User talk:Elek58
This thread has been returned to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ivana Raymonda van der Veen (2nd nomination). Thanks. Rebbing 12:47, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
Please assume good faith[edit]
You are acting as if I waved a magic wand, and the article appeared here. You should realize that I spent many hours creating this article, even though it was based on a draft written by Ivana and another fan. Over a dozen hours of my time went into creating this article. I didn't put that effort into this project to then play dirty tricks. I thought for a long time that I could defend this article from deletion attempts, but it was a constant source of stress. Acceptable coverage is not only news coverage. The article has audio coverage primarily from Internet radio stations and from a TV show in Israel. Audio and audiovisual coverage, in theory, can be very helpful. The problem is that I recently discovered that the radio coverage was not in the least bit notable, and neither was the Israeli channel tribute. And as I said, I begged Ivana to help me strengthen the article, but she refused over and over again. I told her that the article was in danger, but she refused to cooperate. Yet you put all the blame on me. Now I see that even if she had done what I asked her to do, it wouldn't have been enough, but it's very telling that she showed no interest in protecting her own article, and now she claims that she's in a state of emotional distress because it's in danger of deletion.
Once I realized that I had written a non-notable article, I had no choice but to nominate it for deletion. Otherwise I would be behaving in a dishonest manner. If I was behaving out of spite I would have nominated the article for deletion when I lost all respect for Ivana months ago, but once I began using SimilarWeb for another project, I tested it on the Internet radio station websites that have broadcast Ivana's music, and the results were disastrous. That's when I had no choice but to nominate Ivana's article for deletion. If it makes you happy to believe that I'm a traitor, that's fine with me. I will just tell you that if I believed that Ivana was an honest person I would still be supporting her. I'm the one who feels that she betrayed all of her fans, which is when I decided I would not support her any longer. Anyway, try to remember that I invested lots of time and effort in this article. Think about it. It did not appear magically. Dontreader (talk) 09:34, 13 July 2016 (UTC)