User talk:ChocoCereal

ChocoCereal

Hello!(ChocoCereal (talk) 01:46, 29 October 2008 (UTC))

Hello back

Welcome!

Hello, ChocoCereal, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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What does hello back mean? Thanks for welcoming me. Hopefully I'll be around awhile...(ChocoCereal (talk) 00:23, 30 October 2008 (UTC))

Oh, I just read the top of my page. I get it now. It sometimes takes a few days... (ChocoCereal (talk) 22:47, 30 October 2008 (UTC))

Tzatziki

Sorry. The only edits I have ever made to tzatziki have been vandalism reverts. There is a small number of editors, usually anonymous, who feel compelled to "ethnically cleanse" certain food items: tzatziki has been hit frequently in recent days, thought usually hummus and lahmacun attract more attention. If you are interested in this sort of thing, check out Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars.

As for your question about cacık and chutney: there is considerable variation in this yogurt and cucumber dish in Turkey. I have eaten several versions where the cucumbers are diced and covered with a light coating of yogurt. I suppose that might be what the article means. You could say that cacık is generally chuncky, and tzatziki is generally more smooth. This, of course, is what is called original research on Wikipedia. You seem very interested in this subject and food in general. Perhaps you can contribute to the project by finding some reliable sources for cacık and tzatziki. Consider joining Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink. Once again, welcome. Aramgar (talk) 18:26, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Is it just me?

I'm just an average man with an average life. All I want is to be left alone... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu1RP34FLXU (ChocoCereal (talk) 22:55, 30 October 2008 (UTC))

blocked

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for block evasion. If you believe this block is unjustified you may contest this block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below. Gwen Gale (talk) 23:23, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry edit conflict. Please explain. (ChocoCereal (talk) 23:25, 30 October 2008 (UTC))

User:Wallamoose, User:JoeTimko. Gwen Gale (talk) 23:27, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, obviously I've read the ANI board. But I don't understand why I'm being blocked or why you're assuming I'm a sockpuppet. Is there a problem with some of my edits?(ChocoCereal (talk) 23:28, 30 October 2008 (UTC))

Block evasion isn't allowed. Gwen Gale (talk) 23:30, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

So what happens now? Has it occured to you that I left footprints intentionally? Now, because I chose not to remain anonymous after demonstrating I'm quite capable of editing anonymously and in good faith you're punishing me?

Regarding the original block you stated:

• "I believe it likely your notion of building an encyclopedia has a lot to do with disrupting it."

Yet by your own admission I've been doing good editing with this account:

• "If the account is helping the encyclopedia, I truly don't care."

And yet if I come out of hiding, having demonstrated my willingness to edit and work in good faith, you put an indefinite block back on me?

Do you realize you are the only Admin who has ever blocked me. This has become a personal vendetta.

I think it's time we shake hands and move forward. I'm clearly capable of editing wherever and whenever I choose on Wikipedia, your blocks notwithstanding. Yet I've refrained from vandalising or making personal attacks against you. All I'm asking is that you take a moment to consider whether my original block for the Moses comment on a talk page, and a single reversion of it after suggesting I didn't agree with you was the right decision.

Is it reasonable to block me indefinitely for refusing to agree with your claim that I'm a malicious editor and intentionally causing harm to Wikipedia, and your argument that I deserve an indefinite block? You've noted my joke "could" have been misinterpreted. I believe it could have done some good, which is why I posted it.

I'm not interested in going back and forth with you. This is obviously between the two of us. I'd like to put it in the past. But I don't accept that I have to agree with you in order to do so. I believe I've explained why I posted my comment and been fairly reasonable in offering to leave that article alone.

Let's end this. I don't want to spend a lot of time arguing back and forth. So this will be my last comment unless you have a question for me. But I honestly hope you can take a deep breath and look at the situation in its entirety.

• You didn't like my comment on the hummus page
• You didn't like that I reverted it after you deleted it and disagreed with you that it was disruptive.
• You gave me a week block.
• I vehemently disagreed with you and you gave me an indefinite block
• I continued to disagree with you and you blocked me from editing my own page.

There was never any real involvement from outside editors and other Admins. Obviously they will agree with you, that's how things work here, but several have tried to suggest it might be better to keep an eye on me and let me edit in good faith. But even when I let you know I could follow your edits as RafaelRGarcia was following mine and harassing me, I did not act maliciously. I understand you didn't like it, I didn't like it when it happened to me.

But there's never been an ANI consensus that I'm a malicious editor or a vandal. My contribution history disputes that claim. I'm sure you could win whatever procedural process we initiated now, Admins do stick together Gale! But I'm trying to be positive here and to move forward.

Truth be told I've had a good laugh reading your comments on the "How to win a Wikipedia edit war" article. Unfortunately that article reflects how things work here. Do you really not recognize that this is a widespread problem on Wikipedia? Don't you recognize that just labeling editor after editor after editor "a bad seed" isn't the way to go?

What is the worst thing I've done really? Please, I'm asking you civilly, let's end this. You're welcome to keep an eye on me and make sure I stay in line. But it's not my desire to play hide and seek and to game around. I have a sense of humor, and I chose to leave a trail of breacrumbs that it was me. I didn't do this to rub it in your face, but because I'm a nice kid who's having fun editing articles and adding content, and I don't want to have to evade a block and pretend I'm someone I'm not. Aren't I the kind of person you want on here? Have you ever considered that given my experiences and my willingness to stick it out that I may have special insights I can offer to improve not just articles, but maybe even how new editors and people who stumble on articles with misinformation are treated? Surely you can't tell me that you haven't observed a pattern of people coming here in good faith to fix something and leaving pissed.

That's not right is it? Isn't that much worse than my silly hummus comment? Honestly?

Please make me a reasonable offer. I'm not going to sit on the sidelines for months to prove I'm "committed". I think that's the biggest bunch of b.s. I've ever heard. So is there another way we can end this and move forward.

Honestly, this is my last effort to do this in a way I think is reasonable. If it takes a fire with fire approach I'm going to go that route. I don't want to, and I'm not trying to make threats, but I'm letting you know that I'm really trying to meet you half way here. Well?(ChocoCereal (talk) 00:30, 31 October 2008 (UTC))

I've put this up for discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#User:Wallamoose. Gwen Gale (talk) 10:43, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Following this post, which I think was likely made by another one of your sockpuppets, I suggest you stay away from en.Wikipedia for at least 3 months. If in the meantime you open more sockpuppet accounts you could very likely be community banned for a year. Gwen Gale (talk) 16:34, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Hermosa Beach pier

Anyone want to check it out and make sure it's all good? I took the content from the Hermosa Beach article.(ChocoCereal (talk) 23:24, 30 October 2008 (UTC))

Manhattan Beach pier

This one too. I stuck pretty close to the sources, but I cited them. Thanks.(ChocoCereal (talk) 23:24, 30 October 2008 (UTC))

Wikipedia:Wikipedia Loves Art

First off, I apologize for the spam. You are receiving this message because you have indicated that you are in Southern California or interested in Southern California topics (either via category or WikiProject).

I would like to invite you to the Los Angeles edition of Wikipedia:Wikipedia Loves Art, a photography scavenger hunt to be held at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art (LACMA) on Saturday, February 28, 2009, from 1:00 to 7:00 PM. All photos are intended for use in Wikipedia articles or on Wikimedia Commons. There will be a prize available for the person who gets the most photos on the list.

If you don't like art, why not come just to meet your fellow Wikipedians. Apparently, we haven't had a meetup in this area since June 2006!

If you are interested in attending, please add your name to Wikipedia:Wikipedia Loves Art#Los Angeles County Museum of Art. Please make a note if you are traveling to the area (train or plane) and need transportation, which can probably be arranged via carpool, but we need time to coordinate. Lodging is as of right now out of scope, but we could discuss that if enough people are interested.

Thank you and I hope to see you there! howcheng {chat} 23:40, 9 January 2009 (UTC)