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NPR Newsletter No.15 16 November 2018

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Can you help settle disputes?

Hi, I apologize for deleting those comments, I figured since those issues had been resolved that it was ok to do so. Since I have you here, I would like to call your attention to two disputes that have been ongoing. The first is with editor jjj1238, who has been changing the country names of Miss Universe delegates. If you check her talk page you will see our long discussion about this (under Slovak Republic/Slovakia). She is claiming it is a CommonName issue and is following the Wikipedia rules and guidelines, but there are other editors who disagree with her altering pageant history in this way. The second issue is whether Sierra Leone is participating in this year's pageant. There is no evidence that they will be. Editor DanaRhys, who cannot be contacted for some reason, is responsible for adding sources linked to Instagram accounts, which are not reliable or legitimate sources. This editor has reverted my edits multiple times, as has jjj1238. These are considered edit wars, correct? I'm hoping since you represent Wikipedia, you will look into this matter so that a resolution can be reached. Thank you. --Rahu22 (talk) 16:07, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

@Rahu22: First, I need to correct you on something. I do not "represent" Wikipedia in any official capacity. The overwhelming majority of editors here are, like you and me, purely volunteers. We have real lives and jobs outside of Wikipedia, and are not affiliated with Wikipedia or its governing body, the Wikimedia Foundation, in any way. I am simply an experienced editor who has contributed to Wikipedia for many years, giving me a good understanding of its policies and guidelines.
One important principle on Wikipedia is to assume good faith when dealing with other editors. You should avoid accusing others of harmful motives unless there is clear evidence to the contrary. Quite often when someone performs problematic edits, it's because they are unaware that they are doing something wrong, not because they are knowingly and maliciously breaking the rules.
I don't see any attempts to contact DanaRhys on their talk page. I also did a quick scan of the talk pages of some (not all) of the articles they edited, and I don't see any attempts to engage them in any discussion there either. It's entirely possible that they don't know that social media sites are considered unreliable sources. They are a new editor as well, since their account is only a little over a month old. You calling them "Another guilty culprit" sounds accusatory, and you should not do this without a good-faith attempt to communicate with them. I have left a note on their talk page about using Instagram as a source.
As far as your WP:COMMONNAME dispute with Jjj1238, it can only be considered an edit war if there have been a series of back-and-forth reverts between you and them. One thing you must strictly observe is the three-revert rule, which states:

An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page—whether involving the same or different material—within a 24-hour period. An edit or a series of consecutive edits that undoes other editors' actions—whether in whole or in part—counts as a revert. Violations of the rule often attract blocks of at least 24 hours. Fourth reverts just outside the 24-hour period may also be taken as evidence of edit-warring, especially if repeated or combined with other edit-warring behavior. See below for exemptions.

This is a bright-line rule which you cannot break, even if you know or feel that you are right, unless it falls under the exceptions to the rule. This applies equally to all editors, regardless of their experience and standing.
If you are not satisfied with the result of your discussion with them, have you tried the dispute resolution noticeboard? This is an elevated forum for dispute resolution to try to achieve consensus after talk page discussion has failed. There is also the edit warring noticeboard for reporting of legitimate edit wars - just bear in mind that your behaviour will also be scrutinized as well as the other party with whom you have the dispute.
Consensus is Wikipedia's fundamental model for editorial decision making, and is marked by addressing legitimate concerns held by editors through a process of compromise while following Wikipedia policies. I hope this helps you achieve that objective. Good luck. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 17:09, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
I will do my best not to be accusatory, but it's frustrating when this kind of thing keeps happening. Thanks for the info though. I finally was able to reach DanaRhys thru their talk function. The Miss Universe 2018 page looks PERFECT now. Hopefully, it will stay that way. --Rahu22 (talk) 17:27, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
@Rahu22: It might stay that way for a while, but remember than anyone is free to edit it at anytime. You should not feel possessive about an article's content and insist that it remain at a version you prefer. I'll let you know about WP:OWN, which says:

No one "owns" content (including articles or any page at Wikipedia). If you create or edit an article, others can make changes, and you cannot prevent them from doing so. In addition, you should not undo their edits without good reason. Disagreements should be calmly resolved, starting with a discussion on the article talk page.

So please keep in mind if and when someone makes changes to this or any other article. There is no such thing as a "perfect" article, as perfection is a subjective quality. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 18:08, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
I would appreciate you not referring to me as a stalker. You are making the same kinds of personal accusations you said I shouldn't make. The Watchlist is there for a reason. You are the one monitoring my every movement, so if anybody should be accused of stalking it is YOU. Erroneous information on Wikipedia of ANY kind should not be allowed. Perhaps you would be better served focusing on making sure these pages are as factual as possible, as I have tried to do. I have the necessary research experience and knowledge of Miss Universe history to ensure the page's success. It shouldn't be a free-for-all. I also have every right to delete messages that were mistakenly sent to the wrong person or page (like the Teahouse). --Rahu22 (talk) 21:59, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
@Rahu22: The (talk page stalker) template was not meant to identify you - it was meant to identify me as a talk page stalker. A talk page stalker is an editor who enters discussions in which they were not initially directly involved, and have some constructive commentary to contribute. I put that template there as a courtesy to Art 281, so that he did not repeat some of the same advice that I was giving to you. You are a new editor with fewer than 100 edits, so I don't expect you to know everything about Wiki policies and editing culture right away. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 22:22, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Alright then, my mistake. In the meantime, DanaRhys has struck again with reverting my edit for Sierra Leone, using the same bogus Instagram source. Somebody needs to stop them! --Rahu22 (talk) 22:28, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Nothing But Chaos

Just wanted to let you know, I have lost all faith in Wikipedia. It lacks integrity on every level. Having to deal with those two editors is simply not worth it. I don't think I was asking for much, for the Miss Universe page to be as factually accurate as possible. All it has done is set off my OCD! I'm done. I sincerely hope someone else will make sure all that I have tried to contribute to the page won't be in vain. At least I can rest assured that my own extensive personal research on the pageant I have done over the years is FLAWLESS. It's too bad Wikipedia is too short-sighted to realize this and utilize my expertise. Better to leave all of this hot mess behind with my head held high. Michael --Rahu22 (talk) 01:34, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

More Sierra Leone issues

Hi, just letting you know another editor ChristianDaGonGa has also been reverting edits on the Face of Sierra Leone page (with no sources). And DanaRhys has once again reverted the Sierra Leone edits on the Miss Universe 2018 page. What is it about this country that people are so convinced they are competing this year? With no clear evidence that they are, you may have to block both of these editors. --Rahu22 (talk) 17:44, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

@Rahu22: I'm not an administrator, so I don't have the power to block users. However, given what's been happening, this is probably enough to take to the edit warring noticeboard. It's also possible that DanaRhys is a sockpuppet of ChristianDaGonGa. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 19:03, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
I have filed a report at WP:AN3. We'll see what happens next. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 19:12, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

The other edit war

Here we go again, jjj1238 is changing the delegate country names of Slovak Republic and Korea. Like DanaRhys, she just will not give up! Art281 and I have tried AT LENGTH to explain pageant history to her and all she cares about is the COMMONNAME rule, which simply does not apply to Miss Universe. She says there hasn't been a discussion, but you have read it all for yourself. Her latest comment is directed at Art281, who has clarified things when he has made his edits. Looks like you'll have to file an edit war report on this one too (feel free to include me if you have to). Thanks for your ongoing help. --Rahu22 (talk) 05:40, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

I've made a suggestion to take this content dispute to the dispute resolution noticeboard. This disagreement seems to revolve around the interpretation of WP:COMMONNAME. Myself, I don't have enough experience with this policy to contribute an informed opinion. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 06:58, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Signing posts

Thanks, Darell. I will bear this in mind. Have a great day.Ex pat pete (talk) 12:12, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Sierra Leone IS participating

Hi...I just found this on Youtube that shows a sash reserved for Sierra Leone. I will call MUO tomorrow to confirm. Once they add her photo to the official website, can you help me with adding them as the source? I've never done that before. Thanks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKfSVZTQNHs --Rahu22 (talk) 03:53, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

@Rahu22: Sorry, what does MUO mean? I don't know what that acronym stands for. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 05:26, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Jonathan311

Thank you for your advise. If you’d like to, you may also share your opinion (if you hava one) about the location of lithuania. Thanks again Jonathan311 (talk) 09:51, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Sock Puppets - The True Vandals

The reason I deleted my talk comments is because I was wrong about Sierra Leone's participation and it didn't seem like you were interested in helping me. She has not registered and is still absent from the official Miss Universe website. In the meantime, editor Tranhoailam has reverted the edits on the Miss Universe 2018 & Face of Sierra Leone pages (with the same Instagram source). I'll let Art281 deal with it. The preliminary competition is on Dec. 13, so that will prove whether the country is competing or not. --Rahu22 (talk) 18:55, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

@Rahu22: OK. In the future, you can use the <strike> tag to withdraw your past talk comments. The text will remain, but have a line drawn through it. For example:
This <strike>Text to strike</strike>
produces this: Text to strike
It's also customary to include a reason as to why you are striking your previous comments. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 20:40, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Durham Savoyards

Thank you for the feedback.. I am trying to learn and the process for learning how to edit is a bit convoluted to me. How do I withdraw a post? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michaelrowe01 (talkcontribs) 15:10, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

@Michaelrowe01: The article has been deleted, so you don't need to do anything further.
I would first advise you to review Wikipedia's plain and simple conflict of interest guide and paid editing disclosure rules. In short, we discourage people from writing about topics where they have a close personal or professional connection. It isn't prohibited, but with these topics we find that editors have an inherent difficulty sticking to Wikipedia's rules about notability, verifiability, neutrality and no original research.
Creating new articles is one of the most difficult tasks on Wikipedia. I would recommend that you start out by trying the Wikipedia:Tutorial to get familiar with the editing process, then try Wikipedia:Your first article. You can also get help at the Wikipedia:Teahouse, which is a forum for new editors. Best of luck to you. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:20, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
@Drm310: Thank you for the links. I was actually really surprised that there was no page, after finding our group listed in Opera groups in North America. Glad it has been removed.. as I was getting deluged by people telling me the article had problems. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michaelrowe01 (talkcontribs)

You deleted my test page I created

Hello I am new to Wikipedia and I spent hours researching criteria to use when creating a page. I created a page entitled "Luma Sleep" just to get my feet wet and it seems you have deleted it? May I ask why? Where is all of my work that I did on that article? Can you help me get more intuned with Wikipedia so this doesnt happen again? Again I spent litterally 8-10 hours creating that page, as it was my first. Please be kind in retrieving my information and helping out. Reidw27 (talk) 16:38, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @Reidw27: If you read the messages left on your talk page, you'll see that the page read like an advertisement, which Wikipedia does not allow.
See these instructions on how to write an article that doesn't get rejected or deleted if you want to try again. It also solves the problem of spending "8-10 hours" on the page and covers basic back-up principles. Ian.thomson (talk) 16:43, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
@Reidw27: Ian.thomson has summed it up quite nicely. I will also reiterate that you must disclose your paid relationships to any topic you write about. This is a mandatory and non-negotiable policy. Failing to do so will invite sanctions. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 21:36, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.16 15 December 2018

Hello Drm310,

Reviewer of the Year

This year's award for the Reviewer of the Year goes to Onel5969. Around on Wikipedia since 2011, their staggering number of 26,554 reviews over the past twelve months makes them, together with an additional total of 275,285 edits, one of Wikipedia's most prolific users.

Thanks are also extended for their work to JTtheOG (15,059 reviews), Boleyn (12,760 reviews), Cwmhiraeth (9,001 reviews), Semmendinger (8,440 reviews), PRehse (8,092 reviews), Arthistorian1977 (5,306 reviews), Abishe (4,153 reviews), Barkeep49 (4,016 reviews), and Elmidae (3,615 reviews).
Cwmhiraeth, Semmendinger, Barkeep49, and Elmidae have been New Page Reviewers for less than a year — Barkeep49 for only seven months, while Boleyn, with an edit count of 250,000 since she joined Wikipedia in 2008, has been a bastion of New Page Patrol for many years.

See also the list of top 100 reviewers.

Less good news, and an appeal for some help

The backlog is now approaching 5,000, and still rising. There are around 640 holders of the NPR flag, most of whom appear to be inactive. The 10% of the reviewers who do 90% of the work could do with some support especially as some of them are now taking a well deserved break.


Really good news - NPR wins the Community Wishlist Survey 2019

At #1 position, the Community Wishlist poll closed on 3 December with a resounding success for NPP, reminding the WMF and the volunteer communities just how critical NPP is to maintaining a clean encyclopedia and the need for improved tools to do it. A big 'thank you' to everyone who supported the NPP proposals. See the results.


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Water cycle

Drm310, I became a member on 12/8/18 and would like to add to the “Water cycle” article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_cycle). It seems to invite a reference with the words, “In addition, during 793–740 BCE a Hebrew prophet, Amos, stated that water comes from the sea and is poured out on the earth (, ).” Notice especially the last part, (, ). May I suggest adding (Amos 5:8, ESV). Where is the edit button? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul G. Humber (talkcontribs) 16:25, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

@Paul G. Humber: There is a link beside each section heading that says [edit]. That will open the editor window.
Also, another friendly reminder to please sign your posts when posting on a talk page. Thanks. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 16:46, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

You said there is a link beside each section heading that says [edit], but I don't see it. I do see a LOCK that suggests that it is locked to me--that I can't edit. Can I send a screen shot of what I am seeing? Did I get the signature right? 17:04, 20 December 2018 (UTC)Paul G. Humber (talk)PPaul G. Humber (talk) 17:04, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

@PaulG. Humber: Yes, you got the signature right (in fact, you signed twice). I'm not sure what the issue with the lock is, so I don't know how to help you, sorry. Perhaps someone at the Wikipedia:Help desk or the Wikipedia:Teahouse will have a solution for you. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 17:12, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Zivame Undisclosed paid editing / conflict of interest (COI) - Actually I am inspired from their Business

Dear Drm310,

Thanks for addressing Undisclosed paid editing / conflict of interest (COI). Actually I am inspired with their 2 theories like Women running business & Online-offline concept.

Let me start from scratch with the help of wizards for creating page with neutral point of view.

Also will be looking for help from you & several other members to make it happen. As I am creating it first time.

--Vishgohel (talk) 06:52, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Thank you and Merry Christmas!

Thanks for catching the COI edits here. I should have used the COI welcome template instead of the standard one and saved you the trouble, but I'm glad you caught it. Merry Christmas! Huggums537 (talk) 17:51, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

About Disclosure of employment

Hello User:Drm310, I am responding to your message about having a false impression on one of my edits to Jain University, that I have been paid and have an undisclosed financial stake. I am not being directly or indirectly compensated for my edits. Respond to the same where in I can continue with my further edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yagnika Kushi (talkcontribs) 09:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

@Yagnika Kushi: If you are employed by this institution or its parent company, and you are writing about it or any of its affiliated companies, then you are a paid editor. I found a social media page with evidence that corroborates this. Please reconsider your answer. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 16:34, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Removed Page

Hello Admin,

Can you please put the removed Timothy Bheki Ngcobo page back in my sandbox (User:Timothy Ngcobo). I only need the page content - we forgot to make a backup. According to wiki rules we cannot post the profile as is and we do not challenge that as such therefor we will not repost, but would like a copy of the content.

Timothy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Timothy Ngcobo (talkcontribs) 08:47, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

@Timothy Ngcobo: Before I answer that question, can you clarify what you mean by "we"? Does more than one person use your account? --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:18, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

AFA(Atheist Foundation Australia), edit request .

Hi Drm310 ! Thanks for replying , not new to Wiki but the first time I've edited on it , all I can say is it's a good thing I stopped myself from editing everything I could find wrong and out of date with the AFA Wiki page , then going ahead and making the other changes I wanted to make . The part where Kylie Sturgess is no longer president and it's now Scott Sharrad , can easily be cited by just getting on to the [1] website . I wanted to be impartial from the get go atleast concerning the latest Australian Bureau of Statistics [2] with the latest census outcome in 2016 . It was at this point I thought I'd better ask if I can actually make these changes . The part where it says "The foundation publishes six issues of 'The Australian Atheist' per annum ", doesn't exist at the moment and would like to edit that out . [3] The other changes I wanted to make was adding one or two pictures of well known atheists such as Susan B Anthony and Oscar Wilde with a quote of theirs below their pictures , while placing links to their pages somewhere on the AFA Wiki page . The AFA Facebook link is [4] .

Zabebew (talk) 07:45, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

References

@Zabebew: I am going to move your request to the article talk page. It's generally better to leave requests there and use the {{request edit}} template, so you aren't relying on a particular person who may not be available at the time. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:30, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

AFA

Hi Drm310 , Just wanted to say thanks for your help , the page looks a lot better now , all the best in the future :) Zabebew (talk) 08:44, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

You're welcome. Damien Linnane did the heavy lifting so he deserves the credit. Feel free to stick around and contribute to other articles too, if you're interested in doing so. Take care. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:29, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

You've got mail

Hello, Drm310. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.TonyP (talk) 17:13, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

You have email regarding the recently deleted FHISO page.TonyP (talk) 17:13, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

@Tonyproctor: I did not receive any email. In fact, I was unaware that I had that preference enabled at all. I have since disabled it, as I don't like any discussion about Wikipedia to be held offline unless the matter is confidential.
If you have any questions regarding the deletion of FHISO, I suggest you talk to the deleting admin, Bbb23. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 17:36, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

edits

Thank you for your message.

I do not believe edits I have tried to make are abitrary. This page is all about me - and no one else. If I don't want my date of birth listed, I should be able to edit that out.

I have a long time stalker who has been trying to discredit me for years and I believe he is posting information about a DUI. Posting about this has no bearing on my accomplishments, and editing it out is not arbitrary.

I would like to seek a resolution to this. As this page is about me and me alone, I feel I have every right to edit what I don't want on this page if it is harmful to me.

Please help me resolve this and if you cannot, then what is the next step?

Thank you' Patty WagstaffAviatorgypsy (talk) 19:17, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

As advised previously, please move this discussion to Talk:Patty Wagstaff. Leaving comments here won't impact the discussion there or the actions that result from it.
When editors disagree over content, they must follow the proper course of dispute resolution. Throughout the process, it is imperative that one assumes good faith and that editors are trying to help the project and not harm it. Articles should contain only material that complies with Wikipedia's content policies and best practices, and editors must always place the interests of the encyclopedia and its readers above personal concerns.
It begins by talking about the issue on the article talk page. Civil discussion is expected by all parties to address legitimate concerns through a process of compromise while following Wikipedia policies.
If this does not resolve the issues to your satisfaction, you can choose to resolve the content dispute with outside help. The Biographies of Living Persons noticeboard can be used to to raise questions and alerts about violations of biography articles.
One more thing: your statement of "I feel I have every right to edit what I don't want on this page if it is harmful to me" is not 100% true. Of course we want an article about you to be accurate, fair, balanced and neutral – to accurately reflect the sourced, cited opinions of reliable sources. And of course, we would never allow material that is blatantly libellous, or that would represent a clear threat to your life or personal safety. But referring to WP:PROUD:

The neutral point of view (NPOV) policy will ensure that both the good and the bad about you will be told, that whitewashing is not allowed, and that the conflict of interest (COI) guideline limits your ability to edit out any negative material from an article about yourself.

[...]

While having a Wikipedia article may make you a celebrity of some sort, be ready to have your personal life exposed. If you are seen at the side of the road being issued a speeding ticket, and that gets reported, it may end up in an article about you. If your house is foreclosed and this gets reported, it may find its way onto Wikipedia. And if you get into an argument with another person in public, someone may report that in a reliable source, and it will be fair game for Wikipedia.

So, you don't have the unrestricted right to edit out any material you disagree with. If it's been cited from a reliable source, neutrally worded and given due weight, it may be decided that it is appropriate to include. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:48, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi! I'm New

Hello, Thank you kindly for responding to my teahouse query. I have included a 'help me' tag on my user sandbox talk page [[1]] regarding the Bradley Steyn article. Would you keep an eye on this with me, and contribute as much as possible? I am concerned and unsure what my level of involvement in developing the article should be since I know Bradley. I would like to do what I can to provide news coverage that can be cited as sources. Esreekay (talk) 04:19, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

@Esreekay: Hello and sorry for not replying sooner. I think you've gotten some responses to your inquiry in the time that's elapsed, so I'm not sure that I have much more to add. I would advise you to create a draft article using the Articles for creation process. This will let you create a draft article that can be reviewed by a third party editor who can evaluate if it is suitable for publication, or needs further revisions. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 22:09, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

I agree with the request for speedy deletion on my article.

Dear Drm310, I apologize for inconveniencing you and other admin, as I realize that I need a more unbiased opinion on the subject. Have a nice weekend! Alex (talk) 07:49, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

@Gadgetboy456: It's OK. We just don't like people writing about themselves, their work or any topic where they have a personal or professional involvement. That compromises their ability to write about the topic with the required neutral point of view.
Just FYI, I am not an admin - only an experienced volunteer editor. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 07:55, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
@Drm310: Thank you for your advice. I appreciate it, especially because I am a newbie and can never get enough helpful hints about editing, article creation, and stopping vandalism. Now I will not make the same mistake again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gadgetboy456 (talkcontribs)

Article "Serial Expat"

Hello JJMC89,

like I said in my last message about the article, I am going to get the copyright adjusted to fit Wikipedia's needs. That was done.

It now contains the following at the end of the page, as suggested by Wikipedia: The text of this page is available for modification and reuse under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 Unported License and the GNU Free Documentation License (unversioned, with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts).

I would appreciate if you could place the article back in the review process.

Many thanks, Kaethe — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.12.134.96 (talk) 10:38, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Lil ret wikipedia

The idea is to have someone write about me, and not have to write it but i did not have a writer. I wanted to make Lil ret known as an artist,not on a personal note. Wikipedia is a globally known source for knowledge panels and I was trying to distribute a page for my career. I will gladly be happy if you could inform me on who i can contact to make one or get it published. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lil ret (talkcontribs) 19:42, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

@Lil ret: You cannot use Wikipedia to promote your career, as this is a conflict of interest. Using Wikipedia for publicity and promotion is expressly prohibited by policy.
Wikipedia does not allow articles on up and coming people or things. It only allows articles about topics that are notable, as Wikipedia defines notability. To meet the notability requirements for musicians, you must have already received significant coverage from multiple reliable and independent sources. Your own self-published music page or social media pages are not considered reliable because they consist of user-generated content, and will not count toward establishing notability. Mainstream academic and journalistic sources are trusted most, because they have established reputations for fact-checking and editorial oversight.
If you are truly notable enough, then someone else who isn't affiliated with you will eventually be motivated to write an article about you. In the meantime, please consider using alternative outlets where you are allowed to write content about yourself. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 20:08, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
You might also want to review Wikipedia's advice for younger editors, and plain and simple conflict of interest guide. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 20:09, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Atlantic306. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Stacey Gillian Abe, and have marked it as unpatrolled. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.

Atlantic306 (talk) 16:43, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Help me

Dear friend, please do not remove my page, i don't know language of Wikipedia, even English i don't know well. Please help me to create article. Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sasamilivojev (talkcontribs) 16:08, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

@Sasamilivojev: We discourage people from writing articles about themselves. Articles on Wikipedia must be written from an impartial point of view and this is very difficult to achieve when writing about yourself.
You also copied the text from the copyrighted source. For regulatory and legal reasons, we can not allow copyrighted material in Wikipedia.
If you would like help from a native speaker of Serbian, you can try to contact one of the users listed here: Wikipedia:Local Embassy#српски / srpski (sr)
Alternatively, you could try contributing to the Serbian Wikipedia.
(translated using Google / преведено помоћу Гоогле-а)
Обесхрабрујемо људе да пишу чланке о себи. Чланци на Википедији морају бити написани са непристрасне тачке гледишта и то је веома тешко постићи када пишете о себи.
Копирали сте и текст из извора заштићеног ауторским правима. Из регулаторних и правних разлога не можемо дозволити материјал заштићен ауторским правима на Википедији.
Ако желите помоћ другог говорника на српском језику, можете покушати контактирати једног од корисника наведених овдје: Wikipedia:Local Embassy#српски / srpski (sr)
Алтернативно, можете покушати да допринесете српској Википедији.
Good luck / Срећно. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 16:51, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.17

Hello Drm310,

News
Discussions of interest
  • Two elements of CSD G6 have been split into their own criteria: R4 for redirects in the "File:" namespace with the same name as a file or redirect at Wikimedia Commons (Discussion), and G14 for disambiguation pages which disambiguate zero pages, or have "(disambiguation)" in the title but disambiguate a single page (Discussion).
  • {{db-blankdraft}} was merged into G13 (Discussion)
  • A discussion recently closed with no consensus on whether to create a subject-specific notability guideline for theatrical plays.
  • There is an ongoing discussion on a proposal to create subject-specific notability guidelines for chemicals and organism taxa.
Reminders
  • NPR is not a binary keep / delete process. In many cases a redirect may be appropriate. The deletion policy and its associated guideline clearly emphasise that not all unsuitable articles must be deleted. Redirects are not contentious. See a classic example of the templates to use. More templates are listed at the R template index. Reviewers who are not aware, do please take this into consideration before PROD, CSD, and especially AfD because not even all admins are aware of such policies, and many NAC do not have a full knowledge of them.
NPP Tools Report
  • Superlinks – allows you to check an article's history, logs, talk page, NPP flowchart (on unpatrolled pages) and more without navigating away from the article itself.
  • copyvio-check – automatically checks the copyvio percentage of new pages in the background and displays this info with a link to the report in the 'info' panel of the Page curation toolbar.
  • The NPP flowchart now has clickable hyperlinks.

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--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:18, 15 March 2019 (UTC)


Baloney
My boloney has a first name
It's O-S-C-A-R
My baloney has a second name
It's M-E-Y-E-R DlohCierekim 17:05, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
@Dlohcierekim: LOL, that's great. I needed a good laugh. Thanks! --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 17:15, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Regarding disclosure of employment

Hi Drm310,

I am getting back regarding your comment about ESMO Corporation. I replied to you on my talk page, but thought you might not see it so I am replying here too. Thank you again for your comment but as I have already said I am not paid for creating this article and the reason I moved the draft to the article main space directly was because I could't ask for a review. (I have also mentioned this in the comment when moving the draft to the article space). Please, let me know what should be my next step and what do you suggest to do for a cleanup.

Thank you, Narine1202 —Preceding undated comment added 00:57, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

@Narine1202: There is off-wiki evidence that you are employed by the companies that you are writing about. Please reconsider your answer. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:40, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Translating drafts....

...just a heads-up: draft pages are considered out of scope for pages needing translation, so I removed it. Cheers and happy editing. Lectonar (talk) 15:06, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

And actually I have deleted the draft; all the info is already at penile disease. Lectonar (talk) 15:16, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

"zulutimepilot" username change complete

I've changed the username "zulutimepilot" to something else quite innocuous. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CTF99 (talkcontribs) 11:28, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

@CTF99: Thank you for making this change, it is appreciated. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 18:21, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

New post

Thank you for your help. I was inspired by other agency: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StrawberryFrog CU has an art collection which is quite unusual practic in Poland. Is there any comercial way to get Wikipedia description that I didn't know? Thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.67.212.82 (talkcontribs)

@Mtrams:@217.67.212.82: I don't understand what you're asking. A business must be notable according to Wikipedia's notability criteria for companies and organizations to be considered worthy of inclusion. Your draft article was declined because it did not satisfy these criteria.
If you want to continue to write about your own company, you must first make the mandatory disclosure of paid editing before making any further edits on this topic. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 17:36, 1 April 2019 (UTC)