User talk:DoomsDay349/Archive 2

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Re: A quick note

Err, I guess you didn't check my userpage. I actually have my political compass score there: Econ -8.25 Social -8.00. I don't trust representatives to represent anyone but themselves and their financial backers. Economically I'm in favor of a gift economy based on mutual aid and voluntary association without any government to speak of, except perhaps consensus direct democracy. I'm also strongly in favor of decentralization. I lean towards post-leftist anarchism which is largely due to crimethInc.'s writings. And I'll just respond to a few of the criticisms you may have now. Yes, it will be incredibly inefficient in terms of economic production, which I like. People are pushed to the limit in our society to compete and sell their labor just for enough to eat or get a few more consumer goods, which is detrimental to relationships (friends, families, lovers), mental health, physical health, spiritual health, not to mention the environment. And yes, it won't happen overnight and will take a lot of time to get people willing to agree to such a system, and I fully realize that the only way to bring it about is to get people to start doing it--it can't be imposed from above. Ungovernable Force^{Got something to say?} 05:11, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

WikiPlomacy

Trial drafted on User:DoomsDay349/WikiPlomacy/Trial1. Edit as needed.--Ed^{I'm lonely, talk to me} _contribs 19:26, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

I just realised there is another court page at User:Editor at Large/Courtroom. Which one shall we use?--Ed^{I'm lonely, talk to me} _contribs 19:50, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

ahem* executive decision overruled. I'm the judge, it's my courtroom. You can have a trial page under your username that has {{User:Editor at Large/Courtroom}}, but I'm editing on my page. And the trial will start as soon as all positions are filled.
— E ditor at Large ^(speak) 20:41, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Read the message I left Ed about jurors. — E ditor at Large ^(speak) 21:07, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

yep, just get Ed to fill his spots, or Aleith and Biblio if they want to participate. Biblio might want to be security to intervene when things get heated. — E ditor at Large ^(speak) 21:13, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Am back (stuff put off 40 minutes -- 35 now). Overview of court procedures will be listed at User:Editor at Large/Courtroom/Court procedures. Not there yet, but prepare yourself. — E ditor at Large ^(speak) 23:24, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Uh... Mate, we might have a bit of a problem. But only if you didn't already know. JUMP SHIP!!! Mindofzoo999 01:50, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Caption competition

I see that you're a WP:ESP/CL caption competition judge. Would you please rate my late entry? --Friendly Porpoise^{Join the pod!} 02:01, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Mark Dratch

So what's wrong with the page on Mark Dratch? He's a highly respected rabbi who runs an organization that helps people who have been victimized? I keep looking at the page and can't figure out what the big deal is? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DannyCohen (talk • contribs)

David Ohanian

I expanded the David Ohanian article and removed the speedy tag that you added. It's still not a perfect article, but the subject is notable. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 04:57, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Closing vote

Apparently the amendment will be closed on the 31st. D dc c 19:27, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

WikiPlomacy

I need a prelim inquiry date.

The judge will be available on

Thursday, November 2nd 2006 from 16:30 to 17:00 UTC and from 20:00 to 23:00 UTC
Saturday, November 4th 2006 from 20:00 to 24:00 UTC The Honourable Judge's birthday
Sunday, November 5th 2006 from 20:00 to 24:00 UTC

Times subject to change. As it stands, Thursday evening is the best time for the judge.

I have no objections to Thursday. How about you?--Ed^{I'm lonely, talk to me} _contribs 22:35, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

When is the trial going to be? Al e thiophile^{Ask me why} 20:55, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

keep up the good work

yr doin' a mighty fine job thar, partna' Marge4 03:59, 30 October 2006 (UTC) Marge4 03:59, 30 October 2006 (UTC) Marge4 03:59, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

WP:AFD

I wasn't trying to get the article deleted, I thought I was doing the right thing. But thanks for the advice! I'll keep trying on AFD's! --SunStar Net 23:42, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Hoax

Hey there. I had to remove the SD tag you inserted on Silver monkey wolf, as hoaxes cannot be deleted under WP:CSD#G1. Perhaps WP:CSD#A7 could do, but an admin is likely to speedy it anyway.--Hús ö nd 00:06, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

AFDed Webcomics

Hey hey. Turns out I actually love web comics; I read about 10 daily. I just hate to see so much non-notable content filling up Wikipedia. I get that the comic's authors put a lot of work into their art (although in some comics that isn't the case), but that doesn't necessarily make the comic notable. A friend of mine draws comics, but I haven't made a page for them here. Know what I'm saying?

We put things in Wikipedia because of notability, not for the hope that an page here will make them more notable. --Brad Beattie ^(talk) 01:38, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

I see. I'm also a fan of webcomics, though I only really read 8-bit theatre. It just seems that you have some kind of grudge or something, the way so systematically nominate them. :). Dooms Day 349 Happy Halloween! 01:45, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

No no, this isn't grudge. This is just me opening a bunch of pages from the category, putting them all up for AFD, then waiting for general consensus before I put up another 5 or 10. I figure if I did them all at once and people had an issue with it, I'd have wasted some people's time. Best to take it a little at a time. --Brad Beattie ^(talk) 01:53, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Interesting...it's just funny, you know? They're all identical...funny. Dooms Day 349 Happy Halloween! 01:54, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Heh. That's because (A) I'm doing them all at the same and (B) they all fail the notability guidelines for the exact same reasons. But yeah, I see what you mean. :) --Brad Beattie ^(talk) 01:58, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

trial beginning

get going!!! You're late!--Ed ^Trick? or _Treat? 03:37, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

It's starting now?--SU I T ^42! 03:38, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Of course! The defense has agreed to Thursday (today) as the trial date. It is 3:00 UTC, so we've already started late. Please direct yourself to User:Editor at Large/Courtroom--Ed ^Trick? or _Treat? 03:42, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

My editor review

Hello DoomsDay! I recently filed an editor review and was wondering if you could give me some feedback on my edits and on what I need to do to improve myself. Any and all comments would be appreciated. My editor review can be seen here. Thank you for your time and happy editing! // Sasuke -kun27 22:46, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Organizing WikiPlomacy

THe WikiPlomacy page seems to be getting very long. Perhaps we could try and send the seperate country sections into different subpages. These subpages could probably in the userspace of the founders of the nations. On the main WikiPlomacy page, only intranation activity will be posted.--E d ^{¿Cómo estás?} 03:25, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

November Esperanza Newsletter

Program Feature: Admin Coaching (needs coaches!)
Admin Coaching needs coaches!!! If you are an administrator, or even a generally experienced user, do consider signing up to be a coach. Admin Coaching, now being coordinated by HighwayCello, is a program for people who want help learning some of the more subtle aspects of Wikipedia policy and culture. People are matched with experienced users who are willing to offer coaching. The program is designed for people who have figured out the basics of editing articles; they're not newcomers any more, but they might want some help in learning new roles. In this way, Esperanza would help keep hope alive for Wikipedia because we would always be grooming the next generation of admins.
What's New?
The Tutorial Drive is a new Esperanza program! In an effort to make complicated processes on Wikipedia easier for everyone, Esperanza working to create and compile a list of tutorials about processes here on Wikipedia. Consider writing one!
A discussion on how Esperanza relates to the encyclopedia has been started; please add your thoughts.
Many thanks to MiszaBot, courtesy of Misza13, for delivering the newsletter.

The last AC meeting (full log)
The list of proposed programs has been updated, with some proposals being archived. There is now a new program: the Tutorial Drive! Consider writing a tutorial on something you are good at doing on Wikipedia. The suggestion of adding a cohesive look to all the Esperanza pages is being considered; join the discussion if you are interested! In order to make a useful interlanguage welcome template, those involved in translation projects will be asked what English Wikipedia policies are most important and confusing to editors coming from other language Wikipedias. A discussion of Esperanza's role in Wikipedia is being held, with all thoughts of all Esperanzians wanted! Shreshth91 informed everyone that he will be leaving the Esperanza council as life is rather busy; his spot will be filled by the runner up from the last election, HighwayCello.
Signed...
Natalya, Banes, Celestianpower, EWS23, FireFox, The Halo, Shreshth91 and HighwayCello 20:33, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Although having the newsletter appear on everyone's userpage is desired, this may not be ideal for everyone. If, in the future, you wish to receive a link to the newsletter, rather than the newsletter itself, you may add yourself to Wikipedia:Esperanza/Newsletter/Opt Out List.

Cats project newsletter

Hello. Please find here a copy of the first Cats WikiProject newsletter. Please feel free to make any comments, suggestions, etc., here or at the project page itself. Thank you. Badbilltucker 16:18, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

res2216firestar

OK, thanks for the tip.--Res2216firestar 16:32, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

deletion of wikiwar

Wikiplomacy is about to be deleted, if you want to keep it going go here Culv e rin ? ^Talk 10:02, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Images in Sig

I can only wonder if that comment is due to your real conern about WP:SIG or because of the MfD. After all, your own highly colorful and overly long signature could be said to be hard to read. No matter. I will take you on good faith and suggest you look at all these other people (about a 3 minute search) who also used images in their sig.

User:JHMM13 User:Kungfuadam User:Croat Canuck User:Samir (The Scope) User:Alkivar User:Tree Biting Conspiracy User:Ahonc User:Srikeit User:Onthost User:Royboycrashfan User:Swatjester User:Danlina User:General Eisenhower User:Rentastrawberry User:Guðsþegn User:Myciconia User:Nathanrdotcom User:AKMask User:Mmounties User:Grandmasterka User:Nightstallion User:Francs2000 User:Djr xi User:Bourbons3

Cheers! --Shrieking Harpy ^Talk^|^Count 20:04, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

When a discussion is in process. If I had never bothered to respond, would that be a conversation? What the point of 'don't archive in the middle of a discussion' is so that if you are having a serious discussion or an admin is trying to bang a point into your head you don't clean the page off. --Shrieking Harpy

^Talk^|^Count 20:19, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Dooms Day

Today your name is true to our situation. Wikiplomacy is gone. I would just like to pay my respects as I was a firm member of the club. Is there any chance of continueing it somewhere else? Jamo 22:05, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Why's it gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Randfan 22:55, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh, yeah, it's been moved... I was gonna stop eventually...--SU I T ⁴² 05:25, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Editor at Large

You know, I think something's up with her. I know, that's obvious. And as Esperenzians, we should give her WikiLove or something, right?--SU I T⁴² 03:58, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Please see User:Editor_at_Large. The edit may be by a vandal or something? I will do an IP check real quick. Bearly451 talk 04:28, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Please go here. User_talk:70.52.224.233 and User:Editor_at_Large. I think she was sexually abused by her teacher. I don't want to start any rumors, but you have to ask Kyoko or her privately what's happening. Bearly451 talk 04:41, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi there, I respect E@L's right to privacy, so the most I'll say is that someone has grievously wronged her. If you want to know any more, you'll have to ask her personally. She's hurting really badly, and she needs all the support and reassurance you can give her. --Kyok o 20:51, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

I got an e-mail from her, and she said that she will convey her explanation of what happened, sometime in the near future. I'll let her do the talking, OK? Thanks for the smile, though I'm not sure if it's formatted properly. Yes, I am feeling a little better, but still not normal. At least I don't feel suicidal right now. --Kyok o 16:59, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello, Pal!

		The Original Barnstar
		For being a good Wikipedian and Esperanzian and for your good contribtutions.--SU I T⁴² 19:57, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

An award.--SU I T⁴² 19:57, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

re:Dragonlance

Thanks for the congratulations and nice signature. I haven't done any work for it yet because I want to help out on Minotaur Wars but I need to refresh my memory. I thought that they could just use that userbox also if they wanted something a little more flashy but take up more space. I don't see any reason to get rid of it, but maybe you do. Thanks again for the congrats! Randfan 20:20, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Cool, want me to wait for you? I'm not done with Night of Blood, yet. Randfan 20:25, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't no why, but it took me forever to get 260 pages into the first one. Its a good book but its just long. I should finish it this weekend. Randfan 20:28, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

I need to purchase them all (borrowing from the library right now...) Randfan 20:37, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

I have the same need. Its just that around me it seems like they only have part of the series and, in the Blood series, have none. I hearda new store is opening up soon so I hope I'll get them there. Even the library only has this one... Randfan 20:40, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

I wish there was a B&A or Borders, we don't even have an organized mail system (for example: Just this past weekend I got a letter from my Aunt in California (not too far away) that was mailed in July). So, yeah, my case is kinda bad. But not as bad a E@L. Oh, Lord Almighty please help her... Randfan 20:47, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

It is disturbing. And the irony in that was great *chuckle*. Will do. Randfan 20:58, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Lookin' forward to working with you, too. Randfan 21:01, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Adding this to the Wikiproject Novels needed articles list. Tell me if you object. Randfan 01:37, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

don't touch my talk page

Hi, just please don't delete stuff from my talk page, OK? I've sent an e-mail asking E@L how private she wants to keep this, and I'm awaiting a response. Thanks. --Kyok o 21:06, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

OK, I understand. It's just that in the past I have had problems with people typing thoughtless comments on my talk page, and then returning a day or two later to revise whatever they said, after I had already read and answered their messages, so I'm sorry if I wasn't assuming good faith. --Kyok o 21:12, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Raistlin quotes

Hi!! I'm thinking about adding quotes of Raistlin for his Wiki. What do you think?? Helical Rift 22:22 10 November 2006

Sorry I meant the Raistlin Majere page Raistlin Majere. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Helical Rift (talk • contribs)

Barnstar

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		For always being there for your Esperanza friends, have a barnstar. :) bibliomaniac 1 5 Review? 23:04, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Ed

Sure thing, you may want to see his block log, and also the history of my talk page. There is no WP:ANI archive I can refer you to (I got admins through IRC), but he also subsequently disruptively harassed User:Blnguyen for the same thing. It does not surprise me one bit that he's done this to Ral, and frankly, its plain harassment. – Ch acor 00:38, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

E@L and Kyoko

I got some of the story thirdhand, so since you seem to know what's going on, can you help me out with all these terrible goings on with these two editors? thanks--t e h tennisman 02:23, 11 November 2006 (UTC)PS_send me an email if you want it confidential

Esperanza Article of The Month

I added myself as an assistant overseer. If you have to be nominated or something, feel free to take it off. Also, under chief overseer, I think you meant to put you name put you put an extra tilde which produces only the time, and no username. T e ckWiz^TalkContribs_{# of Edits} 03:22, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Article about Wikipedia Users

I am a freelance writer working on an article about the wide array of people who make Wikipedia their life, their passion, their pastime. Wikipedia “addicts” if you will. I’m looking for people just willing to tell their story of how they got sucked into the intellectual whirlwind that is Wikipedia; how you got started editing, how the obsession grew, and what you spend your time focusing on these days? Do you write articles from scratch? Is your main push toward one particular type of article? Do you patrol for typos and errors, or spend your time diligently fixing vandalism? Do you take part in the “social aspects” of Wikipedia; engaging in animated discussions or decorating your user page with all sorts of internet memes? Have you ever forced yourself to take a “Wikipedia break”? If so, what’s your 20/20 hindsight on the obsession? Basically I’m just trying to get an idea of what it’s like for various Wikipedia “addicts.” I'm particularly interested in talking to you about 1) your user page which is more "MySpacey" than most and 2) your thoughts on Esperanza which you seem to be heavily involved in. If you are interested in participating, please email me at brianwrites@gmail.com68.39.158.205 03:37, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Collaboration of the month

Thanks for the thought, but I'll be happy to let some other well-qualified individual fill that role. :) It will be a good time just participating! I'll put something about this and the Tutorial Drive in the news (we won't have another newsletter still after the next advisory council meeting), and see about getting something up on the front page about the two new programs too. -- Nataly a 05:31, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: ECOTM welcome

Thanks for the Welcome. I don't want to seem so incompetent, but I have never collaborated before on a Wiki project. I found the talk page pretty intimidating. I don't want to make work for you, but can you give me a specific project, even if just copy-editing, or a bit of research to do? I am finding myself lacking in BE BOLD lol. If I just need to watch for a month, that is cool too. TIA Carold e rmoid (talk • contribs) 18:35, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

That's cool. I'll watch, then find some Wiki Boldness, lol. Thanks Carold e rmoid (talk • contribs) 18:38, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Userbox:

User:Dfrg.msc/Userbox/WP:EA/COTM

Also I signed up as assistant overseer, If you need anything specific, just ask. Dfrg.m s c ^{1 . 2 . 3} 23:14, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks mate, user boxes are damn good at spreading information, and getting recruits. I'm doing a vandal patrol at the moment so I'll see you later. Thanks, Dfrg.m s c ^{1 . 2 . 3} 00:05, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

How can I join, by the way? And is there a Welcoming Comittee userbox? Randfan 01:39, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Randfan 01:48, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Fair Use in portals amendment

I'm just as confused as you are. Johntex said that it was valid, but now Ned Scott says it doesn't. I've asked for clarification on that page, as well as from several admins, but no response. In addition, amendments pass by consensus, and I'm not sure I'm the right person to decide on that. Furthermore, we haven't decided on any wording, so changing the Fair use page will be complicated. D dc c 02:18, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok. D dc c 02:25, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Twins

No, I'm not excited. … OK another bad joke. :) The ultrasound was yesterday, and the doctors aren't sure yet. But they are twins! — $PЯINGrαgђ Always loyal! 04:35, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

February 14, 2007. — $PЯINGrαgђ Always loyal! 05:03, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Trust me, you and my other friends are usually the first people to know. (The phone lines conduct signals worse than plastic here, especially in the winter.) — $PЯINGrαgђ Always loyal! 05:07, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

apology?

Thanks for the advice but I am not apologizing to anyone. I am simply just not going to edit anymore. If you saw how this whole mess started, you might have seen my side of it. Alansohn and IZAK have been incredibly immature about this. Yes, so have I but this issue was dropped as of last night. I wake up this morning and see that it hasn't which did anger me, hence the harsh words. No they were not anti-Semitic. They were based on my own personal experiences. Helical Rift

Off the topic but have you read Dragons of the Dwarven Depths? I'm in the middle of it now. If you read it, what did you think of it? Helical Rift

Actually, can you tell me how to delete my talk page? If I can't delete that warning, then I want the whole page gone. I do not want it to look like I am the bad guy here. Helical Rift 23:57, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you but I would still like to delete my talk page...Can you tell me how? Helical Rift

Ok thanks. Please let me know. In the meantime, please allow me to erase my talk page in the meantime with the knowing that I will delete my user profile as soon as I find out how to do it. My experience here has been horrendous and I really felt like to was dealing with children on here. Helical

E@L support Barnstar

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		Though what you did is not so random, I, on behalf of E@L, award you this barnstar for your support. Randfan 18:49, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

I should thank you. I'm pretty sure it was you who made realize she was in trouble. Randfan 19:59, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

thank you

Thank you for your support...
Thank you ever so much, DoomsDay349, for your kind words and understanding in my time of need. I deeply appreciate your support, and I hope to be there for you, should you ever need help. — Kyok o

Hello DoomsDay349, and thanks for thinking about both Editor at Large and myself. I saw your discussion in the EA coffee lounge, and to answer your speculation, no, I wasn't in the same type of situation as E@L but at one time I was in an abusive relationship which contributed greatly towards my problems with self-esteem and depression. It's because of that relationship that I am very wary about revealing my full name or address, because I don't know what he'll do to me if he finds me. --Kyok o 01:56, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Heads Up

DoomsDay349 wrote:

I've got a really bad feeling about User:LuckyBuck. Watch out for sockpuppets. Related to this, could you tell me the policy for reporting sockpuppets if they show up? Thanks. Dooms Day34 9 01:04, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi. Suspected sockpuppets can be reported at Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets, however if (as in this case) the user's edits are simply vandalism, use Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism, as the user will then be dealt with much more quickly – Gurch 01:12, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

don't worry

Hi there, don't worry, I'm not going to harm myself. Really. I'm just frustrated at being so prone to depression. BTW, my talk page was blanked by that one user too. Thanks for your concern. --Kyok o 01:20, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thank you for the very "prophetic" words you left on my talk page. Are you a theologian? Anyway, I am a Catholic, and I take my religion very seriously. In fact I have many things I take seriously: liberalism, the Democratic Party, and many other things. I'm not trying to annoy you or anything, I'm just emphasizing our "conflicting beliefs". =) I am now back from my Wikibreak (yay!) and am leaving you this award (Cayenne Chile Pepper)--E d ^{¿Cómo estás?} 01:40, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

The Kindness Award of Ed

This Wikipedian has received the Kindness Award from Ed for going the extra mile to be kind to another person. Please read a nice story on kindness over here. As a reward, I offer this user a random piece of food.

Esperanza collaborators

Can anyone become an Assistant Overseer, and if so, what duties does it entail? -SaturnYoshi ^{THE VOICES} 03:02, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Signature warning

Hello there, I was wondering if you would please modify your signature to conform to the guidelines laid out at Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages. The general guidelines are that signatures shouldn't contain images, they shouldn't contain unnecessary internal links or any external links, and they shouldn't be unnecessarily long in Wiki source. The reasoning for this final bit is that overly long signatures tend to overwhelm the actual comments in edit mode, making it hard to track down and respond to specific comments. You can fix your signature by removing any images and external links, any unnecessary links (like links to Wikipedian organizations, articles, or subpages in userspace), and removing excessive color, font, and formatting code. Thank you. --Cyde Weys 22:29, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

We've responded over at my talk page. --Cyde Weys 02:09, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

What?!?

After I say what a great guy I think you are and how you are what Esperanzans should be like, and then you stab me in the back claiming I'm acting in bad faith with a vendetta, and now you expect me to sum things up for you? No. I'm done with this. You have confirmed what I thought of Esperanza and I, for one, have articles to work on.--Elaragirl ||||||^Talk^|^Count 01:08, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza reform

Hi DoomsDay. Thanks for your constructive response to my comments on the Esperanza MfD page. I doubt Esperanza will be deleted, and I hope you can follow through on your plans for reform. I took a look at Esperanza earlier today, to see what might be in need of reforming, and what stood out in particular was the userpage award. While people are allowed to make their userpages as pretty as they want, it looks to me like the award encourages people to think of such prettifying is a good thing and a productive use of their time. It's much better to give awards for writing articles! Any thoughts? -- SCZenz 03:22, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Cool, thanks. I asked at Wikipedia talk:Esperanza/User Page Award#Can you help me understand the purpose of this page? if anyone can explain why the award is more useful than it appears, so maybe that will lead to some good discussion. -- SCZenz 03:41, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Long Simplified Question

Answer: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:The WikiCouch

I would suggest the ill feeling towards 'Esperanzans' boiled over from here to the current MfD. Addhoc 12:54, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Idea for Esperanza

Hey, DoomsDay, what say we propose to the 'deleters' of Esperanza that Esperanza is given time to prove itself? One month, maybe more, to prove to people that Esperanza is a good association? Reply ASAP, or I have to put it in the MfD. Thanks! Zacharycrimsonwolf 13:14, 14 November 2006 (UTC) 14:54, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

WikiPlomacy pages

Try Special:Whatlinkshere/User:DoomsDay349/WikiPlomacy? -- nae'blis 15:43, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Fair use in portals

Have you prompted on the main fair use page? If not, would bringing it to ArbCom be too extreme? D dc c 16:21, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Your comments at Wikipedia_talk:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Esperanza#Parade_of_the_strawmen

Doomsday, I know that you feel strongly about this issue, but you really should be more civil than that. Saying that you no longer take someone's opinion into value, no matter how much you disagree with them, really isn't approriate. It is absolutely fine to disagree with someone, but regardless of how much disagreement there is, everyone's opinion should be respected. And even if you can't manage that, you should at least be civil about it. -- Nataly a 18:38, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry, you haven't lost my respect, I was just trying to give you some advice. You're right, this is a really stressful situation. That's why the nicer we all can be, the easier it will be. And even if you're wondering what's happening, sometimes taking some time away from the situation can help. -- Nataly a 16:41, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Back

I'm back! Thanks for kepping me company! Randfan 23:01, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Cheer up!

Hey, I hope you're not TOO down..... don't worry, stress is natural and normal, and everybody gets over it. Here's my advice: Relax! Do something that calms you down. It worked for me. Hmm...I think I'll do something for you. Hopefully it makes you smile. Don't worry! Boop Boop! Boop Boop! Be Happy! (eh heh heh...)¡Adios, amigo! K yo cat^(T)•(C) 00:17, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

		The Original Barnstar
		Taking a look at your edits, I couldn't possibly refuse to award you this. Hope you feel better soon, too! ¡Adios! K yo cat^(T)•(C) 00:21, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Feeling Better? K yo cat^(T)•(C) 00:21, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

No prob. I help out users in thier time of misery. Just glad I helped. K yo cat^(T)•(C) 00:34, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I didn't know you were stressed! Feel better soon, mate! I gotta getya somethin' to cheer you up! Randfan 00:42, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry DoomsDay, the debate took a lot out of all of us. Take some time to relax. I hope you feel better soon; we need you around to help us with all of the ways we're going to improve Esperanza. Cheers, EWS23 (Leave me a message!) 00:46, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi there, I'm sorry that you're feeling stressed about the whole Esperanza MfD thing. I think a lot of people, on both sides, are feeling the stress. In Elaragirl's defense, I truly believe that she is acting out of concern for Wikipedia and not out of disdain for Esperanzians. She just expresses herself more bluntly than I would if I were in her position. You have to admit that she has a certain wit. Just so you know, the only part of Esperanza I strongly feel should be kept is the Alerts page, and I could take or leave most everything else. I guess my position is somewhere between the "keepers" and the "deleters". I wouldn't personally try to delete the whole of Esperanza, but I'm not emotionally attached to a lot of it either. Take the coffee lounge. While I think it's occasionally fun to participate, there are times when I am rather put off by the sense of humour that prevails there. I personally think that Esperanza will end up being a smaller, but more well-defined project. Anyway, I hope that you and everyone else recovers from the whole experience. --Kyok o 04:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello there! Stress, eh? Apparently the Esperanza incident thing, eh? Well, it's still around, isn't it? Don't let stress get to you, or something similar, as you've told me some time ago. And cheer up, man. I have a tumor and I don't much mind yea, I do... I hope this helps as I'm truly not good at this. itried cheering up this girl whose cat died, but ended up making her cry and smack me in the face... Heh... Well, cheers,--SUIT^What!?⁴² 05:22, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

well, if the ending of that didn't cheer you up, nothing will! *Hahahaha* --Randfan 01:08, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

File:Esperanza.Coffee.gif

Perfectly percolated coffee, Esperanza's own blend.

I hope this cheers you up, you are a wonderful Esperanzian! Jam 01 00:50, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

No offence meant, none taken. I just posted it at the lounge because the kid was being very agressive; I needed a quick response, and the Help Desk is often swamped, I believe, so I avoided it.

Thanks for taking the time to write, by the way. I imagine you and many others are quite busy with the Esperanza hullaballoo.

Marialadouce has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!

And a smile in return.

Marialadouce | parlami 12:12, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm glad I made you laugh

And I'd expand it, but I don't know what to expand it with! Guess I'll wait til inspiration strikes. :) Dev920 (Please peer review here.) 00:35, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Sure, edit my page if you want. If it gets long enough we can move it to Wikipedia: space and make it a real essay... Dev920 (Please peer review here.) 00:39, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Go for it. :) Dev920 (Please peer review here.) 00:42, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Here you go. I had to prefix index myself cos I'd forgotten too. :)

User:Dev920/Absolutely and completely, totally and utterly devestating

Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 22:39, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome! Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 22:47, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

re:in my defense

Thanks for that. Glad yo believe me (thiugh, I didn't have any doubts). :) --Randfan

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		For supporting me, keeping me company, believing me, and for being my friend. And kind, obviously. Thanks! Randfan 01:06, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

No problemo! And did you take out the #'s in your sig. so you wouldn't get vandaled again? ;) You most certainly deserved it. Randfan 01:20, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Dragonlance artifacts

Hi...thanks for the welcome. I saw the "to do" list and have already added the Helm of Grallen in the artifacts list. MetsFan76 02:04, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I noticed the list and was wondering if there is anything specific that really needs work ASAP MetsFan76 02:23, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: False Sockpuppetry

What message? —The Gr e at Llama ^talk 22:11, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh, never mind. —The Gr e at Llama ^talk 22:12, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Coffee Lounge MfD

I noticed that Coffee Lounge was deleted. The thing is, you only nominated it today. It would be easy to nominate it, tell people who share your opinion to vote "Delete", then show an admin the "consensus" in favor of delete and have them delete the page before any "Keep" votes show up. I am trying to assume good faith, but something doesn't smell right. Al e thiophile ¹2₃ 19:13, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Please be civil. I am simply wondering why there were absolutely no "Keep" votes. I would have certainly voted "Keep", but the first time I heard about the MfD was when I tried to access the coffee lounge to try out my new signature. By that time, it was already deleted. I had no notice, except that the CL was a major reason for "Delete" votes in the all-Esperanza MfD. No one who wasn't on the CL between early this morning and now would have known that it was under MfD. This might have kept away a significant number of voters, who simply might not have known about the MfD until it was too late. At least some of these might have been "Keep" votes. The situation is analagous to the US deciding a president based on poll data from only the first hour of voting. The consensus from the first day is by no means indicative of the consensus over the proper five-day period. It seems unreasonable that the MfD was closed only one day (if that) into the comment period. Al e thiophile ¹2₃ 22:41, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Congrats!

Thank you very much! I have rejected several, 5 or 6 suggestions, and was not sure about accepting this one. However, being an administrator won't change me, and I will be editing articles just as before, although I may be able to help other administrators with tasks that usually need a couple of extra hands. Thanks again! -- ReyBrujo 21:10, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza

I have seen quite a lot lately about the project. I won't say a lot, because I am not a member, don't want to be one, and don't know about most of their rules. However, I must tell you that, while certain pages don't belong to Wikipedia, others may. Esperanza is a group where people appear to share conversations that have little related to Wikipedia. Apparently, such page would not fit Wikipedia per our policy, and it is true. However, it is also true that it helps people have a place for relaxing. Editing at Wikipedia can be stressing, and such place is welcomed. Check the essay Wikipedia:WikiLawyering: follow the spirit, not the letter. Remember, we work via consensus, and trying to impose a position would only bring stress. Sometimes, it is better to give time for people to accommodate to future changes. What may not be done now may be done in a year. We have plenty of time. Just a comment I thought I would share with you. Good luck! -- ReyBrujo 00:19, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Just to clarify, whenever an article is deleted, all your edits in that article disappear from your contribution list. Good luck with your future plans! -- ReyBrujo 00:57, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

I'd just like to point out that if Wikipedia is really getting stressful (which it shouldn't), the best solution is to take a break. Unlike real life, you have the capability of entirely withdrawing for a few days, or however long is needed. That is definitely the best solution to stress. I wish it worked in the real world. Having on-wiki places for "relaxing" is kind of counter-productive because it keeps people around in the environment that was causing stress in the first place when the best solution is to get away from that stressful environment. I can personally vouch for the WikiBreak; I went on one and it worked wonders. --Cyde Weys 01:40, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

A Barnstar Just for You!

		Esperanza Barnstar
		For being a friendly, polite and all-round nice Esperanzian, I am proud to award you this barnstar. Please keep up the great work! We need more editors like you! Jam 01 04:24, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the nice response!! Jam 01 05:50, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar Overload

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		For being such a hard worker throughout EA's recent crisis, and for all your efforts at the COTM. Excellent job! :) riana_dzasta 09:02, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

The Forum

I'm working on the EA Forum (if it gets put into effect) on User:Ed/Sandbox. It still need major revising, but it's a start.--Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 02:37, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Help with Userboxes

Hallo, D-d349! I noticed that you have created quite a lot of userboxes already (I love the Dragonlance one). As it is, I am in trouble trying to create a userbox with pictures. I want a picure in the id section of the userbox, not just words. So, can you be so kind as to teach me, or at least, explain the way to paste a picture in the userbox? In case I'm being very confusing, take this for example:

This user is a member of the Dragonlance WikiProject.

See the red dragon? Thats the one I'm talking about. No words, unlike:

DL

This user is a member ofWikiProject Dragonlance.

So...I hope I have been clear enough. I would be very grateful if you would shoulder the burden of teaching me. Well, bye! Thanks in advance! Cheers!! Zacharycrimsonwolf 13:14, 14 November 2006 (UTC) 14:21, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Sigh...I've been trying that the whole time, but it still doesn't work!! AArgh!!! What is wrong with it?! Ah ha! I'll shish kebab it!! Meanwhile , perhaps you can find a way to put this picture/image :

into this userbox...:

SH

This user is a member of WikiProject Shannara.

Thanks!! Zacharycrimsonwolf 13:14, 14 November 2006 (UTC) 13:43, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Ooh!! Thanks! It helped. A LOT. Very many thanks to you!! Cheers!! Zacharycrimsonwolf 13:14, 14 November 2006 (UTC) 13:07, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

happy Turkey Day!!!!!

I wish you a very merry Thanksgiving! Hope you and your family have a magnificent day! So, what are you thankful for? Hooray and happy gormandizi^ŋ! --Randfan _{please talk talk to me!}

Have a great day! Please respond on my talk page (the red "fan" link in my signature). Cheers! :) —Rand fan !!

Cheers! :) —Rand fan !! has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile at others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!

I'll second that one =). I'm sitting here as the turkey is getting cooked!--Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 01:10, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Fair use in portals (again)

The amendment is still alive, though it's gotten stale. If you have any new opinions, we would like to hear them. Also, your talk page is a bit long. Consider archiving it. D dc c 21:00, 25 November 2006 (UTC)