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Tech News: 2021-22

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

  • There was an issue on the Vector skin with the text size of categories and notices under the page title. It was fixed last Monday. [1]

Changes later this week

  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

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17:04, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 21

News and updates associated with user scripts from the past four months (February through May 2021).

Hello everyone and welcome to the 21st issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:

My apologies for this long-overdue issue, and if I missed any scripts.
Hopefully going forward we can go back to monthly releases - any help would be appreciated. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 13:04, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2021-23

The winner this Translation of the week is

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A breakthrough infection is a case of illness in which a vaccinated individual becomes sick from the same illness that the vaccine is meant to prevent. Simply, they occur when vaccines fail to provide immunity against the pathogen they are designed to target. In April 2021, the CDC reported that in the United States there were 5,814 COVID-19 breakthrough infections, and 74 deaths, among the more than 75 million people fully vaccinated for the COVID-19 virus.

(Please update the interwiki links on Wikidata of your language version of the article after each week's translation is finished so that all languages are linked to each other.)

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Wikidata weekly summary #471

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Development
    • You can now add a title to a query visualisation by adding #title:YourTitle to your SPARQL code (phab:T225883, example query with a title)
    • Added a new constraints type to indicate that a certain Property should only be used on Lexemes of a certain language (phab:T200689)
    • Working on not checking the format constraints via SPARQL to take that load off the SPARQL endpoint and make it technically better (phab:T176312)
    • Working on making the API-Sandbox not suggest edits to real Items (phab:T219215)


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Tech News: 2021-23

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 June. It will be on all wikis from 10 June (calendar).

Future changes

  • The Wikimedia movement uses Phabricator for technical tasks. This is where we collect technical suggestions, bugs and what developers are working on. The company behind Phabricator will stop working on it. This will not change anything for the Wikimedia movement now. It could lead to changes in the future. [2][3][4]
  • Searching on Wikipedia will find more results in some languages. This is mainly true for when those who search do not use the correct diacritics because they are not seen as necessary in that language. For example searching for Bedusz doesn't find Będusz on German Wikipedia. The character ę isn't used in German so many would write e instead. This will work better in the future in some languages. [5]
  • Advanced item The CSRF token parameters in the action API were changed in 2014. The old parameters from before 2014 will stop working soon. This can affect bots, gadgets and user scripts that still use the old parameters. [6][7]

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20:01, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

Hi Donald, thanks for erasing the offensive content on my user talk page in Catalan Wikipedia. It is an IP of a banned sockpuppet on Vietnamese Wikipedia. He's been using IP to write many articles, some of whose name do not comply with the policy. Me trying to correct those names probably drove him mad, that's why I received those offensive insults. Anyways, thanks again. Hope you have a nice day. Băng Tỏa 11:29, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
@Băng Tỏa:, I am familiar with the person, they are a prolific Flickr user (that are unfortunately blacklisted on Wikimedia Commons because of dishonest attribution and licensing), they are very active on Wikimedia Commons and I am currently monitoring three (3) active socks by them (generally good edits and have reverted some bad ones), usually he only gets foul as an IP and not with his logged accounts. I saw him vandalise the page "User talk:Lệ Xuân" on this Wikipedia, but noticed that his insults on the Catalan-language Wikipedia weren't removed so I did it as I hoped that you wouldn't have to read it.
Anyhow, he has a lot of good edits and I hope that he can return to Wikipedia one day if he learns his mistakes, but he simply refuses to listen to others and collaborate properly with fellow volunteers. :-( --Donald Trung (talk) 22:32, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: May 2021



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Wikidata weekly summary #472

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  • Other Noteworthy Stuff
    • Wikidata Community/Diversity 2021 Survey has been published. The results are meant to serve as a baseline to see how the community might (not) change in the future.
    • WikidataCon 2021: A sustainable future for Wikidata. Information about "the conference theme, its three-day program structure and a special project on diversity taking place before the conference itself".
    • The call for candidates for 2021 Wikimedia Foundation Board elections has begun on June 9. The last date to apply is June 29, 2021.
  • Development
    • Working on no longer using the Query Service to evaluate Constraints Checks regular expressions (this should make our checks faster and allow for further improvements) (phab:T176312)
    • Changing the rate limits for assigning Item IDs further, which should result in even fewer Q-IDs being skipped in the future (phab:T284538)
    • Finalizing the concepts for a tool to help work on mismatches between Wikidata's data and other databases/websites/...

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Tech News: 2021-24

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Logged-in users on the mobile web can choose to use the advanced mobile mode. They now see categories in a similar way as users on desktop do. This means that some gadgets that have just been for desktop users could work for users of the mobile site too. If your wiki has such gadgets you could decide to turn them on for the mobile site too. Some gadgets probably need to be fixed to look good on mobile. [8]
  • Language links on Wikidata now works for multilingual Wikisource. [9]

Changes later this week

  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

  • In the future we can't show the IP of unregistered editors to everyone. This is because privacy regulations and norms have changed. There is now a rough draft of how showing the IP to those who need to see it could work.
  • German Wikipedia, English Wikivoyage and 29 smaller wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on 22 June. This is planned between 5:00 and 5:30 UTC. [10]
  • All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes in the week of 28 June. More information will be published in Tech News later. It will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks. [11][12]

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20:25, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Editing news 2021 #2

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Junior contributors comment completion rate across all participating Wikipedias
When newcomers had the Reply tool and tried to post on a talk page, they were more successful at posting a comment. (Source)

Earlier this year, the Editing team ran a large study of the Reply Tool. The main goal was to find out whether the Reply Tool helped newer editors communicate on wiki. The second goal was to see whether the comments that newer editors made using the tool needed to be reverted more frequently than comments newer editors made with the existing wikitext page editor.

The key results were:

  • Newer editors who had automatic ("default on") access to the Reply tool were more likely to post a comment on a talk page.
  • The comments that newer editors made with the Reply Tool were also less likely to be reverted than the comments that newer editors made with page editing.

These results give the Editing team confidence that the tool is helpful.

Looking ahead

The team is planning to make the Reply tool available to everyone as an opt-out preference in the coming months. This has already happened at the Arabic, Czech, and Hungarian Wikipedias.

The next step is to resolve a technical challenge. Then, they will deploy the Reply tool first to the Wikipedias that participated in the study. After that, they will deploy it, in stages, to the other Wikipedias and all WMF-hosted wikis.

You can turn on "Discussion Tools" in Beta Features now. After you get the Reply tool, you can change your preferences at any time in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing-discussion.

–Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)

00:27, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Undelete can't be given to non-admins

A "Page viewers" user group won't happen. For legal reasons only admins can see deleted content. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 23:20, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

@Alexis Jazz:, but why? There is nothing inherently special about admins as they also come in different levels (Checkusers, Bureaucrats, Stewards, Etc.), technically elections like these can also be held for "Page viewers" and they can also be "confirmed by the WMF". Admins simply have more tools, they are not an anointed special race that are above others and your proposal for "Maintainers" also would've delegated a lot of admin powers to a new user group. Note that it's not the ability to undelete, only to view deleted items. --Donald Trung (talk) 07:59, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
Checkuser and Bureaucrat are roles that technically can be given to someone who is not an admin. And this is exactly why "maintainers" wouldn't have had undelete. It's due to copyright. People who patrol and clean up copyright violations get undelete because they need it. Nobody else. It's just a legal issue. Access to copyright violations has to be very strictly controlled. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 11:46, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
@Alexis Jazz:, but Page viewers also wouldn't have undelete, at most they can nominate a page for undeletion like how a new user could nominate an existing page for deletion, but they can't share copyright violations anymore than any other user can, just view them. Page viewers can't restore anything, just see what's deleted.
"People who patrol and clean up copyright violations get undelete because they need it." This is for people that need access to currently deleted items but can't undelete them themselves, that would still be up to admins. --Donald Trung (talk) 11:59, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
It's not about sharing. They are not allowed to have access to copyright violations. Who can undelete doesn't matter, non-admins are not allowed to have access to deleted content or Wikimedia could legally be judged as a private file sharing site. This is a legal limitation, not a consensus issue. Just forget this. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 12:07, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
@Alexis Jazz:, ah, I am somewhat genuinely surprised that there is a legal distinction between admins and non-admins as we usually hear that "admins are just users with extra tools" but this is apparently untrue? What qualifies admins to be different in the eyes of the law? Is it their ability to delete content? --Donald Trung (talk) 12:17, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
I'm not really sure what the law says, but I roughly know the WMF guidelines. (no idea if/where they are written down) Compare fair use law and WP:NFCC. People with undelete have to be thoroughly vetted and they have to actively help maintain the site. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 12:35, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
See also: https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Blockers (which I think is a horrible idea, but does show the technical ability to give currently exclusive admin rights to other (new) user groups). --Donald Trung (talk) 08:01, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
Going over it again I think that I misworded the proposal, largely because it started as "an afterthought", these users can only see deleted pages but not edit or undelete them, they have a "Request undeletion" button that opens an undeletion request like a "Nominate for deletion" button does the opposite. The pages won't be visible to anyone other than users with this right until a page has been undeleted by an admin. --Donald Trung (talk) 08:06, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
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