:53, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I will look at this tomorrow, but you need to contact Alison first of your proposal. Miranda 01:56, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]