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Rotherhithe Tunnel to close from Sunday to Thursday nights for the next three weeks for installation of pedestrian signage, power cables and additional pollution monitoring equipment.
December 2009
Oyster Pay-as-you-go introduced across all London stations in early January
Wrightbus to build the routemaster-based new London bus design
RMT accepts London Underground's staff payment deal
Closure of Fareham Street means bus diversions. This is so that there can be construction works on the Crossrail interchange at Tottenham Court Road station.
Arbiter finds that costs of Tube Lines upgrade closer to London Underground ltd estimate than theirs.
Leigible London scheme introduced to make information more available for pedestrians. This is first being used in the borough of Richmond upon Thames
When the London cycle hire scheme is launched, the first half hour will be free
Over £3 million to be spent on improving loca transport in Merton borough and other funding allocated to ther boroughs across London for transport improvements
Borough High Street to be northbopund only untril July due to major utility and gas works
Redevelopment of Tottenham Court Road to begin in early 2010
Permits for roadworks to be introduced on January 11th 2010
ING direct sponsor free travel on the Underground at New Year's Eve
Maida Vale tube station received the National Rail Heritage Award due to its modernisation
Member News
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General
Baker Street and Waterloo Railway is now a candidate for featured article. Otherwise this and the last last couple of months have again been fairly quiet. The portal went through a candidacy for featured portal with not much luck. The areas of the portal are becoming more active with the voting and changing of the selected pictures and articles. The transport news seems has started to be updated again but with the most up-to-date news being in this newsletter. Did you know is being improved.
As usual all suggestions to improving the Metropolitan are welcome so if you have one we would be happy to hear from you.
Hello and Happy New Year from me and generally the London Transport project.
Thank you to Sunil060902 for the December gallery update
If you think there is anything else i have missed, please drop me a note or leave a message at The Metropolitan's feedback page. Also if you feel you want to do an edition, again leave me a message.
Again i would like to state this newsletter is looking for anyone willing to do an issue.
Discussion arose over the addition or removal of succession boxes showing the present London Underground lines and their histories as well as former services. Another discussion arose on boxes showing stations layouts
Separate issues arose over the population of aboandoned London Undeground projects categories and categories on single station platforms
...that Belsize Park station is one of the only eight stations in London to have a deep level bomb shelter beneath it?
…that Mile End tube station is the only station on the London Underground network from which it is possible to reach any other station with only a single change of train?
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Hi, can you direct me to the discussion from 18 months ago which you mentioned about linking in railway template headers? It'd be useful for future reference. Thanks! Cnbrb (talk) 23:37, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
No problem - I did a prelimary search last night but could not find it. I have been linking as you had been and I think it was User:AlisonW who started taking them off as the same time the v.d.e legend appeared at the top. I started adding the main article tag to the templatees at the same time. will get back to you once I have completed reviewing the relevant talk pages. ~~----
That's be good, thanks. I'd rather know what has been discussed so I don't introduce other things that have been decided on. I just worked on the basis of the guidelines here but obviously I've missed something. 10:00, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
PS please forge ahead with the ESSJR articles - I just went around the line bringing the articles up to a basic stub standard as there was very little in them, but I don't have much more to add.Cnbrb (talk) 10:00, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
Motorcycling is to get safer with the creation of the London Motorcycle Policy Unit, a division of the Metropolitan Police that is a new dedicated team of motorcycle safety experts working to reduce motorcycle casualties across the Capital.
Major improvement works set for the New Cross area
Smart Travel Sutton scheme sees a 75% increase in cycling and sustainable transport usage in the brough of Sutton
Taxi fares to increase by 2.3 per cent to meet higher running costs
New Pegasus crossings intalled over A3 between Wimbledon Common and Richmond Park
Bounds Green has gained Grade II Listed status from English Heritage
January 2010
A new walking route from Covent Garden to Holborn is completed, with a public space at Great Queen Street at its centre
RMT strike planned
London Undeground celebrate's the Royal Society's 350th Anniverseary with a set of poems
DLR Bank platforms reopen in February following upgrade works
Investment Programme Advisory Group set up
Bus routes 10 and 33 will become 24 hour services
Life stories are introduced on the Jubilee Line
Average speed cameras to be trialled on the A13
Safety, lighting and communication improvement works are to begin february to bring Blackwall Tunnel to 21st century standards
Twelve Outer London boroughs are selected to become cycling havens
Grants are given to community groups to boost cycling
New posters on the Underground network help to promote face equality to help tackle stereotypes on children with disfigurements
East London Line extension nearly complete
Rotherhithe Tunnel to close from Sunday to Thursday nights for the next three weeks for installation of pedestrian signage, power cables and additional pollution monitoring equipment.
Oyster Pay-as-you-go introduced across all London stations in early January
Member News
APHST (talk·contribs) joins the project bringing our total number of participants to 78. Welcome to APHST!
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The portal went through a candidacy for featured portal with not much luck. The areas of the portal are becoming more active with the the voting and changing of the selected pictures and articles. The transport news seems has started to be updated again but with the most up-to-date news being in this newsletter. Did you know is being improved. The portal has had a new selected biography section added to bring it up to standard. Please vote at Portal:London Transport/Vote. The current biography is Charles Pearson.
As usual all suggestions to improving the Metropolitan are welcome so if you have one we would be happy to hear from you.
Please also could people submit suggestions for DYKs or does anyone want to do the next issue?
London General articulated Citaro passing Trafalgar Square on route 453.
Arriva London articulated Citaro turning in Shaftesbury Avenue, on now double-deck route 38.
Three Transdev London buses lined up, decorated for the Kingston park and ride.
A Northern Line train leaving the tunnel just north of Hendon Central station.
A Greyhound UK coach, usually running between London, Southampton and Portsmouth, seen in Cowes on the Isle of Wight on a promotional visit.
From the editor
Hello and Happy New Year from me and generally the London Transport project.
Thank you to Arriva436 for the February gallery update
If you think there is anything else i have missed, please drop me a note or leave a message at The Metropolitan's feedback page. Also if you feel you want to do an edition, again leave me a message.
Again i would like to state this newsletter is looking for anyone willing to do an issue.
Upminster Bridge tube station was promoted to good article status in early February. Well done to all those involved. This is apparently the first tube station to be accepted as a Good Article.
All articles have been assessed of their quality with only some of the articles' importance to the project yet to be determined. Well done on the assessment.
Discussion arose over the addition or removal of succession boxes showing the present London Underground lines and their histories as well as former services. Another discussion arose on boxes showing stations layouts
Separate issues arose over the population of aboandoned London Undeground projects categories and categories on single station platforms
New guidelines have been proposed for railway accidents. Please see WP:RAILCRASH.
...that Belsize Park station is one of the only eight stations in London to have a deep level bomb shelter beneath it?
…that Mile End tube station is the only station on the London Underground network from which it is possible to reach any other station with only a single change of train?
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Another issue to be adressed is, please could people indicate in the next month at the feedback page or on my talk page whether they still want to recieve issues of the metro. A lot of newsletters seem to be going to redundant pages. Simply south (talk) 20:00, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
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International ease
Cnbrb, You rewrote the beginning of West Hampstead stations rephasing "intro para for international audience". I do not understand how international readers' ease of understanding is a criterion for what is written in WP. There are many articles (eg about mathematics) which a reasonably educated native speaker of English would not understand. Though if we allow that the foreigners' comprehension is to be a factor, to what do you object? Is it the word "proximate"? Should all editing be in Basic English? There already is a Simple English Wikipedia.
Perhaps I drew a false conclusion from the articles I have seen that the Title of an Article should be, in bold, at the at the very beginning of the text as its subject.
Title: "Hebbel Hebbel". Article: "Hebbel Hebbel was [whatever he was]....."
By the way "West Hampstead, a suburb of Camden.." in no way matches the article West Hampstead.--SilasW (talk) 14:08, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Sorry if I wasn't clear - it wasn't the language, it was just that your edit didn't place WH in geographical context (i.e. what country it's in). You can put the word proximate back if you like, that was just my personal choice of words. My only real concern was that it didn't say where WH was from a global perspective. Feel free to change the wording if you prefer.Cnbrb (talk) 15:43, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
East London line
Hello,
Are you sure about that? I always dewikilink world cities, in the spirit of wp:overlink; if people don't know what country London is in (or Paris, New York, etc.) I hardly think they are going to be reading an article as specialised as this.
Even if you disagree about that, we surely ought not to wikilink UK. WP:overlink specifically says don't wikilink United States and I think that is meant to apply to all major countries by analogy.
Just trying to avoid needless clutter. Alarics (talk) 10:24, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi, yes I do agree about clutter! However, I do think that these three short words achieve a key benefit without causing any disruption to the article. I tend to always put articles, very briefly, in a geographical context, with some very short in the intro (especially if it lacks an infobox). I think this is better than requiring the reader to click through to another article to get the context. In this case, if a user in some random part of the world were to read this, would they know it was London in the UK, London in Canada, East London, South Africa, or any of the other Londons? Maybe by reading on, or clicking the links, but I rather like the idea of making it clear simply at the start. It looks weird to a British reader, but quite useful to someone in Bangkok or Lagos.
I know it's just a small picky point but I often find myself reading articles which take a couple of minutes to deduce that they are actually talking about something the USA. There's even a cleanup message template that sometimes gets stuck on articles.
But that was all - I didn't disagree with the rest of your edit, just like to keep things in a global context. I'll read up on your point about over-linking. Happy editing, Cnbrb (talk) 10:59, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
I completely agree with you about the plethora of articles that don't think to mention that the subject referred to is entirely within the United States, and whenever I find such an article I add it in. In fact this "American cultural imperialism" tendency is a bit of a hobbyhorse of mine. (However, when I do so I do not wikilink United States.)
Also I am aware of London in Ontario and East London in South Africa, but those are far smaller cities, and in particular they are not "world cities"; nobody would, I hope, dream of writing just "London" if they meant the one in Canada, and conversely I think the general convention is that "London" without qualification always means the UK capital. In the same way, "Paris" unqualified means the capital of France and not Paris, Texas.
Wikilinking is a slightly separate issue. There is room for debate about how major a city or country has to be to not need wikilinking, but the Wikipedia editing tool for, among other things, "delinking common terms" certainly includes London in the words that it automatically delinks. Alarics (talk) 07:34, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Well maybe so. I just take the view that a consistent (but simple) approach makes for a more consistently understandable Wikipedia overall, rather than making choices about what is or is not a world city. I understand your point about convention, but there are bound to be all sorts of controversial grey areas; a consistent approach gets around that. I don't really think an article suffers in any way by mentioning briefly the name of the country in the lead section, but gains in clarity without assuming the significance (or not) of the city mentioned. But that's my thinking and there may be other guidelines which contradict it. Thanks, nevertheless for the pointers on the other stuff about linking. 18:32, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
