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Primer (film)

How is Kyle Kallgren not a notable reviewer? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Espngeek (talk • contribs)

Well, that there's no article about them doesn't fill me with confidence, for starters.

Please note that new Talk threads should generally be placed at the bottom of the page, and signed with four tildes (~). DonIago (talk) 19:42, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

I note that you're in a similar dispute with a different editor who had the same concern, which also doesn't reassure me. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 19:43, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

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MOS:BOLDAVOID

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Magical_Negro_occurrences_in_fiction&diff=848286050&oldid=848276528

Are you aware of what the article title is? Confirm by reproducing it here. 51.7.17.178 (talk) 04:42, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

I don't feel obligated to respond to such a patronizing request. Are you aware of what MOS:BOLDTITLE says? DonIago (talk) 04:46, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Haha. You leave an edit summary like this one and then complain that I am patronising you? Still, by the look of your edits, you've realised that you made an error, though you lack the integrity to admit it. For the avoidance of doubt:

MOS:BOLDTITLE says "If an article's title is a formal or widely accepted name for the subject, display it in bold as early as possible in the first sentence." You were unable to confirm what you understood the article's title to be: it is "List of Magical Negro occurrences in fiction". Thus, if that text appeared in the first sentence, it should be in bold face. But you edit warred to keep the text "Magical Negro" and "numinous Negro" in bold. Neither of those are the article title. MOS:BOLDAVOID says "In general, if the article's title is absent from the first sentence, do not apply the bold style to related text that does appear." Additionally, "Magical Negro" is a link to the corresponding article. MOS:BOLDAVOID says "Links should not be placed in the boldface reiteration of the title in the opening sentence of a lead." So even if you had not been wrong about the article title, you'd still have been wrong.

I do not think it is an onerous requirement for editors to be familiar with the manual of style. Apparently you've been editing for a decade. If you're not familiar with the manual of style by now, I dread to think what damage you've been doing all this time. 51.7.17.178 (talk) 06:47, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing your concerns to my attention. DonIago (talk) 15:05, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

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Al Green

Hello Doniago,

I received your response to my post which details that Al Green did cover The Doors song Light My Fire on his Al Green Gets Next To You album. That part we know is true therefore the source is the piece of work itself, the album and the song. It (the song) is listed as song #7 on the album and is attributed as written by the four (4) members of the Doors. I may not have cited the content correctly and that may be why the pst was rejected? Am I missing something by listing the source as an already approved citation within Wikipedia?

If so the source for the album would be:

Gets Next to You - Al Green | Songs, Reviews, Credits | AllMusic. (2018). AllMusic.

The source for the song would be:

Light My Fire - Al Green | Song Info | AllMusic. (2018). AllMusic.

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Have you reviewed WP:SONGCOVER, as I mentioned in the note I left for you? DonIago (talk) 04:43, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

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Prince Caspian reverts

I won't take you task for reverting my observation that between one film and the next, the same character loses his Spanish accent. He does, and even you must admit it; but because no critic pointed this out in print, the reversion must stand, and I respect it.

But you reverted my interjection on the subject of catapults --people can actually get seriously miffed because the siege weapons don't operate to strictly medieval standard-- which appeared on a Talk page. You can say anything you like on a Talk page. Yes, if a conversation gets very rambling and flamey, by all means clean it up for posterity. But deleting a comment so rapidly? What is the justification? I made a perfectly serious point: it is a fantasy film, and given the numerous contusions to logic and verisimilitude it has already committed; surely bickering about the mechanics of a computer-animated siege weapon is losing sight of that point! Nuttyskin (talk) 12:09, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Have you read WP:NOTFORUM, as I suggested in my edit summary? Did you observe that you were responding to a thread that was almost ten years old? DonIago (talk) 13:18, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Actually, that was my mistake. The correct link would have been WP:NOTCHAT. My apologies. DonIago (talk) 13:19, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

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	Sleep Walk
	I appreciate that you noticed my addition to your page on Sleep Walk. The fact that this record played a significant part in the movie Stephen King's Sleepwalkers can simply be verified by watching the movie itself. Sussmanbern (talk) 16:00, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the Wikilove! I don't own the Sleep Walk page, though; nobody does. As discussed at WP:IPCV, which I linked you to, when discussing pop culture references, you need to provide a source that demonstrates not only that the reference occurred, but that it was considered significant in some manner. Or as I tend to put it, you need to prove not only that the tree fell in the woods, but that it made a sound when it fell. Hope this helps! DonIago (talk) 16:21, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

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August 2018 - von Bülow

All clear DonIago, I had misunderstood. WP:IPCV is a new issue to me I must admit (I thought you had removed the list because of WP:V). What I know - other editors might find sources if they think it important - is that this tv appearance by von Bülow is unique (because of his legal status). Which is why I bothered to add the reference in the first place. The significance may be sourced to the programme itself (see Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Television#Is_television_its_own_source?) but probably best I leave this for now. Thanks for your care. AnOpenMedium (talk) 15:20, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Hopefully the appearance is significant enough to have been covered outside of a primary source. The way I like to put it is that we need to establish not just that the tree fell in the woods, but that it made a sound when it fell. Thanks for understanding! DonIago (talk) 15:28, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

The best I can do quickly (without going to our archive store, which is out of town) is this link to an archived secondary source, the ITN archive of 2004. Does this help? AnOpenMedium (talk) 17:11, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

I can't view it right now due to firewall issues. Could ask at the article's Talk page though! DonIago (talk) 19:57, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Not sure what else to ask at the Talk page, nor what the firewall issues are (we don't have any special access to this site, it seems to be something like - or perhaps is part of - the Wayback machine, and the link works fine on the PC I have here). In any case I've copied the relevant part of the ITN summary here:

AFTER DIANA 13.9.97 With Helena Kennedy

Shortly after the death of Princess Diana, Beatrix Campbell speculated about Diana's life. Historian and royalist Frank Prochaska comments that there were not three people in her marriage but four, as Bea was obviously there as well. Unique appearance by Claus von Bulow, recently acquitted of poisoning his wife.

Does this help? Sorry btw for using "archive" three times in one sentence in my last post, each time to mean something else, just too much typing! AnOpenMedium (talk) 08:57, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

I'd really prefer to see something more substantive than a one sentence casual mention, but it may be worth asking how other editors feel at the article's Talk page. I can only give you my own opinion. :) Thanks for understanding my concerns and coming to me to discuss them calmly, though! Too many editors seem to take it as a matter of personal pride if/when their edits are reverted for any reason. DonIago (talk) 13:01, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

No problem! However given your initial larger-scale deletion (and my potential WP:COI) I suggest it is better if you take up discussing with other editors. This business of establishing substantial secondary sources for popular culture is a bit over my head, and would seem to cover so very many pages on here. To me, as indicated above, my view is tv is its own source but I appreciate that this is not quite the point at issue. So I'll leave this to others now. Thanks for being careful. AnOpenMedium (talk) 15:53, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

I've asked the question. DonIago (talk) 18:23, 17 August 2018 (UTC)